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kohaputti |
ere, are there any plans for completing the elasticsearch index mappings and weights? |
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kohaputti |
I'm adding some new fields there to cover our library needs but would be better to coordinate this together (so that I don't name the fields in some weird way and have to redo the work) |
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cait |
having a good standard config to ship with... would be nice :) |
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magnuse |
+1 |
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kohaputti |
there is one bug report for adding weights for the unimarc fields but no bug for adding new search fields. |
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ere |
kohaputti: Not that I know of. The effort so far really has been to provide feature-parity with Zebra. Weights are particularly difficult. Getting relevance right for a large number of different databases is not an easy task, but we could certainly use a basic setup one could use and be happy or start tweaking from. |
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ere |
In any case getting weighing right is a time-consuming process... |
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cait |
true, but i htink something that works 'reasonably well' for up to 50.000 record |
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kohaputti |
we have the weights defined for zebra so that could give us some hints |
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cait |
s |
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cait |
might be something we coudl aim for |
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kohaputti |
I'm going to create a bug report for adding new fields for the mappings.yaml |
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ere |
agreed |
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kohaputti |
the bug is bug 24678 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add missing search fields to Elasticsearch mappings |
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kohaputti |
ere, what sort of strategy we should use here? It is quite a big project. We could maybe just go through the zebra index mapping file and add missing fields from there? |
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ere |
kohaputti: Are we still missing fields from Zebra? I thought we had them all... |
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ere |
But sure, that should be the first priority. |
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kohaputti |
well, check for example that 264, we have it in ES but it is not indexed by subfields, only the whole thing. |
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so we cannot do exact searches on subfields because of that |
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ere |
oh, well, that obviously needs to be fixed.. |
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cait |
ew yep |
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cait |
260/264 is such a nightmare :( |
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kohaputti |
ere, I notice the 264 field I just put there as an example was added quite recently (June, 2019) so maybe the other fields are there? |
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cait |
i am still cleaning up things because union catalog data switched |
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ere |
kohaputti: I thought they were, but who knows.. |
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kohaputti |
ok, I will try to find if there are other subfields missing. |
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cait |
Joubu++ thx |
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kohaputti |
022y is missing at least so there are other differences from zebra too |
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@later tell rangi Hi Chris, 2 things: 1. there is a PR for the dashboard, then 2. there is a need to have a permanent link to the latest version of the manual (https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]manual/issues/19). I think that would be great to have that, what do you think? Are you the one that can create such symlink? |
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Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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hi |
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wahanui |
hello, kubiz |
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kubiz |
anybody home |
| 11:38 |
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kubiz |
i have question |
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i have a biblio record that no item but the status show 1 available item |
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cait |
Joubu++ :) |
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cait |
022$y is also a more recent one - maybe tracking the last changes to zebra files will uncover the missing ones easier |
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Found the culprit that causes the problem for the status for no item available. There is a call number in the biblio in the item but actually there are no item, no barcode and so on. Delete it and the available status is gone |
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but i have another problem. different situation but still regarding the status available. we have 1 item been checkout but the status is still available |
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cait |
is it bothavailable on the detail page and results or only on one of them? |
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kubiz |
only 1 item in the biblio. It bring to the details page. So it is in the detail page |
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kubiz |
ah i can search using the name of the author in search page ya both display and result show the available status |
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both display in detail and result page |
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hello |
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Guest16730 |
seems like I have found a bug in Koha search |
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kubiz |
you need to wait a long time before your question be answered guest16730 |
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Guest16730 |
i have set up a koha instance and filled it with books with titles in Russian. but when I try to search in Russian, it displays all results |
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Guest16730 |
all entries |
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Guest16730 |
this is reproducible even on a demo site |
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Guest16730 |
this is a search in Russian https://demo.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-[…]_by=relevance_dsc |
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Guest16730 |
that particular library doesn't have any books in Russian, however it does return 26 completely irrelevant results |
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Guest16730 |
probably because of Japanese somewhere in the book title |
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paul2020 |
I also tried to connect to zebra as explained here |
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https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bleshooting_Zebra |
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and told it to explain why does it return those irrelevant results. |
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paul2020 |
it shows what words it considered relevant, but they are completely irrelevant to the search word in Russian |
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paul2020 |
so the problem is in zebra, not in koha |
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cait |
are you searching with cyrillic? |
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paul2020: |
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paul2020 |
yes! |
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cait |
have you configured ICU? |
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no |
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cait |
there you go :) |
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cait |
for search with non-latin scripts to work correctly, you want ICU |
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cait |
sec |
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cait |
ICU? |
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wahanui |
ICU is on |
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cait |
no wahanui... i wanted the documentation |
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cait |
(wahnui is a bot) |
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cait |
this shoudl help you: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration |
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cait |
wahanui forget ICU |
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wahanui |
