| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 17:54 |
|
russ |
chris you still on the phone? |
| 17:54 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 02:16 |
|
osmoze |
hello all |
| 07:47 |
|
owen |
Good day #koha |
| 07:47 |
|
paul |
good morning owen |
| 07:48 |
|
owen |
Hi paul, how are you? |
| 07:48 |
|
kados |
hi guys |
| 07:48 |
|
paul |
hi kados. |
| 07:48 |
|
kados |
yay! :-) |
| 07:48 |
|
kados |
how was the time off? :-) |
| 07:48 |
|
owen |
busy busy busy |
| 07:48 |
|
kados |
(anyone else having trouble getting to bugs.koha.org?) |
| 07:50 |
|
owen |
Working for me, if slowly |
| 07:50 |
|
kados |
k ... must be my internet |
| 07:50 |
|
owen |
kados: are you in your new offices? |
| 07:50 |
|
owen |
Read something about you moving in the log |
| 07:50 |
|
kados |
I'm piggybacking on the frognet backbone this morning |
| 07:50 |
|
kados |
yea, we're all moved in |
| 07:50 |
|
kados |
and every muscle on my body is sore :-) |
| 07:50 |
|
owen |
Three floors up? |
| 07:50 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 07:52 |
|
hdl |
hi everyone |
| 07:53 |
|
kados |
hey hdl |
| 07:59 |
|
owen |
kados: what's on the agenda for today? |
| 08:03 |
|
kados |
well ... I'm playing catch up for the next hour or so, email and such |
| 08:03 |
|
kados |
didn't get much done this weekend :-) |
| 08:04 |
|
paul |
kados & owen : I installed koha 2.2.6RC to one of my library yesterday, and they think having opacnav AFTER the menus would be better than BEFORE. do you have an opinion ? |
| 08:05 |
|
kados |
is there any way to make it an option? because I have about 10 libraries or so that already use this feature |
| 08:05 |
|
paul |
a new systempref would be too much I think. I'll tell her we have decided to put it before. |
| 08:06 |
|
paul |
she won't be too upset by this limit I bet. |
| 08:06 |
|
paul |
(http://catalogue.iptheologie.f[…]oha/opac-main.pl) |
| 08:24 |
|
owen |
paul: opacnav after which menus? |
| 08:30 |
|
paul |
owen : after the main menus, on left (home/adv search/authorities headings...) |
| 08:31 |
|
owen |
paul: isn't that a template issue specific to the CSS templates? |
| 08:32 |
|
paul |
nope : iirc, yours are before the menus too. |
| 08:32 |
|
paul |
and as we want to have only 1 set of template at the end, i don't want to add a difference where there is none for instance ! |
| 08:48 |
|
thd |
paul: are you there? |
| 08:49 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 08:58 |
|
thd |
paul: I just wanted to ask that you include the one line fix for bulkmarcimport.pl which I committed last week to the 2.2.6 release |
| 08:59 |
|
paul |
if you committed it in rel_22, then it's included |
| 08:59 |
|
thd |
yes I did |
| 08:59 |
|
thd |
or rel_2_2 |
| 09:00 |
|
thd |
kados: are you awake |
| 09:01 |
|
thd |
? |
| 09:01 |
|
paul |
(he was here 45mn ago, so no, he's not sleeping) |
| 09:40 |
|
speedyfs |
hi |
| 09:40 |
|
dewey |
bonjour, speedyfs |
| 09:40 |
|
speedyfs |
anyone on? |
| 09:41 |
|
speedyfs |
bonjour |
| 09:41 |
|
speedyfs |
i have a ? |
| 09:41 |
|
speedyfs |
the opac page for koha is giving me an internal error and im not sure from what |
| 09:42 |
|
paul |
hi speedyfs. did you checked your logs ? |
| 09:42 |
|
paul |
they are on / usr/local/koha/logs iirc and if you don't have changed your koha path |
| 09:42 |
|
speedyfs |
no yet..going to |
| 09:46 |
|
speedyfs |
ok it says that html template new() cannot open included file .../koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/default/en/opac-main.mtpl |
| 09:46 |
|
speedyfs |
tmpl |
| 09:47 |
|
speedyfs |
then it says thtmlLLTemplate ::_init_template('html::Template=hash called at /usr/share/perl5/HTML/Template.pm line 1205 |
