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mtj: ? |
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tcohen++ |
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hi Joubu |
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hello |
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o/ |
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Joubu |
restarting weblate... |
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* cait |
waves good morning |
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marcelr |
hi cait |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
morning all |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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Joubu |
Hum, I have setup emails on Weblate. It's "spamming" me with "Activity on your account at Weblate".. |
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Joubu |
nevermind, it was because of "password reset" tests |
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Joubu |
all good then |
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Joubu |
caroline: did you open a bug for the missing "help" for preservation? |
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Joubu |
mtj: ktd not starting up, I am getting |
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Joubu |
koha-koha-1 | Base class package "Crypt::CBC" is empty. |
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Joubu |
koha-koha-1 | (Perhaps you need to 'use' the module which defines that package first, |
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Joubu |
any recent changes in this area? |
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Joubu |
hum, scratch that! |
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Joubu |
it's working in a new terminal, must have a 21.11 env var set somewhere... |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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Adarsh |
Hello |
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Adarsh |
I just started using Koha API was able to get the Oauth token. How can I use it to query? |
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oleonard |
o/ |
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cait |
Adarsh: did you see api.koha-community.org ? |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
Hmm, it seems that two of our library consortiums have the same id in HEA, which leads them to overwrite each others stats. How do I fix this? |
| 11:30 |
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cait |
maybe you could try to re-register? |
| 11:31 |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
How do I do that? |
| 11:31 |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
I don't think there is a registration process involved here, is there? |
| 11:36 |
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cait |
when you set it up the first time, you request an ID |
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cait |
you could try resetting the usage stats system preferences and turning it off, starting over |
| 11:38 |
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cait |
hm i might confusing it with Mana after all :( |
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cait |
Joubu: do you know how a Hea ID could be reset? |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
<cait> "you could try resetting the..." <- Nope, didn't seem to change the ID ☹️ |
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Joubu |
cait: I *think* you could try to empty UsageStatsID and UsageStatsPublicID |
| 11:47 |
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Joubu |
then another one will be generated |
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Joubu |
KodoKorkalo[m]: what did you try exactly? |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
just switched the UsageStats syspref off, then back on and ran share_usage_stats... with -f -v parameters |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
Joubu: Yep, just found these by checking the C4::UsageStats code, I think this might do the trick |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
UsageStatsPublicID is what contains the library id shown on HEA website, so this must be it |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
Nope, after emptying those I still get the same ID 😄 |
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Joubu |
both values? |
| 11:56 |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
UsageStatsPublicID seems to be null in the database, but the UI still shows the old ID |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
UsageStatsID is the same as it was before |
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Joubu |
you need to restart memcached |
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Joubu |
and so plack |
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Joubu |
if you update the value directly in the DB without using Koha UI |
| 11:59 |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
Hmm, yeah... although maybe for updating just memcached will do |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
share_usage... doesn't go through plack, right? |
| 12:01 |
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Joubu |
if memcached is restarted, plack must be reloaded |
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Joubu |
not for the share_usage script, but the UI |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
oh, ok |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
yeah, for UI sure, but memcached did the trick for updating the ID's |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
now they are new, it's just that the UI is a bit confused about it for now |
| 12:03 |
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Joubu |
it should not if you restarted memcached then plack |
| 12:04 |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
I didn't restart plack yet, I'm not sure I want to do that in the middle of the day, because it seems to cause some problems in libraries. |
| 12:04 |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
It'll be restarted in the night anyway, so I think we'll be able to live with the UI showing wrong ID today |
| 12:05 |
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Joubu |
reload |
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Joubu |
koha-plack --reload $INSTANCE |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
That'll still cause SIPoHTTP devices to drop sometimes |
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Joubu |
maybe, but I don't think so |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
using HTTP(S) as SIP2 transport is not without its quirks 😄 |
| 12:06 |
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Joubu |
who doesn't take risks a Friday afternoon? |
| 12:06 |
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Joubu |
heh, I am kidding, don't do it if you have doubts ;) |
| 12:07 |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
😄 |
| 12:07 |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
The real problem is fixed now, so me happy, thanks a million Joubu and cait 🙂 |
