| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:19 |
|
kados |
morning all |
| 11:20 |
|
kados |
hdl: do you know if paul will be here later? |
| 11:20 |
|
kados |
hdl: I have two questions: |
| 11:21 |
|
kados |
1. if multiple 'search also' are defined for a tag in multiple frameworks, which one is used in a search |
| 11:21 |
|
kados |
2. in 3.0, what are we doing with biblioitemnumber? i had to force it to a value of '1' to avoid getting errors while doing bulkmarcimport |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
hello all |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
hello kados : hdl phoned me and told me you have 2 questions |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
so here I am ! |
| 11:27 |
|
kados |
thanks! :-) |
| 11:27 |
|
kados |
1. if multiple 'search also' are defined for a tag in multiple frameworks, which one is used in a search |
| 11:27 |
|
kados |
2. in 3.0, what are we doing with biblioitemnumber? i had to force it to a value of '1' to avoid getting errors while doing bulkmarcimport |
| 11:27 |
|
kados |
there they are :-) |
| 11:27 |
|
paul |
1- only the default one |
| 11:28 |
|
paul |
2- it depends on what we do with biblio/biblioitem tables ! they are supposed to be populated when adding biblio in non MARC DB |
| 11:28 |
|
paul |
It used to work on HEAD last time I look at it. |
| 11:28 |
|
paul |
but so many ppl did so many dangerous things (me being the 1st !) |
| 11:28 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 11:28 |
|
kados |
it works currently |
| 11:29 |
|
kados |
because I forced biblioitemnumber to a value of '1' to stop errors |
| 11:29 |
|
paul |
katipo will enjoy this with MARC= OFF !!!! |
| 11:30 |
|
paul |
with MARC=ON, it may be harmless, as everything is done on bibliounmber + 1 biblioitem = 1 biblionumber |
| 11:30 |
|
paul |
but with MARC=OFF, it's not the same thing. |
| 11:30 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 11:30 |
|
kados |
so what do you recommend as a more permenant solution? |
| 11:31 |
|
kados |
if MARC=OFF, do we need biblioitem table at all? |
| 11:32 |
|
kados |
and do we need it with MARC=ON? (is it used at all in head?) |
| 11:32 |
|
paul |
with MARC=OFF, adding an biblio means : |
| 11:32 |
|
paul |
* adding a biblio (in biblio table) |
| 11:32 |
|
paul |
* then adding a "group", that is stored in biblioitems |
| 11:32 |
|
paul |
* then adding items in one of the group. |
| 11:32 |
|
paul |
it means we may have : |
| 11:32 |
|
paul |
* biblio : the 2 towers, from Tolkien |
| 11:33 |
|
paul |
* biblioitems : 1 pocket book, ed 1996 and 1 large printed book, ed 2002 |
| 11:33 |
|
kados |
I see, so I need to fix that for MARC=OFF ... |
| 11:33 |
|
paul |
* items : 2 from pocket, 1 from large |
| 11:33 |
|
paul |
yep. |
| 11:33 |
|
kados |
unless katipo wants to switch to an XML basis for koha tables |
| 11:34 |
|
paul |
(plus probably ask chris for some help, as i'm not completly sure CVS is uptodate for MARC=OFF) |
| 11:34 |
|
kados |
right |
| 11:34 |
|
paul |
(he told me it was, when I released 2.2.X, and said it was working fine. But I never used it in France) |
| 11:34 |
|
kados |
I worked on Biblio.pm a bit over the weekend btw |
| 11:35 |
|
kados |
paul: will you be able to make the meeting today? |
| 11:35 |
|
paul |
I saw your work on biblio.pm |
| 11:35 |
|
paul |
(although not precisely) |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
(some on rel_2 some on head) |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
I should be here, but not too long : i awake at 4AM tomorrow morning. |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
(I was able to fix one bug with the MARC editor in rel_2) |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
(but not the other one) |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
so, if we could have less than 1 hour chat, I would be happy...) |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
ok ... wow quite early |
| 11:36 |
|
kados |
I will make sure it is less than an hour |
| 11:36 |
|
paul |
(yep : TGV at 5:29) |
| 11:37 |
|
kados |
(so the bug I could not fix: it seems MARChtml2marc saves blank tags/subfields in a MARC record) |
| 11:37 |
|
kados |
(in rel_2_2) |
| 11:38 |
|
kados |
(bug I did fix was removing a hardcoded 'a' in addfield) |
| 11:41 |
|
paul |
i'll look carefully at your commit. working on 2.2.6 this afternoon. |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
I did several commits, but had to roll back |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
because my final fix for the bug where blank fields are added |
| 11:44 |
|
kados |
also removed ability for tag repeatability |
| 11:45 |
|
kados |
MARChtml2marc is quite a difficult sub to read :-) |
| 11:45 |
|
kados |
and it uses very old MARC::Record techniques |
| 11:46 |
|
kados |
paul: (one more thing to note: MARC::File::XML now automatically converts from MARC-8 to UTF-8) |
| 11:46 |
|
paul |
wow ! great ! |
| 11:46 |
|
kados |
paul: (don't know if you saw my commit note to my changes to head Biblio.om) |
| 11:46 |
|
paul |
(we will be able to get rid with this char_decode in Biblio.pm) |
| 11:46 |
|
kados |
already done in head :-) |
| 11:46 |
|
paul |
not really, i just saw you commited something ! |
| 11:47 |
|
paul |
a question, about utf8 : yoyu told me to check the locale env variable. |
| 11:47 |
|
paul |
how to do this, and how to change it |
| 11:49 |
|
kados |
paul: gentoo howto: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_C[…]-8_enabled_system |
| 11:50 |
|
kados |
paul: btw: did you see my utf-8 enabled demo? |
| 11:50 |
|
paul |
which one ? no |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
http://opac.liblime.com |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
search for 'cheng' |
| 11:51 |
|
kados |
you will see two chinese utf-8 records |
| 11:52 |
|
kados |
cataloged using Koha's MARC editor |
| 11:52 |
|
paul |
