Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
13:09 |
|
paul |
sylvain, le template officiel pour la 2.2 est le template css. |
13:09 |
|
paul |
le défaut est totalement dépassé, il faudrait le virer en fait. |
13:09 |
|
paul |
owen, are you here ? |
13:09 |
|
paul |
kados, are you here ? |
13:09 |
|
owen |
Yes |
13:09 |
|
paul |
good morning. |
13:10 |
|
owen |
Hi |
13:10 |
|
sylvain |
ok paul ça tombe bien ;) |
13:10 |
|
sylvain |
j'vais commiter ça alors pour le desc/asc |
13:11 |
|
sylvain |
pour le moment je regarde l'affichage explicite des champs manquants lors de la création d'une notice |
13:12 |
|
sylvain |
mais qu'est-ce qu'elles sont lourdes ces pages de créaion de notice, sur mon ptit pc, c'est dur ;) |
13:12 |
|
paul |
ok, dis moi bien au fur et à mesure ce que tu fais, histoire d'éviter que hdl et toi bossiez sur la même chose ! |
13:13 |
|
sylvain |
ouais c'est sur que ça vaut pas le coup |
13:13 |
|
sylvain |
mais jusqu'ici tu sais tout, j'fais rien en secret ;) |
13:13 |
|
paul |
lol |
13:14 |
|
paul |
(et hdl n'a pas encore commencé, il peaufine 2-3 choses sur le module stat & gère le changement de serveur koha-fr.org) |
13:15 |
|
sylvain |
j'ai vu ses commit ouais au niveau des stats mais j'ai pas encore regardé. Et pour les serveurs ouais j'ai vu ça sur une ML |
14:02 |
|
hdl |
Paul, toujours là ? |
14:02 |
|
paul |
yep |
14:02 |
|
hdl |
J'aurais des questions sur les issues stats |
14:03 |
|
paul |
je t'attends en visio |
14:06 |
|
hdl |
J'attends que tu m'appelles en visio ? |
14:14 |
|
paul |
owen ? |
14:14 |
|
paul |
kados ? |
14:14 |
|
owen |
Yes |
14:14 |
|
owen |
Still no kados, I guess. |
14:14 |
|
paul |
hdl & me have a problem |
14:14 |
|
paul |
with issues stats. |
14:15 |
|
paul |
are you able to know how long an issue lasts ? |
14:15 |
|
owen |
What do you mean? |
14:15 |
|
paul |
I mean that in the issues table, we have : |
14:15 |
|
paul |
* date_due that is the date where the book is supposed to be returned |
14:16 |
|
paul |
* returndate, the date where the book is returned |
14:16 |
|
paul |
* but no field to define the date where he was issued |
14:16 |
|
paul |
(the timestamp field is modified on each movement) |
14:19 |
|
owen |
So you're trying to find out when the book was first issued? |
14:19 |
|
paul |
yes. |
14:19 |
|
paul |
to know how long the issue lasts |
14:19 |
|
paul |
i thought i could use timestamp, but it's automatically modified on each sql update |
14:20 |
|
paul |
and return or renewal is a sql update. |
14:20 |
|
owen |
Interesting...it doesn't look like there's a way, does it? |
14:20 |
|
paul |
?? |
14:21 |
|
paul |
in fact, maybe the statistics table is what we are looking for. |
14:22 |
|
owen |
Maybe so--I'm not familiar with that table. |
14:22 |
|
paul |
is kados more familiar you think ? |
14:22 |
|
JYL57 |
unless checking recursion on contiguous issues lines ! |
14:22 |
|
owen |
Or Stephen. But Stephen doesn't seem to be able to get online this morning! |
14:23 |
|
owen |
I'll be chris would be able to help. |
14:23 |
|
paul |
yes, i'll send a mail to koha-devel. |
14:23 |
|
owen |
have you looked at the statistics table? |
14:23 |
|
paul |
yes. |
14:23 |
|
paul |
it COULD be helpful, but is poorly designed |
14:23 |
|
owen |
The 'type' column seems to have what you're looking for: issue, renew, return, payment |
14:23 |
|
paul |
because each movement is one line. |
14:25 |
|
paul |
yes. The problem being to know how to find which issue goes with which return |
14:25 |
|
JYL57 |
paul, should I get CVS access on Koha Project (or a part of) ?! I'm checking eclipse workbench |
