| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:32 |
|
toins |
tumer[A] ? |
| 12:32 |
|
dewey |
i guess tumer[A] is talking about the MARC editor not authorities editor |
| 12:41 |
|
hdl |
dewey forget tumer[A] |
| 12:41 |
|
dewey |
hdl: I forgot tumer[a] |
| 12:54 |
|
kados |
paul: are you here? |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 12:55 |
|
kados |
paul: I'm wondering if you've tested bulkmarcimport in rel_3_0 |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
hello kados |
| 12:55 |
|
kados |
for me it doesn't work |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
nope, I didn't test it |
| 12:55 |
|
kados |
also, AuthoritiesMarc.pm causes 500 errors |
| 12:55 |
|
paul |
(as I work on migrated 2.2 catalogues atm) |
| 12:55 |
|
kados |
I wonder if hdl has uploaded his most recent version of AuthoritiesMarc.pm |
| 12:55 |
|
kados |
paul: ahh, great, will we see 2.2.7 soon? ;-) |
| 12:56 |
|
tumer |
toins:looking for me? |
| 12:56 |
|
paul |
yep, just waiting for some commits from hdl, and i've 2 bugs to fix |
| 12:56 |
|
paul |
(1177 & 1230) |
| 12:56 |
|
dewey |
1160 |
| 12:56 |
|
toins |
tumer, yes, i just want to know some things on Date.pm |
| 12:56 |
|
tumer |
yep |
| 12:57 |
|
kados |
paul: scratch what I said about AuthoritiesMarc.pm, that's in dev_week, not rel_3_0 |
| 12:57 |
|
toins |
why have you used DateTime instead of Date::Calc ? |
| 12:58 |
|
hdl |
kados : In rel2_2, AuthoritiesMarc should not create Error 500 |
| 12:58 |
|
kados |
hdl: yes, sorry, I was wrong |
| 12:58 |
|
paul |
kados/tumer : do you know any link for a CCL tutorial ? |
| 12:58 |
|
tumer |
datetime is proposed on perl sites as one of the fastest, also has all the necessary functions we need |
| 12:58 |
|
tumer |
paul:no; |
| 12:59 |
|
hdl |
no pb kados |
| 12:59 |
|
paul |
so, how did you learn CCL capabilities ? |
| 13:00 |
|
kados |
paul: check the ccl.properties file I wrote |
| 13:00 |
|
kados |
it has extensive docs |
| 13:00 |
|
toins |
tumer, shouldn't we use just ONE module for date calculation ? |
| 13:01 |
|
toins |
because now we have Date::Calc on circ |
| 13:01 |
|
toins |
DateTime on Date.pm |
| 13:01 |
|
toins |
and some Date::Manip everywhere |
| 13:01 |
|
tumer |
date.pm is the only module in head |
| 13:01 |
|
tumer |
i have cleaned all date::manip and date::calc from all script everywhere |
| 13:03 |
|
tumer |
Date.pm now has all necessary date calculations including a get_today function that all my script now use; |
| 13:03 |
|
toins |
ok |
| 13:13 |
|
kados |
hdl: is rel_3_0 authorities working with zebra? |
| 13:13 |
|
kados |
hdl: for unimarc I mean? |
| 13:13 |
|
hdl |
yes. |
| 13:14 |
|
kados |
hdl: and I only need to add authorities zebra files to make it work for usmarc? |
| 13:14 |
|
_paul |
(disconnected from the web for some seconds... copying my question again, if you answered, I missed the answer) |
| 13:14 |
|
_paul |
kados : i'm owner of #1230, but I don't know what to do with it. do you have an idea ? |
| 13:14 |
|
kados |
I can't get to bugs.koha.org |
| 13:14 |
|
kados |
internal server error :( |
| 13:14 |
|
_paul |
! |
| 13:15 |
|
_paul |
worked 10seconds ago |
| 13:15 |
|
_paul |
http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1230 |
| 13:15 |
|
kados |
I think I have the wrong dns cached |
| 13:15 |
|
_paul |
yes, because it works perfecly for me |
| 13:17 |
|
kados |
paul: ahh, ok I see it now |
| 13:17 |
|
kados |
paul: I can confirm it happens |
| 13:17 |
|
kados |
paul: but I don't know why |
| 13:18 |
|
kados |
paul: it seems it only happens with koha tables |
| 13:18 |
|
_paul |
and only biblioitems it seems |
| 13:18 |
|
_paul |
(as biblio seems to be OK) |
| 13:18 |
|
kados |
paul: I suspect there is a perl problem somewhere, double-encoding due to concatenation or something |
| 13:18 |
|
kados |
(yep) |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
I fear even rel_3_0 will suffer from some utf8 probs |
| 13:20 |
|
kados |
esp with collations of double-byte characters |
| 13:21 |
|
paul |
