| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 11:08 |
|
paul |
'morning owen |
| 11:08 |
|
owen |
Hi paul |
| 11:55 |
|
hdl |
Hi. |
| 11:55 |
|
hdl |
Paul Around ? |
| 11:55 |
|
paul |
tu causes plus la france maintenant ? |
| 11:55 |
|
hdl |
Si, mais c + fun. |
| 11:55 |
|
hdl |
Paul : problème avec mailman.... |
| 11:56 |
|
hdl |
Les listes sont maintenant sur le serveur. |
| 11:56 |
|
hdl |
Mailman actif. |
| 11:56 |
|
paul |
et... |
| 11:56 |
|
hdl |
Mais il semblerait que le process n'ai pas les même droits qu'apache. |
| 11:56 |
|
hdl |
error : permission denied. |
| 11:56 |
|
hdl |
Une idée ? |
| 11:57 |
|
paul |
oui, la visio |
| 12:29 |
|
owen |
Paul, wouldn't 'items.dateaccessioned' be a better field to sort by for the recent acquisitions search? Is that possible? |
| 12:29 |
|
owen |
We end up getting results in that search for items which were merely modified, not recently acquired. |
| 12:31 |
|
paul |
mmm... maybe |
| 12:31 |
|
paul |
i'm not sure |
| 12:31 |
|
paul |
(& don't have time to investigate more) |
| 12:31 |
|
owen |
It's something to think about. |
| 12:33 |
|
kados |
hi all |
| 12:33 |
|
paul |
hi kados |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
select distinct m1.bibid from biblio,biblioitems,marc_biblio,$sql_tables where biblio.biblionumber=marc_biblio.biblionumber and biblio.biblionumber=biblioitems.biblionumber and m1.bibid=marc_biblio.bibid and $sql_where1 order by $orderby |
| 12:40 |
|
kados |
oops |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
paul ... was the 'recent acquisitions' search meant to be a 'recently returned' search? |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
biblio.timestamp doesn't really tell anything about 'acquisition' |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
no kados. |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
it's related to acquisition |
| 12:45 |
|
paul |
(at least it should ;-) ) |
| 12:45 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 12:46 |
|
kados |
maybe not in our database eh? |
| 12:46 |
|
kados |
isn't biblio.timestamp just the 'last modified' field? |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
yes |
| 12:46 |
|
paul |
it's updated when the book is acquired AND when the biblio is modified. |
| 12:47 |
|
kados |
ahh... like when it's returned for instance ;-) |
| 12:47 |
|
paul |
in this second case, "last acquired book" is poor |
| 12:47 |
|
paul |
no |
| 12:47 |
|
owen |
No |
| 12:47 |
|
owen |
Returns don't affect the timestamp |
| 12:47 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 12:48 |
|
paul |
return is related to ITEMS |
| 12:49 |
|
paul |
while timestamp is related to BIBLIO |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
so how does it define 'last acquired' ... what kind of time-frame? A week? a month? |
| 12:49 |
|
kados |
we'd expect it to return ALL results ordered by biblio.timestamp |
| 12:52 |
|
paul |
that's the actual weakness of my method |
| 12:52 |
|
paul |
can't limit the search to some duration. |
| 12:53 |
|
owen |
The strange thing is that it /doesn't/ return ALL results for a particular itemtype |
| 12:53 |
|
paul |
should not be too hard, but requires some tmeplate change & maybe an API change too. |
| 13:28 |
|
slef |
where's Cat Maintenance gone in 2.2? |
| 13:30 |
|
owen |
Is that something in system administration? |
| 13:30 |
|
slef |
