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07:42 * magnuse waves
07:44 * ere waves back
07:51 reiveune hfello
09:51 cait hello #koha
09:57 magnuse kia ora cait
10:10 kohaputti ere, are there any plans for completing the elasticsearch index mappings and weights?
10:12 kohaputti I'm adding some new fields there to cover our library needs but would be better to coordinate this together (so that I don't name the fields in some weird way and have to redo the work)
10:13 cait having a good standard config to ship with... would be nice :)
10:14 magnuse +1
10:15 kohaputti there is one bug report for adding weights for the unimarc fields but no bug for adding new search fields.
10:15 ere kohaputti: Not that I know of. The effort so far really has been to provide feature-parity with Zebra. Weights are particularly difficult. Getting relevance right for a large number of different databases is not an easy task, but we could certainly use a basic setup one could use and be happy or start tweaking from.
10:16 ere In any case getting weighing right is a time-consuming process...
10:17 cait true, but i htink something that works 'reasonably well' for up to 50.000 record
10:17 kohaputti we have the weights defined for zebra so that could give us some hints
10:17 cait s
10:17 cait might be something we coudl aim for
10:17 kohaputti I'm going to create a bug report for adding new fields for the mappings.yaml
10:25 ere agreed
10:33 kohaputti the bug is bug 24678
10:33 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add missing search fields to Elasticsearch mappings
10:34 kohaputti ere, what sort of strategy we should use here? It is quite a big project. We could maybe just go through the zebra index mapping file and add missing fields from there?
10:35 ere kohaputti: Are we still missing fields from Zebra? I thought we had them all...
10:35 ere But sure, that should be the first priority.
10:36 kohaputti well, check for example that 264, we have it in ES but it is not indexed by subfields, only the whole thing.
10:36 kohaputti so we cannot do exact searches on subfields because of that
10:36 ere oh, well, that obviously needs to be fixed..
10:38 cait ew yep
10:38 cait 260/264 is such a nightmare :(
10:38 kohaputti ere, I notice the 264 field I just put there as an example was added quite recently (June, 2019) so maybe the other fields are there?
10:38 cait i am still cleaning up things because union catalog data switched
10:39 ere kohaputti: I thought they were, but who knows..
10:40 kohaputti ok, I will try to find if there are other subfields missing.
10:41 cait Joubu++ thx
10:43 kohaputti 022y is missing at least so there are other differences from zebra too
11:24 Joubu @later tell rangi Hi Chris, 2 things: 1. there is a PR for the dashboard, then 2. there is a need to have a permanent link to the latest version of the manual (https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-manual/issues/19). I think that would be great to have that, what do you think? Are you the one that can create such symlink?
11:24 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
11:37 kubiz hi
11:37 wahanui hello, kubiz
11:37 kubiz anybody home
11:38 kubiz i have question
11:42 kubiz i have a biblio record that no item but the status show 1 available item
12:10 cait Joubu++ :)
12:10 cait 022$y is also a more recent one - maybe tracking the last changes to zebra files will uncover the missing ones easier
12:15 kubiz Found the culprit that causes the problem for the status for no item available. There is a call number in the biblio in the item but actually there are no item, no barcode and so on. Delete it and the available status is gone
12:16 kubiz but i have another problem. different situation but still regarding the status available. we have 1 item been checkout but the status is still available
12:17 cait is it bothavailable on the detail page and results or only on one of them?
12:20 kubiz only 1 item in the biblio. It bring to the details page. So it is in the detail page
12:21 kubiz ah i can search using the name of the author in search page ya both display and result show the available status
12:22 kubiz both display in detail and result page
12:29 paul hello
12:30 Guest16730 seems like I have found a bug in Koha search
12:40 kubiz you need to wait a long time before your question be answered guest16730
12:40 Guest16730 i have set up a koha instance and filled it with books with titles in Russian. but when I try to search in Russian, it displays all results
12:40 Guest16730 all entries
12:41 Guest16730 this is reproducible even on a demo site
12:42 Guest16730 this is a search in Russian https://demo.mykoha.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?idx=kw&q=%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D1%80&offset=20&sort_by=relevance_dsc
12:43 Guest16730 that particular library doesn't have any books in Russian, however it does return 26 completely irrelevant results
12:45 Guest16730 probably because of Japanese somewhere in the book title
13:13 paul2020 I also tried to connect to zebra as explained here
13:13 paul2020 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_Zebra
13:13 paul2020 and told it to explain why does it return those irrelevant results.
13:13 paul2020 it shows what words it considered relevant, but they are completely irrelevant to the search word in Russian
13:14 paul2020 so the problem is in zebra, not in koha
13:18 cait are you searching with cyrillic?
13:19 cait paul2020:
13:19 paul2020 yes!
13:19 cait have you configured ICU?