| 09:48 |
|
paul |
there is a problem in you etc/koha.conf file I bet. the intrahtdocs is probably wrong |
| 09:48 |
|
speedyfs |
so i guess this all means that the templas arrent working |
| 09:48 |
|
paul |
which version did you install ? |
| 09:48 |
|
speedyfs |
liblime |
| 09:48 |
|
paul |
ah, then beep kados ;-) |
| 09:48 |
|
speedyfs |
cause the other one doesnt work with msql 5 |
| 09:48 |
|
paul |
you mean a version with zebra ? |
| 09:48 |
|
speedyfs |
? |
| 09:49 |
|
speedyfs |
i went to liblime.com? |
| 09:49 |
|
speedyfs |
yeah with the zebra |
| 09:50 |
|
paul |
mmm... on liblime.com, the download link point to official releases (nongnu.org) |
| 09:50 |
|
speedyfs |
i spoke to someone and they said that liblime works wiht mysql 5 |
| 09:50 |
|
speedyfs |
hmm... |
| 09:51 |
|
speedyfs |
i dunno |
| 09:51 |
|
paul |
so I dunno either ;-) |
| 09:51 |
|
speedyfs |
im doing this to get z3950 working |
| 09:51 |
|
speedyfs |
should i just downgrade to mysql4? |
| 09:51 |
|
paul |
kados was around 1:30 hour later, so he could wait for him coming back. |
| 09:52 |
|
speedyfs |
ok |
| 09:52 |
|
speedyfs |
hmm, |
| 09:52 |
|
speedyfs |
how do i beep? |
| 09:54 |
|
speedyfs |
oh and for some reason when i install it |
| 09:54 |
|
kados |
speedyfs: what's your question? |
| 09:54 |
|
speedyfs |
hi |
| 09:54 |
|
dewey |
hey, speedyfs |
| 09:54 |
|
speedyfs |
i am getting errors on my templates |
| 09:54 |
|
speedyfs |
i was told that because i have mysql 5 i had to use liblime koha |
| 09:54 |
|
kados |
what version of KOha, running on what platform with what dependencies installed? |
| 09:54 |
|
kados |
who told you that? |
| 09:55 |
|
speedyfs |
2.2.5 |
| 09:55 |
|
paul |
(speedyfs : "beeping" here just means writing the nick of the person you want to speak to : most of us uses a software that warn us specifically when our nick is typed) |
| 09:55 |
|
speedyfs |
oh ok |
| 09:55 |
|
kados |
the liblime version has some enhancements, but mysql 5.0 support is not one of them |
| 09:56 |
|
kados |
perhaps if we get sponsorship for this we could do it, but so far it's low priority |
| 09:56 |
|
kados |
we run mysql 4.1 |
| 09:56 |
|
speedyfs |
ok... |
| 09:56 |
|
speedyfs |
it was mhelman |
| 09:56 |
|
speedyfs |
so... |
| 09:57 |
|
speedyfs |
i should put mysql 4 on there |
| 09:57 |
|
kados |
not 4.0 though ... make sure 4.1 |
| 09:57 |
|
speedyfs |
ok |
| 09:57 |
|
kados |
4.1 is the first version to truly support utf-8 |
| 09:57 |
|
speedyfs |
mysql 4.1 |
| 09:57 |
|
speedyfs |
ok |
| 09:57 |
|
speedyfs |
currently my template page is have a problem |
| 09:57 |
|
speedyfs |
www.scienceleadership.org:8000 |
| 09:59 |
|
kados |
did you check the apache logs? |
| 10:01 |
|
speedyfs |
i checked the opac-error-logs |
| 10:06 |
|
speedyfs |
i am thinking if i delete everything now and reinstall with mysql 4.1 evertynig should work correct? |
| 10:07 |
|
speedyfs |
kados: if i uninstall koha and install it using mysql 4.1 it should work out of box |
| 10:07 |
|
speedyfs |
correct? |
| 10:09 |
|
speedyfs |
in the apache error log it says that /var/www/favicon.ico does not exist |
| 10:10 |
|
paul |
it's not really a bug : your webbrowser is searching for a favicon (to display on top-left of your window), and can't find one. |
| 10:11 |
|
osmoze|amd64 |
just create an empty file on /var/www/favicon.ico and you will not have anymore message |
| 10:13 |
|
speedyfs |
ok |
| 10:13 |
|
speedyfs |
that message is gone now |
| 10:14 |
|
speedyfs |
but my ? was that if i get mysql 4.1 on my server and install koha all over again i shouldnt get the internal server error anymore |
| 10:14 |
|