kados : that's what I fear too... |
| 13:43 |
|
rch |
hdl: can you offer some guidance on zebra authorities? |
| 13:43 |
|
hdl |
rch : is it possible to do so in 1 hour ? |
| 13:44 |
|
rch |
hdl: maybe some small guidance? :) |
| 13:44 |
|
rch |
ah ok I will track you down later |
| 13:45 |
|
paul |
(rch : remember it's 6PM in France, so you may have to wait until tomorrow (your) morning) |
| 13:46 |
|
rch |
of course :) |
| 13:47 |
|
rch |
anyone else out there with some zebra authorities experience :)? |
| 13:47 |
|
paul |
throw your question, I may be able to answer it |
| 13:49 |
|
rch |
i'm just working on setting up basic authorities; not sure if i'm aware of all the steps. |
| 13:49 |
|
rch |
1- add to auth tables |
| 13:49 |
|
rch |
2 index marc with zebra |
| 13:50 |
|
rch |
... is there a 1.5? (or a 3)... ? |
| 13:51 |
|
paul |
mmm... I think no, but you will have to ask hdl to be definetly sure. Or we can beep alaurin / btoumi |
| 13:55 |
|
rch |
is there an update script to (re)index zebradb from auth_header.marc? |
| 13:56 |
|
paul |
rel_3_0/zebraplugin/utils/ has 2 scripts |
| 13:57 |
|
paul |
not sure thay will work out of the box for MARC21 |
| 13:57 |
|
rch |
great thx, i'll check them out |
| 13:57 |
|
alaurin |
this scripts are taking the source from xml |
| 13:58 |
|
alaurin |
in auth_header --- marcxml |
| 13:59 |
|
rch |
ah, so auth_header.marc should be in xml? |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
mmm... I would say probably yes, as we prefer it (when there is some error in the data, it's 100000 times easier to fix !) |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
but it's probably better to wait for hdl |
| 14:00 |
|
paul |
to be sure |
| 14:00 |
|
alaurin |
no, auth_header.marc, is staying, and u have a new auth_header.marcxml |
| 14:01 |
|
alaurin |
like paul said, u'de better to wait hdl |
| 14:01 |
|
paul |
how did you fill the auth_header.marcxml field ? |
| 14:02 |
|
rch |
ok good. i thought in biblios, biblioitems.marc was authoritative for the record. is biblioitems.marcxml authoritative? |
| 14:02 |
|
rch |
(obviously they _should_ always be the same) |
| 14:03 |
|
alaurin |
u create auth_header.marcxlm by the script move marc_to auth_header ..... |
| 14:06 |
|
rch |
alaurin: thx for the tips; i'll play around with these scripts. |
| 14:06 |
|
alaurin |
ok |
| 14:12 |
|
paul |
rch : MARCgetbiblio uses marcxml, so it's this one that is authoritative ! |
| 14:18 |
|
kados |
in dev_week biblioitems.marc is authoritative |
| 14:18 |
|
kados |
paul: what is authoritative for items data in rel_3_0 currently, is it items table or MARC data? |
| 14:18 |
|
alaurin |
i think marcxml too ... |
| 14:19 |
|
paul |
kados : why do we need both marc & xml ? we don't need both. |
| 14:19 |
|
paul |
we just need to decide which one is authoritative & remove the other one. |
| 14:19 |
|
paul |
we already spoke of this iirc : |
| 14:19 |
|
paul |
- iso2709 is smaller but unreadable |
| 14:19 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 14:19 |
|
kados |
marcxml is much slower also |
| 14:19 |
|
paul |
- xml is more user friendly, but take more place |
| 14:20 |
|
paul |
right. |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
not only 10X larger, but 100X slower |
| 14:20 |
|
paul |
(phone ring) |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
brb |
| 14:45 |
|
hdl |
rch : back |
| 14:47 |
|
rch |
hi hdl |
| 14:48 |
|
hdl |
I read the logs |
| 14:48 |
|
rch |
anything to add? |
| 14:48 |
|
hdl |
yes : |
| 14:51 |
|
hdl |
I added export_Authorities.pl that should provide you with an iso2709 file for zebra indexing. |
| 14:52 |
|
hdl |
be aware it is supposed that 152$a contains authtypecode. |
| 14:53 |
|
hdl |
be aware it is supposed that 152$*b* contains authtypecode. |
| 14:53 |
|
hdl |
001 field contain authid |
| 14:54 |
|
hdl |
and 100 field is much like leader in UNIMARC |
| 14:55 |
|
hdl |
(in misc/plugin directory |
| 14:55 |
|
hdl |
) |
| 14:55 |
|
rch |
re: 152$a _and_ $b ? or just $b? |
| 14:56 |
|
hdl |
