Time  Nick             Message
22:39 tuxayo           🎉
22:39 tuxayo           > Koha version: 	23.11.00.000
22:37 tuxayo           tcohen++ community++
22:00 caroline         have a good weekend everyone
21:54 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, Needs Signoff , Link preservation module help to the manual
21:54 caroline         bug 35463 ready to test! phew! I didn't think it'd take ma all day
20:06 cait             yes
19:48 tcohen[m]        wow, am I online for non-Matrix users now?
19:29 cait             if you search for the method with git grep methodname *.t - maybe there is already a file testing it
19:29 cait             if you changed a method, likely
19:20 caroline         I was told once that if I change something in a .pm file, I have to write a test, is it also true for Manual.pm?
19:17 caroline         well, it works for preservation! Hopefully I didn't break something else
19:14 cait             or i hope so :)
19:14 caroline         ok
19:13 cait             or base url
19:13 cait             i believe file probably doesn't start with the ip
19:13 caroline         do we want that though? what if its like 111.111.111.111/koha/blabla/preservation/trains/1/items/add
19:12 cait             caroline++
19:12 caroline         g is for global so it will look everywhere
19:12 cait             you are right
19:12 cait             i always forget which is which :)
19:11 cait             yes, modifiers
19:11 caroline         theres the g
19:11 cait             i meant if htere is a second group in the link
19:11 cait             one or more
19:11 cait             yes
19:10 caroline         the + should take car if you have more than 9 trains
19:10 caroline         }
19:10 caroline         $file =~ s|/\d+||g;  # Remove digits in the middle and trailing digits
19:10 caroline         if ($file =~ m|^erm| || $file =~ m|^preservation|) {
19:10 caroline         chat says this
19:10 cait             for that case it suld work, not sure if there can be multiple numbers too
19:09 cait             i tihnk try removing the $?
19:09 cait             hm ok
19:09 caroline         where the 1 is my train number
19:09 caroline         it's because I have this preservation/trains/1/items/add
19:09 cait             is the end not enough for this case?
19:07 caroline         I wonder if I could tweak it to make it search for the numbers in the middle too... I'll ask chat and see what it says
19:06 caroline         oh yeah you're right, there's the $
19:06 caroline         only at the end?
19:05 cait             numbers at the end
19:05 caroline         that would make sense
19:05 cait             could that be?
19:05 cait             i tihnk it replaces... numbers with nothing
19:05 caroline         otherwise the help links don't work
19:05 cait             ah ok
19:05 caroline         it's a bit that we apparently have to add for the vue modules
19:04 cait             or begins with preservation
19:04 cait             the match is begins with erm
19:04 caroline         it's in the Manual.pm file
19:04 cait             or where does this go?
19:04 cait             what ar you trying to do?
19:04 cait             looks good
18:56 caroline         }
18:56 caroline         $file =~ s|\d*$||;
18:56 caroline         if ($file =~ m|^erm| || $file =~ m|^preservation|) {
18:56 caroline         ok I asked my good friend chat and its answer seems ok
18:52 caroline         }
18:52 caroline         $file =~ s|\d*$||;
18:52 caroline         if ( $file =~ m|^erm| ) ($file =~ m|^preservation|) {
18:52 caroline         like this?
18:51 caroline         Do I make another parenthesis section?
18:51 caroline         but I think that says "not erm or preservation"?
18:51 caroline         I tried [^erm|^preservation]
18:50 caroline         }
18:50 caroline         $file =~ s|\d*$||;
18:50 caroline         if ( $file =~ m|^erm| ) {
18:50 caroline         for the Manual.pm thing, I don't speak perl, so I'm not sure which part of this I'm supposed to change
18:49 caroline         one of my goals with kohacon will be to have our clients understand how the community works, etc. We "shield" them a bit from that since there is a language barrier for a lot of them, but it will be good for them to understand how it works in the background
18:47 ashimema         We're really making a concerted effort at the moment to encourage customers to be better community partners.. not just resting 'their stuff', but generally looking at bugzilla and testing all the things 😃.. it's me mission for next year
18:45 ashimema         He does the same for me.. but I deserve it.. my test plans are often terrible. Not a great example
18:45 ashimema         Haha, he's amazing
18:33 oleonard         ashimema: davidnind keeps me on my toes by noting all the steps I missed in writing a test plan!
