| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 17:29 |
|
kados |
chris: you around yet? |
| 17:30 |
|
chris |
yep, staff meeting ... i see you have been committing lots :) |
| 17:30 |
|
kados |
yea ... lots more to come too |
| 17:30 |
|
kados |
and looks like another tonight :/ |
| 18:05 |
|
thd |
kados: are you alive? |
| 18:06 |
|
kados |
thd: barely :-) |
| 18:06 |
|
kados |
fortunately, I've discovered a secret |
| 18:06 |
|
kados |
perhaps well-guarded ... |
| 18:07 |
|
thd |
kados: to staying alive without sleep? |
| 18:07 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 18:07 |
|
kados |
I think it's actually easier to program in large sprints |
| 18:07 |
|
chris |
definitely is |
| 18:08 |
|
kados |
I've been going a it for about 26 hours now :-) |
| 18:08 |
|
chris |
its like writing an essay, or painting |
| 18:08 |
|
kados |
and I feel sharp as a tack :-) |
| 18:08 |
|
thd |
kados: you mean if you do not eat so you can avoid sleepiness? |
| 18:08 |
|
kados |
thd: haven't eaten much, mainly just espresso :-) |
| 18:09 |
|
kados |
I finally grok Biblio.pm |
| 18:09 |
|
kados |
what an insane bunch of code :-) |
| 18:09 |
|
thd |
kados: the feeling of being sharp as a tack is a caffeine induced hallucination |
| 18:10 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 18:10 |
|
kados |
probably is |
| 18:11 |
|
thd |
kados: you can tell when that sensation increases despite an inability to walk a straight line |
| 18:11 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 18:11 |
|
kados |
fortunately, all I need to be able to do is type :-) |
| 18:12 |
|
thd |
kados: I have discovered something a little scary after having a little sleep |
| 18:13 |
|
thd |
kados: it seems that some influential library administers have seriously taken the view that subject authority control is an outmoded concept |
| 18:15 |
|
thd |
kados: they proposed abandoning all hope of finding information in a rational manner an surrendering to Google even when no full text is available |
| 18:19 |
|
thd |
kados: this was argued seriously enough to prevent the UC library system from advocating anything about subject metadata in a taskforce studying how to manage without enough funding for enough librarians to do all the work needed to keep the system running for current and future needs. |
| 18:21 |
|
thd |
kados: this was not merely a dispute between FAST and LCSH but between any authority controlled thesaurus and none |
| 18:24 |
|
thd |
kados: it is true that no subject thesaurus would free cataloguer time but no acquisitions would also free cataloguer time and accomplish much the same purpose for serious research |
| 18:26 |
|
thd |
kados: when caffeine and not eating stops working you can try pounding tacks into your body to maintain alertness |
| 18:26 |
|
kados |
thd: hehe |
| 18:28 |
|
thd |
kados: are you ready to abandon all control and thus prevent any normalisation in catalogues of the future? |
| 18:29 |
|
kados |
thd: to some extent I've already done that with the Internet :-) |
| 18:33 |
|
thd |
kados: I want to take back the internet so I do not get 5 x 10^20 result set filled with mostly irrelevant results which I have to cleverly avoid through some arcane set of full text queries |
| 18:35 |
|
thd |
kados: building a robot to stay awake for you and catalogue the internet would be much healthier than caffeine, no food, and tacks |
| 18:36 |
|
thd |
kados: that would be something really worth staying awake for |
| 18:36 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 18:48 |
|
kados |
chris: quick question...how important are these warnings: |
| 18:48 |
|
kados |
Argument "" isn't numeric in numeric gt (>) at |