works fine (+ nice books, I've read them last week) |
| 11:52 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 11:52 |
|
paul |
:-D |
| 11:52 |
|
paul |
you made something specific to previous cvs code ? |
| 11:53 |
|
kados |
only change I made was to <meta> tag in templates |
| 11:53 |
|
paul |
and you have an utf8 linux ? |
| 11:53 |
|
kados |
http://koha.liblime.com/cgi-bi[…]admin/branches.pl |
| 11:53 |
|
kados |
also note the Chinese branch |
| 11:54 |
|
paul |
ok, so the problem is really a locale one :-( |
| 11:54 |
|
paul |
so many time lost for this... |
| 11:54 |
|
kados |
no |
| 11:54 |
|
kados |
I don't know what the problem is in head |
| 11:54 |
|
kados |
in rel_2_2 it seems to just work |
| 11:54 |
|
kados |
if you change the <meta> tag |
| 11:54 |
|
kados |
in templates |
| 11:54 |
|
kados |
but in head, I still can't get it working |
| 11:55 |
|
kados |
(even though <meta> tags are already changed to use utf-8) |
| 11:55 |
|
paul |
mmm... really poor : the only change is in table encoding in mysql |
| 11:55 |
|
kados |
I wonder if that's the problem |
| 11:55 |
|
paul |
is your system utf8 ready ? |
| 11:55 |
|
paul |
(utf8 enabled I mean) |
| 11:55 |
|
kados |
I haven't checked |
| 11:55 |
|
kados |
yes, all utf-8: |
| 11:55 |
|
kados |
[root gandalf C4]# locale |
| 11:55 |
|
kados |
LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
etc. |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
it's Fedora Core 3 |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
ooh, interesting |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
on my debian box (which is where HEAD is) |
| 11:56 |
|
paul |
my locale is fr_FR |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
koha$ locale |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
LANG=en_US |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
LC_CTYPE="en_US" |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
LC_NUMERIC="en_US" |
| 11:56 |
|
kados |
etc. |
| 11:57 |
|
kados |
so the problem could be locale |
| 11:57 |
|
paul |
hehe... it seems we have something very interesting... |
| 11:57 |
|
kados |
yep :-) |
| 11:57 |
|
kados |
or it could be mysql table encoding :-) |
| 11:57 |
|
kados |
http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.s[…]n-utf8/howto.html |
| 11:57 |
|
kados |
for debian |
| 12:30 |
|
Flash |
Anyone able to answer an LDAP issue? |
| 12:35 |
|
paul |
could be possible. |
| 12:35 |
|
paul |
Hello Flash. |
| 12:39 |
|
Flash |
I have a SuSe 9/Apache2 setup with the web server using LDAP authentication. |
| 12:39 |
|
Flash |
For the most part it works, but I get an error on some pages when I login to Koha. |
| 12:40 |
|
Flash |
I have a member in Koha with the username of mwflach. |
| 12:41 |
|
Flash |
That user is in LDAP. |
| 12:41 |
|
paul |
you mean you have ldap auth for Koha itelf of for apache ? |
| 12:41 |
|
Flash |
I have not done anything to Koha with regards to LDAP. If I enter my ldap username and password I am allowed into Koha. |
| 12:42 |
|
Flash |
The problem it that some pages don't work and it doesn't recognize me as a superlibrarian. |
| 12:43 |
|
paul |
you mean OPAC or librarian interface ? |
| 12:43 |
|
Flash |
librarian. |
| 12:43 |
|
paul |
because in librarian interface you MUST be auth to login |
| 12:43 |
|
paul |
sometihng I don't understand here... |
| 12:43 |
|
Flash |
? |
| 12:44 |
|
paul |
which version of Koha do you use ? |
| 12:44 |
|
paul |
2.2.5 ? |
| 12:44 |
|
Flash |
Yes. |
| 12:44 |
|
paul |
if you did nothing specific, then you must identify yourself to be able to login into librarian interface. |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
otherwise, you should just get a login screen. |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
what error do you get exactly ? |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
an apache error ? |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
what appears in your log ? |
| 12:46 |
|
Flash |
It looks like Koha acknowleged that I was authenticated via LDAP, because I was able to get in and the "Logged in as:" showes my username. |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
mmm... |
| 12:46 |
|
Flash |
Koha does not display a login page |
| 12:47 |
|
paul |
what says Koha >> parameter >> sytempreferences >> admin >> insecure ? |
| 12:47 |
|
paul |
(should say "yes", or i don't understand your problem !) |
| 12:48 |
|
Flash |
If I use LDAP auth, I am not able to see the Parameters page. |
| 12:48 |
|
Flash |
It's just blank. |
| 12:48 |
|
Flash |
If I turn off LDAP auth, I get a login page. |
| 12:49 |
|
Flash |
If I login as kohaadmin I get everything. |
| 12:49 |
|
paul |
strange behaviour... I don't know where it can come from... |
| 12:50 |
|
paul |
auth is done in C4/Auth.pm package, sub chechauth |
| 12:51 |
|
paul |
and it has nothing to do with apache ldap auth... |
| 12:51 |
|
paul |
hello owen & good morning. |
| 12:51 |
|
owen |
Hi |
| 12:51 |
|
Flash |
Is there info on how to do LDAP auth in Koha? |
| 12:52 |
|
paul |
C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm |
| 12:52 |
|
paul |
(modify it to fit your needs & rename it to Auth.pm |
| 12:52 |
|
paul |
) |
| 12:53 |
|
paul |
you may need some perl package |
| 12:54 |
|
Flash |
I'll take a look at it and see what needs to be done. |
| 12:56 |
|
paul |
ok. Just note it's 5PM for me in France, and i wont be here until friday. |
| 12:57 |
|
Flash |
Thanks for your help. |
| 12:57 |
|
paul |
(and you won't probably find some help from someone else on this subject here) |
| 12:57 |
|
Flash |
Not a common issue? |
| 12:57 |
|
paul |
ldap is not a common feature. |
| 12:57 |
|
paul |
I know only 3 libraries using it |
| 12:58 |
|
paul |
(none in the US, unless joshua tells something else) |
| 12:58 |
|
paul |
(if needed) |
| 12:58 |
|
Flash |
I found the code and am changing it now. |
| 13:05 |
|
Flash |
I changed the code, restarted the server and still have the problem. |
