IRC log for #koha, 2004-12-16

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11:01 Genji hmm.. too energized. think this Zen master guy actually works. Anyway, Koha cvs, care to step me through setting WinCVS up?
11:12 Genji paul?
11:16 Genji hmm.. too energized. think this Zen master guy actually works. Anyway, Koha cvs, care to step me through setting WinCVS up?
11:19 JYL57_alt Hi Genji
11:19 JYL57_alt Are you using 2.2 already ?!
11:20 Genji using RC3,, yup. going to CVS update to RC4 soon.
11:21 JYL57_alt Good
11:21 JYL57_alt We are cataloguing here with RC4
11:21 Genji hows it going?
11:21 JYL57_alt And have started three weeks of tests...
11:22 JYL57_alt Do you use 'fines management' ?!
11:23 JYL57_alt Quite well with english templates !
11:24 Genji nope. cause our library install isn't used for anything but cataloguing right now.
11:24 JYL57_alt Is it a Public Library ?!
11:27 Genji hmm... kinda. Its a theosophical society library.
11:28 JYL57_alt Hmm, what kind ?!
11:31 JYL57_alt Genji, did you understood the 'Issuing Rules' management ?
11:31 Genji okay, gotta sleep. its 4am here. night.
11:31 JYL57_alt Ok, good night
12:41 kados hi paul, owen
12:41 paul hi joshua & owen
12:41 owen Hi
12:42 kados paul did you see bug 878?
12:42 kados http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=878
12:43 paul no, but now yes ;-)
12:43 kados I imported the database again on our test server and after running updatadatabase I got the same errors with title and author searches as before
12:43 kados :-)
12:43 owen Paul, are you subscribed to the koha-bugs mailing list?
12:43 paul (yes of course)
12:44 paul do you mean that it worked before but not after ?
12:44 paul coz updatedatabase says it did almost nothing
12:45 paul just 3 fields in 3 tables not related to MARC...
12:45 paul so :-(
12:45 paul did you look at marc_subfield_parameters ?
12:45 kados not closely
12:45 kados ... what am I looking for?
12:45 paul look at kohafield field
12:46 paul to see where "biblio.title" is mapped
12:46 paul (or biblio.author)
12:47 paul mmm... are you using a RC4 official or a CVS version ?
12:47 paul cause i made some modifs to Context, that could be related to your problem
12:47 kados I'm using CVS
12:47 kados ahh
12:47 paul but have not been commited
12:47 paul i commit them immediatly
12:47 kados cool
12:48 paul ok, commited
12:48 paul i'm almost sure it's the origin of your problem.
12:49 paul (i made some improvements, but seems I commited only half of the stuff)
12:49 kados cool I'll update
12:53 kados hmmm, still not working
12:53 kados https://opac.athenscounty.lib.[…]ha/opac-search.pl
12:53 kados Q : select distinct m1.bibid from biblio,biblioitems,marc_biblio,marc_word as m1 where biblio.biblionumber=marc_biblio.biblionumber and biblio.biblionumber=biblioitems.biblionumber and m1.bibid=marc_biblio.bibid and (m1.word  like 'cryptonomicon' and m1.tagsubfield in ('bibl')) order by biblio.title at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/SearchMarc.pm line 270., referer: https://opac.athenscounty.lib.[…]ha/opac-search.pl
12:54 kados the 'bibl' is still the problem, eh?
12:54 paul yep
12:55 paul seems Koha can't find the MARC tag connected to "biblio.title"
12:55 paul and thus think it's a MARC tag
12:55 paul and cut it to 4 digits (like 200a)
12:55 paul no idea what it can be due to...
12:55 paul phone ring
12:56 kados hmmm, /me looks at MARC links in intranet:
12:57 kados title  245  a  Title
12:57 kados author  100  a  Personal name
12:57 kados those look fine
12:58 paul mmm... not cool...
12:58 paul you have only 1 framework ?
12:58 kados one framework?
12:58 paul yep, in Koha 2.2 you can define more than 1 framework for MARC editor
12:58 kados what's framework?
12:58 paul to catalog differently a monography, a serial, an old book...
12:59 paul Koha >> parameters >> biblio frameworks
12:59 paul you have "default", that is the 2.0 framework imported
12:59 paul and you can define other frameworks from here
12:59 kados which template is right: default or css?
13:00 paul i have really no idea where your problem comes from
13:00 paul for opac, it's css
13:00 paul BUT : in librarian interface, the css does not exist, so default is used instead automatically
13:00 kados we have default framework  ... but no code
13:01 paul as expected
13:01 paul hello tim
13:01 kados so how do I fix this problem ?
