| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:30 |
|
slef |
anyone like that email? |
| 12:30 |
|
slef |
the summary one |
| 13:51 |
|
pate |
yeah, i did |
| 14:05 |
|
slef |
I wonder if I can do those weekly :-/ |
| 14:55 |
|
paul |
slef : would be great. |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
slef: thanks for the summary! |
| 14:57 |
|
kados |
slef: it's something I've been meaning to do but didn't get around to |
| 15:12 |
|
kados |
sweet ... I've got a zap web-based Z39.50 server working: |
| 15:12 |
|
kados |
s/server/client/ |
| 15:12 |
|
kados |
http://liblime.com/zap/try.html |
| 15:13 |
|
kados |
Still having probs with that large dataset so the search on the localhost doesn't work |
| 15:13 |
|
kados |
but you can search NPLs data using the following setting: |
| 15:13 |
|
kados |
66.213.78.76:9999/VOYAGER |
| 15:13 |
|
kados |
(under 'server') |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
I guess you have to use USMARC to get results |
| 15:14 |
|
kados |
huh ... maybe not |
| 15:15 |
|
owen |
SUTRS works, but not HTML |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
right |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
heh xml does though |
| 15:15 |
|
owen |
What's SUTRS? |
| 15:15 |
|
owen |
Couldn't be much faster |
| 15:15 |
|
kados |
it's a text based record format |
| 15:16 |
|
kados |
we'll see how it fares on the big dataset as soon as I resolve my path problems |
| 15:20 |
|
sanspach |
something odd with charset translation though--standard european diacritics are displaying as Chinese characters! |
| 15:26 |
|
kados |
here's an advanced query page: |
| 15:26 |
|
kados |
http://liblime.com/zap/advanced.html |
| 15:26 |
|
kados |
(still just a proof of concept) |
| 15:26 |
|
kados |
but here you can request from multiple sources and get results back |
| 15:27 |
|
kados |
something like this with an integrated MARC editor will probably be a good solution for catalogers |
| 15:27 |
|
kados |
sanspach: could you give me an example? |
| 15:28 |
|
sanspach |
searching es33.uits.indiana.edu:2200/Unicorn for author=durrenmatt retrieves great examples |
| 15:28 |
|
sanspach |
available via LC's gateway under Indiana University for useful side-by-side compare |
| 15:28 |
|
kados |
right |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
interesting |
| 15:29 |
|
kados |
they are displaying as ? for me |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
I'll have to figure out what to do with different charsets |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
I think utf8 all the way for display |
| 15:30 |
|
sanspach |
I got mix of Chinese and the square boxes (which usually means Unicode char. not displayable w/installed fonts) |
| 15:30 |
|
kados |
right |
| 15:31 |
|
sanspach |
odd the way the chars are corrupted, though--problem for both composite character *and* next one |
| 15:33 |
|
sanspach |
instead of D!rrenmatt for D\:urrenmatt it is D!!renmatt (where ! is bad char) |
| 15:33 |
|
sanspach |
and M!!chen instead of M!nchen |
| 15:33 |
|
kados |
right |
| 15:33 |
|
kados |
not sure why ... I'll have to look into it |
| 15:35 |
|
slef |
u-umlaut is 2-bytes in utf8 IIRC |
| 15:36 |
|
slef |
oh wait |
| 16:48 |
|
owen |
hi rach |
| 16:48 |
|
rach |
hi |
| 16:54 |
|
owen |
bye rach ;) |
| 19:36 |
|
kados |
http://olinks.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:36 |
|
kados |
http://www.theresearcher.ca/index.html |
| 19:37 |
|
kados |
it'd be nice to have openurl, and link resolution integrated into Koha |
| 19:38 |
|
kados |
chris around? |
| 19:39 |
|
kados |
hey owen |
| 19:39 |
|
owen |
hey |
| 19:39 |
|
kados |
what's up? |
| 19:39 |
|
chris |
yep, pretty busy though, whats up? |
| 19:39 |
|
kados |
http://liblime.com/zap/advanced.html |
| 19:39 |
|
kados |
that's the advanced page |
| 19:40 |
|
kados |
here's the simple: |
| 19:40 |
|
kados |
http://liblime.com/zap/try.html |
| 19:40 |
|
kados |
zap is a web-based z39.50 client |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
right |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
thats fast |
| 19:40 |
|
chris |
unfortunately now we need to slow it down some |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
by adding other stuff |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
right |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
but it still should be faster overall i think |
| 19:41 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 19:41 |
|
chris |
(ie we want to be able to search by branch, only return itmes that arent lost to the opac etc) |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
actually, searching by branch could just be a seperate index |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
hhmmm |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
u want to be talking to the real db for item stuff |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
