| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:08 |
|
shedges |
morning kados |
| 11:13 |
|
kados |
morning |
| 11:13 |
|
kados |
looks like the cron jobs ran this morning |
| 11:14 |
|
shedges |
good deal! |
| 11:14 |
|
shedges |
kados: can you copy .76/home/basement/bin/import into my directory? |
| 11:14 |
|
shedges |
I need to take a look at it, don't have permission |
| 11:15 |
|
shedges |
(and want to be sure I'm working on the right version) |
| 11:15 |
|
kados |
yep ... just a sec |
| 11:16 |
|
kados |
k ... it's called importcurrent |
| 11:17 |
|
shedges |
thnx! |
| 12:45 |
|
owen |
|hdl|, are you around? |
| 12:45 |
|
|hdl| |
yes |
| 12:46 |
|
owen |
Hi. I'm curious about an opac script that is fairly new: opac-recacquisitions.pl |
| 12:46 |
|
owen |
It doesn't seem to be linked to from anywhere |
| 12:47 |
|
|hdl| |
It should be now. |
| 12:47 |
|
|hdl| |
Paul made a correction to opac-mainpage. |
| 12:48 |
|
|hdl| |
It is just for ppl to be able to detail by branch |
| 12:51 |
|
owen |
Maybe he hasn't committed it yet? I don't see it. |
| 12:51 |
|
|hdl| |
I shall tell him :) |
| 12:54 |
|
|hdl| |
or do it myself... :> |
| 13:18 |
|
tim |
kados: renews weren't working. Got a 404 error. Copied renewscript.pl from cvsrepos/2.2.x/koha/ to intranet/cgi-bin/members |
| 13:18 |
|
kados |
did that fix it? |
| 13:19 |
|
tim |
Yup |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 13:19 |
|
tim |
Was that an ok way to fix it? |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 13:43 |
|
kados |
thd: you here? |
| 14:10 |
|
thd |
yes kados |
| 15:25 |
|
kados |
thd: I can't get the MARC Authorities working on my other test server |
| 15:26 |
|
kados |
thd: can't really get them working on koha.liblime.com either |
| 15:29 |
|
tim |
I just noticed the information around the patron photos on the circ computers looked different from mine. Different versions of Firefox. I'm upgradigng the circ computers. |
| 15:38 |
|
kados |
tim: what was the difference? |
| 15:46 |
|
kados |
thd: I can't get the MARC Authorities working on my other test server |
| 15:46 |
|
kados |
thd: can't really get them working on koha.liblime.com either |
| 15:46 |
|
kados |
thd: if you have some time to troubleshoot that'd be great |
| 15:46 |
|
thd |
kados: yes I have time |
| 16:16 |
|
owen |
kados, you know how nothing was showing up under 'summary' when we searched for an authority? |
| 16:18 |
|
thd |
owen: that was because kados had omitted summary text from the author authority type he had created. |
| 16:19 |
|
owen |
thd: do you know why there would be both description and summary? |
| 16:20 |
|
thd |
owen: Descriptions are usually long summaries :) |
| 16:20 |
|
owen |
But in the authority edit screen, description is the text input line and summary is the huge textarea! |
| 16:21 |
|
owen |
thd: do you know why the authority search results page wouldn't show the value of the authority? |
| 16:22 |
|
owen |
How do you know what you're editing if all it shows is 'Author' and an authority id number? |
| 16:24 |
|
thd |
owen: The authority system was designed to return the value of the authority to the form so maybe it shows nothing with only one match found. |
| 16:24 |
|
thd |
owen: However that may be a bug/design error. |
| 16:25 |
|
thd |
owen: It may actually have worked correctly earlier. |
| 16:26 |
|
thd |
owen: also the description is the small text box in the authority type creation form while the summary is the large text area. |
| 16:26 |
|
owen |
Yeah, that's what I said |
| 16:28 |
|
owen |
Right now when I do a search I get this: in the results table: ' Personal Name Author Authorities' '0 biblio(s)' [incorrect] ' Authority number 2' [edit] [delete] |
| 16:28 |
|
thd |
owen: obviously a bad translation from French :) |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
when I do an OPAC dictionary search for 'author' |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