| 18:48 |
|
kados |
substr outside of string |
| 18:48 |
|
kados |
both are in Biblio.pm |
| 18:48 |
|
chris |
the first one is |
| 18:49 |
|
chris |
annoying more than anything |
| 18:49 |
|
chris |
but id fix it |
| 18:49 |
|
kados |
unfortunately it's in that really annoyin block :-) |
| 18:49 |
|
chris |
say the line is |
| 18:49 |
|
kados |
MARChtml2xml |
| 18:50 |
|
chris |
if ($something < 12){ |
| 18:50 |
|
kados |
1386 in latest dev_week |
| 18:50 |
|
chris |
2 secs then |
| 18:50 |
|
kados |
if ((@$tags[$i] > 10) && (@$values[$i] ne "")){ |
| 18:50 |
|
chris |
right |
| 18:51 |
|
chris |
if ((@$tags[$i] && @$tags[$i] > 10) && (@$values[$i] ne "")){ |
| 18:51 |
|
chris |
will stop the warning |
| 18:51 |
|
chris |
cos it will fail at |
| 18:51 |
|
kados |
hopefully it wont' also change the behavior :-) |
| 18:51 |
|
chris |
no it wont |
| 18:52 |
|
chris |
@$tags[$i] cant be greater than 10 |
| 18:52 |
|
chris |
unless it has a value |
| 18:52 |
|
kados |
k |
| 18:52 |
|
chris |
so the if fails because it has no value .. and doesnt bother doing the > |
| 18:53 |
|
chris |
will be fractionally faster too |
| 18:53 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 18:53 |
|
chris |
the other one sounds like its trying to do a substr outside the bounds of a string |
| 18:54 |
|
kados |
yea |
| 18:54 |
|
chris |
could also be caused by the string being empty |
| 18:54 |
|
kados |
it's just a bit down ... |
| 18:54 |
|
kados |
my $ind2 = substr(@$indicator[$j],1,1); |
| 18:54 |
|
chris |
right |
| 18:54 |
|
kados |
to be valid marc |
| 18:55 |
|
kados |
it should have a blank value (space character) |
| 18:55 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 18:55 |
|
kados |
if there's no real value |
| 18:55 |
|
chris |
so what you probably want to do then |
| 18:55 |
|
chris |
my $ind2; |
| 18:55 |
|
kados |
maybe start by filling it witha blank value? |
| 18:55 |
|
kados |
my $ind2 = " "; |
| 18:55 |
|
chris |
if (@$indicator[$j]){ |
| 18:56 |
|
chris |
$ind2 = substr(@$indicator[$j],1,1); |
| 18:56 |
|
chris |
} |
| 18:56 |
|
chris |
else { |
| 18:56 |
|
chris |
warn "Indicator is empty"; |
| 18:56 |
|
kados |
right |
| 18:56 |
|
chris |
$ind2=" "; |
| 18:56 |
|
chris |
} |
| 18:57 |
|
chris |
might help track down problems in your marc that way |
| 18:58 |
|
kados |
yup |
| 18:58 |
|
kados |
cool, well other than that, Biblio.pm's clean :-) |
| 19:06 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 01:13 |
|
thd |
kados: are you still there? |
| 01:16 |
|
thd |
kados: are you populating indicators which no cataloguer has set to make warnings go away? |
| 04:08 |
|
paul |
hello world. |
| 07:34 |
|
kados |
thd: is it incorrect to populate indicators with blank values? |
| 08:03 |
|
kados |
paul, hdl? |
| 08:03 |
|
hdl |
yes kados |
| 08:03 |
|
kados |
hdl: I hope my recent commits will help out |
| 08:04 |
|
kados |
was it useful? |
| 08:04 |
|
hdl |
Seems that zebra configuration files must be quite complete. |
| 08:05 |
|
hdl |
with coded fields defined in it. |
| 08:05 |
|
hdl |
I didn't have time nor data to try and play with it. |
| 08:05 |
|
kados |
for MARC21 yes |
| 08:05 |
|
hdl |
Mine are all UNIMARC. |
| 08:06 |
|
kados |
right |
| 08:06 |
|
hdl |
For unimarc, 100 coded field should be defined too. |
| 08:09 |
|
paul |
hello kados. |
| 08:09 |
|
kados |
hi paul |
| 08:09 |
|
toins |
hello all |
| 08:10 |
|
kados |
hi toins :-) |
| 08:10 |
|
paul |
(why the hell don't I have a <beep> when someone write my name on irc...) |
| 08:10 |
|
kados |
paul: beep |
| 08:10 |
|
kados |
maybe only when your name is first? |
| 08:10 |
|
kados |
on mine it only works when my nick is first on a line |