It was on intranet -> Catalogue -> Catalogue Maintenance in 2.0 |
| 13:35 |
|
Sylvain |
paul I've commited CVS for duplication |
| 13:35 |
|
Sylvain |
of biblios |
| 13:36 |
|
owen |
slef, I think that was for non-marc databases, so we never used it. Maybe paul know's what happened to it. |
| 13:37 |
|
paul |
slef : it was buggy & dangerous for the DB. I dropped it. feel free to fix & reintroduce it if needed. |
| 13:37 |
|
paul |
sylvain, ok i'll look |
| 13:41 |
|
Sylvain |
paul sur bureau.pp.com il y a des bases où les autorités sont prises en charge ? |
| 13:42 |
|
paul |
quel genre ? auteur ? sujet ? |
| 13:42 |
|
Sylvain |
sujet |
| 13:42 |
|
paul |
EMN |
| 13:42 |
|
Sylvain |
enfin auteur ça irait aussi en fait |
| 13:42 |
|
Sylvain |
d'accord merci |
| 13:42 |
|
paul |
auteur => dombes |
| 13:42 |
|
Sylvain |
ok, j'vais voir ça |
| 13:46 |
|
Sylvain |
paul j'ai un exemple qui fait ressortir le pb dont je te parlais hier soir |
| 13:46 |
|
Sylvain |
c'est sur Dombes |
| 13:46 |
|
Sylvain |
http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:[…]l.pl?authid=51440 |
| 13:46 |
|
Sylvain |
pour cet auteur, il t'annonce 3 notices |
| 13:46 |
|
Sylvain |
et quand tu les consultes, il n'y en a plus que 2 |
| 13:47 |
|
paul |
c'est normal (même s'il y a un bug que je vais détailler) |
| 13:48 |
|
paul |
dans la 1ere notice, l'entrée y est 2 fois |
| 13:48 |
|
paul |
(sauf que dans le 701, il est écrit lemann augustin alors que l'autorité est lemann joseph) |
| 13:49 |
|
paul |
(mais le 700 ET le 701 piontent sur cette même autorité. |
| 13:49 |
|
paul |
qui est donc utilisée 3 fois, dont 2 dans la même notice. |
| 13:49 |
|
paul |
alors j'accepte la remarque qu'il faudrait "utilisé 3 fois" et pas "utilisé dans 3 biblios" |
| 13:49 |
|
Sylvain |
bon ok, c'est pas le bon pb, je vais essayer de trouver celui que j'ai chez moi ;) |
| 13:51 |
|
Sylvain |
paul, tu as accés à koha.ensmp.fr ? |
| 13:51 |
|
paul |
connexion refusée... |
| 13:51 |
|
paul |
donc non. |
| 13:51 |
|
Sylvain |
k |
| 13:52 |
|
paul |
mais mon IP a changé. Il faut peut être demander une modif du firewall |
| 13:52 |
|
Sylvain |
c'est chiant toutes ces histoires d'accès ! :( |
| 13:52 |
|
paul |
ma nouvelle IP est : 213.41.174.86 |
| 13:52 |
|
paul |
a qui demander la modif... that is the question |
| 13:52 |
|
Sylvain |
le pb c'est que koha.ensmp c'est un gars de là-bas |
| 13:53 |
|
Sylvain |
je sais que lors de la réunion à Paris, matthieu lui avait parlé en sortant |
| 13:53 |
|
Sylvain |
faudra essayer de voir ça avec Matthieu mais il vient de partir |
| 13:54 |
|
Sylvain |
ah si j'viens de trouver un truc sur Domes qui cocrespond à mon pb. http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:[…]l.pl?authid=48042 |
| 13:55 |
|
Sylvain |
il y a une notice pour ce gars |
| 13:55 |
|
Sylvain |
mais il y est en 702 |
| 13:55 |
|
Sylvain |
et quand on veut consulter la liste des notices, il dit "vide" |
| 13:55 |
|
Sylvain |
et si on change l'ordre des champs dans l'url en : |
| 13:55 |
|
Sylvain |
http://bureau.paulpoulain.com:[…]or=and&excluding= |
| 13:55 |
|
Sylvain |
la ça passe |
| 13:55 |
|
Sylvain |
il ne prend que le premier élément de l'attribut marclist |
| 13:57 |
|
Sylvain |
parcequ'on fait un substr(0,4) dans search.marc/search.pl. Si on ne fait pas le substr mais place la ligne entière ça fonctionne |
| 14:01 |
|
owen |
The 'published between' options for the opac search don't seem to be working for us. I can never get any results. |