| 13:05 |
|
paul |
mmm... what looks strange to me is that koha does nothing with ldap_apache |
| 13:06 |
|
paul |
thus I bet it's a apache problem more than a koha one. |
| 13:06 |
|
Flash |
Do you have time for me to explain in more detail? |
| 13:07 |
|
Flash |
If not, I can wait until Friday or next week. |
| 13:07 |
|
paul |
koha ldap check auth from ldap, creates a koha login (in borrowers sql table) if needed, and give permissions according to Koha specific permissions |
| 13:08 |
|
paul |
thus the ldap is used only to Authentify users, not to set their rights. |
| 13:08 |
|
Flash |
Exactly. I believe that is what is going on. |
| 13:09 |
|
Flash |
But the rights are not being set. |
| 13:09 |
|
paul |
let me know the "error" you get. |
| 13:09 |
|
paul |
(if you login with the mysql login/password, it's hardcoded : you can do everything) |
| 13:09 |
|
paul |
it should be used only at the 1st login, to create a "true" borrower, with all librarian permissions. |
| 13:09 |
|
Flash |
I can't login with the mysql login/password because it's not in my LDAP. |
| 13:10 |
|
Flash |
LDAP auth comes first. |
| 13:10 |
|
paul |
yes, but what i'm missing is why you don't get the login screen. |
| 13:11 |
|
paul |
you're enabled by Apache, but NOT by Koha. |
| 13:11 |
|
Flash |
When I go to my server (port 8080) I am prompted by the browser for username and password. |
| 13:11 |
|
paul |
you should get a koha login screen |
| 13:11 |
|
Flash |
If I enter my LDAP info I am taken to /cgi-bin/koha/mainpage.pl |
| 13:11 |
|
Flash |
No login page. |
| 13:13 |
|
Flash |
If I select Acquisitions I get a 500 error (Premature end of script headers: acqui-home.pl) |
| 13:13 |
|
paul |
nothing more explicit ? |
| 13:13 |
|
Flash |
Catalogue works fine. |
| 13:13 |
|
paul |
and if you select something else ? |
| 13:13 |
|
paul |
mmm... |
| 13:14 |
|
paul |
I Sendmail perl package is missing. |
| 13:14 |
|
Flash |
Parameters doesn't give an error, it is just blank. |
| 13:14 |
|
paul |
maybe Sendmail... |
| 13:14 |
|
Flash |
Send mail is not setup on teh server yet. |
| 13:15 |
|
paul |
that's it : sendmail perl package is mandatory for acquisition. |
| 13:16 |
|
paul |
(as you may have suggestion=ON, and thus mail sent automatically) |
| 13:16 |
|
Flash |
But it wokrs if I login as kohaadmin and turn off LDAP auth. |
| 13:16 |
|
paul |
mmm... very strange, you're right, it may not be sendmail.pm missing. |
| 13:17 |
|
kados |
note that Mail::Sendmail will work with any mail server |
| 13:18 |
|
kados |
ie, exim, postfix, etc. |
| 13:18 |
|
kados |
paul: do you have contact info for pate? |
| 13:18 |
|
paul |
nope. |
| 13:19 |
|
paul |
why ? he disappeared from the web ? |
| 13:19 |
|
paul |
(eylerfamily.org is down?) |
| 13:19 |
|
kados |
last I checked |
| 13:19 |
|
paul |
you're right |
| 13:20 |
|
paul |
(who is @pate_lurk ?) |
| 13:20 |
|
kados |
is he on? |
| 13:20 |
|
kados |
huh |
| 13:20 |
|
kados |
guess so |
| 13:20 |
|
kados |
pate-lurk: you around? |
| 13:21 |
|
paul |
right. Seems to be alway here. |
| 13:21 |
|
paul |
(probably a bot) |
| 13:21 |
|
Flash |
Paul, I can give you access to our librarian interface if you need to. |
| 13:22 |
|
Flash |
see what is happening. |
| 13:22 |
|
paul |
would be useless probably, I would just see what you describe :-( |
| 13:22 |
|
paul |
(and is clear) |
| 13:22 |
|
Flash |
ok. |
| 13:22 |
|
paul |
my bet is that there is something in apache that I don't understand. |
| 13:22 |
|
paul |
and make koha fail. but what ? |
| 13:23 |
|
kados |
so what's going on Flash? |
| 13:25 |
|
Flash |
I can't believe it's Apache because the LDAP auth is working just fine with other applications. |
| 13:25 |
|
kados |
so what's going on? |
| 13:25 |
|
paul |
I don't mean it's apache the culprit. I just think apache_ldap does something that perl/koha don't understand and support (and i don't know what) |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
so, let's bug hime on the chanel... |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:29 |
|
paul |
everybody beeps pate-lurk !!!!!! = where can you be reach ??? |
| 13:30 |
|
paul |
should be enough, sorry for inconvenience. |
| 13:30 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 13:31 |
|
Flash |
It looks like Koha recognizes that I'm authenticated but is having problems with rights. |
| 13:33 |
|
kados |
Flash: did you set up the permissions for the user? |
| 13:34 |
|
Flash |
Yes, the account is mwflach and it has superlibrarian rights. |
| 13:34 |
|
kados |
try checking all the boxes, not just superlibrarian |
| 13:36 |
|
Flash |
What is interesting is that it allows me to set those flags. |
| 13:36 |
|
Flash |
All set and no change. |
| 13:38 |
|
Flash |
As a basic user, what should I be able to access and what shouldn't I? |
| 13:40 |
|
Flash |
OK, here is something else that is strange. |
| 13:40 |
|
Flash |
If I login with a user that IS in LDAP but NOT in Koha I can still get in and even add members. |
| 13:43 |
|
kados |
me has never used ldap with Koha |
| 13:43 |
|
kados |
so I'm not sure how it differs |
| 13:44 |
|
kados |
I do know that there's a good chance the permissions aren't always set up correctly for every screen |
| 13:44 |
|
kados |
I remember fixing a few of those a while back |
| 13:44 |
|
kados |
I don't think anyone has gone through every module to make sure the permissions are correct |
| 13:49 |
|
Flash |
Why does it let me in if the username is not in Koha? |
| 13:49 |
|
kados |
I thought you had ldap set up |
| 13:50 |
|
Flash |
I do, but the username is not in Koha. |
| 14:03 |
|
kados |
you mean the ldap user? |
| 15:02 |
|
|hdl| |
kados ? |
| 15:05 |
|
kados |
|hdl|: yep, I'm here |
| 15:05 |
|
|hdl| |
So I need your absolution for my absence. |
| 15:06 |
|
|hdl| |
for 3.0 |
| 15:07 |
|
|hdl| |
A first commit tonight for administration panel. |
| 15:07 |
|
|hdl| |
Second commit to come for scripts. |