13:01 kados do I need to add a code?
13:01 paul ???
13:02 paul no, there is no problem
13:02 paul default framework is the one without code ;-)
13:02 kados I have Code: Description: Default framework
13:02 kados nothing in the Code column
13:02 paul as expected.
13:02 kados ok
13:02 paul ;-)
13:02 kados :-)
13:02 paul i have no idea...
13:03 kados well our database may be strange because of already having marc_word ...
13:03 kados it's hybrid between 2.0 and 2.2
13:03 kados I wonder if that's where the problem lies
13:03 paul your problem comes from :
13:03 paul C4/Biblio.pm
13:04 paul sub MARCfind_marc_from_kohafield {
13:04 paul    my ( $dbh, $kohafield,$frameworkcode ) = @_;
13:04 paul    return 0, 0 unless $kohafield;
13:04 paul my $relations = C4::Context->marcfromkohafield;
13:04 paul return ($relations->{$frameworkcode}->{$kohafield}->[0],​$relations->{$frameworkcode}->{$kohafield}->[1]);
13:04 paul MARCfind_marc_from_kohafield must be this one.
13:04 paul check what it returns
13:04 paul it it returns empty values when kohafield=biblio.title or biblio.author
13:04 paul then you must investigate here
13:06 kados will this do:
13:06 kados use Data::Dumper;
13:06 kados die Dumper $relations->{$frameworkcode}->{$kohafield}->[0],​$relations->{$frameworkcode}->{$kohafield}->[1])
13:12 tim hi paul
13:12 tim everyone else
13:13 JYL57 Hi tim
13:18 kados msg owen we don't have much money ... but we do have the ability to display ads ...
13:18 kados oops :-)
13:18 kados trixy /
13:24 tim Don't ya hate when that happens kados?
13:24 kados hehe
13:25 paul like this /mst kados .
13:26 kados so how do we turn it off?
13:26 kados hehe
13:28 paul ctrl-w on my Ksirc
13:28 paul dunno for you
13:29 kados paul what's the best way for me to dump that data out (I can't get Data::Dumper to display anything
13:29 paul print "xxxx" ;-)
13:30 kados hehe
13:31 kados hmmm ... in Biblio.pm I put:
13:31 kados print "($relations->{$frameworkcode}->{$kohafield}->[0],​$relations->{$frameworkcode}->{$kohafield}->[1])";
13:31 kados and in the log I get nothing
13:32 paul warn maybe ?
13:32 paul warn "xxx"
13:32 paul prints to stderr
13:32 paul while print prints to stdout
13:32 paul and it's stderr that is in errorlog !
13:33 kados hmmm still not getting anything
13:35 paul nothing or an empty line ?
13:35 kados nothing
13:35 kados I even tried doing warn "here is the error: \n"
13:35 kados and I don't get that either
13:36 kados but it's the right Biblio.pm cause if I mess up the perl I get an error
13:36 paul so, you're not looking the correct error log ;-)
13:37 kados hmmm no it's the right log (I can see the exact queries I"m using)
13:37 paul so ???
13:37 kados it's the opac-error_log
13:38 kados hmmm ...
13:40 kados nope ... not in any of the logs
13:40 kados how frustrating!
13:41 kados is it possible that our frameworkcode table has problems?
13:42 kados updatedatabase may have ignored some parts of our database because they looked right (even if they are not)
13:42 kados I don't think I did anything with frameworkcode
13:44 kados paul can you send me a database snapshot (all the info on what tables, types, fields, etc. should be in the database) so I can check mine
13:47 paul you can compare the mysql structure of 2.2 with your quite easily
13:47 paul just check misc/koha.mysql
13:47 paul it's an uptodate 2.2 structure
13:48 paul (i updated it just before releasing 2.2.0RC1, and no changes since this release)
16:06 kados owen still around?
16:06 kados could you give me some specific examples of new DVDs that aren't showing up?
16:06 owen yes
16:07 owen Yeah, let me try...
16:14 owen http://66.213.78.77/cgi-bin/ko[…]ail.pl?bib=153774
16:14 owen That one doesn't come up with a title search
16:14 owen ...in the opac.  But it does in the intranet
16:15 kados ok ... I'll check it out
16:17 owen Also: http://66.213.78.77/cgi-bin/ko[…]ail.pl?bib=153569
16:19 kados ok ... I know what the problem is
16:19 kados tagsubfield doesn't exist on that item
16:19 kados so the opac doens't know about it
16:19 kados I'll check my script to see what's going on
16:20 owen Can a search be done to pick up all the items affected by this problem?