| 14:03 |
|
paul |
owen do you tried a date ? |
| 14:03 |
|
paul |
(a year) |
| 14:03 |
|
paul |
(between 2003 and 2004) |
| 14:04 |
|
owen |
Yes |
| 14:04 |
|
paul |
the search is done on biblioitems.publicationyear |
| 14:04 |
|
paul |
(not on copyrightdate), maybe that's the origin of your pb ? |
| 14:04 |
|
owen |
biblioitems.itemtype = DVD and items.holdingbranch = CPL and biblioitems.publicationyear >= 2004 and biblioitems.publicationyear <= 2005 |
| 14:05 |
|
Sylvain |
time to go, see you later |
| 14:05 |
|
paul |
sylvain, j'ai pas tout compris. |
| 14:05 |
|
paul |
on en reparle demain matin (aprèsm idi je suis absent) |
| 14:05 |
|
Syl_away |
ok, pas de pb pour demain matin, bonne soirée |
| 14:32 |
|
hdl |
paul: le site marche chez moi. C'était un problème d'utilisateur koha_spip non déclaré pour la gestion de la base. puis de rafraîchissement. |
| 15:14 |
|
hdl |
paul : débranche-t-on les listes de discussion de l'ob |
| 15:14 |
|
hdl |
? |
| 16:18 |
|
paul_away |
hdl : oui, on peut. Pour éviter les erreurs de DNS |
| 16:18 |
|
paul_away |
bon, je pars, on est mardi soir, j'ai mon rencart du mardi ;-) |
| 17:15 |
|
rach |
good morning |
| 17:19 |
|
JYL57 |
hello rach |
| 17:27 |
|
rach |
hello |
| 19:15 |
|
michael |
hi everyone |
| 19:16 |
|
michael |
... oups... good to be alive ... and to lunch at last... too cold in France outside... -10° C... hum too cold |
| 19:16 |
|
chris |
hi michael |
| 19:16 |
|
michael |
hi ;-) |
| 19:17 |
|
michael |
i wish to myself a "bon appétit" !!! :-) |
| 19:17 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 19:19 |
|
michael |
for information, great opac.css to use with koha http://bibcmi.univ-mrs.fr/~annaw/opackoha.css / Anna made it (OPAC here : http://bibcmi.univ-mrs.fr:8000[…]koha/opac-main.pl |
| 19:19 |
|
michael |
some pb with IE for Mac... but that's nearly normal |
| 19:19 |
|
michael |
:-( |
| 19:19 |
|
chris |
yeah its very hard to get things to work in IE for the mac |
| 19:20 |
|
michael |
yeap |
| 19:22 |
|
michael |
yes but people who use IE for Mac are like some kings of slaves to me |
| 19:22 |
|
michael |
Voltaire said one day |
| 19:22 |
|
michael |
"Plus les hommes seront informés, plus ils seront libres" |
| 19:22 |
|
michael |
in english "More the people will be informed, more they'll be free" |
| 19:22 |
|
michael |
people who use IE for Mac are not informed about how this browser is bad and don't know Mozilla and cie... |
| 19:22 |
|
michael |
too sad :-( |
| 19:23 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 19:23 |
|
michael |
yep yep |
| 19:23 |
|
michael |
paul isn't in bed yet but i guess he will be asleep soon :-) |
| 19:24 |
|
rach |
he should get into bed before that happnes then :-) |
| 19:24 |
|
michael |
happnes ?? what that means ?? |
| 19:24 |
|
chris |
means rachel was typing to fast :) |
| 19:24 |
|
chris |
should be happens |
| 19:25 |
|
michael |
hum... ok ;-) |
| 19:25 |
|
michael |
... do you know in NZ the italian "ravioli" ??? |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
we sure do |
| 19:26 |
|
chris |
did you have that for lunch? |
| 19:27 |
|
michael |
... that makes my lunch front of the screen for tonight... i finish my work in library at 8 PM every tuesday... hard to believe... |
| 19:27 |
|
michael |
hard but that's how it works in this library... that's good too... but it's late neithertheless :-( |