you may have to tweak move_marc_2_authheader.pl |
| 14:56 |
|
hdl |
I made a mistake it is 152$b and not $a |
| 14:56 |
|
rch |
ok, right |
| 14:56 |
|
hdl |
(Hoping it is the same for you... should be but not 100% sure) |
| 14:57 |
|
rch |
yes, same |
| 14:58 |
|
rch |
so then in zebra-authorities.cfg, |
| 14:58 |
|
rch |
I add |
| 14:58 |
|
hdl |
remember to launch movemarc2authheader with a rel2_2 box.... |
| 14:59 |
|
rch |
recordId: (auth1, Local-Number) |
| 14:59 |
|
rch |
right? |
| 15:00 |
|
hdl |
you shouldnot have to add it. |
| 15:00 |
|
hdl |
It should already be there. |
| 15:01 |
|
hdl |
Ehrr yes. |
| 15:02 |
|
rch |
I didn't see your zebra.cfg in cvs. |
| 15:03 |
|
hdl |
I thought there was one. |
| 15:04 |
|
hdl |
Do you have auth1.att ? |
| 15:04 |
|
rch |
yes. |
| 15:05 |
|
rch |
what I really need is record.abs for usmarc |
| 15:06 |
|
hdl |
which record.abs in cvs for authorities will you be using as base ? |
| 15:07 |
|
rch |
I will go from record_unimarc |
| 15:08 |
|
rch |
does this make sense? |
| 15:09 |
|
hdl |
in which directory ? |
| 15:09 |
|
rch |
zebraplugin/zebradb/authorities/tab |
| 15:09 |
|
rch |
right? |
| 15:10 |
|
hdl |
I think I have to commit the latest version. |
| 15:11 |
|
hdl |
commited |
| 15:11 |
|
rch |
thx |
| 15:11 |
|
hdl |
Sorry. |
| 15:12 |
|
hdl |
Managing all the versions and changes in dir structure in rel_3_0 made me crazy. |
| 15:13 |
|
rch |
yeah. this is how I missed your zebra-authorities.cfg ... |
| 15:14 |
|
hdl |
You will also HAVE to change a little your biblios record.abs to add Koha-auth-number |
| 15:14 |
|
hdl |
melm 606$9Koha-Auth-Number,Koha-Auth-Number:n,Koha-Auth-Number:w |
| 15:16 |
|
hdl |
If you donot add some Koha-Auth-Number for authorities related fields, search for authorities won't give you the appearance count in biblios. |
| 15:16 |
|
hdl |
And zebra will return errors. |
| 15:17 |
|
rch |
right |
| 15:17 |
|
hdl |
So You will think authorities are buggy. |
| 15:17 |
|
hdl |
And it would be a shame for us. |
| 15:17 |
|
hdl |
:D |
| 15:18 |
|
hdl |
Koha was not designed as such... But maybe we should make display of count of biblios a sytempref for users. |
| 15:19 |
|
hdl |
(In order to avoid such problems. |
| 15:19 |
|
hdl |
) |
| 15:19 |
|
hdl |
Will you give it a try ? |
| 15:20 |
|
hdl |
I shall comme a while in the evening. But My wife called me for dinner. |
| 15:20 |
|
rch |
yes, it may take some time; i have to get record.abs for usmarc |
| 15:21 |
|
rch |
hdl: thanks for your help! |
| 16:39 |
|
thd |
kados: here? |
| 16:39 |
|
dewey |
here is another thing about ID |
| 16:45 |
|
owen |
dewey: you're not very smart. |
| 16:45 |
|
dewey |
owen: what? |
| 16:49 |
|
thd |
dewey: forget here |
| 16:49 |
|
dewey |
thd: I forgot here |
| 16:50 |
|
kados |
hi thd |
| 16:51 |
|
kados |
ahh, holidays :-) |
| 16:52 |
|
thd |
kados: did you see my message last message for the wiki templates? |
| 16:52 |
|
kados |
yes, but I didn't read it :-) |
| 16:54 |
|
kados |
thd: ok, I'll apply the changes immediately |
| 16:58 |
|
kados |
thd: ok, updated |
| 16:58 |
|
kados |
thd: did that fix the problem? |
| 17:00 |
|
thd |
kados: yes it is now almost as good as MediaWiki |
| 17:03 |
|
hdl |
rch |
| 17:03 |
|
hdl |
back. |
| 17:03 |
|
thd |
kados: I have noticed that the WikiPedia has a link for jumping to the navigation sidebar at the top for Netscape 4 and other browsers which do not support the CSS2 used there |
| 17:04 |
|
hdl |
rch : Maybe you can highly get inspiration from record.abs unimarc. |
| 17:05 |
|
hdl |
rch : Sole problem is that some coded subfields and some usual $0-$9 information are not indexed yet. |
| 17:05 |
|
thd |
kados: the navigation sidebar appears at the bottom in older browsers. It is actually at the bottom after the page content in the HTML. |
| 17:07 |
|
hdl |
rch : this was not my first interest. Having something that simply works and returns good results was. |
| 17:18 |
|
thd |
kados: are you still connected? |
| 18:01 |
|
kados |
thd: sorry, I had a phone call |
| 23:10 |
|
mason1 |
. |