| 15:09 |
|
kados |
|hdl|: yay! |
| 15:09 |
|
kados |
I absolve you :-) |
| 15:09 |
|
kados |
bbiab |
| 15:10 |
|
|hdl| |
Bon appetit :D |
| 15:35 |
|
thd |
paul: are you still seeking an address for pate-lurk? |
| 16:44 |
|
chris |
morning |
| 16:45 |
|
owen |
Hi chris |
| 16:47 |
|
chris |
heya owen, hows things? |
| 16:48 |
|
owen |
Pretty good. Busybusybusy. |
| 16:48 |
|
chris |
right, know that feeling :) |
| 16:48 |
|
chris |
starting to warm up over there now? |
| 16:50 |
|
owen |
Not much |
| 16:51 |
|
owen |
Probably not really for another month or so...although the winter's been really weird. |
| 16:51 |
|
owen |
Warm and cold and warm and cold. |
| 16:51 |
|
chris |
yeah it was like that when i was over, freezing when i first arrived, then really mild over christmas |
| 16:51 |
|
owen |
Snowed this morning, supposed to be in the 50's (F) tomorrow. |
| 16:51 |
|
chris |
weird |
| 16:52 |
|
chris |
ohh spam from mexican hotels |
| 16:52 |
|
chris |
thats a new one |
| 16:55 |
|
paul_True |
hello world ! |
| 16:55 |
|
thd |
paul2: are you still seeking an address for pate-lurk? |
| 16:56 |
|
paul2 |
not me, it was joshua |
| 16:56 |
|
thd |
paul2: I read backwards |
| 16:56 |
|
paul2 |
(he should be here in a few minuts, as we have the monday meeting in 5 min) |
| 16:59 |
|
thd |
paul: what do MARC subfield structure links actually do in the user interface? Do they extend the field/subfield pairs searched from '...' links in the OPAC? |
| 17:00 |
|
chris |
hi paul, hi thd |
| 17:00 |
|
thd |
hello chris |
| 17:01 |
|
paul |
chris : good morning to you |
| 17:02 |
|
paul |
thd : i'm not sure atm, but I think yes |
| 17:04 |
|
thd |
paul: I had presumed that subfield structure links extend the indexes searched from '...' links in the same way that subfield structure see also field/subfield pairs extended the standard fielded search form boxes. I was seeking confirmation or correction of my presumption. |
| 17:05 |
|
thd |
Is there an agenda for today's meeting? |
| 17:06 |
|
paul |
baby requires some water. |
| 17:06 |
|
paul |
back soon |
| 17:07 |
|
paul |
back |
| 17:08 |
|
paul |
you're right thd : the ... search on 2 directions : |
| 17:08 |
|
paul |
* in the biblio catalogue, using standard search (including the see also links) |
| 17:08 |
|
kados |
sorry guys, I had to deal with a catestrophic system crash at NPL that turned out to be just a CPU fan (whew!) |
| 17:08 |
|
paul |
* search in the authority catalogue, using an authority search (to find rejected forms) |
| 17:09 |
|
paul |
no prob kados, you're just 7min late ! |
| 17:09 |
|
kados |
didn't have a change to work up an agendo though :-) |
| 17:09 |
|
kados |
mainly I would like to talk about how things went last week |
| 17:09 |
|
paul |
NPL fan is more important than us, you're right. |
| 17:09 |
|
kados |
with regards to our perl-zoom project |
| 17:10 |
|
kados |
and to mention that I think paul and I found the solution to the utf-8 prob |
| 17:10 |
|
kados |
which I now belive is the system locale |
| 17:10 |
|
richard |
morning |
| 17:10 |
|
kados |
ie, system local needs to be utf-8 |
| 17:10 |
|
kados |
morning richard |
| 17:10 |
|
thd |
paul: I was trying to distinguish between what is labelled as links and labelled as see also, two different subfield constraints for the bibliographic framework. |
| 17:10 |
|
paul |
you tried to set locale to utf8 and it worked ? |
| 17:10 |
|
chris |
last week i got get_record going, which is a handy little subroutine |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
paul: didn't have a chance, but I will try later today |
| 17:11 |
|
paul |
mmm... we should not speak all at ouce... |
| 17:11 |
|
paul |
(once) |
| 17:11 |
|
chris |
true |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
hehe, yea |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
ok ... so first things first |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
perl-zoom |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
chris: you have the floor |
| 17:11 |
|
chris |
ok, get_record currently takes a biblionumber, and fetches the record from zebra |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
for the detail screen on the OPAC? |
| 17:12 |
|
chris |
could be |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
(for anything I guess :-)) |
| 17:12 |
|
chris |
or the detail on the marc-detail |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
right |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
hey walter |
| 17:12 |
|
chris |
im going to extend it to take a barcode also |
| 17:13 |
|
mcginniwa |
howdy |
| 17:13 |
|
kados |
chris: a barcode? |
| 17:13 |
|
chris |
yeah so we can use it for circ |
| 17:13 |
|
kados |
hmmm ... but barcodes aren't record-level in Koha |
| 17:13 |
|
paul |
(we could even extend this to itemcallnumber, as they can be unique for some libraries) |
| 17:14 |
|
chris |
given a barcode it hands you back everything it knows about that item |
| 17:14 |
|
kados |
I see |
| 17:14 |
|
chris |
yes, and itemcallnumber could work too |
| 17:14 |
|
kados |
how will it know where the barcode is stored? koha->marc mappings? |
| 17:15 |
|
chris |
yep, something will have to tell it where to look, it could be that |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
any other perl-zoom news? |
| 17:15 |
|
chris |
or we could do it in a .abs file and add an entry in the pqf file |
| 17:15 |
|
paul |
chris ++ |
| 17:15 |
|
kados |
right, that'd be cool |
| 17:15 |
|
thd |
chris: an extendable option to take other standard numbers for all copies with a standard number such as ISBN would be useful everywhere barcode might be used. |
| 17:16 |
|
chris |
you could/can just use the search routine in Search.pm with isbns |
| 17:16 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 17:16 |
|
chris |
get_record should only ever return one result |
| 17:16 |
|
thd |
chris: I mean for admin |
| 17:17 |