and returning non-lost items is pretty easy too since we do the items query after we do thte marc query |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
it changes a lot |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
but that part of the search (now) is really fast |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:42 |
|
kados |
it's the initial marc_word that's so slow |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
so you get a bunch of biblionumbers |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
and then return only the ones with items that match our criteria |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
we shouldn't even need to change our item-query section at all |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
shouldnt be to hard to do |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
it already does the stuff we need it to do |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
true |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
we just need a yaz wrapper to grab the biblionumbers |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
I'm gonna try to get to that tonight |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
Net::z3950 |
| 19:43 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
well ... dinner first ;-) |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
take a look at teh z3950 client |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
ok |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
its pretty much the base for it |
| 19:44 |
|
kados |
i'm gonna really look closely at zap as well |
| 19:44 |
|
chris |
we dont need to do the daemonising etc either |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
i now have an xml file of the bibliographical data for the new library we are doing an install for |
| 19:46 |
|
chris |
thanks to good IBM documentation and a smart local ex system librarian |
| 19:46 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
<ROOT> |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
<BIB _ID = "15009"> |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
<TITLE_MV TITLE = "Behind the tattooed face"/> |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
<AUTHOR_MV AUTHOR = "BAKER, Heretaunga Pat"/> |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
<PUBLISHER_MV/> |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
<BARCODE2_MV BARCODE2 = "31506000153634"/> |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
it doesnt get much easier to parse than that |
| 19:48 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 19:48 |
|
kados |
dynix exports in xml eh? |
| 19:48 |
|
chris |
nope |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
but universe the underlying database can be made to |
| 19:49 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 19:49 |
|
kados |
I'm surprised it doesn't export to MARC |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
it does |
| 19:49 |
|
chris |
if you pay someone to set it up for you |
| 19:50 |
|
kados |
ahh ... right ... that's what spydus does |
| 19:50 |
|
kados |
it's broken ... you pay them $2K and they change a line in the code somewhere and whalla it works ;-) |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 19:50 |
|
chris |
crippleware |
| 19:50 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
you can only get away with that in software |
| 19:51 |
|
kados |
it's pretty sad how many librarians don't realize it's setup that way |
| 19:51 |
|
kados |
it's their data but they can't get to it |
| 19:51 |
|
chris |
exactly |
| 19:53 |
|
slef |
MuggingWare |
| 02:16 |
|
hdl |
hi |
| 02:18 |
|
osmoze |
hi hdl :) |
| 03:47 |
|
chris |
evening |
| 03:47 |
|
paul |
chris is not sleeping yet ? |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
its only 8.48pm |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
im watching some tv before bed |
| 03:48 |
|
paul |
right. We are in summer time. So there is only 10hours between us. |
| 03:48 |
|
paul |
(GMT+12 vs GMT+2) |
| 03:48 |
|
chris |
right |
| 03:49 |
|
chris |
dynix -> xml -> koha |
| 03:50 |
|
chris |
there seems to be plenty of koha work on around the world at the moment |
| 03:50 |
|
chris |
its good to see |
| 03:51 |
|
paul |
some code from argentina & my hapiness would be complete ! |
| 03:51 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 04:03 |
|
slef |
new debian 3.1 out now |
| 04:03 |
|
chris |
yep, saw that :) |
| 04:04 |
|
chris |
gonna have to schedule a time to do an upgrade for our servers, .. and reinstall a bunch of perl modules |
| 04:04 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 06:07 |
|
kados |
paul: what does the dictionary search do? |
| 06:07 |
|
kados |
paul good afternoon ;-) |
| 06:24 |
|
kados |
slef about? |
| 06:25 |
|
kados |
here's a planet installation that seems able to handle my html: http://curtis.med.yale.edu/code4lib/ |
