Time Nick Message 12:32 toins tumer[A] ? 12:32 dewey i guess tumer[A] is talking about the MARC editor not authorities editor 12:41 hdl dewey forget tumer[A] 12:41 dewey hdl: I forgot tumer[a] 12:54 kados paul: are you here? 12:55 paul yep 12:55 kados paul: I'm wondering if you've tested bulkmarcimport in rel_3_0 12:55 paul hello kados 12:55 kados for me it doesn't work 12:55 paul nope, I didn't test it 12:55 kados also, AuthoritiesMarc.pm causes 500 errors 12:55 paul (as I work on migrated 2.2 catalogues atm) 12:55 kados I wonder if hdl has uploaded his most recent version of AuthoritiesMarc.pm 12:55 kados paul: ahh, great, will we see 2.2.7 soon? ;-) 12:56 tumer toins:looking for me? 12:56 paul yep, just waiting for some commits from hdl, and i've 2 bugs to fix 12:56 paul (1177 & 1230) 12:56 dewey 1160 12:56 toins tumer, yes, i just want to know some things on Date.pm 12:56 tumer yep 12:57 kados paul: scratch what I said about AuthoritiesMarc.pm, that's in dev_week, not rel_3_0 12:57 toins why have you used DateTime instead of Date::Calc ? 12:58 hdl kados : In rel2_2, AuthoritiesMarc should not create Error 500 12:58 kados hdl: yes, sorry, I was wrong 12:58 paul kados/tumer : do you know any link for a CCL tutorial ? 12:58 tumer datetime is proposed on perl sites as one of the fastest, also has all the necessary functions we need 12:58 tumer paul:no; 12:59 hdl no pb kados 12:59 paul so, how did you learn CCL capabilities ? 13:00 kados paul: check the ccl.properties file I wrote 13:00 kados it has extensive docs 13:00 toins tumer, shouldn't we use just ONE module for date calculation ? 13:01 toins because now we have Date::Calc on circ 13:01 toins DateTime on Date.pm 13:01 toins and some Date::Manip everywhere 13:01 tumer date.pm is the only module in head 13:01 tumer i have cleaned all date::manip and date::calc from all script everywhere 13:03 tumer Date.pm now has all necessary date calculations including a get_today function that all my script now use; 13:03 toins ok 13:13 kados hdl: is rel_3_0 authorities working with zebra? 13:13 kados hdl: for unimarc I mean? 13:13 hdl yes. 13:14 kados hdl: and I only need to add authorities zebra files to make it work for usmarc? 13:14 _paul (disconnected from the web for some seconds... copying my question again, if you answered, I missed the answer) 13:14 _paul kados : i'm owner of #1230, but I don't know what to do with it. do you have an idea ? 13:14 kados I can't get to bugs.koha.org 13:14 kados internal server error :( 13:14 _paul ! 13:15 _paul worked 10seconds ago 13:15 _paul http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1230 13:15 kados I think I have the wrong dns cached 13:15 _paul yes, because it works perfecly for me 13:17 kados paul: ahh, ok I see it now 13:17 kados paul: I can confirm it happens 13:17 kados paul: but I don't know why 13:18 kados paul: it seems it only happens with koha tables 13:18 _paul and only biblioitems it seems 13:18 _paul (as biblio seems to be OK) 13:18 kados paul: I suspect there is a perl problem somewhere, double-encoding due to concatenation or something 13:18 kados (yep) 13:19 kados I fear even rel_3_0 will suffer from some utf8 probs 13:20 kados esp with collations of double-byte characters 13:21 paul kados : that's what I fear too... 13:43 rch hdl: can you offer some guidance on zebra authorities? 13:43 hdl rch : is it possible to do so in 1 hour ? 13:44 rch hdl: maybe some small guidance? :) 13:44 rch ah ok I will track you down later 13:45 paul (rch : remember it's 6PM in France, so you may have to wait until tomorrow (your) morning) 13:46 rch of course :) 13:47 rch anyone else out there with some zebra authorities experience :)? 13:47 paul throw your question, I may be able to answer it 13:49 rch i'm just working on setting up basic authorities; not sure if i'm aware of all the steps. 13:49 rch 1- add to auth tables 13:49 rch 2 index marc with zebra 13:50 rch ... is there a 1.5? (or a 3)... ? 13:51 paul mmm... I think no, but you will have to ask hdl to be definetly sure. Or we can beep alaurin / btoumi 13:55 rch is there an update script to (re)index zebradb from auth_header.marc? 13:56 paul rel_3_0/zebraplugin/utils/ has 2 scripts 13:57 paul not sure thay will work out of the box for MARC21 13:57 rch great thx, i'll check them out 13:57 alaurin this scripts are taking the source from xml 13:58 alaurin in auth_header --- marcxml 13:59 rch ah, so auth_header.marc should be in xml? 14:00 paul mmm... I would say probably yes, as we prefer it (when there is some error in the data, it's 100000 times easier to fix !) 14:00 paul but it's probably better to wait for hdl 14:00 paul to be sure 14:00 alaurin no, auth_header.marc, is staying, and u have a new auth_header.marcxml 14:01 alaurin like paul said, u'de better to wait hdl 14:01 paul how did you fill the auth_header.marcxml field ? 14:02 rch ok good. i thought in biblios, biblioitems.marc was authoritative for the record. is biblioitems.marcxml authoritative? 