using 'ferraro' |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
I see the Personal Name Author Authorities entry |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
(of course it doesn't tell me what the actual term is, so it's pretty much useless) |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
it also says 'Used in' 0 records |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
when I happen to know it's used in two records |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
so that's a puzzel |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
puzzle even |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
also, when I do select the value there |
| 16:39 |
|
owen |
The only part of that table that isn't broken is 'edit' and 'delete' ! |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
all it does is copy the textual value of that authority record into the search box |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
then a search on it is just a normal author search -- it doesn't allow me to pull up the records that are linked to that authority |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
so as near as I can tell, the only reason someone would want to use this |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
would be to have the ability to bulk update the value of an authority |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
ie if I suddenly were to be knighted |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
and you wanted to add |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
Sir Joshua Ferraro |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
to all the books I've written |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
without having to edit all the records |
| 16:42 |
|
kados |
thd: let me know when you're back |
| 16:42 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 16:43 |
|
thd |
kados I am back |
| 16:45 |
|
thd |
kados: authority searching is not yet supported in the OPAC |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 16:46 |
|
thd |
kados: so you could not search on kados to find Joshua |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
well it doesn't work in the intranet either |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
the authority records aren't attaching to the bib records |
| 16:46 |
|
thd |
kados: yes there does seem to be a template defect |
| 16:49 |
|
thd |
kados: Perhaps something is missing because building authorities uses some obscure SQL storage to display the term. |
| 16:49 |
|
thd |
s/term/authorised form of the authority/ |
| 16:50 |
|
thd |
kados: When I had investigated months ago I had noticed only the issue where summary needed to be populated. |
| 16:52 |
|
thd |
kados: If it is merely a question of adding the authorised form to the list of authorities returned from a search that should be relatively easy to fix. |
| 16:53 |
|
kados |
I see two issues so far |
| 16:53 |
|
kados |
1. when you do a search for an authority record it doesn't tell you the value ... just the type and summary |
| 16:54 |
|
kados |
2. the authorities records aren't properly linking to the bib records |
| 16:54 |
|
kados |
the other problem I stated about the OPAC really makes authorities mostly useless in their current state |
| 16:54 |
|
kados |
though it might not take much to make an OPAC authorities search |
| 16:55 |
|
kados |
(in fact, this might solve the problems that BWS Johnson has mentioned about current misshandling of 650x) |
| 16:55 |
|
thd |
kados: problem 1 may be caused by the cause of problem 2 although they ought to be independent problems under some possible design. |
| 16:56 |
|
kados |
I just don't understand how paul's libraries function with this system |
| 16:57 |
|
thd |
kados: Authorities are valuable so that every time we catalogue another one of your fine works we do not attribute a different name to you despite the fact that you may have had your name printed in different ways in each of your books. |