| 12:10 |
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Joubu |
KodoKorkalo[m]: I think you will see the correct value on the UI when the plack's worker will reach the max requests (default is 50) |
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Joubu |
a new worker will start and will populate its L1 cache from memcached |
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KodoKorkalo[m] |
Joubu: Yep, our is higher, but we'll just wait, it's no biggie 🙂 |
| 12:15 |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
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mtj |
i think the matrix bridge is broken again? |
| 12:33 |
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mtj |
hi tcohen |
| 12:34 |
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cait |
it might be, I think tcohen had difficulty last night |
| 12:34 |
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cait |
are we ok to have the release out today? |
| 12:37 |
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mtj |
yep |
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Joubu |
pushing to the main repo |
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Joubu |
all tags pushed, tarballs autogenerated with success \o/ |
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Joubu |
https://snipboard.io/e5fYHR.jpg - on the dashboard |
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cait |
can we do a quick check on bug 35460ß |
| 13:05 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35460 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to add or edit hold rules in circulation rules table |
| 13:05 |
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cait |
Emmi says that there are columns dropped from issuingrules |
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Joubu |
"It did reveal itself to be a bit deeper than the simple bug it appeared to be |
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Joubu |
initially." |
| 13:06 |
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Joubu |
isn't it true for 75% of the bugs? :D |
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cait |
not sure where you got that from, but it makes me shiver |
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cait |
she is right, you can't edit circulation rules |
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cait |
it's not saving, no error |
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cait |
in the GUI |
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cait |
in master |
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cait |
hm... you can change some but not all values... this is odd |
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Joubu |
you are not supposed to find major bugs 2 min after the release is out |
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cait |
sorry? |
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cait |
Emmi is patching it, but yeah, i guess too late... and it's onyl some hold variables right? noone is gong to update to .0 |
| 13:11 |
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magnuse |
cait++ |
| 13:12 |
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Joubu |
it's next RM's responsability anyway now |
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Joubu |
:D |
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cait |
:P |
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cait |
my lessons don't start before Monday I think |
| 13:13 |
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magnuse |
Joubu++ |
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cait |
Joubu++ |
| 13:19 |
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Joubu |
If you think Weblate is awesome, and you want to thanks the maintainer, please consider (you or your boss) donate to the project - https://weblate.org/donate/ |
| 13:20 |
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Joubu |
if we, as a community, can show them we are happy and support them, they will be willing to give back and provide us with enhancements we would like in the future |
| 13:20 |
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Joubu |
https://github.com/WeblateOrg/[…]omment-1836097139 - one more example |
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cait |
it's good thinking |
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cait |
confetti!!!! |
| 13:33 |
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cait |
confetti! |
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cait |
we got a release! |
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magnuse |
@confetti |
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huginn` |
magnuse: I suck |
| 13:38 |
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magnuse |
````````` |
| 13:39 |
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oleonard |
Is wahanui in charge of confetti? |
| 13:40 |
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magnuse |
i think someone had something to do with confetti at some point, at least? |
| 13:40 |
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Joubu |
new features are no longer on top of the release notes, weird |
| 13:40 |
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Joubu |
they get lost |
| 13:40 |
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Joubu |
at the top* |
| 13:41 |
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magnuse |
oleonard: looks like it was wahanui |
| 13:42 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: wow did ptfs-e provide all those new nodes!? |
| 13:44 |
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magnuse |
magic |
| 13:44 |
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Joubu |
tcohen: we have a problem with es - jobs are failing with "bootstrap checks failed" |
| 13:51 |
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Joubu |
Adjusted config for https://jenkins.koha-community[…]b/Koha_21.11_U22/ - it was wget "master" file... |
| 13:51 |
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Joubu |
Readonly for everybody! :D |
| 14:03 |
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caroline |
Joubu: re preservation help, I haven't opened a bug yet |
| 14:03 |
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caroline |
I was a bit swamped by client work, but I wanted to do a little bit of manual today, if I can |
| 14:12 |
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Joubu |
do you want to do it or do you want me to do it? |
| 14:12 |
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caroline |
I wanted to try to do it, so I can learn how it works |
| 14:12 |
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caroline |
is that ok with you? |
| 14:14 |
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Joubu |
yes :) |
| 14:19 |
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magnuse |
caroline++ |
| 14:21 |
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caroline |
congratulations tcohen++ on the release!! |
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cait |
tcohen++ community++ |
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magnuse |