14:02 rch (obviously they _should_ always be the same) 14:03 alaurin u create auth_header.marcxlm by the script move marc_to auth_header ..... 14:06 rch alaurin: thx for the tips; i'll play around with these scripts. 14:06 alaurin ok 14:12 paul rch : MARCgetbiblio uses marcxml, so it's this one that is authoritative ! 14:18 kados in dev_week biblioitems.marc is authoritative 14:18 kados paul: what is authoritative for items data in rel_3_0 currently, is it items table or MARC data? 14:18 alaurin i think marcxml too ... 14:19 paul kados : why do we need both marc & xml ? we don't need both. 14:19 paul we just need to decide which one is authoritative & remove the other one. 14:19 paul we already spoke of this iirc : 14:19 paul - iso2709 is smaller but unreadable 14:19 kados yep 14:19 kados marcxml is much slower also 14:19 paul - xml is more user friendly, but take more place 14:20 paul right. 14:20 kados not only 10X larger, but 100X slower 14:20 paul (phone ring) 14:20 kados brb 14:45 hdl rch : back 14:47 rch hi hdl 14:48 hdl I read the logs 14:48 rch anything to add? 14:48 hdl yes : 14:51 hdl I added export_Authorities.pl that should provide you with an iso2709 file for zebra indexing. 14:52 hdl be aware it is supposed that 152$a contains authtypecode. 14:53 hdl be aware it is supposed that 152$*b* contains authtypecode. 14:53 hdl 001 field contain authid 14:54 hdl and 100 field is much like leader in UNIMARC 14:55 hdl (in misc/plugin directory 14:55 hdl ) 14:55 rch re: 152$a _and_ $b ? or just $b? 14:56 hdl you may have to tweak move_marc_2_authheader.pl 14:56 hdl I made a mistake it is 152$b and not $a 14:56 rch ok, right 14:56 hdl (Hoping it is the same for you... should be but not 100% sure) 14:57 rch yes, same 14:58 rch so then in zebra-authorities.cfg, 14:58 rch I add 14:58 hdl remember to launch movemarc2authheader with a rel2_2 box.... 14:59 rch recordId: (auth1, Local-Number) 14:59 rch right? 15:00 hdl you shouldnot have to add it. 15:00 hdl It should already be there. 15:01 hdl Ehrr yes. 15:02 rch I didn't see your zebra.cfg in cvs. 15:03 hdl I thought there was one. 15:04 hdl Do you have auth1.att ? 15:04 rch yes. 15:05 rch what I really need is record.abs for usmarc 15:06 hdl which record.abs in cvs for authorities will you be using as base ? 15:07 rch I will go from record_unimarc 15:08 rch does this make sense? 15:09 hdl in which directory ? 15:09 rch zebraplugin/zebradb/authorities/tab 15:09 rch right? 15:10 hdl I think I have to commit the latest version. 15:11 hdl commited 15:11 rch thx 15:11 hdl Sorry. 15:12 hdl Managing all the versions and changes in dir structure in rel_3_0 made me crazy. 15:13 rch yeah. this is how I missed your zebra-authorities.cfg ... 15:14 hdl You will also HAVE to change a little your biblios record.abs to add Koha-auth-number 15:14 hdl melm 606$9 Koha-Auth-Number,Koha-Auth-Number:n,Koha-Auth-Number:w 15:16 hdl If you donot add some Koha-Auth-Number for authorities related fields, search for authorities won't give you the appearance count in biblios. 15:16 hdl And zebra will return errors. 15:17 rch right 15:17 hdl So You will think authorities are buggy. 15:17 hdl And it would be a shame for us. 15:17 hdl :D 15:18 hdl Koha was not designed as such... But maybe we should make display of count of biblios a sytempref for users. 15:19 hdl (In order to avoid such problems. 15:19 hdl ) 15:19 hdl Will you give it a try ? 15:20 hdl I shall comme a while in the evening. But My wife called me for dinner. 15:20 rch yes, it may take some time; i have to get record.abs for usmarc 15:21 rch hdl: thanks for your help! 16:39 thd kados: here? 16:39 dewey here is another thing about ID 16:45 owen dewey: you're not very smart. 16:45 dewey owen: what? 16:49 thd dewey: forget here 16:49 dewey thd: I forgot here 16:50 kados hi thd 16:51 kados ahh, holidays :-) 16:52 thd kados: did you see my message last message for the wiki templates? 16:52 kados yes, but I didn't read it :-) 16:54 kados thd: ok, I'll apply the changes immediately 16:58 kados thd: ok, updated 16:58 kados thd: did that fix the problem? 17:00 thd kados: yes it is now almost as good as MediaWiki 17:03 hdl rch 17:03 hdl back. 17:03 thd kados: I have noticed that the WikiPedia has a link for jumping to the navigation sidebar at the top for Netscape 4 and other browsers which do not support the CSS2 used there 17:04 hdl rch : Maybe you can highly get inspiration from record.abs unimarc. 17:05 hdl rch : Sole problem is that some coded subfields and some usual $0-$9 information are not indexed yet. 17:05 thd kados: the navigation sidebar appears at the bottom in older browsers. It is actually at the bottom after the page content in the HTML. 17:07 hdl rch : this was not my first interest. Having something that simply works and returns good results was. 17:18 thd kados: are you still connected? 18:01 kados thd: sorry, I had a phone call 23:10 mason1 .