| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:31 |
|
thd |
owen: Had you found how to assign a damaged item to itemtype 'damaged too fragile to circulate' or something similar that you and kados seemed to be concerned with last week? |
| 12:32 |
|
owen |
It's not something I've been working on |
| 12:32 |
|
thd |
owen: Do you remeber the questions kados had asked you about that? |
| 12:33 |
|
owen |
not offhand |
| 12:36 |
|
thd |
owen: ooh, maybe its importance had seemed especially minor even to him and he initiated the query. I have missed him on IRC when I was asking. |
| 12:48 |
|
thd |
kados: ping |
| 15:24 |
|
dan |
hi there everyone, I just installed koha but for some reason z39.50 doesnt work, and I get an error about mysql syntax and Breeding.pm |
| 15:25 |
|
dan |
does anyone know what that might be? |
| 15:35 |
|
thd |
dan: what operating system did you install koha on? |
| 15:35 |
|
dan |
debian sarge linux |
| 15:36 |
|
thd |
dan: did you launch the z39.50 daemon? |
| 15:36 |
|
dan |
yeah |
| 15:38 |
|
thd |
dan: have you configured some reliable z39.50 server targets with the correct information? |
| 15:39 |
|
dan |
actually i think i just fixed it... i had the loc server set up to unimarc |
| 15:39 |
|
dan |
thanks for the help :-) |
| 15:40 |
|
dan |
kudos on the software y'all. |
| 19:27 |
|
thd |
Genji: are you there? |
| 19:39 |
|
dan |
hi everyone. I installed koha today, and have been adding books using z3950, but after a while it lags and stops working. I find w/ ps that there are a bunch of forked (i think) processz3950que processes and if i restart the daemon it works again |
| 19:39 |
|
dan |
I think maybe I'm not using it right? |
| 19:39 |
|
dan |
also the window allways says "still 3 requests to go" or else "still ?? requests to go" |
| 19:40 |
|
dan |
any idea what i'm doing wrong? |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
hi dan |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
it might not be you |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
its not a particularly robust piece of software (the z3950 part of koha) |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
in theory, it should fork a request for each server, these should then die when the results are returned |
| 19:45 |
|
chris |
its a good idea in theory, having a daemon that does the z3950 requests |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
since they can take a long time to return, it gets around timeout problems |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
but it needs some work to make it a bit more solid |
| 19:46 |
|
dan |
so, basically, some of the servers i have listed are not returning in a timely manner and the processes are getting hung? |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
that would be my guess |
| 19:47 |
|
dan |
okay... so i'll try removing some servers |
| 19:47 |
|
dan |
i've noticed that it happens more often when i try entering books that most servers don't have any info on |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
that makes sense |
| 19:47 |
|
chris |
what it tries to do is get a certain number of results |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
and will keep trying servers until it does (or runs out of servers to try) |
| 19:48 |
|
dan |
okay... so that's what the "still 3 requests to go" thing means |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
i think thats 3 servers left to query ... or 3 searches left to go |
| 19:49 |
|
dan |
okay... i got it |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
i cant remember which :) |
| 19:49 |
|
dan |
you're able to do more than one search at a time? |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
i dont think so, so its more likely 3 servers left to query |
| 19:50 |
|
dan |
okay |
| 19:50 |
|
dan |
cool |
| 19:50 |
|
dan |
well, thanks for the help, it makes a lot more sense now |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
for the next major version of koha, we have a couple of options |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
one of which is to take an existing free software z3950 client |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