| 16:59 |
|
thd |
kados: in one book the copyright page may show your name as J M Ferraro, another Joshua Ferraro, another Josh Ferraro, another JMF, another kados. |
| 17:01 |
|
thd |
kados: your authorised name would be the most complete form of your name that would ideally have been taken from the most complete form of your name with birth year filed at the copyright office if you did the right thing and registered your copyrights. |
| 17:03 |
|
thd |
kados: So you might appear as Joshua Mxxx Ferraro 19XX- in the copyright office files and that name could be used to find all your works and distinguish you from every other Joshua Ferraro |
| 17:03 |
|
owen |
We agree, thd: that's why it's so frustrating that the existing system doesn't seem to work properly |
| 17:03 |
|
kados |
so basically we need to either dive into the code or wait for paul to return from paris so we can bug him to fix authorities |
| 17:04 |
|
kados |
my head's too full already to attempt to reverse engineer right now |
| 17:04 |
|
kados |
so I guess we'll have to wait until next week to work on authorities |
| 17:04 |
|
kados |
in the meantime, maybe owen will have had a chance to update the npl templates so that I can bear to view the screens :-) |
| 17:05 |
|
thd |
kados: the statement of responsibility for the record would still include your name just as it appeared in the published version, no matter what the actual authorised form of your name was. |
| 17:05 |
|
kados |
thd: lets postpone the authorities work till I can talk to paul |
| 17:06 |
|
thd |
kados: This should not be difficult to fix. |
| 17:06 |
|
kados |
thd: do you want to discuss improvements to the MARC editor? |
| 17:06 |
|
kados |
thd: ie subfield repeatability and reordering? |
| 17:06 |
|
thd |
kados: Why not try with an SQL dump of the authority framework. |
| 17:07 |
|
thd |
kados: I mean an SQL dump of a working authority framework. |
| 17:07 |
|
kados |
thd: do you have one? |
| 17:07 |
|
kados |
thd: I don't have a working framework on any of my boxes |
| 17:07 |
|
thd |
kados: not on my hose system but you have one for the liblime box. |
| 17:08 |
|
thd |
kados: what was the problem on the LibLime server? |
| 17:09 |
|
thd |
s/hose/home/ |
| 17:10 |
|
kados |
thd: the liblime server has exactly the same problems that the NPL test box has |
| 17:11 |
|
thd |
kados: Did you try linking bibliographic records to Joshua on that system? |
| 17:12 |
|
thd |
kados: The Kerr authority record was not created as an author record for some reason. |
| 17:13 |
|
thd |
kados: I suspect that you had created Kerr before the author authority type framework had been defined correctly. |
| 17:13 |
|
kados |
I haven't played with it since last night, but I know it wasn't working last night |
| 17:14 |
|
thd |
kados: We should do one experiment to at least give you some information to convey to paul. |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
ok, lets do it |
| 17:15 |
|
thd |
kados: Or even to hdl who must understand the authorises code well. |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
I'll make the default templates available again |
| 17:16 |
|
thd |
kados: set 100 $9 to managed in the same tab as 100 $a for the bibliographic framework. |
| 17:17 |
|
kados |
thd: er? |
| 17:17 |
|
kados |
thd: ahh ... got it |
| 17:18 |
|
kados |
ok, so I must create $9 first ... it's not ther eby default |
| 17:18 |
|
kados |
ok, done |
| 17:18 |
|
kados |
now I'll add a new authority record for authors |
| 17:19 |
|
thd |
kados: really, it was left out of the MARC 21 bibliographic framework |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
ok, a new authority for author 'James Hill' was created |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
now I"ll create a new book |
| 17:21 |
|
thd |
kados: ok see if $9 end up populated the authority record number. |
| 17:21 |
|
thd |