16:20 kados yep
16:20 owen I wonder if it's only AV stuff?
16:20 kados Nope the Cornwell item is a book
16:21 owen Oh, right.
16:21 kados I can fix it pretty easily tonight ... I'll just dump the tag and subfield and import them with some perl magic
16:21 kados I can't wait till we are running 2.2
16:21 owen Ah, magic.  Is there anything it can't do?
16:21 kados :-)
16:21 kados write itself :-)
16:22 kados I've got a neat book idea that basically goes like this:
16:22 kados a long time ago ...
16:22 kados people discovered nanotechnology
16:22 kados and used it to assymilate all the other technology
16:22 kados so all that was left was nanobots
16:22 kados and people (techies)
16:23 kados could utter the right phrases to make neat stuff happen
16:23 kados (hence the mages of old)
16:23 kados but something happened
16:23 kados that the techies did not intend
16:23 kados and the nanobots revolted
16:24 kados civilization ended ... and the nanobots became Gods
16:24 kados man served them ... until the nanobots got bored and left
16:24 kados when the nanobots left there was no technology left either
16:25 kados and that's where our myths come from
16:25 owen Pretty good...and there's no evidence because the nanobot revolution ended up depriving humanity of all their trappings of modernity
16:25 kados yep
16:25 owen I like it.
16:26 kados who would use a toaster when you could have nanobots toast your bread for you :-)
16:26 owen Or build toast right from the matter-hopper!
16:26 kados hehe
16:26 kados which looks alot like dust
16:27 kados and responds to voice commands
16:27 owen ...like "Tea!  Earl Grey! Hot!"
16:27 kados hehe
16:28 kados who knows ... maybe the nanobots are still around and noone knows how to operate them
16:28 kados maybe the nanobot revolution was the act of killing the techies off
16:29 kados so they could be Gods
16:29 kados hehe
16:29 owen Hence the old idea that if you know something's true name you had control over it
16:29 kados hehe yep
16:30 kados maybe the nanobots are still around and if we knew the right words we could control them
16:30 kados a kind of "back door command console"
16:30 kados overide their AI
16:30 kados or their free will :-)
16:30 kados :-)
16:33 owen Now you've just got to figure out how to make that either into a ripping yarn or a very profitable religion.
16:34 kados hehe
16:34 kados well the sequel is about modern nanobots discovering the truth about the past nanobots
16:36 kados hey owen ... could you take a look at the latest manifestation of my cinci templates?
16:36 kados opac.athenscounty.lib.oh.us
16:37 owen Sure
16:37 kados tell me what you think (everything's basically done except the items in red font)
16:37 rach howdy
16:37 kados hi rach
16:37 kados mind you only the keyword search works cause of the BIblio.pm prob
16:38 kados cool
16:38 kados I'd like to come up with a master template that utilized css to the max
16:38 kados then templating would be writing css rather than html
16:39 owen Mine should be pretty close, but there's still a lot you have to do to the HTML to get some of the more complex layouts (3 columns, etc)
16:39 kados I want to do everything with includes
16:39 kados hmmm ... my site uses css for the 3column layout ;-)
16:40 kados so includes: header, masthead, gatewaybar, maincontent, rightcontent, leftcontent, footer
16:41 owen sure, but there has to be a framework of objects to hang the layout on.
16:41 owen And some layouts need more divs than others
16:41 kados ooh I've got to go
16:44 rach Owen I agree - I suspect that if you want to do more than change the colours (and lets face it don't we always :-) then you're in playing with the HTML
16:45 rach we usually do the includes around the other way - so the content is on the page, and the template is included around it
16:46 rach we've found (in 18months when you've forgotten whatever your cunning plan at the time was) that it's easier to start with the page/content, and hunt up the template includes, than the other way around
16:49 owen It's very hard to get started with a design that's too heavily dependent on includes.
16:49 owen I often have to grab a snapshot of the source code from the browser and work backwards
16:54 rach yeah it is hard
16:54 rach we did get into the habit of putting comments in the includes
16:54 rach so that when you looked at the compliled page, you could see when the includes started and finished
16:55 rach like <!--header include-->
16:55 rach <!--end of header include
16:55 rach <!--title inclued-->
16:55 rach etc
16:55 rach we found it made it a bit easier to work out what was going on
16:56 rach and then which include you needed to change :-)
18:27 pate hiya, long time no see
18:27 chris heya pate :)
18:27 owen pate!  wb!