and get koha to be able to use it |
| 19:51 |
|
dan |
I'm trying to get this thing to the point where volunteers at this community center can use it effectively... so it has to run smoothly :) |
| 19:51 |
|
dan |
oh, that'd be cool |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
otherwise, we will refactor and try make it a bit tighter |
| 19:51 |
|
dan |
i like how the z3950 thing works in theory... |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
in practice its a bit flakey |
| 19:52 |
|
dan |
especially how it's distributed so people can share their database |
| 19:52 |
|
dan |
like w/ the z3950 server in the package |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:52 |
|
chris |
that will be much better in the next major version too |
| 19:52 |
|
dan |
especially since the place i'm at has a lot of stuff most places dont |
| 19:53 |
|
chris |
we already know how to integrate a much better z3950 server |
| 19:53 |
|
dan |
cool |
| 19:53 |
|
dan |
I'm pretty excited about this software, I think it's going to work well for us |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
excellent |
| 19:54 |
|
dan |
once we get a barcode scanner anyway :) |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
when you are up and running drop us a note, and we'll add you to the koha users map :) |
| 19:54 |
|
dan |
okay, that sounds good |
| 19:54 |
|
dan |
i'm going to get back at this now, thanks a lot |
| 19:55 |
|
dan |
oh, i meant to ask, when's the next major release looking like it might come out? |
| 19:56 |
|
thd |
:-) |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
theres going to be a 2.2.4 bugfix release out in the nearish future |
| 19:56 |
|
dan |
cool |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
but 2.4/3.0 (we havent decided on the number yet, i think it will be 3.0 lots of changes) will be early 2006 |
| 19:57 |
|
dan |
sweet, i'll definately look forward to it |
| 19:57 |
|
dan |
one feature that I can already tell might be usefull would be something where you coul list a bunch if isbn's someplace and resolve all of them at one time |
| 19:57 |
|
dan |
or something like that |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
right |
| 19:58 |
|
dan |
it takes a long time to enter all these books :) |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
heres a trick |
| 19:58 |
|
chris |
you can use the bulkmarcimport.pl script to load a big bunch of marc records into the reservior |
| 19:59 |
|
chris |
and then when you go to add a new book, it searches the reservior and if it matches a title, you can prefill the form with the data |
| 20:00 |
|
dan |
oh, okay, i'll try that out |
| 20:00 |
|
thd |
chris: which is the better z39.50 server [did you mean client] that you already know how to integrate? |
| 20:00 |
|
chris |
i meant server |
| 20:00 |
|
chris |
zebra, from indexdata |
| 20:01 |
|
thd |
the daemon acts as a client |
| 20:01 |
|
chris |
i know |
| 20:01 |
|
chris |
i was talking about 2 different thing |
| 20:01 |
|
chris |
s |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
<dan> like w/ the z3950 server in the package |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
> we already know how to integrate a much better z3950 server |
| 20:02 |
|
chris |
koha has a z3950 server as well as the client, but neither of them are what you'd call rocksolid |
| 20:03 |
|
thd |
chris: what do you know about better client integration? |
| 20:03 |
|
chris |
no one has really looked into it |
| 20:05 |
|
thd |
there was a reply for Index Data on koha-zebra to a message that I had forwarded where I had added a note about Event module problems. |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
dan: sorry i put you slightly wrong |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
bulkmarcimport.pl will load straight into your catalog |
| 20:05 |
|
chris |
/cgi-bin/koha/import/breeding.pl will import into the reservior |
| 20:06 |
|
chris |
bulkmarcimport.pl you need to run from the commandline |
| 20:06 |
|
chris |
ok, i gotta get back to my paid job |
| 20:06 |
|
chris |
cyas later |
| 20:07 |
|
dan |
thanks |
| 20:09 |
|
Genji |
hiya all |
| 20:10 |
|
thd |
chris: Sebastian form Index Data recommended the Yaz/Zoom API. |