|
kados |
I have some news ... |
| 17:17 |
|
kados |
with chris's help I made some commits to Biblio.pm and Context.pm |
| 17:17 |
|
kados |
as well as bulkmarcimport.pl |
| 17:17 |
|
kados |
there is now a Context for the Zconn |
| 17:18 |
|
kados |
so from within a module you can go: |
| 17:18 |
|
kados |
$Zconn = C4::Context->Zconn |
| 17:18 |
|
kados |
it will check if there is an existing connection |
| 17:18 |
|
kados |
and if not, create a new one, check it, and hand it back |
| 17:19 |
|
kados |
Biblio.pm and SearchMarc.pm (and Search.pm) have been converted to this new method |
| 17:19 |
|
chris |
i have koha head running under mod_perl and this seems to be working great |
| 17:19 |
|
kados |
excelletn |
| 17:19 |
|
chris |
(the context) |
| 17:19 |
|
chris |
its not making new connects |
| 17:19 |
|
kados |
I also modified bulkmarcimport to allow specification of 'number' of records to import |
| 17:19 |
|
kados |
as well as 'number of records before a comit operation' |
| 17:20 |
|
thd |
kados: was that not an existing option? |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
thd: (not in head) |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
it defaults to 50, but I"ve tried it with 1000 and it works nicely |
| 17:20 |
|
kados |
I guess I should also mention I committed 'shadow registers' in usmarc's zebra.cfg |
| 17:20 |
|
chris |
do you get a speed increase? |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
paul: you may want to check that option out |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
I didn't time it, but I will |
| 17:21 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 17:21 |
|
thd |
kados: I assume the default will be all records in the file when finished. |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
this server crash pretty much tore my day apart :-) |
| 17:21 |
|
kados |
thd: why? |
| 17:21 |
|
chris |
they will do that :-) |
| 17:22 |
|
thd |
kados: that is current behaviour in rel_2_2 |
| 17:22 |
|
kados |
I also have a bit of news about rel_2_2 |
| 17:22 |
|
kados |
specifically the MARC editor |
| 17:22 |
|
kados |
I fixed a bug where there was a hardcoded value for the first subfield in a repeated tag |
| 17:23 |
|
kados |
hey tim |
| 17:23 |
|
tim |
hey kados |
| 17:23 |
|
kados |
chris and I also hacked on the bug where blank subfields are saved in the MARC editor |
| 17:24 |
|
kados |
and chris thinks he may have solved that one ... so kudos to chris there |
| 17:24 |
|
chris |
maybe |
| 17:24 |
|
chris |
i could have just made it worse |
| 17:24 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 17:24 |
|
kados |
I'll test it this afternoon as soon as I get back to my office |
| 17:24 |
|
chris |
we'll have to test and see |
| 17:24 |
|
chris |
tim: i hear congratulations are in order :) |
| 17:25 |
|
kados |
yep, suppose we should announce also that Tim's library, the West Liberty Public Library went live with Koha today |
| 17:26 |
|
thd |
congratulations tim |
| 17:26 |
|
russ |
woo congrats tim |
| 17:26 |
|
thd |
I have made some discoveries while preparing a comprehensive MARC 21 bibliographic framework. |
| 17:26 |
|
mcginniwa |
cool |
| 17:27 |
|
paul |
about the hardcoded value & blank subfield : i'll have a close look. |
| 17:28 |
|
kados |
yep, WLPL is actually the second public library in the US to switch to Koha |
| 17:28 |
|
kados |
paul: great ... |
| 17:28 |
|
paul |
how large is it ? |
| 17:29 |
|
amanda |
hello |
| 17:29 |
|
kados |
paul: about 20,000 records |
| 17:29 |
|
amanda |
thought I would join in on your weekly meetings and just listen in |
| 17:30 |
|
thd |
welcome amanda |
| 17:30 |
|
paul |
of course you can, amanda |
| 17:30 |
|
thd |
I have been documenting common field uses outside the strict prescribed MARC 21 standard. |
| 17:30 |
|
paul |
welcome here |
| 17:30 |
|
amanda |
thank you everyone |
| 17:32 |
|
chris |
ok, any other news from last week? |
| 17:32 |
|
thd |
As everyone already knew, many local use fields are used by large established groups so that what is actually available for non-interfering local use is a subset of local use fields. |
| 17:32 |
|
kados |
thd: how's the new MARC framework coming? |
| 17:33 |
|
paul |
I have some news too. |
| 17:33 |
|
kados |
go ahead paul |
| 17:33 |
|
thd |
kados: I am most of the way through but I explain one problem now. |
| 17:33 |
|
paul |
OK |
| 17:33 |
|
paul |
The 1st news concern ppl |
| 17:34 |
|
paul |
* Pierrick, the new ineo guy that will work on Koha, begins on wednesday. I'll meet him un thursday at Ineo in Paris |
| 17:34 |
|
kados |
nice |
| 17:34 |
|
paul |
* We can count on Antoine between march, 20 up to May 20. He will work on a new XUL MARC editor. |
| 17:35 |
|
paul |
(100% sure except if it's school refuses. But no reason to occur) |
| 17:35 |
|
kados |
woohoo! |
| 17:35 |
|
chris |
excellent news |
| 17:35 |
|
chris |
about both people |
| 17:35 |
|
paul |
+ he should work with me 1 or 2 months during our summer |
| 17:35 |
|
paul |
(july/August, maybe september) |
| 17:36 |
|
paul |
yes chris ? |
| 17:36 |
|
chris |
sorry paul, i meant excellent news about both of them |
| 17:36 |
|
paul |
ok. |
| 17:36 |
|
chris |
(hit return to soon :-)) |
| 17:36 |
|
kados |
great news paul |
| 17:37 |
|
paul |
A news i've submitted to koha-devel already : I have some code from Tümer |
| 17:37 |
|
paul |
that i'll include ASAP in HEAD : |
| 17:37 |
|
paul |
* holiday management |
| 17:37 |
|
kados |
yes, saw that ... very exciting ! |
| 17:37 |
|
paul |
* basic news management on OPAC. |
| 17:37 |
|
thd |
paul: does Antoine not want to devote his life to Koha? :) |
| 17:37 |
|
chris |
yay for holiday management |
| 17:37 |
|
paul |
maybe he will. but he's still a student for at least 1 year after this one. |
| 17:38 |
|
paul |
but very very interested by Open Source. |
| 17:38 |
|
kados |
very cool |
| 17:38 |
|
paul |