cait: I forgot icu |
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cait |
ICU is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration |
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cait |
ICU? |
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wahanui |
ICU is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration |
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cait |
hi khall :) |
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khall |
hi cait! |
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cait |
I have to admit... I want something |
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cait |
khall: would you mind taking a look at bug 15377? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, rogan.hamby, Signed Off , Remove 'checked out' items from course reserves |
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khall |
can do! |
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khall |
cait: it occurs to me that it would be really nice if we had lists of 'stakeholders' for particular features ( course reserves, branch transfer limits, rotating collections, etc ) so we could ping a set of libraries that are heavy users of a particular feature to know if a given change would adversely affect their workflow. |
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cait |
true |
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cait |
i do that to some extend where i know |
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khall |
I'll try to dig some up course reserves users to get an opinion on this |
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cait |
but it's not written down somewhere |
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cait |
thanks! |
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paul2020 |
thanks, cait! installing ICU helps! |
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cait |
np, we have a lot of librareis using icu |
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paul2020 |
installing ICU seems to be an important step for those who install koha for use with non-latin alphabets. but there is no mention of that in the installation documentation |
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paul2020 |
can anyone add a note and a link to ICU installation page here |
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paul2020 |
https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian |
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paul2020 |
there is a Translations sub-section, it should include a link to ICU installation page |
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paul2020 |
saying this is a requirement if you want to search in other alphabets! |
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paul2020 |
I would also like to share my experience with installing koha on ubuntu server 18.04. There is a problem with installing it on Mysql that comes from ubuntu repositories. |
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paul2020 |
some database tables are not created, this results in errors |
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paul2020 |
I install from packages |
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paul2020 |
there are no problems with MariaDB. this should also be mentioned in the docimentation |
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paul2020 |
so, if you want to install from packaged on ubuntu server 18.04 use MariaDB, NOT mysql! |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 7611: (follow-up) Adjust tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]64248451078fffedc> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 24002: (follow-up) Incorrect DATE value: '00-00-0000' in C4/Serials.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8f647e1379907a03b> |
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paul2020: which error do you get with MySQL? |
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paul2020 |
this was several months ago. I cannot remember exactly what errors there were, it showed errors both at the installation stage and when the site was started |
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Joubu |
it should be fixed now |
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paul2020 |
seems like it couldn't execute sql scripts or some statements in them |
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paul2020 |
I had an installation on ubuntu server 16.04 and this was on ubuntu server 18.04 |
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Joubu |
yes, because of MySQL 8, we fixed lot of bugs related to this version in the last months |
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paul2020 |
OK, I did this installation several months ago, maybe in summer |
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cait |
paul2020: if you request a wiki account, you could add the bit about icu yourself if youwant? |
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cait |
i can moderate the request |
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paul2020 |
cait, If you already have access to wiki, can you just add one line to https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bian#Translations that says that those who use another languages should also install ICU as per this page https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration . That would be less effort for all. |
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Joubu |
ashimema[m]: I moved the patch from 24002 to its own bug report, as it was pushed to stable already :-/ |
| 14:09 |
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Joubu |
I should have obsoleted it |
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paul2020 |
this page https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ins_configuration also says sudo koha-restart-zebra {yourinstance} - this command seems to work, but says "Deprecated script used (koha-restart-zebra)". That should be "sudo koha-zebra --restart {yourinstance}" |
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Joubu |
paul2020: certainly better if you edit by yourself then :) |
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ashimema[m] |
oops |
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ashimema[m] |
I'm on kids dity today.. hense not being here much |
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ere |
Is there still something being done with circulation rules? Latest master, edit a rule and set "Holds allowed (total)" to empty, save it, edit again and save. Results in "Unlimited" being stored in database and subsequently "Argument "Unlimited" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at /home/ere/kohaclone/C4/Reserves.pm line 460" |
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Joubu |
ere: bug 24669 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24669 major, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Signed Off , Editing circulation rule breaks holds when total holds unlimited |
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Joubu: thanks! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Yippee, build fixed! |
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Congratulations! |
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Joubu++ again heh (QA of my patches) |
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rangi |
morning |
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rangi |
@later tell joubu yes I can do the symlink, if you tell me what you want the path to be |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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ashimema[m] |
hi rangi |
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rangi |
hi ashimema[m] |
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ashimema[m] |
is that the symlink for the manual you were talking about there rangi? |
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* ashimema[m] |
ears pricked up |
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rangi |
yep |
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ashimema[m] |
aha.. coolios |
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* ashimema[m] |
hasn't read todays irc logs yet.. been on kids duty today.. |
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ashimema[m] |
lots of fun science experiments instead of coding.. has been a nice break |
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rangi |
:)\ |
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lisettelatah |
Question, I tested bug 15522 today. It all worked swimmingly except for an API test. Should I fail QA for that? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
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cait |
lisettelatah: maybe leave anote |
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cait |
as a first step |
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cait |
also curious what you think about the new interface :) |
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lisettelatah |
cait, I did leave a note, including the messages about the failure. |
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lisettelatah |
