IRC log for #koha, 2023-11-01

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03:49 Danyon Hello all, I'm the release maintainer for 21.11.x branch of Koha and i'm having an issue generating release notes, I believe i've run into this in the past but cannot remember for the life of me what the fix was. When attempting to generate the markdown notes I get the following errors
03:49 Danyon Use of uninitialized value $version in say at /home/danyonsewell/projects/kohaclone​/../release-tools/lib/Koha/Release.pm line 35.
03:49 Danyon Use of uninitialized value $version in split at /home/danyonsewell/projects/kohaclone​/../release-tools/lib/Koha/Release.pm line 36.
03:50 Danyon No usable version at /home/danyonsewell/projects/kohaclone​/../release-tools/lib/Koha/Release.pm line 37.
03:50 mtj hi Danyon, whats the command you are using?
03:50 Danyon Have double checked the release-tools remote is up to date and am sitting on the correct branch
03:51 Danyon ../release-tools/bin/koha-release v21.11.24..HEAD notes
03:53 mtj hmm, that does seem ok
03:55 Danyon Yeah from memory i've run into this issue every time i've attempted to generate notes for a new release, my own mistake for not documenting what the fix was
03:55 mtj Danyon: you have a v21.11.24 tag in your repo?
03:56 Danyon I don't yet, that was next on the list of things to do
03:56 Danyon oh sorry ignore me, yes i have a v21.11.24 tag
03:59 mtj https://gitlab.com/koha-community/release-tools
03:59 mtj export PROJECTS_DIR=~/git
03:59 mtj Danyon: is your PROJECTS_DIR set?
04:01 mtj aah, its a docker version - which i havent used myself..
04:01 mtj Danyon: are you using a dockered version of release-tools?
04:02 Danyon I don't believe so, i've always generated from the local kohaclone
04:02 Danyon oh wait you know what, I think that might have been my workaround, jumping into ktd
04:02 Danyon "workaround" meaning the actual intended way to generate them haha
04:09 Danyon yep that worked as intended, thank you!
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08:04 ashimema Morning
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09:22 magnuse \o/
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10:40 asif Help: when i loged in from koha staff panel using domain name and click on some funcation like administration it log me out but when i use IP address it works well can anyone help me
10:44 tcohen[m] hola #koha o/
10:51 oleonard asif: Have you double-checked the values for  OPACBaseURL and  staffClientBaseURL ?
10:59 asif olenard: both are blank
11:00 oleonard asif: You need to fill them in. "This should be a complete URL, starting with http:// or https://. Do not include a trailing slash in the URL"
11:02 asif can they be like http://exampe.edu.pk or with port like http://example.edu.pk
11:04 oleonard They can include the port like http://example.edu.pk:8081
11:05 asif ok
11:11 asif yes i did the changes but again when i click any place using domain name it loged me out
11:11 asif but i keep working wheni use IP address instead of domain name
11:12 oleonard asif: Maybe try clearing your browser cookies
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11:52 tcohen[m] hola #koha o/
11:58 magnuse ¡hola tcohen[m]!
12:00 * cait1 waves
12:00 oleonard o/
12:01 magnuse dev meeting in 1 hour?
12:01 tcohen[m] yeap, an important one :-D
12:02 magnuse abd there is a video conference call thingy now? i have been otherwise engaged for too long...
12:02 magnuse s/abd/and/
12:03 tcohen[m] the last few dev meetings were held on Jitsi, yes
12:03 tcohen[m] and we try to keep track of what is said on IRC
12:05 magnuse cool
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12:26 * cait1 wonders where the QA team is today?
12:38 oleonard cait1: Hiding
12:48 oleonard Or maybe in the makeup department getting ready to be on camera :D
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12:52 marcelr o/
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12:57 cait1 heh
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13:00 cait1 meeting time!