| 19:28 |
|
chris |
what is your job at the library? |
| 19:29 |
|
michael |
in fact, i'm "discothécaire" (means i take care of the collection of CD / rock, world, rap and soundtracks...) but i'm some kind of geel-librairian too |
| 19:29 |
|
michael |
geek-librairian |
| 19:29 |
|
michael |
(not sure we can say that / not sure of the spell) |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
yep geek-librarian :) |
| 19:30 |
|
chris |
cool, working with the music cd's must be fun also |
| 19:30 |
|
michael |
talking much about linux... not always about music... yes chris you're right too |
| 19:32 |
|
michael |
i also have the "charge" to buy some books... the music books and also the books about computer and programmation... i specially like the O'Reilly ones |
| 19:32 |
|
chris |
yes O'Reilly publish some very good books |
| 19:33 |
|
michael |
and members of the library like it too... |
| 19:33 |
|
michael |
so that's not in vain :-) |
| 19:34 |
|
chris |
thats great |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
about how many patrons/borrowers/users (every library calls them something different) does your library have? |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
and are you on the koha map? |
| 19:35 |
|
chris |
http://koha.org/about/map/europe.html <-- theres the europe bit |
| 19:36 |
|
chris |
if you arent on there and want to be, you can drop me an email with the details and I can add you |
| 19:37 |
|
michael |
about 10 000 borrowers i think |
| 19:37 |
|
chris |
ahh cool |
| 19:38 |
|
michael |
no i'm not in the map... |
| 19:38 |
|
michael |
in Meudon (France, 92) we got about 50 000 biblios (i mean "notices") ... |
| 19:38 |
|
michael |
more items i guess because some documents are buy in several numbers... |
| 19:39 |
|
michael |
i install and test koha for personnal... my library have accept to pay more and to pay a commercial society for the SIGB |
| 19:39 |
|
michael |
this is GEAC... with the Vubismart software... do you know it ? windows only... |
| 19:39 |
|
chris |
ahh yes ive heard of that .. thats a shame |
| 19:41 |
|
michael |
... i make some "stages" in Fontainebleau with Pascale Nalon (Ecole des Mines) and also in ESIEE with Serge Renaux |
| 19:41 |
|
michael |
but they said koha (or any free SIGB in open source) is too young and not enought complete... |
| 19:41 |
|
michael |
they prefer to pay ... than help and develop... and contribute... a shame yes... but i have not a decisionnal position... |
| 19:41 |
|
michael |
can't decide fot the chief of the library :-( |
| 19:42 |
|
chris |
yep thats true, ah well all we can do is keep making koha better and sooner or later people will realise its better :-) |
| 19:42 |
|
michael |
i just can upload some "notices" on my USB removable key and test koha at home... |
| 19:42 |
|
michael |
that works great when you know a little but about Linux and UniMARC |
| 19:43 |
|
chris |
ahh good idea |
| 19:44 |
|
michael |
but i agree to admit it's not so simple and perfect but it's good to undestand "how it work"... |
| 19:44 |
|
michael |
beside i don't know i bit of Perl and MySQL... it works already... |
| 20:20 |
|
JYL57 |
chris, do you know or even use eclipse ?! |
| 20:20 |
|
chris |
cant say that i do |
| 20:20 |
|
chris |
but now im gonna go google for it |
| 20:21 |
|
chris |
eclipse.org ? |
| 20:22 |
|
JYL57 |
yes |
| 20:22 |
|
chris |