| 07:03 |
|
hdl |
kados : dictionary search allows ppl to search among all authorities even rejected forms. |
| 07:04 |
|
paul |
the search is on authorities & on existing values in biblio titles / authors / subjects. |
| 07:04 |
|
paul |
should be an help for user not knowing exactly how to write what he is looking for |
| 07:05 |
|
paul |
(what is the surname of Hugo, the author i'm looking for... let me see what exists in this library about hugo...) |
| 07:05 |
|
paul |
(s/surname/firstname/) |
| 07:06 |
|
kados |
right |
| 07:06 |
|
kados |
thanks |
| 07:06 |
|
paul |
note that it searchs in 2 parts : authorities and existing values. |
| 07:07 |
|
paul |
so libraries without authorities should be happy as well as others. |
| 07:07 |
|
kados |
can't we import authorities from the library of congress for free (or the bibliotech de france)? |
| 07:08 |
|
kados |
(so authorities would come 'pre-loaded' in Koha? |
| 07:08 |
|
kados |
(or are authorities usually defined by the library) |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
there are possibilities to do such things. |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
both in fact ;-) |
| 07:08 |
|
kados |
(I don't understand the process since NPL doesn't use authorities) |
| 07:08 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
some very specialised libraries have a specific authority list. like CMI (mathematics, that uses AMS thesaurus) |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
most libraries uses a common authority list. |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
In france, you can get authorities from BNF, Rameau. |
| 07:09 |
|
kados |
it would be really nice if we preloaded some standard 'common' authoritiy list and had it auto-update |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
yes but no. |
| 07:09 |
|
kados |
(not nice for everyone ;-)) |
| 07:10 |
|
paul |
even for a library that uses Rameau, the complete rameau thesaurus is unuseable : 420 000 entries just for personal names. |
| 07:11 |
|
paul |
but let's ignore personal names, that are not heavily used. |
| 07:11 |
|
paul |
let speak about subject. |
| 07:11 |
|
paul |
even there, a thesaurus like Rameau is far far too wide for a public library. |
| 07:11 |
|
paul |
and not specialized enough for a specialized library. |
| 07:12 |
|
paul |
so, here in France, everybody want Rameau, but nobody uses it ;-) except when you get your biblio from BNF too |
| 07:12 |
|
paul |
because in this case, you have biblios & authorities coming from the same source. |
| 07:16 |
|
slef |
kados: I don't use planet itself and you should use 1999's xhtml by now. |
| 07:16 |
|
slef |
:) |
| 07:16 |
|
slef |
I will work on the underlying libraries for planet koha probably next week, though. |
| 07:17 |
|
slef |
or maybe this week if stuff goes well |
| 07:17 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 07:17 |
|
slef |
planet has 2 big problems: it doesn't handle incoming items cleanly (which leads to planet-spam whenever someone updates a blosxom install) and it's in python |
| 07:18 |
|
kados |
gotcha |
| 07:22 |
|
paul |
kados : did you see askjeeves extended features. Could be really nice in an OPAC |
| 07:22 |
|
paul |
http://sp.ask.com/docs/mj/1.1/tour_intro.html |
| 07:27 |
|
kados |
paul: that would be really easy |
| 07:27 |
|
kados |
paul: I did a 'answers.com' |
| 07:27 |
|
kados |
it's not finished yet (broken right now) |
| 07:27 |
|
kados |
I'll look into askjeeves as well |
| 07:35 |
|
kados |
paul, slef, hdl, Genji can I schedule the next bugsquashing meeting for Thursday June 9th at 14:00 UTC(GMT): in your time: http://tinyurl.com/dloaw |
| 07:36 |
|
paul |
i won't be here. |
| 07:36 |
|
paul |
(neither hdl) |
| 07:36 |
|
kados |
paul: how about friday? |
| 07:36 |
|
paul |
morning for me could be OK, but not evening. |
| 07:36 |
|
paul |
(i'll be on Perl conference, see mail on koha-devel) |
| 07:37 |
|
kados |
ahh ... right |
| 07:37 |
|
kados |
how about next tuesday? |
| 07:37 |
|
Genji |
anytime, anyday is okay. |
| 07:37 |
|
kados |
in your time: http://tinyurl.com/asl8y |
| 07:37 |
|
paul |
ok for me, after 15GMT, because i have to get my 1st son at school exit. |
| 07:37 |
|
kados |
ok ... how about hdl? |
| 07:38 |
|
Genji |
Err.. except 5:30pm to 10pm Wensday and friday. Japanese drumming. |
| 07:38 |
|
hdl |
ok for me... |
| 07:38 |
|
kados |
slef: ? |
| 07:38 |
|
Genji |
i need a specific time |
| 07:38 |
|
kados |
Genji: http://tinyurl.com/779cy |
| 07:39 |
|
Genji |
Wha, that in 3 hours? |
| 07:40 |
|
kados |
slef: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 at 15:00 UTC work for a Bugsquash meeting? |
| 07:40 |
|
kados |
Genji: no... next week ;-) |
| 07:40 |
|
Genji |
ah. good. ya. ill take it. |
| 07:40 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 07:46 |
|
slef |
kados: I'm out from 11am Friday until Sunday. Might be out Thursday lunchtime. |