18:28 pate how're things in the wide world of Koha?
18:28 pate hiya owen
18:32 owen The wide world of Koha moves too slow!  We need more developers!
18:32 owen ...who want to add the things /i/ want!
18:33 pate owen, some things never change ;)
18:33 owen :)
18:42 chris cya later pate
18:47 rach hey that's cool
18:47 rach pat dropping in :-)
18:51 owen It was a whirlwind tour
18:51 kados hey guys
18:59 JYL57 hello
19:00 JYL57 could someone remind me how to find who has borrowed which item ?!
19:01 JYL57 I think I read something about that some times ago
19:03 JYL57 Ok, I've my answer !
19:05 JYL57 Bye
19:15 kados It'd be nice to be able to change the opac template FROM THE OPAC ... owen did I understand that your're working on that?
19:16 owen Well, I'm building an alternate stylesheet so that users can switch them on their own, through their browser (which isn't always easy)
19:16 kados ahh
19:16 kados sortof like zen garden
19:16 owen But it would be easy to build a 'large print' version of the opac and offer it that way.  You could also build a stylesheet switching widget into the site itself.
19:17 kados yea large print, kids, PDA, ...
19:18 owen I'm sure there are better examples, but if you point Firefox at http://www.zeldman.com you can see some alternate stylesheets listed under the View > Page Style menu
19:20 owen Just because this is possible doesn't mean it's easy for the user to accomplish, though, which is the disadvantage.
19:21 chris thats why i reckon having a little button like the change language might be easier?
19:21 kados yea ... owen I can't find the "view" link on that page
19:21 kados :-)
19:22 owen It's in the browser's file menu
19:23 kados ahh I see
19:23 kados neat
19:24 kados owen what's involved in generating a page like oplin's firstsearch?
19:25 kados where the content is aggrogated from multiple sources?
19:25 owen You mean like building our own?
19:25 kados yep
19:25 kados it seems like it would n't be too hard
19:26 owen I suppose they must be querying those various resources for returns in some alternate format like XML and then aggregating it and outputing it all together.
19:26 kados if we had a perl script that grabbed content and pulled it into a single document ...
19:26 owen But you'd have to figure out how to grab information for a lot of different databases, work with a lot of different vendors.
19:26 kados I guess ideally oplin would have some way of querying their database api and getting xml instead of html
19:27 kados hmmm, well I
19:27 kados was just thinking about three or four
19:27 kados our opac, oplin first search, google scholar, google itself
19:28 kados we could have checkboxes in advanced search for each of those
19:28 kados just a thought
19:28 owen If first search could return xml you'd be halfway there
19:28 owen Because they'd do a lot of aggregating for us
19:29 kados so are they doing the page update with javascript ?
19:29 kados I like the fact that I don't have to wait for the whole result set
19:31 owen I don't know...are you sure you're not just seeing the progressive download by the browser?
19:32 kados hmm, maybe ... if that's the case then their search is blindingly fast
19:32 kados I get the impression that it's displaying things as they are resolved
19:32 kados but that might not be the way it works
19:34 kados webfeat is the engine the're using
19:34 owen I don't see anything in the source that suggests that, but I could be wrong.
23:52 Genji hiya all.
23:52 Genji question, how do i set up a cvsclient for koha?
23:55 chris for windows?
23:55 chris if so, no idea
23:56 chris sourceforge probably has some documentation
23:57 Genji whats the unix path, host name, and cvsroot?
23:58 chris http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=16466
01:27 kados Genji if you're running redhat use 'yum install cvs' if debian 'apt-get install cvs'
02:53 kados anyone about?
02:53 kados I've got a really strange problem on the production machine
02:54 kados as far as I know everything has been running fine ... then I noticed that our test opac machines were having problems with title and author searches
02:54 kados now the production machine is seemingly having the same problems
02:54 kados in the opac error log I have:
02:54 kados DBD::mysql::st execute failed: You have an error in your SQL syntax.  Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'group by biblio.biblionumber order by title' at line 1 at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules/C4/Search.pm line 1237.
02:59 chris hmm
03:00 chris line 1237
03:00 chris whats that in ur module
03:00 kados        $sth->execute(@bind);
03:01 chris what version of koha
03:01 kados it's a hybrid between 2.0 (intranet) and 2.2 (opac)
03:01 chris can u look at the version string of the module?