tcohen++ community++ cait++ |
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caroline |
Joubu, I was told once that if I modify a .pm, there needs to be tests, is it the case also for Manual.pm? |
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val[m] |
test? |
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pinkieval |
test2? |
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val[m] |
ashimema: seems to work |
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val[m] |
ah, right |
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val[m] |
your IRC puppet is not connected |
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val[m] |
tell !reconnect to the appservice bot |
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val[m] |
just !connect then |
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ashimema |
!connect |
| 15:00 |
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ashimema |
that gives me No clients connected to this network, not reconnecting |
| 15:00 |
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ashimema |
that gives me command not recognised |
| 15:00 |
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ashimema |
oop |
| 15:01 |
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val[m] |
well, you're out of luck then |
| 15:02 |
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val[m] |
oh you just connected |
| 15:04 |
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cait |
ashimema: we can see you :) |
| 15:04 |
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ashimema |
can you |
| 15:04 |
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cait |
tcohen: are you around? |
| 15:04 |
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ashimema |
aha |
| 15:04 |
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ashimema |
now I can |
| 15:04 |
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ashimema |
I'm still confused |
| 15:05 |
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ashimema |
I see to see a few different oftc-irc users |
| 15:06 |
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ashimema |
thanks val |
| 15:06 |
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ashimema |
ah.. looks like tcohen still isn't there on both sides ☹️ |
| 15:08 |
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ashimema |
correct |
| 15:08 |
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ashimema |
https://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2023-12-01 |
| 15:08 |
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* ashimema |
is using the logs to spot the irc side |
| 15:08 |
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cait |
test? :) |
| 15:09 |
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val[m] |
tcohen: try `!reconnect` to the bot too |
| 15:10 |
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val[m] |
tcohen[m]: yeah... the bridge tends to do that |
| 15:11 |
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ashimema |
looking at the logs I've been chatting all day and not got replies |
| 15:11 |
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ashimema |
and it's becuase of this |
| 15:12 |
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ashimema |
in 'other rooms' do you have an https://matrix.to/#/!mCRcRXuEktwAHTnnHp:matrix.org?via=matrix.org |
| 15:13 |
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ashimema |
try talkig to that user instead.. that one did get me reconnected |
| 15:13 |
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ashimema |
what confuses me is I have no idea how these things plumb together |
| 15:14 |
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ashimema |
but we need this stuff to 'just work' without having to mess about with people having to play with reconnect commands and stuff |
| 15:15 |
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ashimema |
I bet this is also why Joubu has been ignoring my PM's |
| 15:15 |
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ashimema |
grr.. |
| 15:15 |
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val[m] |
I don't expect the matrix bridge will ever "just work" |
| 15:15 |
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val[m] |
it's been like this for years |
| 15:15 |
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val[m] |
various attempts to fix it never made it reliable |
| 15:15 |
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caroline |
if I understand the structure of the Manual.pm file, I don't think I can make a link for this page "preservation/trains/1/items/add", correct? (because of the 1 in the middle) |
| 15:16 |
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caroline |
unless I can put a *? |
| 15:16 |
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val[m] |
ashimema: oh yeah, PMs are particularly nasty because you can't look at logs from the other side |
| 15:16 |
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ashimema |
ok... well thanks anyway val .. that's at least got a couple of us going again.. I think |
| 15:18 |
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ashimema |
sorry caroline |
| 15:18 |
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ashimema |
what do you mean? |
| 15:18 |
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* ashimema |
hasn't tried anything in that feature yet |
| 15:18 |
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caroline |
the 1 is my train number |
| 15:19 |
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ashimema |
yes |
| 15:19 |
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ashimema |
but what do you mean by the link |
| 15:19 |
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ashimema |
how do I try to the page you're trying to get a link to work from |
| 15:20 |
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caroline |
you need to enable preservation, then go to Preservation > Settings and create a processing, then go to Trains, create a train and then add items to that train |
| 15:21 |
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caroline |
so I created a train, (number 1), and when I go to add items to that train, the url is preservation/trains/1/items/add with the train number (1) in the middle |
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caroline |
the manual section is https://koha-community.org/man[…]on.html#add-items |
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caroline |
can I make a link from preservation/trains/*/items/add ? |
| 15:23 |
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Squidy |
Hi.. Is there a way to display the marc field 090$a on OPAC? |
| 15:24 |
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caroline |
Squidy, I think you'd have to modify the XSLT file |
| 15:25 |
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cait |
@marc 090 |
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huginn` |
cait: unknown tag 090 |
| 15:25 |
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cait |
ah right, that's a custom field |
| 15:25 |
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cait |
definitely need to change the XSLT files then |