when you add jame hill using the plugin. |
| 17:22 |
|
thd |
s/jame hill/James Hill/ |
| 17:22 |
|
kados |
yep, it did |
| 17:23 |
|
thd |
kados: save that new biblio record. now if you make another record or search authorities from the authority search you should have one biblio already. |
| 17:26 |
|
thd |
kados: npl templatea are back |
| 17:26 |
|
kados |
thd: yea, I was testing |
| 17:26 |
|
kados |
thd: ok ... so the authorities search works with default templates now |
| 17:26 |
|
kados |
but only from the intranet |
| 17:26 |
|
kados |
the OPAC does not work |
| 17:26 |
|
kados |
with either template |
| 17:27 |
|
thd |
kados: does it not work with npl on the intranet? |
| 17:27 |
|
thd |
kados: aside from the problem that your templates cannot find authorities? |
| 17:28 |
|
kados |
thd: it does work |
| 17:28 |
|
kados |
http://koha.liblime.com/cgi-bi[…]thorities-home.pl |
| 17:28 |
|
thd |
kados: I mean your custom LibLime templates miss the navigation element to authorities. |
| 17:29 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 17:30 |
|
thd |
kados: Koha had never been set up for OPAC use of authorities. Paul had been saving that for 3.0 |
| 17:30 |
|
kados |
it seems like the code to do it is already in the intranet |
| 17:30 |
|
kados |
should be quite simple to merge it over |
| 17:31 |
|
thd |
kados: The template needs to be fixed to return the authorised value visibly as part of a search result. |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
owen: let me know as soon as you have committed the fixes, I'll update the Liblime demo |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
owen: since the authorities framework seems to be working there |
| 17:33 |
|
thd |
kados: Do you have someone interested in funding bulkauthimport and use of authorities past $a? |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
thd: so should we work on a bulkauthimport.pl next? |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
thd: yes |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
thd: in fact, it's already funded :-) |
| 17:34 |
|
thd |
kados: what happened to your having to ask for months for people to make up their mind? |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
thd: I already asked for months with this client :) |
| 17:35 |
|
thd |
kados: well I am glad to be living in the future now |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
thd: :-) |
| 17:39 |
|
thd |
kados: you need to dump all the tables starting with auth_ |
| 17:40 |
|
thd |
kados: That will capture all the authority information inculing the individual authority files. |
| 17:40 |
|
kados |
thd: I'm just going to quickly create a completely new database |
| 17:40 |
|
kados |
thd: based on the demo |
| 17:40 |
|
kados |
thd: so we can hack on it without scaring customers away :-) |
| 17:41 |
|
kados |
thd: you would be surprised how many visits the demos get every day |
| 17:41 |
|
thd |
kados: actually, only the authority frameworks would be best for exporting to the NPL test box if you had wanted to do that. |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
thd: naw ... |
| 17:42 |
|
thd |
ok |
| 17:43 |
|
thd |
kados: for future reference the authority frameworks are held in 3 tables |
| 17:56 |
|
kados |
ok ... new demos ready: |
| 17:56 |
|
kados |
http://opac2.liblime.com/ |
| 17:57 |
|
kados |
http://koha2.liblime.com/ |
| 17:57 |
|
kados |
different database, same scripts and templates as regular demo |
| 17:57 |
|
kados |
well ... database is a copy ... |
| 18:14 |
|
thd |
kados: you could host the concise documentation and you could offer LC MARC records for free. |
| 18:18 |
|
thd |
kados: yes ALA, LA, and one other organisation perhaps have collective copyright on AACR2. |
| 18:19 |
|
thd |
kados: LC MARC records can be used in whatever way you want after you have pad for the very high distribution fee. |
| 18:19 |
|
kados |
http://www.aacr2.org/governance.html |
| 18:20 |
