Time Nick Message 20:09 cori Hi, I need help with installing Koha 20:12 cori we ran the perl install script, and set everything up, but we don't know where to put koha files 20:12 cori was that supposed to be automatically handled by the install.pl script? 20:12 mason hiya cori, u on a windows or linux box? 20:12 cori ubuntu 20:13 cori edgy eft 20:13 mason cool, try /usr/local/koha 20:14 mason install.pl should have installed koha to that dir 20:14 cori should the entire contents of the koha-2.2.7 folder go in that folder? 20:15 mason you downloaded the koha-2.2.7.tar file ? 20:15 cori yes 20:15 cori we ran the install.pl script, and it is reporting back as installed 20:16 mason cool 20:16 mason so , have u got a /usr/local/koha dir now? 20:17 cori yes, I'll try running it now 20:17 mason ah, answer to your 'should the entire contents of the koha-2.2.7 folder go in that folder?' question is no 20:18 cori yeah, I get this error from a web browser: The requested URL /cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl was not found on this server 20:19 mason right, you might need to do a little apache configing to set that up 20:20 mason hmm, i guess edgy is running apache2 20:20 cori yes, what is the apache configuration that we need to do 20:20 cori we put Include /etc/koha-httpd.conf into the apache2.conf 20:21 mason let me just check... 20:21 cori is koha not compatible with apache2? 20:21 mason yes, it is 20:24 cori it looks like my koha conf files all refer to /usr/local/koha but my apache server files use /var/www 20:24 cori do I need to change any settings in apache? 20:25 mason weve got a koha running with apache2 here 20:25 cori yes 20:26 mason looks like the /etc/koha-http.conf file is moved into /etc/apache2/sites-available 20:28 cori what should the default intranet url be for my koha server? ... what is the "index.html"? 20:28 mason and a symlink is made from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/koha-http.conf to ./etc/apache2/sites-available/koha-http.conf 20:29 kados cori: did you run the installer? 20:29 cori yes 20:30 mason ah, the installer asks you for the default koha and opac urls... 20:30 kados so just make sure there's a line in your apache.conf file 20:30 kados something like: 20:31 kados Include /usr/lib/koha/etc/koha-http.conf 20:31 kados and then edit that file as needed for your local config 20:31 mason look for a line like 20:31 mason # KOHA's INTRANET Configuration 20:31 mason <VirtualHost koha.koha.hostname.com:81> 20:35 mason thanks josh :) 20:35 cori I see it, 20:35 cori thanks 20:37 mason you might need to add your new <VirtualHost> name to your dns or hosts file too 20:37 mason if its not getting resolved properly... 20:41 cori it looks correct 20:42 mason great 20:43 cori except it's not working 20:45 cori is there a highly recommended lamp configuration for koha that's publicly available, that involves minimal post install adjustments? 20:46 cori a koha install that could work out of the box? 20:46 kados cori: some knowledge of apache, mysql and linux is a requirement for running a complex tool like Koha 20:47 kados cori: otherwise, there are hosted solutions managed by koha companies 20:47 kados cori: http://liblime.com/products/koha/koha-classic/koha-classic-hosted 20:47 kados for instance :-) 20:48 cori I had heard about Libime 20:48 cori I think someone called you Josh, if you're the same Josh at Liblime 20:48 kados yep, that's me 20:51 cori I'm interested, I'll be in touch. thank you all. 21:30 thd-home kados: are you still there? 21:30 kados thd-home: my flight was delayed 21:30 kados thd-home: it leaves at 8:00 now :/ 21:30 kados (they keep pushing it back) 21:31 thd-home kados: the Marriot La Guardia hotel is at the airport itself or across a street from the airport. 21:32 kados cool 21:33 thd-home kados: are you returning Wednesday? 21:34 kados yes, wednesday evening 21:35 kados and a meeting back in athens on thursday :( 21:35 kados busy week 21:36 thd-home kados: I will be in Westchester county on Wednesday so it would have to be tomorrow if we were going to meet. 21:36 thd-home or tonight :) 21:38 kados thd-home: I was just thinking that I might need to meet up with randy tonight to go over the strategy for tomorrow 21:38 kados thd-home: what time tomorrow are you avaialble? 21:39 thd-home I have no specific plans for tomorrow so I should be available most any time. 21:40 thd-home The airport is about an hour and a half from lower ( the southern part) Manhattan by city bus and subway 21:41 thd-home kados: other forms of transport are faster but cost real money. 21:41 kados right 21:42 kados ok, well I'll find out my schedule from randy and get back to you on a time 21:43 thd-home kados: I understand why you asked about LC possibly discontinuing MARC support now 21:43 kados did you see the recent minutes from the first meeting? 21:44 kados LCWGMinutes110306 21:44 kados here's an interesting blurb: 21:44 kados "A particularly salient issue is how, and to what extent, 21:44 kados libraries can fit with the world of search engines. She believes that libraries exist to connect 21:44 kados people with content; therefore the challenge for libraries is how to make the library experience 21:44 thd-home kados: I think it just means that some of the documentation was being maintained by someone who may have retired and not replaced. 21:44 kados easier for users and how to serve users more directly. A wide range of library literature makes it 21:44 kados clear that users consider library catalogs antiquated and not very user-friendly. She had found 21:44 kados that LC catalogers, when asked to face this reality, tended to have two responses: first, 21:44 kados agreement that users have difficulty using the catalog; and second, that the catalog is actually 21:44 kados better than most users realize, if only librarians would educate users. 21:46 kados of the roughly 132 million items in the Library of Congress collections, 21:46 kados probably no more than 15 million are represented by bibliographic records in the LC Online 21:46 kados Catalog. 21:46 kados Dr. Marcum recalled that at the recent Digital Library Federation meeting, Judith Nadler 21:46 kados had said that we should not try to fix existing systems; rather, we should try to pretend that we 21:46 kados had just arrived on Earth from Mars, so that we could consider how we would create systems of 21:46 kados bibliographic access if we were unencumbered by the past. 21:46 kados that sounds to me like they want to replace marc 21:47 thd-home kados: I think the real problem is that the OPAC, and I mean none of them is anywhere near what it could be as a tool which guides users to finding what they are seeking. 21:48 kados yea 21:49 thd-home kados: Judith Nadler wants a scorched earth policy to library systems design. 21:50 kados wow, their action items are daft 21:50 kados not a single one will result in anything 21:51 kados loc-- 21:51 thd-home kados: we could certainly do a better job starting from nothing but no one has the funding to do that job of building a new elegant system. 21:52 kados yea :( 21:52 kados maybe some day :-) 21:53 thd-home kados: there is the danger that the future of bibliographic control committee is just some pretence of consultation so it would not matter that the committee accomplished nothing. 21:55 thd-home kados: LC management could simply use it as something to point to when they go ahead with their own plan. 21:58 thd-home kados: LC was only doing about a third of the work for series authority control so, while the impact is bad where that matters it is not catastrophic for series authorities. 21:58 thd-home s/catastrophic/fatal/ # it is catastrophic for series authorities 22:00 kados thd-home: talk to you soon 22:00 thd-home pleasant flying 10:20 toins hi all