Time |
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Nick |
Message |
16:27 |
|
thd |
kados: I sent you a now good adaptation of the koha.org CSS for the wiki. Please take a look. |
22:46 |
|
qiqo |
hi every body |
22:47 |
|
qiqo |
im having some difficulties with my opac |
23:03 |
|
qiqo |
ei |
23:03 |
|
qiqo |
ermm i was required to install mysql5 on my machine because a there is a dependency problem |
23:04 |
|
qiqo |
now that i installed koha.. whenever is use the opac.. the results are only blank spaces |
23:07 |
|
qiqo |
anyone who can help? |
23:18 |
|
qiqo |
ermm heullo |
03:04 |
|
qiqo |
anybody awake? |
03:05 |
|
qiqo |
:( |
05:47 |
|
Strait |
hmm |
05:47 |
|
Strait |
i could be wrong, but i think that mysql5 is highly problematic |
05:47 |
|
Strait |
i haven't managed to get any koha installations to work with it |
05:47 |
|
chris |
im not running it anywhere in production |
05:48 |
|
Strait |
4.1 works like a charm :) |
05:48 |
|
chris |
yep 4.2 too |
05:49 |
|
Strait |
they have probably changed the syntax of 5 once again |
05:49 |
|
Strait |
or something else |
05:50 |
|
chris |
because we are making major changes for koha 2.4 .. and 3.0 .. we probably will concentrate on making that work with 5 .. and not do to much for the 2.2 series |
05:50 |
|
chris |
unless we get time that is |
05:51 |
|
chris |
or someone volunteers ;) |
05:52 |
|
Strait |
there is always that of course |
05:53 |
|
chris |
the main thing |
05:53 |
|
chris |
is the joins have changed in mysql 5 |
05:53 |
|
chris |
so sql that worked in 4, doesnt work |
05:53 |
|
Strait |
beautiful... |
05:53 |
|
chris |
yeah its not so pretty |
05:54 |
|
chris |
i had a post on my blog about it |
05:54 |
|
chris |
but i broke my blog the other day |
05:54 |
|
Strait |
where is your blog? |
05:54 |
|
chris |
so i cant look it up |
05:54 |
|
Strait |
ah, ok |
05:54 |
|
chris |
http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz/ |
05:55 |
|
chris |
normally that will redirect you to the blog .. when i fix it :0 |
05:55 |
|
chris |
basically before you could do things like |
05:55 |
|
chris |
select * from table1,table2,table3 |
05:56 |
|
chris |
left join table4 on table1.something = table4.something |
05:56 |
|
chris |
now for it to work |
05:56 |
|
chris |
it would have to be |
05:56 |
|
chris |
select * from table2,table3,table1 |
05:56 |
|
chris |
left join table4 on table1.something = table4.something |
05:57 |
|
Strait |
er...? |
05:57 |
|
Strait |
the difference being? |
05:57 |
|
Strait |
ah, the order |
05:57 |
|
chris |
Beginning with MySQL 5.0.12, natural joins and joins with USING, including outer join variants, are processed according to the SQL:2003 standard. The goal was to align the syntax and semantics of MySQL with respect to NATURAL JOIN and JOIN ... USING according to SQL:2003. However, these changes in join processing can result in different output columns for some joins. Also, some queries that appeared to work correctly in older versions must be rewritten to c |
05:58 |
|
chris |
http://mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/join.html |
05:58 |
|
chris |
lots of stuff there |
05:58 |
|
chris |
but thats the main problem i ran into last time i played with 5 |
05:58 |
|
Strait |
(which one on the picture is you?) |
05:59 |
|
chris |
the one on the left |
05:59 |
|
Strait |
ok |
06:00 |
|
chris |
can you name any of the others? :) |
06:00 |
|
Strait |
one beside you is Linus |
06:01 |
|
Strait |
but i don't know the other two |
06:01 |
|
chris |
rusty russel (wrote netfilter/iptables amongst other things) |
06:01 |
|
chris |
and then jon 'maddog' hall |
06:02 |
|
chris |
was at the linux conference earlier this year |
06:02 |
|
Strait |
ok :) |
06:02 |
|
Strait |
where was it held? |
06:02 |
|
chris |
dunedin (in the south island of nz) |
06:02 |
|
chris |
got some good press for Koha :) |
06:02 |
|
Strait |
i see |
06:03 |
|
Strait |
that's a good thing |
06:03 |
|
Strait |
i recently introduced koha to a bunch of library professionals in finland |
06:04 |
|
Strait |
they seemed interested |
06:04 |
|
Strait |
but a bit careful |
06:04 |
|
Strait |
we have this holy tietoenator here |
06:04 |
|
Strait |
with their Pallas library system |
06:05 |
|
chris |
ahh yep |
06:05 |
|
Strait |
we currently have 3 different MARC variants in use |
06:05 |
|
chris |
yikes |
06:05 |
|
Strait |
which is insane |
06:05 |
|
chris |
way to make life difficult |
06:05 |
|
Strait |
indeed |
06:05 |
|
chris |
i have enough trouble with one |
06:05 |
|
Strait |
public libraries use |
06:06 |
|
Strait |
FINMARC mostly |
06:06 |
|
Strait |
an old national format that is no longer maintained |
06:06 |
|
Strait |
the there is MARC21-Fin which is almost MARC21 but with some national additions |
06:06 |
|
Strait |
it's a format that nobody really wanted, but it had to be done |
06:06 |
|
chris |
right |
06:07 |
|
Strait |
and then there is pure MARC21 |
06:07 |
|
Strait |
which we are moving towards to |
06:07 |
|
chris |
MARC , the standard that isnt |
06:08 |
|
Strait |
currently if we want to convert records from FINMARC to MARC21 we'll have to do it through MARC21-Fin at the moment |
06:08 |
|
Strait |
which is also insane |
06:08 |
|
dewey |
okay, Strait. |
06:08 |
|
chris |
which? |
06:08 |
|
dewey |
which is really annoying or insane |
06:08 |
|
chris |
heh |
06:08 |
|
Strait |
? |
06:08 |
|
chris |
that would be quite hard double conversion, without losing anything |
06:09 |
|
chris |
strait: dewey is a bot |
06:09 |
|
Strait |
ah, ok |
06:09 |
|
Strait |
:D |
06:09 |
|
chris |
it learns things |
06:09 |
|
chris |
chris? |
06:09 |
|
dewey |
hmmm... chris is now too |
06:09 |
|
chris |
kados? |
06:09 |
|
dewey |
kados is, like, becoming a true Perl Monger |
06:09 |
|
chris |
koha? |
06:09 |
|
dewey |
koha is the first open-source ILS or a good free software ILS |
06:09 |
|
chris |
plus can do things like |
06:09 |
|
chris |
seen strait? |
06:09 |
|
dewey |
strait was last seen on #koha 27 seconds ago, saying: :D [Sun Aug 20 23:09:22 2006] |
06:09 |
|
chris |
which is handy |
06:10 |
|
Strait |
ok |
06:11 |
|
Strait |
hmm |
06:11 |
|
Strait |
i think i'll be off to have some lunch |
06:11 |
|
chris |
hmm, if its lunch for you |
06:11 |
|
chris |
it must be time for sleep for me :) |
06:11 |
|
Strait |
sleep tight |
06:11 |
|
chris |
enjoy the rest of your day |
06:12 |
|
Strait |
will try |
09:32 |
|
toins |
hi |
09:32 |
|
dewey |
hey, toins |