18:33 oleonard         👍đŸģ
18:22 ashimema         Feel free to grab them though.. I like when you do as you usually write great test plans and people use the keyword to search to bugs to test too
18:22 ashimema         I use them for my daughter or colleagues here looking to try their hand
18:22 ashimema         I'll keep adding to the list, haha
18:21 ashimema         I tend to just use it to generically mark any bug I think should be easyish to work on. I don't expect people to leave them waiting
17:38 oleonard         Just noticing lots of bugs with the Academy keyword and wondering if I should stop fixing them :)
17:38 caroline         you have a to-do list for them?
17:37 oleonard         I wonder if there's going to be a Catalyst Academy soon
16:57 cait             have a nice weekend all!
16:57 cait             thank you! :)
16:56 caroline         lol good luck on that very calm week
16:56 cait             so... an empty week
16:56 cait             and I will need to learn RM next week - and we have the German users meeting - and a big German university library I happen to know has their go live :)
16:55 cait             yep
16:55 cait             mine too
16:55 ashimema         I'll deal with this next week
16:55 cait             heh
16:55 ashimema         my brain is dead
16:55 ashimema         no worries
16:55 cait             ashimema: sorry if I talked a bit much. I am happy if you want to change things back, I just don't trust the for oder form for received orders currently. So recommend to do some careful checking there
16:53 caroline         I had noticed, but since I didn't know which invoice it should go to, I didn,t touch it
16:53 cait             and i thought you had insight on the acq issue :)
16:53 caroline         I'm looking at one example that I copied in the ticket and it doesn't have an invoiceid, but it is "complete"
16:53 cait             lol
16:53 ashimema         not sure why my snowflakes are off the bottom of the screen
16:52 ashimema         interesting
16:52 ashimema         hmm
16:51 cait             maybe if you know the db you could check if you have empty invoice_ids for orders in "complete"
16:50 caroline         it made them go away from the late orders table, but I wasn't very satisfied of this as I couldn't understand the cause
16:49 caroline         I updated the receive date to the date in the timestamp (it was a date in 2020 I think)
16:49 cait             my impression was that it effected possibly more fields, but I focused on the invoice_id link as this was very prominent
16:49 cait             maybe the receive date also gets killed
16:49 caroline         but there was no receive date, I can't remember if there was an invoice id on all of them
16:48 cait             i mean you could maybe try with the test plan on the bug on an unpatched Koha Version
16:48 cait             it could be
16:48 caroline         the status was "complete"
16:48 cait             on those
16:48 cait             the status remained as complete I think
16:48 cait             what status have those lines?
16:48 cait             we have one where the funds just don't add up to the expected amounts and I haven't been able to find the cause
16:47 cait             it#s hard to track mistakes there :(
16:47 caroline         they say they didn't do anything, but I don't believe them (sorry not sorry)
16:46 caroline         cait, would that bug (the one that deletes data) make old received orders pop back in the "late orders" table? I'm having this problem with one client and I keep thinking "they must have done something", old orders just don't appear back again years later
16:46 cait             6729
16:45 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6819 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, CLOSED FIXED, Don't offer cancel order links for received order lines on basket summary
16:45 cait             bug 6819
16:45 cait             that's why I say maybe we need to pref it if you want to open it up again, but it will need work in the background because the bug I tried to fix will stil be there
16:44 cait             we had some older bugs about one should not be able to edit received lines
16:44 cait             it might have to do something with reporting
16:44 cait             they are already in spent at this point
16:44 cait             hm
16:42 ashimema         brain is melted for the day
16:42 ashimema         anywho
16:42 ashimema         you can't set them at receive time
16:42 ashimema         and tax
16:42 ashimema         I think the issue is that budgetted is always zero for these
16:41 cait             because it's bad for auditing
16:41 cait             if something is received there is certainly libraries that say it shoudl not be able to change it
16:41 cait             and we might want to pref it or so
16:41 cait             and it will be out of my league
16:41 cait             I believe it has to do with how we update the order line entry - maybe all things that are not part of the order form get lost
16:41 ashimema         I don't know the workflows well enough
16:41 ashimema         I've got a call with Lucy to understand more on Monday
16:40 cait             it needs much more work then
16:40 cait             but I am saying it destroys data if you just undo the change
16:40 cait             I am not saying we could not add something to edit
16:40 ashimema         tax
16:40 ashimema         especially taz
16:40 ashimema         but it angers them that they can't fix the data anymore
16:40 ashimema         i have no idea
16:39 cait             that shoudl be all they need
16:39 cait             they put in the actual cost
16:39 ashimema         now.. they go into the line and just get your blocking message
16:39 cait             but.. why?