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13:04 tcohen[m] #startmeeting Development IRC Meeting 1 November 2023
13:04 huginn` Meeting started Wed Nov  1 13:04:05 2023 UTC.  The chair is tcohen[m]. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:04 huginn` Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
13:04 huginn` The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_1_november_2023'
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13:04 tcohen[m] #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_1_November_2023
13:04 tcohen[m] #chair cait
13:04 huginn` Warning: Nick not in channel: cait
13:04 huginn` Current chairs: cait tcohen[m]
13:04 cait1 #topic Introductions
13:04 tcohen[m] #topic Introductions
13:04 cait1 #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
13:04 magnuse #info Magnus Enger, Libriotech/imCode
13:04 alexbuckley #info Alex Buckley - Catalyst IT, New Zealand
13:04 tcohen[m] chair cait1
13:05 tcohen[m] * #chair cait1
13:05 marcelr #info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum
13:05 EmmiTakkinen[m] #info Emmi Takkinen, Koha-Suomi Oy
13:05 aude_c[m] #info Aude Charillon, PTFS Europe, UK
13:05 tcohen[m] #info Tomas Cohen Arazi
13:05 cait1 I tihnk I am only a single instance today
13:05 tcohen[m] heh
13:05 cait hm or maybe not :)
13:05 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] #info Matt Blenkinsop, PTFS Europe, UK
13:05 oleonard #info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA
13:06 lmstrand #info Lari Strand, Koha-Suomi Oy
13:06 thd #info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City
13:06 tcohen[m] #topic Announcements
13:07 tcohen[m] #topic Update from the Release manager (23.11)
13:08 cait #info almost all big things are pushed for 23.11, tcohen is going to test 'bookings' today
13:08 cait #info only random test failures by now (selenium)
13:09 cait #info hurry if you want to have something pushed that includes strings
13:09 tcohen[m] #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
13:09 cait #info 22.11 waiting for a failing cypress test to be resolved
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13:12 tcohen[m] #topic Updates from the QA Team
13:13 cait #info QA queue is a bit fuller than we'd want it to be at this point, 5 bugs from September in the back log, please look at these
13:14 tcohen[m] #topic Status of roadmap projects
13:14 cait #action tochen to update status on some items
13:14 cait #info not all the big items were resolved this cycl
13:15 tcohen[m] #topic KohaCon24 update
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13:16 cait #info there is a KohaCon24 website up now and it includes a survey to help the organizers, please fill it out: https://sondagebiblio.org/index.php/828663.
13:16 cait #link https://2024.kohacon.org/
13:17 tcohen[m] #topic Roles for 24.05 - Elections
13:17 angelic Hi koha. I hope everyone is OK. I have a question from OPAC search. When I search the word "melek" I reach this page https://snipboard.io/HN892K.jpg. When I search for the word "cevriye" I reach this page https://snipboard.io/DqrEkh.jpg. One of them shows me "Did you mean" alternatives, the other one does not. What is going on here. can someone explain to me please
13:17 tcohen[m] #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_24.05
13:17 cait we are in a meeting now - can you ask a little later?
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13:22 cait #startvote Please vote on the Release Team for 24.05 as listed on the wiki. Vote? (yes, no, abstain)
13:22 huginn` Begin voting on: Please vote on the Release Team for 24.05 as listed on the wiki. Vote? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, .
13:22 huginn` Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
13:23 tcohen[m] #vote yes
13:23 cait #vote yes
13:23 magnuse #vote yes
13:23 oleonard #vote yes
13:23 alexbuckley #vote yes
13:23 marcelr #vote yes
13:23 aude_c[m] #vote yes
13:23 lmstrand #vote yes
13:23 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] #vote yes
13:23 thd #vote yes
13:23 EmmiTakkinen[m] #vote yes
13:25 cait #endvote
13:25 huginn` Voted on "Please vote on the Release Team for 24.05 as listed on the wiki. Vote?" Results are
13:25 huginn` yes (11): magnuse, cait, oleonard, MatthewBlenkinsop[m], marcelr, EmmiTakkinen[m], tcohen[m], alexbuckley, lmstrand, thd, aude_c[m]
13:26 cait #info Absent vote yes from ashimema and Joubu
13:26 tcohen[m] cait++
13:26 tcohen[m] community++
13:26 magnuse yay!