| 15:25 |
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caroline |
yes, local call number |
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ashimema |
right |
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ashimema |
ok |
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Squidy |
I need to show 090$a near of itemcallnumber |
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ashimema |
took a lot of messing about adding settings and things and getting blocked at every turn |
| 15:26 |
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ashimema |
but I think I've got to the page you mean |
| 15:26 |
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ashimema |
though my 'Add ite to train' page looks very different to the manual |
| 15:26 |
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caroline |
mine is buggy too :/ |
| 15:26 |
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ashimema |
it's jsut a barcode entry box |
| 15:29 |
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caroline |
I *think* those are "custom" fields they created when creating the processing? or train? I can't rememebr |
| 15:29 |
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caroline |
But at one point, you,re asked to create attributes |
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caroline |
I those are the attriobutes |
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caroline |
after you enter the barcode, there is a form with itemnumber, and stuff |
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caroline |
but the point is that the train number is in the middle of the url |
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ashimema |
hmm |
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caroline |
whereas the edit train page is preservation/trains/edit/1 with the 1 at the end, so I can link from preservation/trains/edit/ |
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ashimema |
have you got other links there already working? |
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ashimema |
got a patch your working on? |
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ashimema |
like https://koha-community.org/man[…]ation.html#trains |
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ashimema |
when your on /cgi-bin/koha/preservation/trains |
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caroline |
I'm working on it, but it's not working super well... |
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caroline |
I figured I'd do all the links and then find the problem after (it might have to do with my local installation?) |
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caroline |
but I can add the file to the bug and you can look at it? |
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ashimema |
this is another vue module right |
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caroline |
yes... |
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ashimema |
so it may need some special handling like the erm one does |
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caroline |
I tried to copy the erm links, but there isn't one that has something in the middle, that I could see |
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ashimema |
look around line 310 |
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ashimema |
Joubu strips out the digits in the url there |
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ashimema |
but only for erm |
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caroline |
ah! |
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ashimema |
you should be able to do the same for preservation |
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caroline |
I attached what I have so far in bug 35463 |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, NEW , Link preservation module help to the manual |
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caroline |
I hadn't gone all the way to the bttom |
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caroline |
might explain why my links didn't work |
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ashimema |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33346 |
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Bug 33346: minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Help link to Koha manual in ERM module |
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ashimema |
take a look at that |
| 15:39 |
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ashimema |
it might help |
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caroline |
thanks ashimema! |
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ashimema |
right.. |
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ashimema |
cait still here? |
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ashimema |
I'll ask the question I asked a few hours ago and she didn't see if she it |
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ashimema |
anyone else getting complaints about bug 34469 |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=34469 blocker, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to oldstable , Modifying an order line of a standing order will delete linked invoice ID |
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caroline |
ashimema, I see your question ;) but I don't have an answer |
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caroline |
(just so you don't think you're invisible again) |
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ashimema |
ok |
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caroline |
our clients are on 23.05.06 I think and I haven't heard of this |
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caroline |
ah no sorry, they're on 22.05.06 so they don,t have it yet |
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caroline |
we're updating a part of them on 23.05.05 in the next few weeks, and the rest in january |
| 15:53 |
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ashimema |
we have customers complaining now that they can't edit these orders |
| 15:53 |
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ashimema |
but of course. that's the point of the patch |
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ashimema |
I'm wondering what i'm missing and how one does ever edit it as needed now |
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caroline |
I wonder if that is what happened to one client, they had orders with status "complete" and no receivedate. It was very weird |
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reiveune |
bye |
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Squidy |
Is there any manual on how to customize XSLT? My changes are not taking effect. |
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aude_c[m] |
Late to the 23.11 release party but I hope there's still time for more virtual confetti! 🎊 |
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aude_c[m] |
tcohen++ |
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aude_c[m] |
community++ |
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ashimema |