|
thd |
kados: http://www.loc.gov/cds/mds.html#lcaf |
| 18:20 |
|
kados |
wow |
| 18:20 |
|
kados |
that's pricy |
| 18:20 |
|
owen |
kados: I committed updated authorities templates. The styling is incomplete, but they should function just like default. |
| 18:21 |
|
kados |
owen: great, thanks |
| 18:21 |
|
thd |
kados: you could acquire LC MARC records from a reseller but the reseller is liable to impose a usage contract restriction. |
| 18:21 |
|
kados |
owen: just files in the authorities directory in templates? |
| 18:21 |
|
owen |
yes |
| 18:22 |
|
owen |
Was there a problem also with pages in admin ? |
| 18:22 |
|
thd |
kados: Liblime could be come a reseller and at least supply authority records along with Koha support as an extra value option |
| 18:23 |
|
kados |
k ... demos updated |
| 18:23 |
|
kados |
thd: interestingly, that might be an option |
| 18:24 |
|
kados |
thd: of course, Koha in it's current state could never handle 6 million authority records for authors :-) |
| 18:24 |
|
thd |
owen: I assume that function like the default means that you have not yet changed the template so the authorised name appears in the result of an authority search |
| 18:25 |
|
owen |
I've only done cosmetic markup changes to the templates. No functionality changes to the scripts. |
| 18:25 |
|
thd |
kados: 6 million records should be now problem in 6 months of development |
| 18:25 |
|
kados |
thd: that's true |
| 18:26 |
|
kados |
11K per year is kinda steep |
| 18:26 |
|
kados |
if it was a one time cost maybe |
| 18:26 |
|
thd |
kados: and If you have very many customers for your 6 million records then you can recover your cost at a very low price. |
| 18:27 |
|
kados |
right |
| 18:27 |
|
kados |
thd: the real question is: can I use LOC authority files to 'clean up' the authorities for my current client |
| 18:27 |
|
kados |
thd: using Koha with some minor modifications |
| 18:27 |
|
kados |
thd: if so, I may be able to swing this |
| 18:28 |
|
thd |
kados: There may be an issue with subject subdivisions |
| 18:28 |
|
kados |
thd: the clean up I assume would be automated with perhaps some manual components |
| 18:29 |
|
thd |
kados: There seems to be a difference between how subject authorities work for UNIMARC as compared to MARC 21. |
| 18:30 |
|
thd |
kados: This seems to cause a problem for a single $9 if there are subject subdivisions. |
| 18:31 |
|
thd |
kados: Maybe a more significant code change would address that where $9 was repeatable and well ordered. |
| 18:32 |
|
thd |
kados: I think we could do a passable job to address all the other issues before addressing that problem. |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
so what is the problem cause by a single $9? |
| 18:33 |
|
kados |
caused |
| 18:34 |
|
thd |
kados: There are no subject authorities in the form of $150 $a $x $X $z $y |
| 18:34 |
|
thd |
kados: They may exist that way in UNIMARC for use with the standard $3 |
| 18:35 |
|
thd |
s/$150/150/ |
| 18:35 |
|
kados |
I still don't understand, sorry |
| 18:36 |
|
thd |
kados: To remind you $3 is the standard in UNIMARC which paul adapted as $9 for any MARC. |
| 18:36 |
|
kados |
ok ... for linking an auth record to a bib record |
| 18:36 |
|
kados |
I understand that |
| 18:37 |
|
thd |
kados: MARC 21 has separate authority records for $a than for $x |
| 18:37 |
|
thd |
n subject authorities |
| 18:38 |
|
thd |
kados: linking those would require more than one $9 |
| 18:39 |
|
kados |
but in it's authority record for $a there is just one field right? |
| 18:39 |
|
kados |
(not even a link right?) |
| 18:41 |
|
thd |
kados: but you may have a subject like 650 #0$aArchitecture$zIllinois$zChicago$xHistory$vPictorial works. in your bibliographic record |
| 18:43 |
|
thd |
kados: I have not studied deeply how authorises might work for this example but there is no authority record containing all that as a single authorised topical heading. |
| 18:44 |
|
thd |