16:39 ashimema         they would then go into the line and fix them
16:39 cait             so when they receveid it, they put the price, right?
16:39 ashimema         with rrp, budegeted cost, gst all as zero
16:39 cait             yep
16:39 ashimema         this created the new orderline
16:39 ashimema         they used to receive the standing order
16:38 cait             to understand better
16:38 cait             I am wondering why they need to change the already received ones
16:38 cait             if it is a standing order, they can still edit the open line
16:37 cait             which values do they need to edit and why?
16:37 cait             becuase you never look at old invoices
16:37 ashimema         they were happy with their workflow
16:37 ashimema         well.. they've never noticed breakage in the past
16:37 cait             but have you checked if what they did before didn't totally break their invoices?
16:36 ashimema         so now that you've blocked that they're angry
16:36 cait             why?
16:36 ashimema         and have been for years
16:36 ashimema         they really want to edit the monetary fields
16:36 ashimema         it's to do with serial subscription recieves
16:36 cait             ashimema: i'd be interested in waht they want to edit, but the bug was real bad. These received orders with no links to invoices casued a heap of trouble
16:36 ashimema         so
16:35 cait             ashimema++ thanks for the christmas dress :)
16:33 cait             I would highly recommend not undoing the change for your customers unless you fix this
16:32 cait             and if you want to undo the patch, you need to fix the underlying issue of it throwing out any data that is not present in the order form
16:31 cait             we could make them editable, but I think the proper way is: undo the receive and fix it in the invoice
16:31 cait             if it was received, it remained received, but every edit deleted the invoice id
16:31 cait             and you had no control over it
16:31 cait             if you edited a received entry - which this is about - then it woud actively kill data
16:30 cait             they might not have been aware of the udnerlying bug
16:30 cait             ashimema: why do they complain exactly?
16:24 caroline         It just feels "geocities" to me lol
16:23 caroline         we were just talking about snowflakes in one of the opacs and my reaction was "eyes bleeding"
16:23 ashimema         why not 😜
16:23 ashimema         https://codepen.io/mblenk/pen/rNKbVab
16:23 caroline         omg lol
16:23 ashimema         might add some snowflakes for good measure
16:22 ashimema         done
16:21 oleonard         I agree with caroline
16:20 caroline         I like the blue one, it feels more universal and less christmassy
16:20 aude_c[m]        My vote goes to 16!
16:19 ashimema         christmas^
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16:19 ashimema         18^
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16:19 ashimema         16 ^
16:18 * ashimema       uploaded an image: (564KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v3/download/matrix.org/NpPCmOGWoLhkKjjDZkLTXVrT/image.png >
16:18 ashimema         xmas2018, xmas2016 or christmas
16:18 ashimema         what xmas dress shall we give dashboard
16:09 aude_c[m]        community++
16:09 aude_c[m]        tcohen++
16:08 aude_c[m]        Late to the 23.11 release party but I hope there's still time for more virtual confetti! 🎊
16:06 Squidy           Is there any manual on how to customize XSLT? My changes are not taking effect.