what xmas dress shall we give dashboard |
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ashimema |
xmas2018, xmas2016 or christmas |
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* ashimema |
uploaded an image: (564KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]kLTXVrT/image.png > |
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ashimema |
16 ^ |
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uploaded an image: (703KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]DwNHwdt/image.png > |
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ashimema |
18^ |
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* ashimema |
uploaded an image: (349KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]enPROoH/image.png > |
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ashimema |
christmas^ |
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aude_c[m] |
My vote goes to 16! |
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caroline |
I like the blue one, it feels more universal and less christmassy |
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oleonard |
I agree with caroline |
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ashimema |
done |
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ashimema |
might add some snowflakes for good measure |
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caroline |
omg lol |
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ashimema |
https://codepen.io/mblenk/pen/rNKbVab |
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ashimema |
why not 😜 |
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caroline |
we were just talking about snowflakes in one of the opacs and my reaction was "eyes bleeding" |
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caroline |
It just feels "geocities" to me lol |
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cait |
ashimema: why do they complain exactly? |
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cait |
they might not have been aware of the udnerlying bug |
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cait |
if you edited a received entry - which this is about - then it woud actively kill data |
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cait |
and you had no control over it |
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cait |
if it was received, it remained received, but every edit deleted the invoice id |
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cait |
we could make them editable, but I think the proper way is: undo the receive and fix it in the invoice |
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cait |
and if you want to undo the patch, you need to fix the underlying issue of it throwing out any data that is not present in the order form |
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cait |
I would highly recommend not undoing the change for your customers unless you fix this |
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cait |
ashimema++ thanks for the christmas dress :) |
| 16:36 |
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ashimema |
so |
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cait |
ashimema: i'd be interested in waht they want to edit, but the bug was real bad. These received orders with no links to invoices casued a heap of trouble |
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ashimema |
it's to do with serial subscription recieves |
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ashimema |
they really want to edit the monetary fields |
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ashimema |
and have been for years |
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cait |
why? |
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ashimema |
so now that you've blocked that they're angry |
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cait |
but have you checked if what they did before didn't totally break their invoices? |
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ashimema |
well.. they've never noticed breakage in the past |
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ashimema |
they were happy with their workflow |
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cait |
becuase you never look at old invoices |
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cait |
which values do they need to edit and why? |
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cait |
if it is a standing order, they can still edit the open line |
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cait |
I am wondering why they need to change the already received ones |
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cait |
to understand better |
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ashimema |
they used to receive the standing order |
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ashimema |
this created the new orderline |
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cait |
yep |
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ashimema |
with rrp, budegeted cost, gst all as zero |
| 16:39 |
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cait |
so when they receveid it, they put the price, right? |
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ashimema |
they would then go into the line and fix them |
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cait |
but.. why? |
| 16:39 |
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ashimema |
now.. they go into the line and just get your blocking message |
| 16:39 |
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cait |
they put in the actual cost |
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cait |
that shoudl be all they need |
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ashimema |
i have no idea |
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ashimema |
but it angers them that they can't fix the data anymore |
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ashimema |
especially taz |
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ashimema |
tax |
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cait |
I am not saying we could not add something to edit |
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cait |
but I am saying it destroys data if you just undo the change |
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cait |
it needs much more work then |
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ashimema |
I've got a call with Lucy to understand more on Monday |
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ashimema |
I don't know the workflows well enough |
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cait |
I believe it has to do with how we update the order line entry - maybe all things that are not part of the order form get lost |
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cait |
and it will be out of my league |
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cait |
and we might want to pref it or so |
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cait |
if something is received there is certainly libraries that say it shoudl not be able to change it |