| 07:46 |
|
slef |
Tuesday 14 ok. |
| 07:46 |
|
slef |
in fact looks fine |
| 07:47 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 07:47 |
|
kados |
paul: can you test this URL ? http://tinyurl.com/as66z |
| 07:47 |
|
paul |
yes and ? |
| 07:47 |
|
kados |
paul: it should return bugzilla with 68 bugs listed by order of importance |
| 07:47 |
|
paul |
right. |
| 07:47 |
|
kados |
great ... |
| 07:47 |
|
kados |
thanks |
| 07:48 |
|
paul |
some still assigned to steve tonnesen... |
| 07:48 |
|
paul |
we should really update some bugzilla parameters... |
| 07:49 |
|
paul |
how do you do to write tinyurl so quickly ? |
| 07:50 |
|
kados |
paul: go to tinyurl.com ;-) |
| 07:50 |
|
kados |
paul: I can do that now (chris gave me bugzilla superpowers ;-)) |
| 07:50 |
|
kados |
paul: I'll do it as soon as I"m done with this email |
| 07:51 |
|
paul |
I know this service. just wanted to know if you had a specific tool to write them so quickly or if you had a tab always open on this page. |
| 07:52 |
|
kados |
paul: tab ;-) |
| 07:54 |
|
kados |
paul: who should have simple acquisitions, authentication, and parameters? |
| 07:55 |
|
paul |
is it possible to have an owner by version ? |
| 07:55 |
|
kados |
hmmm, I don't think so |
| 07:55 |
|
paul |
so parameters => me |
| 07:55 |
|
paul |
acquisition => chris |
| 07:55 |
|
paul |
auth => dunno (probably not me) |
| 07:55 |
|
paul |
(are there bugs about authentication in fact ?) |
| 07:56 |
|
kados |
hehe good question |
| 07:57 |
|
kados |
only three |
| 07:57 |
|
kados |
for version 2.0 |
| 07:58 |
|
kados |
I'll put chris |
| 07:58 |
|
kados |
paul: any new categories to add? |
| 07:59 |
|
paul |
stats maybe ? |
| 07:59 |
|
paul |
& not sure acquisition.simple still means something. |
| 08:00 |
|
kados |
right |
| 08:01 |
|
kados |
I'll ask katipo about that |
| 08:01 |
|
kados |
stats => paul ? |
| 08:01 |
|
paul |
hdl |
| 08:01 |
|
kados |
and whats the description for this component? |
| 08:01 |
|
paul |
statistics & reports |
| 08:07 |
|
kados |
paul: any news from Emiliano? If not I'll write him another email ;-) |
| 08:07 |
|
paul |
no news. hélas. |
| 08:10 |
|
kados |
as a joke ;-) |
| 08:11 |
|
paul |
be careful not to be ranked as spammer by his spamassassin... |
| 08:11 |
|
paul |
(but could be fun anyway) |
| 08:50 |
|
paul |
kados : i've parsed the 20 first bugs from your previous tinyurl |
| 08:50 |
|
paul |
none of them can be fixed with more informations or strategic chat. |
| 08:51 |
|
paul |
s/with/without/ |
| 08:51 |
|
paul |
& at least 2 or 3 should be fixed already |
| 08:51 |
|
paul |
so, the meeting will be very interesting ;-) |
| 08:53 |
|
kados |
paul: :-) |
| 08:53 |
|
paul |
2.2.3 is really close to be "releasable" |
| 08:53 |
|
kados |
paul: hopefully we'll get feedback by next week |
| 08:53 |
|
kados |
great! |
| 08:53 |
|
paul |
what is your opinion about next bugsquashing : should I wait or not ? |
| 08:53 |
|
paul |
i think that I should release 2.2.3 |
| 08:54 |
|
kados |
go ahead |
| 08:54 |
|
kados |
IMO |
| 08:54 |
|
paul |
(after a translating time) |
| 08:54 |
|
kados |
realease early and often ;-) |
| 08:54 |
|
paul |
ok, i announce 2.2.3 for next monday. |
| 08:54 |
|
kados |
paul: but let owen catch up |
| 08:54 |
|
paul |
(to devel & translate lists) |
| 09:14 |
|
slef |
paul: I'll try to work the options out to avoid rel_2_2 |
| 09:15 |
|
paul |
slef : but it's interesting to know what happends on rel_2_2 |
| 09:15 |
|
paul |
(even if it should become only a little traffic) |
| 09:17 |
|
slef |
hey, that log doesn't have any rel_2_2 as far as I can tell |
| 09:37 |
|
paul |
'morning owen. |
| 09:37 |
|
owen |
Hi paul |
| 09:38 |
|
paul |
will you stay around here ? |
| 09:39 |
|
owen |
I'll be here all day |
| 09:56 |
|
kados |
paul: it'd be nice if we could put together a "Koha Research Toolbar" |
| 09:56 |
|
kados |
where you could store lots of different links -- search results being only one type |
| 09:56 |
|
kados |
web urls (so a bookmarks section) |
| 09:56 |
|
kados |
images |
| 09:57 |
|
kados |
we could also integrate search APIs from other collections/ILSes |
| 10:03 |
|
hdl |
kados : would it be developped in XUL ? |
| 10:09 |
|
kados |
hdl: not sure ... I've never done a firefox extension |
| 10:10 |
|
kados |
chris would probably have some suggestions |
| 11:14 |
|
kados |
FrancoisL: howdy! |
| 11:15 |
|
FrancoisL |
howdy, Joshua ! How's life ? |
| 11:15 |
|
FrancoisL |
I'll be with the SAN tomorrow to list all functions we'll program - 'll keep you posted. |
| 11:15 |
|
kados |
great! |
| 11:15 |
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kados |
I'll look forward to reading it ;-) |
| 11:15 |
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paul |
don't forget to add me to the mail. |
| 11:15 |
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kados |
things are well here |
| 11:16 |