hmm looks interesting |
| 20:24 |
|
chris |
we just need an eclipse-perl plugin :) |
| 20:25 |
|
JYL57 |
http://e-p-i-c.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:26 |
|
chris |
ohh i was thinking epic as in my irc client |
| 20:26 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
hmm that does look very interesting |
| 20:27 |
|
chris |
there goes my weekend :) |
| 20:29 |
|
JYL57 |
just finished eclipse install but failed on epic... ;-/ |
| 20:29 |
|
JYL57 |
Will try that tomorrow, going to bed ! |
| 05:50 |
|
Syl_away |
hi all |
| 05:50 |
|
JYL57 |
hello |
| 06:21 |
|
sylvain |
salut paul |
| 06:21 |
|
paul |
(au tel) |
| 06:22 |
|
sylvain |
(au café alors ;)) |
| 06:42 |
|
sylvain |
bon, jvais regarder par rapport à la liste des besoins ENSMP la sortie triée par ordre croissant/décroissant |
| 06:42 |
|
sylvain |
tu ne l'as pas déjà fait paul ? |
| 06:54 |
|
sylvain |
paul ? |
| 06:54 |
|
paul |
(tjs au tel) |
| 06:55 |
|
sylvain |
ok ;) |
| 07:04 |
|
paul |
ca y est, j'ai fini sylvain |
| 07:04 |
|
paul |
cela dit, je ne comprend pas ta question ;-) |
| 07:06 |
|
sylvain |
bon, on dirait que j'ai du mal à me faire comprendre ;) |
| 07:07 |
|
sylvain |
je regardais ton dernier doc envoyé à l'ENSMP le point mars 2005. J'me demandais si la selection dans l'OPAC de l'ordre de sortie des résultats (ascendants et descendant) tu l'avais fait |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
non |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
ce n'est pas très compliqué cela dit. |
| 07:08 |
|
sylvain |
oui je sais ;) |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
mais ca demande un chti changement dans l'API de catalogsearch |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
à faire avec précaution donc. |
| 07:08 |
|
paul |
petit truc : |
| 07:09 |
|
sylvain |
ah, j'ai pas encore été dans les détails |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
après le paramètres $desc_or_asc que tu vas rajouter |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
mettre |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
$desc_or_asc = 'ASC' unless $desc_or_asc |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
si tu mets le paramètre en dernier |
| 07:09 |
|
paul |
il n'y aura pas de risque pour les occurences de catalogsearch que tu aurais oublié de modifier. |
| 07:10 |
|
sylvain |
k |
| 07:10 |
|
paul |
puisque $desc_or_asc ne serait pas passée, et serait donc positionnée à ASC ! |
| 07:11 |
|
paul |
(et le mettre en dernier est OK, puisque ce serait juste après le "orderby", donc logique) |
| 07:11 |
|
sylvain |
ok, bon bein j'vais aller faire ces petites modifs |
| 07:11 |
|
sylvain |
tu as fait d'autres trucs par rapport au doc envoyé a l'ENSMP ? Si t'es pas la cet AM que je sache |
| 07:11 |
|
sylvain |
? |
| 07:33 |
|
paul |
non |
| 07:33 |
|
paul |
(rien fait de plus que le doc envoyé) |
| 07:34 |
|
sylvain |
k |
| 07:41 |
|
sylvain |
et au fait pour le pb que j'avais soulevé hier au niveau des autorités tu veux que j'te le réexpose maintenant ? |
| 08:08 |
|
sylvain |
une petite question rapide avant d'aller manger, les modifs sur les templates OPAC, je dois les faires sur default/en ou j'peux les faire sur CSS (c'est ce que j'ai fait pour le moment, est-ce que je dois reporter dans default/en ? ) |
| 08:13 |
|
sylvain |
sachant que quandje passe en default comme interface, j'ai pas le choix du order by ! |