speedyfs |
does that sound right to you all |
| 10:15 |
|
speedyfs |
oh and i misread what mhelman said about mysql 5 |
| 10:15 |
|
speedyfs |
my bad |
| 10:51 |
|
hdl |
tumer ? |
| 10:51 |
|
dewey |
tumer is, like, here for a few seconds ;-) |
| 10:53 |
|
thd |
owen: are you there? |
| 10:53 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 10:54 |
|
thd |
owen: I wanted to ask why you use a 'pixilated' rather than a percent of screen width value for the left column in the NPL templates |
| 10:55 |
|
owen |
In which version? |
| 10:55 |
|
thd |
owen: the version being used for your current efforts on Zoom OPAC |
| 10:56 |
|
speedyfs |
HEY Kados, paul thanks for your help :) its working now |
| 10:57 |
|
owen |
thd: because using percentages broke the layout at larger screen sizes |
| 10:57 |
|
paul |
your welcome |
| 10:58 |
|
thd |
owen: how did they break the layout. Did everything not expand proportionately? |
| 10:58 |
|
owen |
Are you having problems with the fixed width? |
| 11:00 |
|
thd |
owen: no, except that I think once code exists for putting the facets from all the results instead of just that page you are liable to see a problem. |
| 11:04 |
|
owen |
thd: Won't we just be talking about a longer rather than a wider list? |
| 11:05 |
|
thd |
owen: I suspect a small fixed width constrains coding imagination of how the facets are used as well. I am not referring to my infomaniac conceptions but just common sense notions for finding other records with the facet exclusively. |
| 11:06 |
|
thd |
owen: much longer instead of wider if subjects also have subdivisions appearing. |
| 11:06 |
|
thd |
owen: if it is wider there would be less wrapping. |
| 11:07 |
|
thd |
owen: this is not a significant issue for NPL which has very few subdivided subjects and a very small portion of non-fiction in the collection. |
| 11:10 |
|
thd |
owen: there are many ways to address the issue including a facets tab which gives facets plenty of room. I just wanted to know what your thought was about fixing pixel sizes. |
| 11:11 |
|
thd |
owen: where do the library navigation links which had occupied the left column go now? |
| 11:11 |
|
thd |
owen: I mean where do the links that preceded facets go now? |
| 11:13 |
|
owen |
If opacnav is enabled, those links will appear above the facets |
| 11:14 |
|
thd |
owen: many libraries have a very long list of opacnav type links |
| 11:14 |
|
thd |
owen: not current Koha libraries but libraries in the world |
| 11:15 |
|
owen |
We could remove opacnav from the search results screen altogether |
| 11:16 |
|
paul_away |
bye #koha & see you tomorrow |
| 11:16 |
|
thd |
owen: I just wonder whether the brief results really need so much screen space, particularly at high resolutions |
| 11:17 |
|
thd |
bye paul_away |
| 11:18 |
|
thd |
owen: does JavaScript allow automatic detection of screen resolution? |
| 11:18 |
|
thd |
or browser window size? |
| 11:19 |
|
owen |
More current browsers can use javascript to detect the width of the browser window |
| 11:21 |
|
thd |
owen: I was thinking, that if browser window width were found to be high enough opacnav could be an additional leftmost column |
| 11:22 |
|
thd |
owen: does JavaScript allow changing stylesheets based on some variable? |
| 11:22 |
|
owen |
Javascript can manipulate the styles of elements on the page. It can't swap whole stylesheets. |
| 11:25 |
|
thd |
owen: Do you mean that JavaScript could redraw the page and change the classes for various elements to different ones used by the same stylesheet? |
| 11:25 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 11:26 |
|
thd |
owen: ok, thanks, I will think about that a little |