14:25 |
|
owen |
True. |
14:25 |
|
paul |
JYL57 : tu peux avoir un accès anonyme sans rien demander à personne ;-) |
14:25 |
|
paul |
ok, we will mail chris |
14:26 |
|
JYL57 |
Ok, vais essayer, pas sûr cependant pour Eclipse... |
14:34 |
|
owen |
paul, we're getting strange results when we try to limit a search by branch |
14:35 |
|
paul_away |
(sorry owen) |
14:40 |
|
JYL57 |
owen could you explain your strange results ?! |
14:42 |
|
owen |
I'm trying a search for 'shakespeare' and limiting it to one branch. |
14:43 |
|
owen |
Even though that branch owns books by shakespeare, the search is coming up with nothing |
14:43 |
|
JYL57 |
items.holdingbranch is correctly set I suppose ?! |
14:44 |
|
owen |
I'll double-check. |
14:44 |
|
JYL57 |
which Koha version owen ?! |
14:44 |
|
owen |
2.2 |
14:45 |
|
JYL57 |
We have two branches here, I will try to find a common author |
14:46 |
|
owen |
Hmm... perhaps it is a problem with items.holdingbranch |
14:49 |
|
owen |
No, holdingbranch just isn't showing up correctly in additem.pl. |
14:49 |
|
kados |
hi all |
14:49 |
|
owen |
The value is correct in the database. |
14:50 |
|
owen |
'morning kados! ;) |
14:51 |
|
kados |
morning ;-) |
14:51 |
|
JYL57 |
hi kados |
14:54 |
|
kados |
ok ... so here's the query: |
14:54 |
|
kados |
select distinct m1.bibid from biblio,biblioitems,marc_biblio,marc_word as m1,marc_subfield_table as m2 where biblio.biblionumber=marc_biblio.biblionumber and biblio.biblionumber=biblioitems.biblionumber and m1.bibid=marc_biblio.bibid and (m1.bibid=m2.bibid) and ((m1.word like 'shakespeare')and (m2.subfieldvalue = 'CPL' and concat(m2.tag,m2.subfieldcode) in ('952d'))) order by biblio.title |
14:55 |
|
owen |
Uh... where's items.holdingbranch in all that? |
14:56 |
|
kados |
does 'subfieldvalue = CPL' look like the prob there? |
14:56 |
|
kados |
well ... we shouldn't need items.holdingbranch as that's actually populated via the MARC |
14:56 |
|
owen |
Oh, I see. |
14:56 |
|
kados |
but I'm pretty sure that's not where it is |
14:56 |
|
owen |
What's strange is that if you use a different branch, you'll get results. |
14:57 |
|
kados |
huh |
14:57 |
|
kados |
so we're sure that CPL is how it exists in 952d? |
14:57 |
|
owen |
Oh, well I checked items.holdingbranch, but I didn't look at the MARC record. |
14:58 |
|
owen |
Wait a sec--if it's checking the MARC record, then how can it know the holdingbranch? The holdingbranch gets updated in items whenever you return an item. |
14:59 |
|
kados |
hmmm... |
14:59 |
|
owen |
(and I don't see a 952d tag in the MARC record) |
14:59 |
|
kados |
select * from marc_subfield_table where subfieldvalue like 'CPL' limit 0,20; works |
15:00 |
|
kados |
some of them are 952b and some are 952d |
15:01 |
|
kados |
that could be part of the problem |
15:01 |
|
kados |
so can you give me some titles that are in CPL? |
15:01 |
|
kados |
for sure ... |
15:01 |
|
owen |
hamlet, king lear, as you like it |
15:01 |
|
kados |
ok |
15:02 |
|
kados |
how about some non-shakespear titles |
15:02 |
|
owen |
making chocolates |
15:03 |
|
kados |
interesting ... leaving all search fields blank and limiting by CPL brings up 475 records |
15:03 |
|
kados |
that's a major bug afaic |
15:03 |
|
kados |
two probs there ... |
15:03 |
|
kados |
first: shouldn't allow me to do that |
15:04 |
|
kados |
second: don't you have more than 475 books? |
15:04 |
|
kados |
:-) |
15:04 |
|
owen |
I know we're small, but that's too small! |
15:04 |
|
kados |
so something's amiss ... I suspect the 952d vs 952b |
15:05 |
|