16:02 reiveune         bye
15:55 caroline         I wonder if that is what happened to one client, they had orders with status "complete" and no receivedate. It was very weird
15:53 ashimema         I'm wondering what i'm missing and how one does ever edit it as needed now
15:53 ashimema         but of course. that's the point of the patch
15:53 ashimema         we have customers complaining now that they can't edit these orders
15:52 caroline         we're updating a part of them on 23.05.05 in the next few weeks, and the rest in january
15:52 caroline         ah no sorry, they're on 22.05.06 so they don,t have it yet
15:51 caroline         our clients are on 23.05.06 I think and I haven't heard of this
15:50 ashimema         ok
15:50 caroline         (just so you don't think you're invisible again)
15:50 caroline         ashimema, I see your question ;) but I don't have an answer
15:45 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=34469 blocker, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Pushed to oldstable , Modifying an order line of a standing order will delete linked invoice ID
15:45 ashimema         anyone else getting complaints about bug 34469
15:44 ashimema         I'll ask the question I asked a few hours ago and she didn't see if she it
15:44 ashimema         cait still here?
15:44 ashimema         right..
15:40 caroline         thanks ashimema!
15:39 ashimema         it might help
15:39 ashimema         take a look at that
15:39 huginn`          04Bug 33346: minor, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, RESOLVED FIXED, Add Help link to Koha manual in ERM module
15:39 ashimema         https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=33346
15:39 caroline         might explain why my links didn't work
15:38 caroline         I hadn't gone all the way to the bttom
15:38 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35463 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, caroline.cyr-la-rose, NEW , Link preservation module help to the manual
15:37 caroline         I attached what I have so far in bug 35463
15:37 ashimema         you should be able to do the same for preservation
15:37 caroline         ah!
15:37 ashimema         but only for erm
15:37 ashimema         Joubu strips out the digits in the url there
15:37 ashimema         look around line 310
15:35 caroline         I tried to copy the erm links, but there isn't one that has something in the middle, that I could see
15:35 ashimema         so it may need some special handling like the erm one does
15:35 caroline         yes...
15:35 ashimema         this is another vue module right
15:35 caroline         but I can add the file to the bug and you can look at it?
15:34 caroline         I figured I'd do all the links and then find the problem after (it might have to do with my local installation?)
15:34 caroline         I'm working on it, but it's not working super well...
15:33 ashimema         when your on /cgi-bin/koha/preservation/trains
15:33 ashimema         like https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/preservation.html#trains
15:33 ashimema         got a patch your working on?
15:33 ashimema         have you got other links there already working?
15:32 caroline         whereas the edit train page is preservation/trains/edit/1 with the 1 at the end, so I can link from preservation/trains/edit/
15:32 ashimema         hmm
15:30 caroline         but the point is that the train number is in the middle of the url
15:29 caroline         after you enter the barcode, there is a form with itemnumber, and stuff
15:29 caroline         I those are the attriobutes
15:29 caroline         But at one point, you,re asked to create attributes
15:29 caroline         I *think* those are "custom" fields they created when creating the processing? or train? I can't rememebr
15:26 ashimema         it's jsut a barcode entry box
15:26 caroline         mine is buggy too :/
15:26 ashimema         though my 'Add ite to train' page looks very different to the manual
15:26 ashimema         but I think I've got to the page you mean
15:25 ashimema         took a lot of messing about adding settings and things and getting blocked at every turn
15:25 Squidy           I need to show 090$a near of itemcallnumber
15:25 ashimema         ok
15:25 ashimema         right
15:25 caroline         yes, local call number
15:25 cait             definitely need to change the XSLT files then
15:25 cait             ah right, that's a custom field
15:25 huginn`          cait: unknown tag 090
15:25 cait             @marc 090
15:24 caroline         Squidy, I think you'd have to modify the XSLT file
15:23 Squidy           Hi.. Is there a way to display the marc field 090$a on OPAC?
15:23 caroline         can I make a link from preservation/trains/*/items/add ?