so, if my business still grows, I may send him a proposal in a year or 2 ;-) |
| 17:38 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 17:38 |
|
paul |
about holiday management : it relies probably on Date::Manip, so i'll have to clean many things. |
| 17:38 |
|
paul |
last note about Tümer code : |
| 17:39 |
|
paul |
I thanked him for a new Inventory script. |
| 17:39 |
|
chris |
ah yes, i used that message to answer someone on the koha list |
| 17:39 |
|
paul |
... but hdl remind me I asked him to write such a script, and it's already in rel_2_2 |
| 17:39 |
|
paul |
it will be in 2.2.6 |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
wooo |
| 17:40 |
|
thd |
paul: What is different about the new script? |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
could you follow up my email then paul, and say that |
| 17:40 |
|
paul |
??? |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
i was answering marie wardall |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
i think i told her it will be in 3.0 |
| 17:40 |
|
paul |
(on koha mailing list ?) |
| 17:40 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 17:41 |
|
kados |
anyone else have news? |
| 17:41 |
|
chris |
ah no i didnt |
| 17:41 |
|
chris |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/pipe[…]/2006/009735.html |
| 17:41 |
|
chris |
thats what i said |
| 17:41 |
|
paul |
I don't read it carefully, i'll check |
| 17:41 |
|
russ |
paul: we have been making some progress with the serials subscription interface |
| 17:41 |
|
russ |
i have some mock ups |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
chris can you take over for me? |
| 17:42 |
|
chris |
ok, russ, show us your mockups |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
chris: I've got to head out for a bit |
| 17:42 |
|
chris |
ok kados |
| 17:42 |
|
russ |
ack |
| 17:42 |
|
kados |
thx |
| 17:42 |
|
russ |
gallery died on me |
| 17:42 |
|
thd |
paul:How does the new inventory script differ from the old one? |
| 17:42 |
|
russ |
but we have it workin in a dev koha which is better |
| 17:43 |
|
russ |
paul: if you have time after wards i'd like to show you |
| 17:43 |
|
paul |
russ : ok, i'll take some minuts to take a look |
| 17:43 |
|
russ |
basically it is an interface to populate the x y z formula thing |
| 17:44 |
|
russ |
another bit of news, a crew in toronto jigtechnologies have asked if we can add them to the pay for support page on the koha site |
| 17:44 |
|
paul |
thd : the NEW inventory script takes a file, populated by barcodes scanned from a laptop, and mark all of the items as "seen". |
| 17:44 |
|
thd |
very good russ, that was very much needed |
| 17:44 |
|
russ |
they have been working with Koha for a couple of years |
| 17:44 |
|
chris |
has anyone had any contact with them? |
| 17:44 |
|
russ |
Shawn Bedard |
| 17:44 |
|
russ |
and |
| 17:44 |
|
russ |
David Capredoni |
| 17:45 |
|
russ |
been working with Alliance |
| 17:45 |
|
russ |
> Française de Toronto[2;2~ |
| 17:46 |
|
paul |
(I had some contact with AF from Vancouver2 1/2 years ago) |
| 17:46 |
|
paul |
some news from 2.2.6 : |
| 17:46 |
|
paul |
* i've checked the new serialadditems systempref, it works nicely |
| 17:46 |
|
chris |
russ: maybe we could ask for some more info, some urls etc and then decide |
| 17:46 |
|
paul |
you now can ask Koha to create an item on the fly |
| 17:46 |
|
chris |
i dont have any problem in principle |
| 17:47 |
|
chris |
paul: excellent |
| 17:47 |
|
paul |
chris ++ And I think it could be useful to explain who is involved in Koha team, and who just sell services. |
| 17:47 |
|
russ |
ok sorted gallery : http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/ko[…]cription_1?full=1 |
| 17:47 |
|
russ |
there are 3 images |
| 17:47 |
|
russ |
we have the first part of this working in our clients dev koha |
| 17:48 |
|
chris |
paul: good point |
| 17:48 |
|
paul |
russ : wow, very nice. |
| 17:48 |
|
richard |
yes it is a good distinction to have |
| 17:49 |
|
thd |
Did anyone ever contact gokoha.cm ? |
| 17:49 |
|
paul |
(+ I like the 11 issues on a monthly serial) |
| 17:49 |
|
thd |
s/cm/com/ |
| 17:49 |
|
paul |
about 2.2.6 (to end with this topic) : |
| 17:49 |
|
chris |
thd: im not sure |
| 17:50 |
|
chris |
i didnt |
| 17:50 |
|
paul |
* i've checked Amazon.com feature & included it in CSS templates (although this feature is illegal in France) |
| 17:50 |
|
paul |
* I'm checking what hdl added to acquisition (to reciepts) but I think it will be very usefull |
| 17:51 |
|
chris |
cool |
| 17:51 |
|
paul |
recieves should be highly more clear. |
| 17:51 |
|
paul |
Flash just appears in the middle of a developper meeting ;-) |
| 17:51 |
|
chris |
more clear is good |
| 17:51 |
|
thd |
paul: why is it illegal if there is a similar web services form Amazon.fr? |
| 17:52 |
|
paul |
that's all about 2.2.6. Nothing to say about HEAD, except what stated previously (Tumer code) |
| 17:52 |
|
paul |
thd : i'm not sure amazon.fr has the similar web service. |
| 17:52 |
|
paul |
even if it has, it's illegal in France. Let me explain our law |
| 17:52 |
|
paul |
we don't have the "fair use" concept. |
| 17:53 |
|
thd |
paul: do you merely mean that some types of libraries are not allowed to link to commercial entities? |
| 17:53 |
|
paul |
we just have the "small excerpt for studying purpose" and the "private copy use" |
| 17:53 |
|
paul |
and the cover page from a book is NOT considered as a small excerpt |
| 17:53 |
|
paul |
but as a major part of the book. |
| 17:54 |
|
thd |
paul: Amazon does not provide that from fair use. |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
interesting |
| 17:54 |
|
paul |
thus, it's considered as a copy to show the image in a public webservice |
| 17:54 |
|
paul |
you have to ask the editor for permission. |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
yea, I don't think amazon provides it as fair use |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