kados |
stephen probably accounted for in when the records are imported and mapped to Koha fields |
15:05 |
|
kados |
which would explain why it's right in items.* |
15:06 |
|
owen |
Why is the 952 tag not showing up in the MARC editor?! |
15:07 |
|
kados |
which marc editor? |
15:07 |
|
owen |
https://66.213.78.69/cgi-bin/k[…]iblionumber=67112 |
15:08 |
|
owen |
952b is homebranch. 952d is holdingbranch. So both are valid values. The search should be looking for items which have holdingbranch = CPL, so 952d = CPL. |
15:09 |
|
kados |
I wonder if this is related to our other marc display problem |
15:10 |
|
kados |
(the one we 'fixed') |
15:11 |
|
kados |
so the fields should show up even if the're blank (in the editor) right? |
15:11 |
|
owen |
Yes |
15:12 |
|
kados |
sigh |
15:12 |
|
kados |
I'm worried about the MARC21 version of Koha |
15:15 |
|
kados |
so ... we need to figure out why some of the items are working and others aren't |
15:16 |
|
owen |
The record I'm looking at doesn't show up because there's no 952d subfield for it. |
15:16 |
|
owen |
Only 952b shows up. |
15:16 |
|
owen |
select bibid, tag, subfieldcode, subfieldvalue from marc_subfield_table where bibid = 67112 and subfieldvalue = 'CPL'; |
15:16 |
|
owen |
67112 | 952 | b | CPL |
15:17 |
|
owen |
Is 952d getting added/updated when an item is issued/transferred/returned? |
15:17 |
|
owen |
Because it would have to be if this search is supposed to work. |
15:18 |
|
owen |
Here: sub returnbook at line 1006 of Circ2.pm |
15:19 |
|
kados |
huh ... here's an item that shows up in the "CPL" search but it still doesn't have 952s in the MARC editor |
15:19 |
|
kados |
https://66.213.78.69/cgi-bin/k[…]iblionumber=77421 |
15:20 |
|
kados |
I think you're on to something |
15:20 |
|
owen |
What was your search? |
15:21 |
|
owen |
But that item has both a 952d and a 952b |
15:21 |
|
owen |
So there was a 952d for the search to find. |
15:24 |
|
owen |
It looks like the holdingbranch information gets updated by sub dotransfer at line 487 of Circ2.pm. |
15:25 |
|
owen |
But it only updates the items table. |
15:25 |
|
owen |
Maybe all we have to do is add a query there to update marc_subfield_table? |
15:26 |
|
kados |
huh ... yea I wonder if paul should take a look at that too |
15:27 |
|
kados |
it seems like that would be a problem for his libraries too |
15:29 |
|
owen |
I still don't know why the 952 tag isn't showing up. |
15:31 |
|
owen |
Oh wait, maybe it /is/ the framework. |
15:38 |
|
owen |
Yeah, I think 952 was hidden on purpose. |
15:38 |
|
kados |
is items.holdingbranch 'linked' to 952d? and if not should it be ... and if so, does that mean that when one or the other is changed it updates the other? |
15:39 |
|
kados |
I'm not clear on how the 'links' work ... |
15:39 |
|
owen |
In fact I'm not even sure how that works... item info attached to the MARC record? |
15:39 |
|
kados |
yea ... seems a bit strange |
15:39 |
|
owen |
I was under the impression that the links only came into play when adding to the database. But I could be wrong. |
15:39 |
|
kados |
we need a marc expert |
15:40 |
|
owen |
Oh, I'm just not remembering correctly. The tag was set to tag '10', which means its handled by additem.pl...I think. |
15:42 |
|
kados |
hmmm? |
16:23 |
|
kados |
PORT STATE SERVICE |
16:23 |
|
kados |
21/tcp open ftp |
16:23 |
|
kados |
23/tcp open telnet |
16:23 |
|
kados |
80/tcp open http |
16:23 |
|
kados |
280/tcp open http-mgmt |
16:23 |
|
kados |
515/tcp open printer |
16:23 |
|
kados |
631/tcp open ipp |
16:23 |
|
kados |
9100/tcp open jetdirect |