I liked it, though I only have a few circ rules set up. I might put in our circ and fine rules and reapply the patches and see how it looks with Valnet's circ and fine rules (or a subset of them) |
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cait |
that would be a great test I tihnk |
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cait |
I don't really have thedata to do that I think |
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cait |
lisettelatah: would you do mea little favor? looking for opinions on bug 15352 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Use URLLinkText instead of URL for item links |
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cait |
should the linktext for item urls be a separatepref to record linktext or not? |
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cait |
hi Margaret! |
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Margaret |
Hi Cait! |
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cait |
can you remind me of your ravelry nick? |
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cait |
waned to ask forever |
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Margaret |
Sure! https://www.ravelry.com/people/margaretserpent |
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Margaret |
And I need to add you as a friend. |
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cait |
just added you |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #618: FIXED in 47 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/618/ |
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cait |
:) |
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Margaret |
Sweet! Friends added - Check |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
now you just need to start uploading photos :) |
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cait |
because i am curious! |
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Margaret |
He, yeah, I need to take those photos. |
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Margaret |
But you've catalyzed an idea for me... There's a boutique yarn shop in town that's asked me to do crochet courses for them. |
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Margaret |
they have spinning, loom, knitting classes, heck they have a 'socks' study hall. |
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cait |
sounds cool |
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cait |
my next thing is to figure out how ot add cat ears to a hat i knitted |
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Margaret |
But a "Ravelry" class is something I haven't seen |
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lisettelatah |
cait if you find a pattern you like for ears, you should be able to make them and use a mattress stitch to attach them on top. |
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cait |
lisettelatah: it's harde than you would think, i thave one that might work, but still kind of scared :) |
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cait |
I don't reocmment loking for 'cat' on ravelry |
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cait |
recommend even |
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cait |
lisettelatah: are you on there as well? |
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lisettelatah |
Yep, though I haven't done anything in a while. |
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lisettelatah |
https://www.ravelry.com/people/lizziemeg |
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cait |
nice photo :) |
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lisettelatah |
Thanks :) |
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cait |
befriended - I think you should see my nick then |
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lisettelatah |
nice! |
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Margaret |
I've done crochet cat ears a few times and its quite easy. |
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Margaret |
You could look up some simple amigurumi then sew them on. |
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Margaret |
https://www.allaboutami.com/am[…]rumiforbeginners/ |
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cait |
oh cute bunnies |
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Margaret |
Hi paul_p! |
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cait |
he might be confused if we turned #koha into a knitting chat |
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Margaret |
They both start with a "k" so it's fine. |
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cait |
I start with a k too! |
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Margaret |
That's how you know you are in the right place! |
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Margaret |
But you are quite right about those pictures. Sigh. |
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* cait |
sends cookies |
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Margaret |
Speaking of cookies ... I sense another ample opportunity for a channel tangent! |
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cait |
heh |
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lisettelatah |
cait, I've started building more complicated circ rules into my test server to test with 15522 and I'll try and test it tomorrow after the US Education meeting. |
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cait |
great, thx lisettelatah! |
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cait |
lisettelatah++ |
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lisettelatah |
Have a good day everyone! |
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wizzycray |
...how is it possible that it is an impossibility to delete a patron list |
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cait |
wizzycray: i can delete them from the summary page |
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cait |
or do you mean a patron's list? |
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wizzycray |
why can you not do it from the list of the lists though >:( |
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wizzycray |
a patron's list |
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wizzycray |
no no a list of patrons |
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cait |
that was easy to misundertand |
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wizzycray |
yes it was :) |
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wizzycray |
for both of us |
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cait |
hm can do that too |
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cait |
in the opac? |
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cait |
in staff an dopac |
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wizzycray |
/cgi-bin/koha/patron_lists/lists.pl these ones |
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wizzycray |
you can't delete a list from here |
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wizzycray |
you have to load it |
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cait |
so patron lists |
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wizzycray |
in this case, someone accidentionpurpose put 3849 patrons in a list |
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cait |
now you really ocnsued me |
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cait |
do you see it? because it's hared? |
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cait |
i think only the creator might be able to delete |
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cait |
shared... |
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wizzycray |
it's not a list of books |
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wizzycray |
it's a list of patrons |
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cait |
i know |
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cait |
they got a shard checkboxn now |
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wizzycray |
ok :D |
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cait |
if not checked you only see your own |
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cait |
shard... ignore the typos |
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wizzycray |
hehe I speak typ |
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wizzycray |
typo even < see |
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wizzycray |
right so I should set the shared bit in the db |
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wizzycray |
and THEN delete it |
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cait |
i think if you can see it in the summary i tmust already be shared |
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cait |
you probably need to take ownership |
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wizzycray |
it wasn't shared, setting it so didn't make it deletable |
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wizzycray |
I gave up and deleted it from the db |
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