15:22 caroline         the manual section is https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/preservation.html#add-items
15:21 caroline         so I created a train, (number 1), and when I go to add items to that train, the url is preservation/trains/1/items/add with the train number (1) in the middle
15:20 caroline         you need to enable preservation, then go to Preservation > Settings and create a processing, then go to Trains, create a train and then add items to that train
15:19 ashimema         how do I try to the page you're trying to get a link to work from
15:19 ashimema         but what do you mean by the link
15:19 ashimema         yes
15:18 caroline         the 1 is my train number
15:18 * ashimema       hasn't tried anything in that feature yet
15:18 ashimema         what do you mean?
15:18 ashimema         sorry caroline
15:16 ashimema         ok... well thanks anyway val .. that's at least got a couple of us going again.. I think
15:16 val[m]           ashimema: oh yeah, PMs are particularly nasty because you can't look at logs from the other side
15:16 caroline         unless I can put a *?
15:15 caroline         if I understand the structure of the Manual.pm file, I don't think I can make a link for this page "preservation/trains/1/items/add", correct? (because of the 1 in the middle)
15:15 val[m]           various attempts to fix it never made it reliable
15:15 val[m]           it's been like this for years
15:15 val[m]           I don't expect the matrix bridge will ever "just work"
15:15 ashimema         grr..
15:15 ashimema         I bet this is also why Joubu has been ignoring my PM's
15:14 ashimema         but we need this stuff to 'just work' without having to mess about with people having to play with reconnect commands and stuff
15:13 ashimema         what confuses me is I have no idea how these things plumb together
15:13 ashimema         try talkig to that user instead.. that one did get me reconnected
15:12 ashimema         in 'other rooms' do you have an https://matrix.to/#/!mCRcRXuEktwAHTnnHp:matrix.org?via=matrix.org
15:11 ashimema         and it's becuase of this
15:11 ashimema         looking at the logs I've been chatting all day and not got replies
15:10 val[m]           tcohen[m]: yeah... the bridge tends to do that
15:09 val[m]           tcohen: try `!reconnect` to the bot too
15:08 cait             test? :)
15:08 * ashimema       is using the logs to spot the irc side
15:08 ashimema         https://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2023-12-01
15:08 ashimema         correct
15:06 ashimema         ah.. looks like tcohen still isn't there on both sides ☚ī¸
15:06 ashimema         thanks val
15:05 ashimema         I see to see a few different oftc-irc users
15:04 ashimema         I'm still confused
15:04 ashimema         now I can
15:04 ashimema         aha
15:04 cait             tcohen: are you around?
15:04 ashimema         can you
15:04 cait             ashimema: we can see you :)
15:02 val[m]           oh you just connected
15:01 val[m]           well, you're out of luck then
15:00 ashimema         oop
15:00 ashimema         that gives me command not recognised
15:00 ashimema         that gives me No clients connected to this network, not reconnecting
15:00 ashimema         !connect
14:57 val[m]           just !connect then
14:54 val[m]           tell !reconnect to the appservice bot
14:54 val[m]           your IRC puppet is not connected
14:54 val[m]           ah, right
14:51 val[m]           ashimema: seems to work
14:51 pinkieval        test2?
14:51 val[m]           test?
14:46 caroline         Joubu, I was told once that if I modify a .pm, there needs to be tests, is it the case also for Manual.pm?
14:31 magnuse          tcohen++ community++ cait++
14:31 cait             tcohen++ community++
14:21 caroline         congratulations tcohen++ on the release!!
14:19 magnuse          caroline++
14:14 Joubu            yes :)
14:12 caroline         is that ok with you?
14:12 caroline         I wanted to try to do it, so I can learn how it works
14:12 Joubu            do you want to do it or do you want me to do it?
14:03 caroline         I was a bit swamped by client work, but I wanted to do a little bit of manual today, if I can
14:03 caroline         Joubu: re preservation help, I haven't opened a bug yet
13:51 Joubu            Readonly for everybody! :D
13:51 Joubu            Adjusted config for https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_21.11_U22/ - it was wget "master" file...