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cait |
because it's bad for auditing |
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ashimema |
I think the issue is that budgetted is always zero for these |
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ashimema |
and tax |
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ashimema |
you can't set them at receive time |
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ashimema |
anywho |
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ashimema |
brain is melted for the day |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
they are already in spent at this point |
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cait |
it might have to do something with reporting |
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cait |
we had some older bugs about one should not be able to edit received lines |
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cait |
that's why I say maybe we need to pref it if you want to open it up again, but it will need work in the background because the bug I tried to fix will stil be there |
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cait |
bug 6819 |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6819 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Don't offer cancel order links for received order lines on basket summary |
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cait |
6729 |
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caroline |
cait, would that bug (the one that deletes data) make old received orders pop back in the "late orders" table? I'm having this problem with one client and I keep thinking "they must have done something", old orders just don't appear back again years later |
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caroline |
they say they didn't do anything, but I don't believe them (sorry not sorry) |
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cait |
it#s hard to track mistakes there :( |
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cait |
we have one where the funds just don't add up to the expected amounts and I haven't been able to find the cause |
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cait |
what status have those lines? |
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cait |
the status remained as complete I think |
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cait |
on those |
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caroline |
the status was "complete" |
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cait |
it could be |
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cait |
i mean you could maybe try with the test plan on the bug on an unpatched Koha Version |
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caroline |
but there was no receive date, I can't remember if there was an invoice id on all of them |
| 16:49 |
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cait |
maybe the receive date also gets killed |
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cait |
my impression was that it effected possibly more fields, but I focused on the invoice_id link as this was very prominent |
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caroline |
I updated the receive date to the date in the timestamp (it was a date in 2020 I think) |
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caroline |
it made them go away from the late orders table, but I wasn't very satisfied of this as I couldn't understand the cause |
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cait |
maybe if you know the db you could check if you have empty invoice_ids for orders in "complete" |
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ashimema |
hmm |
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ashimema |
interesting |
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ashimema |
not sure why my snowflakes are off the bottom of the screen |
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cait |
lol |
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caroline |
I'm looking at one example that I copied in the ticket and it doesn't have an invoiceid, but it is "complete" |
| 16:53 |
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cait |
and i thought you had insight on the acq issue :) |
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caroline |
I had noticed, but since I didn't know which invoice it should go to, I didn,t touch it |
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cait |
ashimema: sorry if I talked a bit much. I am happy if you want to change things back, I just don't trust the for oder form for received orders currently. So recommend to do some careful checking there |
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ashimema |
no worries |
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ashimema |
my brain is dead |
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cait |
heh |
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ashimema |
I'll deal with this next week |
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cait |
mine too |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
and I will need to learn RM next week - and we have the German users meeting - and a big German university library I happen to know has their go live :) |
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cait |
so... an empty week |
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caroline |
lol good luck on that very calm week |
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cait |
thank you! :) |
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cait |
have a nice weekend all! |
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oleonard |
I wonder if there's going to be a Catalyst Academy soon |
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caroline |
you have a to-do list for them? |
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oleonard |
Just noticing lots of bugs with the Academy keyword and wondering if I should stop fixing them :) |
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ashimema |
I tend to just use it to generically mark any bug I think should be easyish to work on. I don't expect people to leave them waiting |
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ashimema |
I'll keep adding to the list, haha |
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ashimema |
I use them for my daughter or colleagues here looking to try their hand |
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ashimema |
Feel free to grab them though.. I like when you do as you usually write great test plans and people use the keyword to search to bugs to test too |
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oleonard |
👍🏻 |
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oleonard |
ashimema: davidnind keeps me on my toes by noting all the steps I missed in writing a test plan! |
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ashimema |
Haha, he's amazing |
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ashimema |
He does the same for me.. but I deserve it.. my test plans are often terrible. Not a great example |