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FrancoisL |
won't ! |
| 11:16 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: have you seen the new searching 'proof of concept'? |
| 11:16 |
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kados |
http://liblime.com/zap/advanced.html |
| 11:16 |
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kados |
it's very fast |
| 11:16 |
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kados |
(only the Nelsonville checkbox is working atm) |
| 11:17 |
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FrancoisL |
Kool ! Is it through a z3950 client ? |
| 11:17 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: yep |
| 11:17 |
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FrancoisL |
kudos to kados... |
| 11:21 |
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FrancoisL |
Zap! is fazt! |
| 11:21 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: yep ... I'm working on a LibLime database that's 5 million items too |
| 11:21 |
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paul |
right. |
| 11:21 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: actually, it's the engine doing the Z39.50 magic that's fast. |
| 11:22 |
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FrancoisL |
kados: will it make it into next release ? |
| 11:22 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: server magic that is -- it's Zebra |
| 11:22 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: definitely |
| 11:22 |
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FrancoisL |
That's good news for the SANe. |
| 11:22 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: I'm hoping to have the 5Million records working in the next few days |
| 11:22 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: then we can really test the speed ;-) |
| 11:22 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: currently, NPL has 150K biblios |
| 11:23 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: so 5 Million is quite a few more ;-) |
| 11:23 |
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FrancoisL |
Can you wire the library of congress + French BnF ? Must be more than xxx mill. ! |
| 11:23 |
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FrancoisL |
There's a public Z3950 server in BnF (hey, Paul !) |
| 11:24 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: I wonder if we could get access to the MARC records in LOC or BnF |
| 11:24 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: we could do a 'proof of concept' Koha install for them ;-) |
| 11:24 |
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paul |
in fact, francoisL, the idea is to use this server for searching in koha, instead of internal search. |
| 11:25 |
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FrancoisL |
Sounds like a good idea as it's faster and... does not rely on Marc_words (?) |
| 11:25 |
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kados |
searching currently is broken into two parts |
| 11:25 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: exactly |
| 11:25 |
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kados |
first, find biblio numbers |
| 11:25 |
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kados |
second, get item info for all items attached to those biblios |
| 11:25 |
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kados |
I plan to use Zebra for step 1 |
| 11:26 |
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paul |
kados : the z3950 server of BNF is public, needs no authentification, but can be slow. |
| 11:26 |
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kados |
step 2 is actually quite fast |
| 11:26 |
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kados |
paul: can we download ALL the records? |
| 11:26 |
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paul |
as slow as LoC in fact ;-) |
| 11:26 |
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kados |
paul: is there some way to scrape it? |
| 11:26 |
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paul |
I don't think so. |
| 11:26 |
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FrancoisL |
Step 2 is staightforward MySQL... |
| 11:26 |
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kados |
FrancoisL: right |
| 11:26 |
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paul |
but, francoisL, could you request SAN to see if they have a CDROM ? |
| 11:26 |
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paul |
(as BNF also publish cd that are free for libraries) |
| 11:26 |
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kados |
so I'm working on a Yaz wrapper to do the initial query ... shoudl have something later this week |
| 11:26 |
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FrancoisL |
What CDROM ? Opale ? |
| 11:26 |
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paul |