s/authorises/authorities/ |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
kados: Subdivisions have separate authority files |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
# 150 - HEADING--TOPICAL TERM (NR) |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
# 151 - HEADING--GEOGRAPHIC NAME (NR) |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
# 155 - HEADING--GENRE/FORM TERM (NR) |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
# 180 - HEADING--GENERAL SUBDIVISION (NR) |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
# 181 - HEADING--GEOGRAPHIC SUBDIVISION (NR) |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
# 182 - HEADING--CHRONOLOGICAL SUBDIVISION (NR) |
| 18:45 |
|
thd |
# 185 - HEADING--FORM SUBDIVISION (NR) |
| 18:46 |
|
kados |
i'm going to read over the docs on itsmarc's site |
| 18:51 |
|
thd |
kados: do you see the issue that I am identifying |
| 18:51 |
|
thd |
? |
| 18:52 |
|
thd |
kados: In UNIMARC authorities there are at least no separate authority types for subdivisions. |
| 19:00 |
|
thd |
$3 Authority Record Number |
| 19:00 |
|
thd |
The control number for the authority record for the heading. This subfield is intended to be used with the UNIMARC Authorities Format. Not repeatable. |
| 20:01 |
|
tim |
Is the reserve list just for reserves people make online from their accounts? |
| 20:03 |
|
tim |
Because we have a bunch of reserves, but only two make it to the list. |
| 20:05 |
|
tim |
The strange thing is that they're reserves for people who haven't signed up for accounts yet. |
| 20:10 |
|
thd |
kados: are you there? |
| 20:13 |
|
thd |
kados: I cannot find any 180 authorities at http://authorities.loc.gov . |
| 20:14 |
|
thd |
kados: They may not be indexed there or there may be another issue. |
| 20:14 |
|
thd |
kados: I have to go out for a few hours. |
| 20:15 |
|
thd |
kados: I will see what answer I can obtain about authorises with subdivisions tomorrow. |
| 20:16 |
|
thd |
s/authorises/authorities/ |
| 20:17 |
|
thd |
kados: I failed to mention some record conversion price information that I had obtained. |
| 20:18 |
|
thd |
kados: later or tomorrow |
| 22:35 |
|
owen |
kados around? |
| 22:42 |
|
kados |
owen: yep |
| 22:42 |
|
owen |
http://templatelabsopac.liblim[…]koha/opac-user.pl |
| 22:43 |
|
owen |
This page is obviously not getting the new opac system preferences |
| 22:43 |
|
owen |
But I'm not really sure what file to modify |
| 22:43 |
|
kados |
hmm |
| 22:45 |
|
kados |
well strangely it's in there |
| 22:45 |
|
kados |
opaccolorstylesheet => C4::Context->preference("opaccolorstylesheet"), |
| 22:45 |
|
kados |
opaclayoutstylesheet => C4::Context->preference("opaclayoutstylesheet"), |
| 22:46 |
|
owen |
Are you looking at opac-user.pl? |
| 22:47 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 22:48 |
|
owen |
I don't think that's it. Because if you log in, opac-user.pl is styled properly. It's just the login form |
| 22:49 |
|
kados |
er? |
| 22:49 |
|
kados |
ahh ... right |
| 22:50 |
|
kados |
I bet that second template param doesn't get called in that case |
| 22:52 |
|
kados |
I don't get it |
| 22:52 |
|
kados |
where is that login generated from? |
| 22:55 |
|
kados |
opac-auth.tmpl |
| 06:58 |
|
paul |
tiens, un petit nouveau ;-) |
| 06:58 |
|
paul |
welcome onboard ! |
| 06:59 |
|
pierrick |
french speaking channel? |
| 06:59 |
|
paul |
(habituellement, il n'y a que les frenchies qui sont debout à cette heure) |
| 06:59 |
|
paul |
non, mais à cette heure, on est seuls. |
| 06:59 |
|
paul |
donc on peut causer francais. |
| 06:59 |
|
paul |
je ne t'ai pas dit que tout sur ce canal était archivé : |
| 06:59 |
|
paul |
www.koha.org/irc |
| 06:59 |
|
pierrick |
Oc |
| 06:59 |
|
paul |
donc attention à ce que tu écris ;-) |
| 07:00 |
|
pierrick |
je dois me faiarisé avec l'utilisation de mon client IRC, j'utilise très très rarement... |
| 07:01 |
|
paul |
ah, tiens, déjà, tu es en utf8 |
| 07:01 |
|
pierrick |