03:02 chris ah crap
03:02 kados wait a sec ... now it's working ...
03:02 chris it doesnt have a correct version number set
03:02 kados I don't get it ... I didn't change a thing
03:02 kados what doesn't?
03:03 chris the module
03:03 chris its nothing to do with the problem its just annoying
03:03 kados ahh
03:03 chris ill change that
03:04 chris you could whack a
03:04 kados so I have this script that I run periodically to concat tag and subfieldid to tagsubfield in marc_word
03:04 chris warn ($query);
03:04 chris before the execute
03:04 kados will do
03:07 kados ahh I know what's going on
03:07 kados we've got the replecated machine trying to catch up still
03:07 kados I just ran that script so it's taking a while for it to finish updating
03:08 kados stupid me
03:11 chris thanks for answering the random koha query on the list
03:25 kados np
03:26 kados random is right ? I thought at first it might be a prank (or even spam ;-))
03:26 kados I'm thinking: is koha that big now that it's showing up in spam?
03:26 kados hehe
03:27 chris :)
03:47 kados chris I'd like to find the total number of distinct words in marc_word ...
03:47 kados select distinct count(*) from marc_word;
03:48 kados gives the same number as without the distinct
03:48 kados select count(*) from marc_word where distinct word;
03:49 kados something like this would be ideal
04:03 chris select count(disctinct(word)) from marc_word;
04:03 chris distinct even
04:04 kados hehe
04:04 kados yea it's been running for the last four minutes ;-)
04:05 kados 5,000,000 rows
04:11 kados wow ... I can't believe it ...
04:11 kados mysql> select count( distinct word ) from marc_word;
04:11 kados +------------------------+
04:11 kados | count( distinct word ) |
04:11 kados +------------------------+
04:11 kados |                 266259 |
04:11 kados +------------------------+
04:11 kados 1 row in set (9 min 16.73 sec)
04:11 kados we need to move to a distinct marc_word ... our query times would be nil
04:11 kados that's insane!
04:12 chris sorry?
04:14 kados ok ... we've got 5,000,000 rows in marc_word
04:14 kados that's where our queries go to in 2.2
04:14 chris right and marc_word has stuff from titles, authors ... what else?
04:14 kados each word in the database appears there
04:15 kados basically everything that we want to search on
04:15 kados there are maybe a dozen marc tags
04:15 chris right that makes sense
04:15 kados but there are only 250,000 distinct words
04:15 chris how many words are there in the enlgish language in common usage?
04:15 kados no idea
04:15 chris cant be much more than that
04:15 kados nope ...
04:16 kados a distinct marc_word table would be really fast
04:16 chris so initially query that
04:16 chris to see if the word exists
04:16 kados it would have every bibid assiciated wtih the word in an array of hashes
04:16 kados bibid => tagsubfield
04:17 kados so you would go select from marc_word where word like "term"
04:17 kados then you would parse out the result based on the tagsubfield
04:17 chris the trick is storing the bibid's in the database
04:18 kados yea and deleting is tough too
04:18 kados but we only do that a little bit
04:18 kados compard to the ammout of queries
04:18 kados say 20 times per day max
04:19 chris i dont know how you would store it
04:20 kados hmmm
04:20 kados well if you're stumped I'm probably in trouble :-)
04:20 chris i dont think you can
04:20 chris all you could do
04:20 kados what about just an array then
04:20 kados a comma seperated value
04:21 chris yeah, then u have the overhead of parsing that
04:21 kados where evens are tagsubfield and odds are bibids
04:21 chris i think you could win a lot of speed
04:21 chris by just doing ur like query over a distinct list
04:21 kados what about storing the whole thing as a single string
04:21 chris eew
04:21 kados with no spaces
04:22 chris that would be horrible to maintain in terms of modifying
04:22 kados and just grabbing chars after the tagsubfield (since all the values are fixed)
04:23 chris how fast is the average search query now?
04:23 kados it's just a simple s/245a102134//
04:23 kados depends on what you search on
04:23 chris so how would this work
04:23 kados it ranges from .5 sec to 8-10 or so
04:23 chris say chris appears 50000 times in marc_word
04:24 kados ahh
04:24 kados hehe that's a real problem :-)
04:24 chris :)
04:24 kados I'd say you're way too popular
04:24 kados (or that you wrote yourself into the database ;-)
04:24 chris heres something to try
04:25 chris select count(*) as wordcount,word from marc_word group by word order by wordcount desc
04:26 chris hmm
04:26 kados should I limit that at all?