| 20:11 |
|
thd |
Genji: hello |
| 20:13 |
|
thd |
Genji: http://www.librarystuff.net/20[…]library-opac.html |
| 20:18 |
|
thd |
Genji: The link above is to a blog posting about a library near you. Much nearer you than me, certainly. North Shore Libraries in New Zealand. Mike Copley, Assistant Librarian and Web Developer has a graphical map linked to OPAC results showing book location as a red mark. Perhaps you would be interested to enquire with him about how he implemented that. |
| 20:24 |
|
thd |
Genji: I could not find the link previously, after I confused it with something I had read about extending an Innovative Interfaces ILS. |
| 20:39 |
|
thd |
chris, rach: Where would I find the template set that provides access to the page for assigning items to biblioitems? |
| 20:42 |
|
thd |
chirs, rach: You had posted that the current default and NPL templates were broken for that. |
| 21:40 |
|
rach |
um chris gave you the URL to hack the other day |
| 21:41 |
|
rach |
thd - http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/album26 |
| 21:41 |
|
rach |
that shows how it's supposed to work (well where) |
| 21:42 |
|
rach |
and its the edit button on the more detail page for group that is broken in the templates |
| 21:44 |
|
rach |
hmm - http://koha.eeo.katipo.co.nz/ |
| 21:45 |
|
rach |
I'm getting biowhat |
| 21:49 |
|
rach |
erg wrong channel |
| 02:18 |
|
Genji |
hiya rach |
| 02:21 |
|
paul |
hello rach/Genji |
| 02:21 |
|
Genji |
hiya paul. how goes/ |
| 02:22 |
|
paul |
fine, thanks. Nice weather, not too hot for instance ;-) |
| 02:22 |
|
paul |
Just 1 minor bad thing : I saw Ocean 12 yesterday, it's really a bad movie. |
| 02:22 |
|
paul |
Ocean 11 was fun, imho, and Ocean 12 is a non sense |
| 02:23 |
|
paul |
(+ really poorly translated in french) |
| 02:23 |
|
Genji |
hmm... right. saw The Island, today. Really really enjoyed it. |
| 02:23 |
|
paul |
(mmm... bad is not the right word in english. But you understand what I mean) |
| 02:37 |
|
hdl |
hi everybody. |
| 02:38 |
|
paul |
salut henri damien. Bien dormi ? |
| 02:38 |
|
paul |
Noane vous a laissé un peu en paix ? |
| 02:38 |
|
hdl |
révéillé 3 fois. |
| 02:38 |
|
hdl |
Mais elle ne sera pas là de la journée. |
| 02:38 |
|
paul |
c'est un léger progrès non ? |
| 02:39 |
|
hdl |
Oui. Mais j'ai l'impression que ce n'est pas seulement des angoisses mais aussi fonction de ce qu'elle a mangé et de sa digestion. |
| 02:39 |
|
hdl |
Elle aurait des diarrhées nocturnes que cela ne m'étonnerait pas. |
| 02:39 |
|
paul |
ah, là il va falloir creuser, effectivement. |
| 02:40 |
|
hdl |
J'ai juste eu besoin d'être là et de la cajoler un peu. Et elle s'est calmée, la première fois. |
| 02:40 |
|
hdl |
La dernière fois, cétait à 7h... heure du réveil :) |
| 02:41 |
|
paul |
nous, nous avons eu 4H et 6H30 ;-) |
| 02:41 |
|
hdl |
Nous sommes donc unis dans les tribulations de l'enfantement... ;) |
| 02:41 |
|
hdl |
Did you have time to look at my latest commited code and see why it wouldn't work ? |
| 02:42 |
|
hdl |
enfantement à prendre à un sens plus large.... |
| 02:42 |
|
paul |
no mail on koha-cvs, I thought you didn't commit. |
| 02:43 |
|
paul |
why did sf forget to send the mails is a good question... |
| 02:43 |
|
paul |
ok, i update my cvs & look immediatly. |
| 02:43 |
|
paul |
(just sending doc to in2p3 before) |
| 02:43 |
|
paul |
let gnomemeeting ready, i call you when i have suggestions. |
| 02:46 |
|
hdl |
paul : Sorry. My latest commit did not work. |
| 02:51 |
|
hdl |
It was aborted since you comitted a version of updatedatabase before mine. |
| 02:51 |
|
paul |
;-) |
| 02:51 |
|
paul |
(as you seem to have forgotten updatedatabase cleaning that I suggested few weeks ago, i made it myself ;-) ) |
| 02:53 |
|
hdl |
Not forgotten. I thought it was Long term work. |
| 02:53 |
|
paul |
it was not urgent, but better to do it before playing with 3.0 database. |
| 02:53 |
|
paul |
so, in fact, it had to be done asap. |
| 02:54 |
|
paul |
anyway, it has been made, that's what is important ;-) |
| 03:25 |
|
osmoze |
bonjour |
| 03:25 |
|
paul |
'lut |
| 03:28 |
|
osmoze |
paul, je recherche desesperement une 2.0, tu aurais cela ? |
| 03:28 |
|
paul |
il doit toujours y avoir un 2.0.2 sur sourceforge non ? |