13:19 paul2020 no
13:19 cait there you go :)
13:19 cait for search with non-latin scripts to work correctly, you want ICU
13:19 cait sec
13:19 cait ICU?
13:19 wahanui ICU is on
13:19 cait no wahanui... i wanted the documentation
13:19 cait (wahnui is a bot)
13:20 cait this shoudl help you: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ICU_chains_configuration
13:20 cait wahanui forget ICU
13:20 wahanui cait: I forgot icu
13:20 cait ICU is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ICU_chains_configuration
13:20 cait ICU?
13:20 wahanui ICU is https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ICU_chains_configuration
13:31 cait hi khall :)
13:31 khall hi cait!
13:31 cait I have to admit... I want something
13:31 cait khall: would you mind taking a look at bug 15377?
13:31 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15377 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, rogan.hamby, Signed Off , Remove 'checked out' items from course reserves
13:31 khall can do!
13:36 khall cait: it occurs to me that it would be really nice if we had lists of 'stakeholders' for particular features ( course reserves, branch transfer limits, rotating collections, etc ) so we could ping a set of libraries that are heavy users of a particular feature to know if a given change would adversely affect their workflow.
13:36 cait true
13:36 cait i do that to some extend where i know
13:36 khall I'll try to dig some up course reserves users to get an opinion on this
13:36 cait but it's not written down somewhere
13:36 cait thanks!
13:38 paul2020 thanks, cait! installing ICU helps!
13:39 cait np, we have a lot of librareis using icu
13:42 paul2020 installing ICU seems to be an important step for those who install koha for use with non-latin alphabets. but there is no mention of that in the installation documentation
13:43 paul2020 can anyone add a note and a link to ICU installation page here
13:43 paul2020 https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian
13:44 paul2020 there is a Translations sub-section, it should include a link to ICU installation page
13:44 paul2020 saying this is a requirement if you want to search in other alphabets!
13:46 paul2020 I would also like to share my experience with installing koha on ubuntu server 18.04. There is a problem with installing it on Mysql that comes from ubuntu repositories.
13:47 paul2020 some database tables are not created, this results in errors
13:47 paul2020 I install from packages
13:48 paul2020 there are no problems with MariaDB. this should also be mentioned in the docimentation
13:49 paul2020 so, if you want to install from packaged on ubuntu server 18.04 use MariaDB, NOT mysql!
13:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 7611: (follow-up) Adjust tests <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=fc1db6b9948ba06cd6497ff64248451078fffedc>
13:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24002: (follow-up) Incorrect DATE value: '00-00-0000' in C4/Serials.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=799ec12063259a81a78e6c68f647e1379907a03b>
13:59 Joubu paul2020: which error do you get with MySQL?
14:00 paul2020 this was several months ago. I cannot remember exactly what errors there were, it showed errors both at the installation stage and when the site was started
14:00 Joubu it should be fixed now
14:01 paul2020 seems like it couldn't execute sql scripts or some statements in them
14:01 paul2020 I had an installation on ubuntu server 16.04 and this was on ubuntu server 18.04
14:01 Joubu yes, because of MySQL 8, we fixed lot of bugs related to this version in the last months
14:02 paul2020 OK, I did this installation several months ago, maybe in summer
14:05 cait paul2020: if you request a wiki account, you could add the bit about icu yourself if youwant?
14:05 cait i can moderate the request
14:07 paul2020 cait, If you already have access to wiki, can you just add one line to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Debian#Translations that says that those who use another languages should also install ICU as per this page https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ICU_chains_configuration . That would be less effort for all.
14:09 Joubu ashimema[m]: I moved the patch from 24002 to its own bug report, as it was pushed to stable already :-/
14:09 Joubu I should have obsoleted it
14:10 paul2020 this page https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/ICU_chains_configuration also says sudo koha-restart-zebra {yourinstance} - this command seems to work, but says "Deprecated script used (koha-restart-zebra)". That should be "sudo koha-zebra --restart {yourinstance}"
14:11 Joubu paul2020: certainly better if you edit by yourself then :)
14:12 ashimema[m] oops
14:12 ashimema[m] I'm on kids dity today.. hense not being here much
14:23 ere Is there still something being done with circulation rules? Latest master, edit a rule and set "Holds allowed (total)" to empty, save it, edit again and save. Results in "Unlimited" being stored in database and subsequently "Argument "Unlimited" isn't numeric in numeric ge (>=) at /home/ere/kohaclone/C4/Reserves.pm line 460"
14:25 Joubu ere: bug 24669
14:25 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24669 major, P5 - low, ---, joonas.kylmala, Signed Off , Editing circulation rule breaks holds when total holds unlimited
14:25 ere Joubu: thanks!
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14:32 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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14:50 kidclamp .