(d'ailleurs, je fait beaucoup de fautes...) |
| 07:01 |
|
paul |
du cop, les accents sont assez rigolos vu d'ici... |
| 07:01 |
|
paul |
(mais ca ne sera pas un pb en english) |
| 07:01 |
|
pierrick |
oui, si je mets mon terminal en iso, il s'emmêle les pinceaux |
| 07:02 |
|
paul |
??? tu utilises quoi comme client irc ? |
| 07:02 |
|
pierrick |
pour l'archivage, il faudrait peut-être que je passe en iso... |
| 07:02 |
|
pierrick |
irssi-text |
| 07:02 |
|
pierrick |
essai en iso éà|
| 07:03 |
|
paul |
when you'll write in english, you won't have any problem with our french accents. |
| 07:03 |
|
paul |
osmoze around, or just a bot ? |
| 07:03 |
|
osmoze |
around but a lot of probleme this my connection |
| 07:04 |
|
osmoze |
this/with |
| 07:04 |
|
paul |
seems yes : ping timeout à 624 secondes. |
| 07:04 |
|
chris |
evening northern hemispherites :) |
| 07:04 |
|
osmoze |
hello all and excuse me |
| 07:04 |
|
paul |
Pierrick, n'hésite pas à te présenter, puisqu'on n'est plus seuls ! |
| 07:04 |
|
paul |
ladies and gentlemen, i'm happy to introduce pierrick... |
| 07:05 |
|
paul |
hello chris. still not sleeping ? |
| 07:05 |
|
chris |
hi pierrick |
| 07:05 |
|
osmoze |
hi too pierrick |
| 07:05 |
|
paul |
wow... two pierrick for the same price !!! |
| 07:05 |
|
pierrick_ |
je suis en iso via xchat éà |
| 07:06 |
|
pierrick_ |
on dirait que les accents passent mieux, non ? |
| 07:06 |
|
pierrick_ |
salut osmoze |
| 07:06 |
|
paul |
yes, accents are better. |
| 07:06 |
|
chris |
not yet paul |
| 07:06 |
|
chris |
friday night |
| 07:07 |
|
paul |
i've met ineo yesterday. i've flushed my mailbox, i'll write a mail about definitive dates for KohaCon in the next hour. |
| 07:07 |
|
chris |
and super 14 .. so lots of rugby to watch :) |
| 07:07 |
|
chris |
oh excellent paul |
| 07:10 |
|
pierrick |
(sorry to leave and come back... is there a trash channel to make some encoding compliance tests?) éàéàà|
| 07:10 |
|
chris |
you can use #test |
| 07:10 |
|
paul |
just /msg paul some message, and you'll have a private chanel between you and me |
| 07:11 |
|
pierrick_ |
thanks, I'll first make some tests on #test ;-) |
| 07:29 |
|
chris |
ok, time for bed for me |
| 07:29 |
|
chris |
good night |
| 07:31 |
|
paul |
good night chris |
| 07:37 |
|
pierrick_ |
good night chris |
| 07:48 |
|
paul |
Pierrick_ : ce serait bien que tu voies avec JPS et EB comment te présenter sur la liste francophone infos. |
| 07:48 |
|
paul |
Un truc du genre "coucou, c'est moi le ptit nouveau, je suis super content de bosser sur Koha, je vais faire ca, ca et ca dans les mois qui viennent" |
| 07:48 |
|
paul |
sachant que : |
| 07:49 |
|
paul |
certains lisent la liste et font suivre les informations à l'extérieur de la dite liste. donc ce sera une vraie annonce publique. |
| 07:51 |
|
pierrick_ |
OK, je vais demander à JPS et EB |
| 07:59 |
|
paul |
tiens, encore un francais ! |
| 07:59 |
|
paul |
ah, et il est à mpl qui plus est |
| 07:59 |
|
paul |
super nouvelle ! |
| 08:00 |
|
paul |
alors, ca dépote bien nérim ? |
| 08:05 |
|
|hdl| |
oui, ca dépote bien. |
| 08:05 |
|
paul |
tant mieux. tu t'es trouvé une place correcte dans l'appart ? |
| 08:05 |
|
|hdl| |
Pour l'instant, dans la chambre. |
| 08:06 |
|
|hdl| |
Mais on étudie la possibilité de passer dans un placard... :) |
| 08:06 |
|
paul |
ouah ! la promotion !!! |
| 08:06 |
|
|hdl| |
(En fat un cagibi. :) ) |
| 08:06 |
|
pierrick_ |
Bonjour henri-damien |
| 08:06 |
|
paul |
(tu es en utf8 ?) |
| 08:06 |
|
|hdl| |
Bonjour pierrick. |
| 08:06 |
|
pierrick_ |
(encore des problèmes d'accents ;-) |
| 08:06 |
|
|hdl| |
Oui. |
| 08:06 |
|
pierrick_ |
Qu'est ce qu'mpl ? |
| 08:07 |
|
paul |
montpellier. |
| 08:07 |
|
|hdl| |
montpellier :) |
| 08:07 |
|
paul |
3 secondes + rapide ... hehe... |
| 08:07 |
|
|hdl| |
Je dois certainement en avoir. Je suis nouveau en utf-8. |
| 08:07 |
|
paul |
Je suis le maitre du monde !!!! le gardien des clef et le cerbère de la porte... |