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ashimema |
We're really making a concerted effort at the moment to encourage customers to be better community partners.. not just resting 'their stuff', but generally looking at bugzilla and testing all the things 😃.. it's me mission for next year |
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caroline |
one of my goals with kohacon will be to have our clients understand how the community works, etc. We "shield" them a bit from that since there is a language barrier for a lot of them, but it will be good for them to understand how it works in the background |
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caroline |
for the Manual.pm thing, I don't speak perl, so I'm not sure which part of this I'm supposed to change |
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caroline |
if ( $file =~ m|^erm| ) { |
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caroline |
$file =~ s|\d*$||; |
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caroline |
} |
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caroline |
I tried [^erm|^preservation] |
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caroline |
but I think that says "not erm or preservation"? |
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caroline |
Do I make another parenthesis section? |
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caroline |
like this? |
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caroline |
if ( $file =~ m|^erm| ) ($file =~ m|^preservation|) { |
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caroline |
$file =~ s|\d*$||; |
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caroline |
} |
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caroline |
ok I asked my good friend chat and its answer seems ok |
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caroline |
if ($file =~ m|^erm| || $file =~ m|^preservation|) { |
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caroline |
$file =~ s|\d*$||; |
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caroline |
} |
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cait |
looks good |
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cait |
what ar you trying to do? |
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cait |
or where does this go? |
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caroline |
it's in the Manual.pm file |
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cait |
the match is begins with erm |
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cait |
or begins with preservation |
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caroline |
it's a bit that we apparently have to add for the vue modules |
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cait |
ah ok |
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caroline |
otherwise the help links don't work |
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cait |
i tihnk it replaces... numbers with nothing |
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cait |
could that be? |
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caroline |
that would make sense |
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cait |
numbers at the end |
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caroline |
only at the end? |
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caroline |
oh yeah you're right, there's the $ |
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caroline |
I wonder if I could tweak it to make it search for the numbers in the middle too... I'll ask chat and see what it says |
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cait |
is the end not enough for this case? |
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caroline |
it's because I have this preservation/trains/1/items/add |
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caroline |
where the 1 is my train number |
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cait |
hm ok |
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cait |
i tihnk try removing the $? |
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cait |
for that case it suld work, not sure if there can be multiple numbers too |
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caroline |
chat says this |
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caroline |
if ($file =~ m|^erm| || $file =~ m|^preservation|) { |
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caroline |
$file =~ s|/\d+||g; # Remove digits in the middle and trailing digits |
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caroline |
} |
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caroline |
the + should take car if you have more than 9 trains |
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cait |
yes |
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cait |
one or more |
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cait |
i meant if htere is a second group in the link |
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caroline |
theres the g |
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cait |
yes, modifiers |
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cait |
i always forget which is which :) |
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cait |
you are right |
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caroline |
g is for global so it will look everywhere |
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cait |
caroline++ |
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caroline |
do we want that though? what if its like 111.111.111.111/koha/blabla/preservation/trains/1/items/add |
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cait |
i believe file probably doesn't start with the ip |
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cait |
or base url |
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caroline |
ok |
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cait |
or i hope so :) |
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caroline |
well, it works for preservation! Hopefully I didn't break something else |
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caroline |
I was told once that if I change something in a .pm file, I have to write a test, is it also true for Manual.pm? |
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cait |
if you changed a method, likely |
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cait |
if you search for the method with git grep methodname *.t - maybe there is already a file testing it |
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bug 35463 ready to test! phew! I didn't think it'd take ma all day |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, Needs Signoff , Link preservation module help to the manual |
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have a good weekend everyone |
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tcohen++ community++ |
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> Koha version: 23.11.00.000 |
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🎉 |
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