it's a service provided specifically for linking back to their site |
| 17:54 |
|
thd |
paul: Amazon has been granted most cover images under license from the publisher. |
| 17:54 |
|
kados |
ie, if you use their image, you must link back to Amazon.com somewhere |
| 17:55 |
|
paul |
kados : where, from amazon.com can you get info to ask for Amazonservice ? |
| 17:55 |
|
kados |
which is good for us since we like the 'read inside' |
| 17:55 |
|
paul |
I could search in amazon.fr and ask them. |
| 17:55 |
|
kados |
paul: I contacted amazon directly to ask if my use of their web serivces was ok |
| 17:55 |
|
kados |
and they said it was exactly what they created web services for |
| 17:56 |
|
paul |
how : mail address ? phone call ? |
| 17:56 |
|
kados |
I wrote via email |
| 17:56 |
|
paul |
how did you find the email address ? |
| 17:56 |
|
thd |
paul: Publishers are often now giving away cover images of new books in ONYX files. |
| 17:56 |
|
kados |
paul: hang on ... I'll see if I can find it |
| 17:57 |
|
thd |
paul: along with tables of contents |
| 17:57 |
|
paul |
gotcha : http://partenaires.amazon.fr/g[…]ef=amb%5Flink%5F6 |
| 17:58 |
|
chris |
so thats 2.2.x finished .. anything more about 3.0 ? |
| 17:58 |
|
thd |
paul: Other companies also license image and contents content for which they charge a fee. |
| 17:58 |
|
thd |
yes |
| 17:59 |
|
thd |
As everyone already knew, many local use fields are used by large established groups so that what is actually available for non-interfering local use is a subset of local use fields. |
| 17:59 |
|
kados |
thd: right |
| 17:59 |
|
paul |
do you remind this login script : |
| 17:59 |
|
paul |
https://partenaires.amazon.fr/[…]2-6434233-5948112 |
| 17:59 |
|
chris |
k thd |
| 17:59 |
|
kados |
paul: ? |
| 17:59 |
|
paul |
(it's the page to register) |
| 18:00 |
|
thd |
koha wants to be in as many libraries as possible without interfering with reserved uses of fields. |
| 18:00 |
|
kados |
paul: (I had to register to get a developer's key as well as an associates' key) |
| 18:00 |
|
thd |
090 is reserved for local copy information in RLIN |
| 18:01 |
|
kados |
thd: (but it was a while ago, so I don't remember the whole process) |
| 18:01 |
|
kados |
thd: using 001 as the link to biblio.biblionumber seems to work just fine |
| 18:01 |
|
thd |
paul: registration is free and automatic |
| 18:01 |
|
chris |
what is RLIN ? |
| 18:02 |
|
kados |
thd: so I propose 001 be the default in 3.0 |
| 18:02 |
|
thd |
RLIN is the second largest library network in the world |
| 18:02 |
|
chris |
what the R stand for? |
| 18:02 |
|
paul |
kados : the registration want you to fill the name of the personn that will recieve payements when you earn money through amazon partnership ? |
| 18:03 |
|
kados |
paul: correct, it should be the library who you are signing up |
| 18:03 |
|
thd |
kados: 090 holds more than merely the record identifier in Koha |
| 18:03 |
|
kados |
it does? |
| 18:03 |
|
kados |
paul: (or for testing, you can use yourself) |
| 18:04 |
|
kados |
thd: do you happen to know if unimarc non-filing characters are the same as marc21? |
| 18:04 |
|
thd |
chris: I have never fathomed that abbreviation except that R is for research. RLIN is from the Research Libraries Group. |
| 18:05 |
|
chris |
thanks thd |
| 18:05 |
|
kados |
thd: ie, held in the same indicator |
| 18:05 |
|
thd |
kados: I do not remember how UNIMARC treats that but it is similar at least. |
| 18:05 |
|
kados |
cause that's the other big news for 2.2 I forgot to mention |
| 18:06 |
|
kados |
I committed MARC non-filing characters support |
| 18:06 |
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thd |
horaay |
| 18:07 |
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paul |
kados : I confirm what thd says. |
| 18:07 |
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paul |
I think it should work fine for unimarc as well |
| 18:07 |
|
kados |
great!@ |
| 18:07 |
|
paul |
(although it's really a dirty hack from a perf pov) |
| 18:07 |
|
kados |
(yes, quite bad) |
| 18:07 |
|
kados |
I really must go |
| 18:07 |
|
chris |
ok i think we are pretty much done now anyway |
| 18:07 |
|
paul |
ok, so I'll leave to |
| 18:07 |
|
paul |
to go to bed. |
| 18:08 |
|
chris |
thanks for being here everyone |
| 18:08 |
|
paul |
because I wake up at 4AM (6 hours) |
| 18:08 |
|
thd |
I suggest that we consider moving 090 even in 2.2.X if nothing for 090 is hardcoded. |
| 18:08 |
|
chris |
lets hope this week is as productive as last week |
| 18:08 |
|
thd |
paul: stay a moment |
| 18:08 |
|
russ |
paul i'll send you an email |
| 18:08 |
|
russ |
sounds like you need to get some sleep |
| 18:08 |
|
thd |
paul: is there 090 harcoding? |
| 18:09 |
|
paul |
not at all. |
| 18:09 |
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paul |
I have some libraries with biblionumber in 001 ! |
| 18:09 |
|
paul |
090 was choosen "randomly" |
| 18:09 |
|
thd |
paul: Do you have objections to moving 090 to a less interfering place? |
| 18:09 |
|
paul |
none. |
| 18:10 |
|
paul |
it's just a set up. |
| 18:10 |
|
paul |
I won't change my libraries using 090 |
| 18:10 |
|
Flash |
All, can I but in and ask an LDAP question? |
| 18:10 |
|
paul |
but I won't tell you that you must use it mandatory ! |
| 18:10 |
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thd |
paul: I was actually proposing to change existing libraries |
| 18:10 |
|
paul |
why ? |
| 18:11 |
|
paul |
Flash : you can ask, but not sure you'll get an answer ! |
| 18:11 |
|
paul |
(because I really want to go to bed. It's 10PM in France) |
| 18:11 |
|
chris |
you might have better luck asking on the koha-devel or the main koha mailing list flash |
| 18:12 |
|
chris |
lots more people will see the question that way :) |
| 18:12 |
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thd |
pual: Merel;y so my comprehensive MARC 21 bibliographic framework could document the popular RLIN use of 090. |