| 08:11 |
|
toins |
test paul .. |
| 08:11 |
|
paul |
ok, it works now ! |
| 08:11 |
|
paul |
many thanks joshua for you mail |
| 08:12 |
|
kados |
I hope it helps |
| 08:12 |
|
paul |
yep. Point 6 was very interesting imho : |
| 08:12 |
|
paul |
6. This evening I'll be taking a look at the rel_3_0 code for reserving |
| 08:12 |
|
paul |
specific items and if it's stable, merging it into dev_week. |
| 08:12 |
|
paul |
|
| 08:12 |
|
paul |
sounds everybody agrees that it's better to have only 1 branch ;-) |
| 08:12 |
|
kados |
yes, unfortunately, 'this evening' will be again 'this evening' :-) |
| 08:12 |
|
kados |
of course, I 100% agree :-) |
| 08:13 |
|
kados |
but as rel_3_0 is untested and has many new features I can't use it for clients |
| 08:13 |
|
paul |
do you have some minuts to explain #9 (itemtype stuff, that is hardcoded) |
| 08:13 |
|
kados |
I have a demo for NPL in 45 minutes |
| 08:13 |
|
kados |
and still a bit of programming to do :-) |
| 08:13 |
|
paul |
you should ask alaurin & btoumi , but their reserve & borrower stuff has been heavily tested by their librarians. |
| 08:14 |
|
kados |
so maybe tomorrow would be better |
| 08:14 |
|
paul |
ok, so you'll explain later, or i'll dig myself |
| 08:14 |
|
kados |
the only place to dig is GetItemtypes |
| 08:14 |
|
kados |
in Koha.pm |
| 08:14 |
|
paul |
ok, i'll do it. |
| 08:15 |
|
paul |
(i've nothing against hardcoded authorised_values, as I already created 4 ;-) bsort1, bsort2, asort1 and asort2. very usefull indeed...) |
| 08:15 |
|
alaurin |
kados, i'd send you a mail to explain the reserves by items |
| 08:15 |
|
kados |
alaurin: thx |
| 08:16 |
|
alaurin |
read it, if you need something, call me |
| 08:16 |
|
paul |
alaurin: hello. could you remind btoumi that he should write a mail to koha-devel to explain what he will do on aquisitions ? |
| 08:17 |
|
alaurin |
we've done nothing to acquisitions ?????? |
| 08:18 |
|
alaurin |
paul , are u sure is it for aquisitions ???? |
| 08:18 |
|
paul |
oups, no. |
| 08:18 |
|
paul |
it was for late issues & fines. |
| 08:20 |
|
alaurin |
we'll do it as soon is possible |
| 08:32 |
|
hdl |
owen here ? |
| 08:35 |
|
owen |
hdl: you called? |
| 08:35 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 08:35 |
|
hdl |
Yes. |
| 08:36 |
|
hdl |
I called because when testing MARCdetail and addbiblio, I saw that Buttons were in fact forms. |
| 08:36 |
|
hdl |
Contrary to what Pierrick and you decided, iirc. |
| 08:37 |
|
owen |
In rel_2_2? |
| 08:37 |
|
hdl |
rel_3_0 |
| 08:37 |
|
hdl |
So I wanted to know whether this was |
| 08:37 |
|
hdl |
deliberate. |
| 08:37 |
|
hdl |
to hide links. |
| 08:38 |
|
hdl |
Or if it was just a mistake. |
| 08:38 |
|
owen |
That's just an unfinished task. Any form button can be converted to a link, unless it's a destructive action, like a delete. |
| 08:38 |
|
hdl |
Because it makes it hard to maintain. |
| 08:38 |
|
hdl |
OK. |
| 08:38 |
|
hdl |
I correct all the links I see then.? |
| 08:38 |
|
hdl |
. |
| 08:38 |
|
owen |
Yes, please |
| 08:38 |
|
hdl |
thx. |
| 08:49 |
|
tumer |
kados:? |
| 08:50 |
|
paul |
hi tumer |
| 08:50 |
|
dewey |
hi tumer is, like, still strugling |
| 08:50 |
|
tumer |
hi paul |
| 08:51 |
|
tumer |
kados around? |
| 08:51 |
|
kados |
tumer: I have a meeting in 10 minutes |
| 08:51 |
|
tumer |
when are you going to be free? |
| 08:52 |
|
kados |
later today ... in 5-6 hours |
| 08:53 |
|
tumer |
see you tonight than |
| 08:54 |
|
tumer |
paul:good luck |
| 08:57 |
|
owen |
Paul :if you wait a few hours I can make sure NPL is up to date with your last few changes. I've got to go to a meeting now |
| 08:57 |
|
paul |
no problems. |