13:44 Joubu            tcohen: we have a problem with es - jobs are failing with "bootstrap checks failed"
13:44 magnuse          magic
13:42 Joubu            ashimema: wow did ptfs-e provide all those new nodes!?
13:41 magnuse          oleonard: looks like it was wahanui
13:40 Joubu            at the top*
13:40 Joubu            they get lost
13:40 Joubu            new features are no longer on top of the release notes, weird
13:40 magnuse          i think someone had something to do with confetti at some point, at least?
13:39 oleonard         Is wahanui in charge of confetti?
13:38 magnuse          `````````
13:38 huginn`          magnuse: I suck
13:38 magnuse          @confetti
13:33 cait             we got a release!
13:33 cait             confetti!
13:33 cait             confetti!!!!
13:30 cait             it's good thinking
13:20 Joubu            https://github.com/WeblateOrg/weblate/issues/10508#issuecomment-1836097139 - one more example
13:20 Joubu            if we, as a community, can show them we are happy and support them, they will be willing to give back and provide us with enhancements we would like in the future
13:19 Joubu            If you think Weblate is awesome, and you want to thanks the maintainer, please consider (you or your boss) donate to the project - https://weblate.org/donate/
13:13 cait             Joubu++
13:13 magnuse          Joubu++
13:12 cait             my lessons don't start before Monday I think
13:12 cait             :P
13:12 Joubu            :D
13:12 Joubu            it's next RM's responsability anyway now
13:11 magnuse          cait++
13:11 cait             Emmi is patching it, but yeah, i guess too late... and it's onyl some hold variables right? noone is gong to update to .0
13:10 cait             sorry?
13:10 Joubu            you are not supposed to find major bugs 2 min after the release is out
13:09 cait             hm... you can change some but not all values... this is odd
13:08 cait             in master
13:08 cait             in the GUI
13:08 cait             it's not saving, no error
13:08 cait             she is right, you can't edit circulation rules
13:07 cait             not sure where you got that from, but it makes me shiver
13:06 Joubu            isn't it true for 75% of the bugs? :D
13:06 Joubu            initially."
13:06 Joubu            "It did reveal itself to be a bit deeper than the simple bug it appeared to be
13:05 cait             Emmi says that there are columns dropped from issuingrules
13:05 huginn`          04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35460 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to add or edit hold rules in circulation rules table
13:05 cait             can we do a quick check on bug 35460ß
12:54 Joubu            https://snipboard.io/e5fYHR.jpg - on the dashboard
12:53 Joubu            all tags pushed, tarballs autogenerated with success \o/
12:45 Joubu            pushing to the main repo
12:37 mtj              yep
12:34 cait             are we ok to have the release out today?
12:34 cait             it might be, I think tcohen had difficulty last night
12:33 mtj              hi tcohen
12:30 mtj              i think the matrix bridge is broken again?
12:15 cait             Joubu++
12:15 cait             :)
12:11 KodoKorkalo[m]   Joubu: Yep, our is higher, but we'll just wait, it's no biggie 🙂
12:11 Joubu            a new worker will start and will populate its L1 cache from memcached
12:10 Joubu            KodoKorkalo[m]: I think you will see the correct value on the UI when the plack's worker will reach the max requests (default is 50)
12:07 KodoKorkalo[m]   The real problem is fixed now, so me happy, thanks a million Joubu and cait 🙂
12:07 KodoKorkalo[m]   😄
12:06 Joubu            heh, I am kidding, don't do it if you have doubts ;)
12:06 Joubu            who doesn't take risks a Friday afternoon?
12:06 KodoKorkalo[m]   using HTTP(S) as SIP2 transport is not without its quirks 😄
12:06 Joubu            maybe, but I don't think so
12:05 KodoKorkalo[m]   That'll still cause SIPoHTTP devices to drop sometimes
12:05 Joubu            koha-plack --reload $INSTANCE
12:05 Joubu            reload
12:04 KodoKorkalo[m]   It'll be restarted in the night anyway, so I think we'll be able to live with the UI showing wrong ID today
12:04 KodoKorkalo[m]   I didn't restart plack yet, I'm not sure I want to do that in the middle of the day, because it seems to cause some problems in libraries.