04:26 chris and put a limit 10 say
04:26 kados ok
04:26 kados here we go :-)
04:26 chris should give us the top 10 most popular words
04:27 kados our marc_word file was about twice as big before we removed the stop words
04:27 chris i bet lots of them are numbers
04:27 kados    -> limit 0,10;
04:27 kados +-----------+----------+
04:27 kados | wordcount | word     |
04:27 kados +-----------+----------+
04:27 kados |    115424 | /        |
04:27 kados |     53966 | ;        |
04:27 kados |     45281 | s        |
04:27 kados |     42311 | Books    |
04:27 kados |     21336 | AF       |
04:27 kados |     20567 | Press    |
04:27 kados |     18292 | Includes |
04:27 kados |     17568 | E        |
04:27 kados |     16473 | &        |
04:27 kados |     15831 | index    |
04:27 kados +-----------+----------+
04:27 kados 10 rows in set (19.61 sec)
04:27 kados mysql>
04:27 kados so don't search on Books
04:27 chris or /
04:27 chris :)
04:28 kados :-)
04:29 kados hmmm, well it seems like we could get rid of / ; &
04:29 kados not s or E tho
04:29 kados unless we don't care about 'ses
04:29 kados or 's's
04:29 kados hehe that's a common americanism
04:29 chris :)
04:30 kados |     15496 | JNF         |
04:30 kados |     15366 | pa          |
04:30 kados |     14869 | book        |
04:30 kados |     14705 | J           |
04:30 kados |     14427 | new         |
04:30 kados |     14216 | life        |
04:30 kados |     13949 | M           |
04:30 kados |     12978 | Video       |
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04:30 kados so that's a real problem eh?
04:30 kados there must be some way to optimize it though
04:31 chris well doing an exact search is fast i imagine
04:31 kados two small queries are better than one big onw, no?
04:31 chris try this
04:32 chris select count(*) from marc_word where word='Women';
04:32 chris vs
04:32 kados 10388 |
04:32 chris select count(*) from marc_word where word like 'Women%';
04:32 chris how many seconds ?
04:32 kados .05
04:33 kados .04 (but it's in memory)
04:33 kados world:
04:33 kados .05
04:33 kados hmmm these are all running quite fast
04:34 chris maybe we need to get an actual query to try
04:44 kados chris what would be the fastest possible way to print an array as text to apache? (without html::template formatting?
04:45 chris foreach my $value (@array){
04:45 chris print $value;
04:45 chris }
04:46 chris or print "$value<br>";
04:46 chris if you wanted them show one per line
04:46 chris is that what you meant?
04:47 kados well when I try that I get an internal server error
04:47 chris ahh
04:47 chris well
04:47 chris if its the first thing u print ulll need to do something like
04:47 chris use CGI;
04:48 chris my $cgi = new CGI;
04:48 chris print $cgi->header();
04:48 kados ahh
04:48 chris then the foreach
04:48 chris you could just do
04:48 chris print "Content text/html\n\n";
04:48 chris i think thats the syntax
04:49 kados sweet it works
04:49 chris but i forget, and $cgi->header does it nicer
04:52 chris hi paul
04:57 kados wow ... /me is still up when paul gets up :-)
04:57 kados it must be late
04:57 kados er ... early
04:57 chris :)
04:57 kados 2:57am
04:57 kados it's koha related
04:57 chris cool
04:57 kados he'll tell more when he gets it done
04:57 kados it might also be stupid
04:58 kados hehe
04:58 chris hehe
05:01 chris my latest project isnt koha related
05:01 chris and im pretty sure its stupid
05:01 chris but its fun
05:05 chris http://www.justobey.com/
05:10 chris if you have any pictures to add, ur welcome to register and upload them :)
05:45 paul hello kados
05:45 paul & chris too
06:00 paul kados are u still awake ?
06:26 kados paul yes but not for long ;-)
06:26 paul for sure !
06:26 kados hehe
06:26 paul did you solve your problem ?
06:26 kados not yet
06:26 paul (the "bibl" one)
06:26 kados nope
06:26 paul i closed the bug for item deletion, as i'm sure it's the same problem
06:27 paul and i'm sure also it's related to C4::Context modifs
06:27 paul ok, go to bed, we will see ths evening (for me)
06:27 kados sounds good
06:27 kados zzz
06:27 paul i've checked twice everything has been commited
06:27 paul fixing bug 836 now

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