13:26 cait community++
13:26 alexbuckley cait++
13:26 caroline cait++
13:26 aude_c[m] community++
13:26 aude_c[m] cait++
13:26 magnuse cait++
13:28 cait #topic Actions from the previous meetings
13:29 cait #info Manual translations have been moved to the Weblate server
13:32 cait #info DMARC see email to the mailing list, thd has been reaching out to mailing list hosts
13:38 cait #info Phython2 is going away, so that will push us to move to mailman3 or something else at some point
13:39 cait #info Update of the git server to Forgejo after the release (tcohen)
13:40 tcohen[m] #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
13:41 cait #info moved to next meeting
13:42 cait #topic Set time of next meeting
13:44 cait #Next meeting: 15 November 2023, 13 UTC
13:44 cait #endmeeting
13:44 huginn` Meeting ended Wed Nov  1 13:44:12 2023 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)
13:44 huginn` Minutes:        https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-11-01-13.04.html
13:44 huginn` Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]3-11-01-13.04.txt
13:44 huginn` Log:            https://meetings.koha-communit[…]01-13.04.log.html
13:49 caroline I didn't see the kohacon topic go by, but just a quick update: we sent out a survey last week (?), if you could fill it out it would help us organize it in a way that is most suitable for all; we still haven't booked the venue, but it's probably going to be at the "large" library (it's literally called "grande bibliothèque") which has a nice amphitheatre wired with all the streaming stuff already; we gave the perl community a deadline to get back to us
13:49 caroline and they didn't so we are abandoning the "pure" perl track idea, they will still be welcome to come and to present, but there will not be a special track
13:50 cait I put the link to the survey earlier
13:50 cait it will be in the minutes :)
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13:53 caroline_catlady thanks cait!
13:55 angelic I'm sorry to interrupt the meeting.
13:58 cait angelic:  you couldn#t know
13:59 thd LaurentDucos[m]: Are you half present?
13:59 cait Did you mean is using the authority data in your system
13:59 cait depending on which one you turned on it will look at different fields in the authorities
13:59 cait so one might have the see also and the ohter might have not or something like that
14:00 cait it's not using a dictionary or similar
14:00 tcohen[m] #koha a reminder for everyone about release dates:
14:00 tcohen[m] * Nov 5 - "Hard" feature freeze, nothing considered as an improvement will be pushed if not marked as Passed QA... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]ulMFdWmvFVrJjltJp>)
14:01 tcohen[m] ^^ We are on soft freeze and those are the next relevant dates
14:11 angelic cait: I am not sure!!? is that "Did you mean" part related to authorities?
14:14 angelic For some searches it suggest some alternatives, for other searches it only says "Now what you expected?"
14:20 angelic I am sorry. I am very new in koha. My questions may be irrelevant
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14:42 oleonard angelic: I don't know how it works, but I think it shows "Not what you expected" when it wasn't able to come up with a suggested spelling alternative
14:45 angelic It is very staange. Because my when my Colleague made the same search for example "melek" she saw "Did you mean" page. She can see the alternative suggestions.
14:45 angelic strange*
14:48 angelic Before she have tried I had thought that it was related to the word that I am searching. But now I dont know what to think
14:56 oleonard That is strange angelic, I don't know what's going on. I'm not really familiar with the feature.
14:58 angelic Thanks oleonard :)
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15:27 tcohen[m] Hi, complex morning because of no nanny. Will try to help later if still on
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18:31 cait tuxayo++
18:40 caroline_catlady ashimema or MatthewBlenkinsop[m] bug 15504, I just want to confirm that there is only one new system preference correct?
18:40 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15504 enhancement, P1 - high, ---, matt.blenkinsop, Needs documenting , Track Patron's Last Activity
19:17 davidnind caroline_catlady: I had a look since I tested this (it feels like a zillion years ago, but was only early September) - this bug removes TrackLastPatronActivity (was in at least 23.05) and replaces with TrackLastPatronActivityTriggers - if no "trigger" is selected then borrowers.lastseen is not updated. I'll update the release note.
19:17 caroline_catlady thanks davidnind! I wanted to confirm before updating the release notes
19:18 caroline_catlady I was looking for an "easy" doc submission while waiting for a db to load... there is no "easy" doc, lol, there is always something
19:21 davidnind When I tested, it was around 56 comments - now 194 - so a lot happened during the QA process!
19:21 davidnind Even the "simplest" changes can be complicated!
19:59 ashimema It grew
19:59 ashimema 😉
20:00 ashimema I think it's one pref, multiple options.. and more options added in followup bugs
20:03 davidnind I'm sure that is not possible 8-) I have just updated the release note - corrections and making it better are welcome!
21:25 caroline first merge request on the new "main" branch of the manual + first contribution with the "one manual to rule them all" in mind!
21:28 mtj hi joubu, ping me for a chat about koha-i18n
21:29 davidnind caroline++
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