12:03 Joubu            it should not if you restarted memcached then plack
12:02 KodoKorkalo[m]   now they are new, it's just that the UI is a bit confused about it for now
12:02 KodoKorkalo[m]   yeah, for UI sure, but memcached did the trick for updating the ID's
12:01 KodoKorkalo[m]   oh, ok
12:01 Joubu            not for the share_usage script, but the UI
12:01 Joubu            if memcached is restarted, plack must be reloaded
12:00 KodoKorkalo[m]   share_usage... doesn't go through plack, right?
11:59 KodoKorkalo[m]   Hmm, yeah... although maybe for updating just memcached will do
11:57 Joubu            if you update the value directly in the DB without using Koha UI
11:57 Joubu            and so plack
11:57 Joubu            you need to restart memcached
11:56 KodoKorkalo[m]   UsageStatsID is the same as it was before
11:56 KodoKorkalo[m]   UsageStatsPublicID seems to be null in the database, but the UI still shows the old ID
11:55 Joubu            both values?
11:55 KodoKorkalo[m]   Nope, after emptying those I still get the same ID 😄
11:52 KodoKorkalo[m]   UsageStatsPublicID is what contains the library id shown on HEA website, so this must be it
11:51 KodoKorkalo[m]   Joubu: Yep, just found these by checking the C4::UsageStats code, I think this might do the trick
11:50 KodoKorkalo[m]   just switched the UsageStats syspref off, then back on and ran share_usage_stats... with -f -v parameters
11:48 Joubu            KodoKorkalo[m]: what did you try exactly?
11:47 Joubu            then another one will be generated
11:47 Joubu            cait: I *think* you could try to empty UsageStatsID and UsageStatsPublicID
11:45 KodoKorkalo[m]   <cait> "you could try resetting the..." <- Nope, didn't seem to change the ID ☚ī¸
11:39 cait             Joubu: do you know how a Hea ID could be reset?
11:38 cait             hm i might confusing it with Mana after all :(
11:37 cait             you could try resetting the usage stats system preferences and turning it off, starting over
11:36 cait             when you set it up the first time, you request an ID
11:31 KodoKorkalo[m]   I don't think there is a registration process involved here, is there?
11:31 KodoKorkalo[m]   How do I do that?
11:30 cait             maybe you could try to re-register?
11:29 KodoKorkalo[m]   Hmm, it seems that two of our library consortiums have the same id in HEA, which leads them to overwrite each others stats. How do I fix this?
11:28 cait             Adarsh: did you see api.koha-community.org ?
11:23 oleonard         o/
11:18 Adarsh           I just started using Koha API was able to get the Oauth token. How can I use it to query?
11:13 Adarsh           Hello
10:15 cait             Joubu++
10:14 Joubu            it's working in a new terminal, must have a 21.11 env var set somewhere...
10:13 Joubu            hum, scratch that!
10:11 Joubu            any recent changes in this area?
10:11 Joubu            koha-koha-1       |     (Perhaps you need to 'use' the module which defines that package first,
10:11 Joubu            koha-koha-1       | Base class package "Crypt::CBC" is empty.
10:11 Joubu            mtj: ktd not starting up, I am getting
09:23 Joubu            caroline: did you open a bug for the missing "help" for preservation?
09:22 Joubu            all good then
09:22 Joubu            nevermind, it was because of "password reset" tests
09:22 Joubu            Hum, I have setup emails on Weblate. It's "spamming" me with "Activity on your account at Weblate"..
08:33 magnuse          \o/
08:33 krimsonkharne[m] morning all
08:20 marcelr          hi cait
08:12 * cait           waves good morning
07:57 Joubu            restarting weblate...
07:18 marcelr          o/
07:03 reiveune         hello
06:50 mtj              hi Joubu
06:00 Joubu            tcohen++
05:41 Joubu            mtj: ?