(the problem being i'm not a library) |
| 11:27 |
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paul |
I think so. |
| 11:27 |
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kados |
paul: right |
| 11:27 |
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kados |
if we could get a "super large" data set xxx million records |
| 11:27 |
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kados |
that would be really great |
| 11:27 |
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FrancoisL |
OK I'll ask them tomorrow. |
| 11:27 |
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FrancoisL |
(and in... french too !) |
| 11:27 |
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kados |
(though 5 mill is quite large) |
| 11:27 |
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kados |
right ;-) |
| 11:28 |
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kados |
also note that the MARC file for 5 million records is 4.5 gig |
| 11:28 |
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FrancoisL |
I think size does not matter - provided it's more than 200 K or so... |
| 11:28 |
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paul |
note joshua, that it would be unimarc, not usmarc. |
| 11:28 |
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paul |
but that does not matter probably |
| 11:28 |
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kados |
paul: yea ... I didn't see an easy way for Zebra to parse that |
| 11:28 |
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kados |
paul: but I didn't look too hard |
| 11:29 |
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paul |
mmm... very bad news... |
| 11:29 |
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kados |
paul: it's easier than you think |
| 11:29 |
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kados |
download, install |
| 11:29 |
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kados |
export records to raw marc |
| 11:29 |
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kados |
move records file to test/unimarc/records |
| 11:30 |
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kados |
edit test/unimarc/zebra.cfg to add any options you need (default ones are fine though) |
| 11:30 |
|
kados |
run test.sh |
| 11:30 |
|
kados |
it will index records and automatically start the server |
| 11:30 |
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paul |
yes, but in unimarc, title is in 200$a, not in 245, so i'm wondering how zebra can handle that ! |
| 11:31 |
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kados |
well I'm assuming that test/unimarc/ knows that ;-) |
| 11:31 |
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kados |
if not you can edit zebra.cfg to specify which things to index |
| 11:31 |
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kados |
syntax is pretty simple |
| 11:31 |
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kados |
there is no test/unimarc |
| 11:32 |
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kados |
so you will need to write a zebra.cfg for unimarc |
| 11:32 |
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kados |
there's a marcxml |
| 11:32 |
|
kados |
rsusmarc |
| 11:32 |
|
kados |
and usmarc |
| 11:32 |
|
kados |
(also some others like dmoz ;-) |
| 11:33 |
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FrancoisL |
Let's say we want to display the title and author field in an USMARC record. The title is stored in field 245, subfield a and the author name is stored in field 100 where the subfields for surname is a and for first name it is h. This would look something like this in ZAP: |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
%%format usmarc |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
245 |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
245/* |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
245/*/a "<B>Title:</B> $data" |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
100 |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
100/* |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
100/*/a "<br><B>Author:</B> $data" |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
100/*/h ", $data" |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
|
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
Given the values "The Ugly Ducklin", "Hans Christian " and "Andersen" for title, first name and surname, respectively, the output would be: |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
<B>Title:</B> The Ugly Ducklin |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
<B>Author:</B>Andersen, Hans Christian |
| 11:33 |
|
FrancoisL |
The change should be painful but quick :) |
| 11:34 |
|
paul |
I must leave now. Farewell |
| 11:35 |
|
FrancoisL |
bye ! |
| 11:35 |
|
FrancoisL |
Leaving too - see ya all ! |
| 11:35 |
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kados |
bye all |