| 03:28 |
|
osmoze |
pas trouvé :( |
| 03:28 |
|
paul |
fichtre, c'est exact. |
| 03:28 |
|
osmoze |
ni sourceforge ni katipo |
| 03:28 |
|
paul |
pourquoi, tu veux revenir en 2.0 ? |
| 03:29 |
|
osmoze |
bin c est pour l upgrade |
| 03:29 |
|
paul |
Je te réactive la 2.0.2 sur sourceforge |
| 03:29 |
|
osmoze |
je migre cette semaine |
| 03:29 |
|
osmoze |
ok, merci :) |
| 03:29 |
|
paul |
super pour ce qui est de la migration ;-) |
| 03:30 |
|
osmoze |
je risque d etre un peu embetant ces prochains temps ^^ |
| 03:30 |
|
paul |
je suis là |
| 03:30 |
|
paul |
voilà |
| 03:30 |
|
paul |
http://sourceforge.net/project[…]&package_id=12718 |
| 03:30 |
|
osmoze |
ok, c est parti, merci :) |
| 03:32 |
|
paul |
you're welcome |
| 03:47 |
|
osmoze |
tiens, quand il y a une erreur dans l installeur, et que l on retombe sur le shell, c est tout rouge ^^ |
| 03:47 |
|
paul |
reset est ton ami je pense |
| 03:48 |
|
paul |
(pas le bouton, hein, la commande shell) |
| 03:48 |
|
osmoze |
lol |
| 03:48 |
|
osmoze |
^^ |
| 03:48 |
|
hdl |
lorsque tu relances l'installer, les couleurs se réinitialisent dtf |
| 03:49 |
|
osmoze |
oki :) et bonjour hdl ^^ |
| 03:49 |
|
hdl |
bonjour osmoze. |
| 03:49 |
|
hdl |
un plaisir de se trouver sur des listes amies ;) |
| 03:50 |
|
osmoze |
vi :) |
| 03:50 |
|
osmoze |
tiens, un ls et plus rien couleur normale |
| 03:50 |
|
osmoze |
bon |
| 03:50 |
|
paul |
c'était un message codé ? |
| 03:50 |
|
hdl |
en fait, on fréquente léa tous les deux ;) |
| 04:21 |
|
osmoze |
une question paul, le script d import et export avec la bdp fonctionnera toujours avec la 2.3 ? |
| 04:22 |
|
paul |
probablement, mais c'est trop tot pour le dire définitivement. En tous cas, nous allons tout faire pour conserver l'API actuelle de la gestion des notices. |
| 04:28 |
|
osmoze |
hum....ma question (mal formulée) parle du script que tu nous avez developper pour ajouter et enlever les notices bdp et c etait sur la 2.2.3 ^^ |
| 04:29 |
|
paul |
ah, alors c'est clair : RAS |
| 04:29 |
|
paul |
aucune modif dans la base, donc aucune modif dans les API, donc ca marchera pareil ;-) |
| 04:30 |
|
osmoze |
merci :) |
| 05:12 |
|
paul |
hdl : commit avec modifs, mais ca ne marche toujours pas bien. Mais c'est meux. je continue à chercher |
| 05:13 |
|
hdl |
merci. Je vais étudier ce qui ne va pas. |
| 07:06 |
|
osmoze |
paul, une question venant de sandrine, tu me dis de virer le thesaurus 700 701 702, sa question : c est remplacé par quoi ? car si on recherche par auteur ca marche plus |
| 07:06 |
|
osmoze |
et pour les nouvelles notices que j integrerai de la bdp, ca fera comment ? |
| 07:07 |
|
paul |
joker pour la BDP. |
| 07:07 |
|
osmoze |
erf, en fait je comprend pas le couac de ces champs |
| 07:07 |
|
paul |
s'il n'y a pas les auteurs en 200, alors, il faut laisser les champs 700, 701 et 702 |
| 07:07 |
|
paul |
MAIS : tu n'es pas obligé de les relier à un thésaurus. Ca peut être des champs à saisir librement. |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
en UNIMARC strict, ce devrait être des listes d'autorité. |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
mais vous n'avez peut être pas besoin de ca ;-) |
| 07:08 |
|
osmoze |
en fait, si je l enleve, personne n y voit que du feu |
| 07:21 |
|
osmoze |
de plus, je pense avoir un petit probleme au niveau de l intranet, quand je veux changer de site, le clic de la souris ne fonctionne pas, cela fonctionne qu avec la touche entré positionné dessus, je n ai rien vu de telle dans la mailing, une idée ? |
| 07:21 |
|
osmoze |
(le bouton valider) |
| 07:21 |
|
paul |
??? non, aucune |
| 07:29 |
|
paul_away |
oups, clic un peu rapide... |
| 07:30 |
|
paul |
osmoze : l'adresse ne fonctionne pas |
| 07:30 |
|
paul |
(pas de réponse du serveur) |
| 07:31 |
|
osmoze |
hum..je regarde |
| 07:45 |
|
osmoze |
ma redirection dns ne marche plus, je regarde et reviens :) |
| 08:00 |
|
osmoze |
paul, peux tu reessayer ? |
| 08:00 |
|
paul |
redonne l'adresse |
| 08:00 |
|
osmoze |
koha.homelinux.org |
| 10:13 |
|
kados |
hi all |
| 10:14 |
|
kados |
Athens County has major power probs today |
| 10:14 |
|
kados |
my home network has been down for about 18 hours |
| 10:14 |
|
kados |
:-( |