| 18:12 |
|
paul |
chris ++ |
| 18:13 |
|
Flash |
Thanks. Is there a FAQ for LDAP? |
| 18:13 |
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paul |
what you're suggesting is to have a DEFAULT marc21 framework that uses 001 instead of 90 |
| 18:13 |
|
Flash |
Or a setup doc? |
| 18:13 |
|
paul |
Flash : i'm afraid not. only Auth_with_ldap.pm |
| 18:13 |
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chris |
not that i know of, you can have a hunt around ta http://www.kohadocs.org |
| 18:13 |
|
Flash |
That's what I'm using now. |
| 18:14 |
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thd |
paul: no merely to move it to 099 or somewhere that is not in popular use. |
| 18:14 |
|
paul |
+ some discussions once on koha of koha-devel |
| 18:14 |
|
paul |
no problem to me. and that don't require french libraries to change anything ! |
| 18:14 |
|
Flash |
Thanks Paul. |
| 18:14 |
|
paul |
(even for future one) |
| 18:15 |
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thd |
paul: I intend to ask widely about what the safe local use fields are and document the popular uses of local use fields. |
| 18:16 |
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paul |
no problem, afai see |
| 18:16 |
|
paul |
ok, guys, unless someone has something to add, I go to bed. |
| 18:17 |
|
paul |
you have 10 secs ! |
| 18:17 |
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thd |
paul: Toward that end, I would appreciate any documentation that you can obtain for SUDOC holdings, and any other local use field uses that you can find even if they really only apply to UNIMARC. |
| 18:17 |
|
paul |
ok, i'll try to find some. drop me a mail (to avoid that i forget) |
| 18:17 |
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thd |
paul: ask the INEO people if you would please |
| 18:19 |
|
thd |
thanks paul |
| 18:24 |
|
thd |
chris is the meeting now adjourned? |
| 18:24 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 18:24 |
|
chris |
its time for lamingtons and tea |
| 18:25 |
|
russ |
hmm lamingtons |
| 18:25 |
|
thd |
what are lamintons? |
| 18:25 |
|
thd |
s/lamintons/lamingtons/ |
| 18:26 |
|
owen |
"A chocolate coated cube of sponge cake, rolled in desiccated coconut; usually served with whipped cream and afternoon tea." |
| 18:26 |
|
russ |
a type of sponge cake |
| 18:26 |
|
owen |
? |
| 18:26 |
|
russ |
bang on owen |
| 18:26 |
|
owen |
http://www.inmamaskitchen.com/[…]sfoodarticle.html |
| 18:26 |
|
russ |
normally come in two flavours brown and red |
| 18:26 |
|
russ |
where brown is supposdly chocolate |
| 18:27 |
|
russ |
and red is supposedly a berry fruit of some kind |
| 18:27 |
|
thd |
russ: make mine berry fruit please |
| 18:28 |
|
thd |
russ: I never understood the great attraction of chocolate |
| 18:28 |
|
chris |
its not really chocolate .. its ummm brown flavour |
| 18:29 |
|
chris |
tastes good though:) |
| 18:30 |
|
thd |
I prefer the brown flavour of bread to the brown flavour of chocolate |
| 18:31 |
|
thd |
I shall imagine my preferred brown flavour :) |
| 18:43 |
|
kados |
sorry I had to jet |
| 18:44 |
|
kados |
bunch of busy work at NPL to do |
| 18:49 |
|
mcginniwa |
ciao |
| 18:49 |
|
mcginniwa |
i'm off too |
| 18:50 |
|
owen |
wb kados. Since you left we mostly talked about dessert. |
| 18:51 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 18:52 |
|
owen |
They've heard about those softies over at Liblime |
| 18:53 |
|
kados |
I must get at least one of these every week |
| 18:53 |
|
kados |
"I have contacted some services that sell their software and they stated they give a 50% discount to churches." |
| 18:53 |
|
kados |
my reply should be something like: |
| 18:54 |
|
kados |
"actually, we charge churches 50% more" :-) |
| 21:34 |
|
kados |
thd: you around? |
| 21:37 |
|
Jo |
Russ: you about? |
| 21:48 |
|
richard |
jo: i think he is in a meeting in town |
| 23:07 |
|
kados |
with perl-zoom |
| 23:26 |
|
Jo |
Russ: are you back yet |
| 02:54 |
|
russ2 |
rosa? |
| 04:57 |
|
osmoze |
hello |
| 04:58 |
|
chris |
hi osmoze |
| 06:28 |
|
osmoze |
there is anybody for helping on apache2 conf and virtualHost ? |
| 06:37 |
|
osmoze |
i ve 3 virtual host. When i start with a2enssite one, it's ok, but when i try the second, there is only end always the first that response |
| 06:37 |
|
osmoze |
an idea ? |
| 06:45 |
|
chris |
do you have a NameVirtualHost line? |
| 06:46 |
|
chris |
eg |
| 06:46 |
|
chris |
NameVirtualHost opac.something |
| 06:46 |
|
chris |
<VirtualHost opac.something> |
| 06:46 |
|
chris |
... |
| 06:46 |
|
chris |
</VirtualHost> |
| 06:47 |
|
chris |
<VirtualHost koha.something> |
| 06:47 |
|
chris |
... |
| 06:47 |
|
chris |
</VirtualHost> |
| 06:50 |
|
osmoze |
NamevirtualHost for each site ? |
| 06:50 |
|
chris |
just one NameVirtualHost should do it |
| 06:51 |
|
osmoze |
ok, i rewrite my conf ^^ |
| 06:59 |
|
osmoze |
chris : i have this probleme when apache2 -t : |
| 07:00 |
|
osmoze |
VirtualHost intra.koha.homelinux.org:0 overlaps with VirtualHost php.koha.homelinux.org:0, the first has precedence, perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive |
| 07:00 |
|
chris |
there we go |
| 07:00 |
|
osmoze |
my namevitualhost is koha.homelinux.org (opac) |
| 07:00 |
|
chris |
try NameVirtualHost php.koha.homelinux.org |
| 07:01 |
|
chris |
(you can have both) |
| 07:07 |
|
osmoze |
ok, it's ok for apache2 -t but it's the same probleme for response |
| 07:08 |
|
chris |
hmm, darn |
| 07:29 |
|
osmoze |
yes, it's ok for me |
| 07:29 |
|
osmoze |
chris, i solved, it's NameVirtualHost |
| 07:29 |
|
osmoze |
* |
| 07:29 |
|
osmoze |
NameVirtualHost * |
| 07:29 |
|
osmoze |
and VirtualHost * |
| 07:30 |
|
osmoze |
and a good servername and it work |
| 07:30 |
|
osmoze |
many thanks |
| 09:52 |
|
osmoze |
|hdl|> t es par la ? |
| 10:40 |
|
|hdl| |
osmoze : oui |
| 10:44 |
|
kados |
hi all |
| 10:44 |
|
kados |
paul is in Pari today no? :-) |