| 08:08 |
|
|hdl| |
J'ai essaye de passer ce matin pour pouvoir intégrer les biblio en 3.0 |
| 08:08 |
|
|hdl| |
Mais cela ne fonctionne pas encore. |
| 08:08 |
|
|hdl| |
Alors, cool ? |
| 08:08 |
|
paul |
cet aprem, si j'ai le temps, je vais commiter 2 trucs bien sympa, fournis par Tümer : |
| 08:08 |
|
paul |
- des news à l'opac et dans l'itnerface pro |
| 08:08 |
|
paul |
- la gestion des jours feriés. |
| 08:09 |
|
paul |
ce fut l'autre partie de mon voyage en train ;-) |
| 08:09 |
|
|hdl| |
Comment vas-tu pierrick ? |
| 08:09 |
|
|hdl| |
cool. |
| 08:09 |
|
paul |
code cool, propre et toussa. Juste quelques petites modifs pour harmoniser le tout et faire les templates PROG |
| 08:10 |
|
|hdl| |
hé hé. |
| 08:10 |
|
|hdl| |
Ai-je réglé le problème d'accent ? |
| 08:10 |
|
paul_lunch |
(pas vraiment...) |
| 08:10 |
|
|hdl| |
Bon. |
| 08:20 |
|
pierrick_ |
oups, je ne suis pas suffisamment attentif... comment je vais ? |
| 08:21 |
|
pierrick_ |
ça va très bien, je configure mon PC en ce moment, mon Emacs en particulier |
| 09:07 |
|
pierrick_ |
installer une version stable n'est pas vraiment un problème, par contre, j'ai du mal à installer une copie de travail. J'ai lu le wiki, mais il semble être obsolete, j'ai regardé le script buildrelease, mais je ne pense que ce soit la solution pour un développeur :-/ Existe-t-il une documentation à ce sujet ? |
| 09:24 |
|
pierrick_ |
hdl, tu vois l'historique des messages que j'ai posté en ton absence ? (je réponds à ta question de tout à l'heure et j'en pose une autre) |
| 09:29 |
|
|hdl| |
oui pierrick_. |
| 09:30 |
|
|hdl| |
Effectivement, la version 3.0 est assez ardue à installer. |
| 09:30 |
|
|hdl| |
En fait, on a besoin en plus d'un serveur Zebra et de bien le configurer. |
| 09:31 |
|
|hdl| |
Tu as une base de test ? |
| 09:37 |
|
pierrick_ |
une base MySQL ou Zebra ? |
| 09:37 |
|
pierrick_ |
j'ai un base MySQL mais pas Zebra encore. |
| 09:37 |
|
pierrick_ |
Je vais manger et je m'occupe de tout ça cette après-midi, @+ |
| 10:10 |
|
|hdl| |
paul_lunch: are you still away ? |
| 10:10 |
|
paul |
non |
| 10:32 |
|
pierrick_ |
I'm back |
| 10:48 |
|
kados |
hi all |
| 10:48 |
|
kados |
paul: glad to see the dates finalized |
| 10:48 |
|
kados |
pierrick_: welcome to Koha :-) |
| 10:51 |
|
pierrick_ |
thank you Joshua |
| 10:53 |
|
pierrick_ |
Joshua, I believe you're using Emacs, can you send me an extract of your .emacs configuration file for Perl programming ? (so that we'll have same indents, and so on) |
| 10:53 |
|
kados |
and I recently switched to 4-char tabs |
| 10:53 |
|
pierrick_ |
oups |
| 10:53 |
|
kados |
like paul uses |
| 10:54 |
|
kados |
chris uses jed ... that may be what you're seeing |
| 10:54 |
|
pierrick_ |
Reading the wiki, I thought you were using Emacs :-/ |
| 10:54 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 10:54 |
|
pierrick_ |
(about sentences function) |
| 10:55 |
|
kados |
I used to use emacs ... but I was won over to vi |
| 10:55 |
|
pierrick_ |
my challenge of the day : install a clean Koha working copy |
| 10:56 |
|
kados |
head or rel_2_2? |
| 10:56 |
|
pierrick_ |
Not a stable release (easy) but HEAD |
| 10:56 |
|
kados |
right |
| 10:56 |
|
kados |
I can help you there if you need help as I've done it several times recently |
| 10:57 |
|
pierrick_ |
Well... in fact I don't understand how developers work (environment) |
| 10:58 |
|
kados |
right ... I will explain it |
| 10:58 |
|
pierrick_ |
I suppose my web server don't use files in my working copy |
| 10:58 |
|
kados |
right, you need to symlink your web server locations to the cvs repo |
| 10:58 |
|
kados |
it's quite simple to do |
| 10:58 |
|
kados |
there are five symlinks to create |
| 10:59 |
|
pierrick_ |
(I was quite sure it would this kind of solution :-) |
| 10:59 |
|
kados |
http://www.kohadocs.org/Updating_Koha.html |
| 10:59 |
|
kados |
I wrote up a short description some time ago |
| 10:59 |
|
kados |
I hope it is up to date |