14:51 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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15:17 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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15:51 cait Joubu++ again heh (QA of my patches)
16:03 reiveune bye
16:53 did hi,
20:14 rangi morning
20:26 rangi @later tell joubu yes I can do the symlink, if you tell me what you want the path to be
20:26 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
20:28 ashimema[m] hi rangi
20:29 rangi hi ashimema[m]
20:31 ashimema[m] is that the symlink for the manual you were talking about there rangi?
20:31 * ashimema[m] ears pricked up
20:31 rangi yep
20:31 ashimema[m] aha.. coolios
20:31 * ashimema[m] hasn't read todays irc logs yet.. been on kids duty today..
20:32 ashimema[m] lots of fun science experiments instead of coding.. has been a nice break
20:40 rangi :)\
21:05 lisettelatah Question, I tested bug 15522 today. It all worked swimmingly except for an API test. Should I fail QA for that?
21:05 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , New interface for revamped circulation rules
21:06 cait lisettelatah: maybe leave anote
21:06 cait as a first step
21:06 cait also curious what you think about the new interface :)
21:06 lisettelatah cait, I did leave a note, including the messages about the failure.
21:07 lisettelatah I liked it, though I only have a few circ rules set up. I might put in our circ and fine rules and reapply the patches and see how it looks with Valnet's circ and fine rules (or a subset of them)
21:07 cait that would be a great test I tihnk
21:07 cait I don't really have thedata to do that I think
21:08 cait lisettelatah: would you do mea little favor? looking for opinions on bug 15352
21:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15352 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Pushed to master , Use URLLinkText instead of URL for item links
21:08 cait should the linktext for item urls be a separatepref to record linktext or not?
21:10 cait hi Margaret!
21:10 Margaret Hi Cait!
21:10 cait can you remind me of your ravelry nick?
21:10 cait waned to ask forever
21:12 Margaret Sure! https://www.ravelry.com/people/margaretserpent
21:12 Margaret And I need to add you as a friend.
21:13 cait just added you
21:13 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
21:13 wahanui Congratulations!
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21:13 cait :)
21:14 Margaret Sweet! Friends added - Check
21:14 cait :)
21:14 cait now you just need to start uploading photos :)
21:14 cait because i am curious!
21:15 Margaret He, yeah, I need to take those photos.
21:15 Margaret But you've catalyzed an idea for me... There's a boutique yarn shop in town that's asked me to do crochet courses for them.
21:16 Margaret they have spinning, loom, knitting classes, heck they have a 'socks' study hall.
21:16 cait sounds cool
21:16 cait my next thing is to figure out how ot add cat ears to a hat i knitted
21:17 Margaret But a "Ravelry" class is something I haven't seen
21:20 lisettelatah cait if you find a pattern you like for ears, you should be able to make them and use a mattress stitch to attach them on top.
21:20 cait lisettelatah: it's harde than you would think, i thave one that might work, but still kind of scared :)
21:21 cait I don't reocmment loking for 'cat' on ravelry
21:21 cait recommend even
21:21 cait lisettelatah: are you on there as well?
21:21 lisettelatah Yep, though I haven't done anything in a while.
21:22 lisettelatah https://www.ravelry.com/people/lizziemeg
21:22 cait nice photo :)
21:22 lisettelatah Thanks :)
21:24 cait befriended - I think you should see my nick then
21:25 lisettelatah nice!
21:25 Margaret I've done crochet cat ears a few times and its quite easy.
21:26 Margaret You could look up some simple amigurumi then sew them on.
21:26 Margaret https://www.allaboutami.com/amigurumiforbeginners/
21:27 cait oh cute bunnies
21:29 Margaret Hi paul_p!
21:29 cait he might be confused if we turned #koha into a knitting chat
21:30 Margaret They both start with a "k" so it's fine.
21:31 cait I start with a k too!
21:32 Margaret That's how you know you are in the right place!
21:33 Margaret But you are quite right about those pictures. Sigh.
21:41 * cait sends cookies
21:45 Margaret Speaking of cookies ... I sense another ample opportunity for a channel tangent!
21:51 cait heh
21:57 lisettelatah cait, I've started building more complicated circ rules into my test server to test with 15522 and I'll try and test it tomorrow after the US Education meeting.
21:58 cait great, thx lisettelatah!
21:58 cait lisettelatah++
21:58 lisettelatah Have a good day everyone!
22:51 wizzycray ...how is it possible that it is an impossibility to delete a patron list
22:57 cait wizzycray: i can delete them from the summary page
22:57 cait or do you mean a patron's list?
22:57 wizzycray why can you not do it from the list of the lists though >:(
22:57 wizzycray a patron's list
22:57 wizzycray no no a list of patrons
22:57 cait that was easy to misundertand
22:57 wizzycray yes it was :)
22:58 wizzycray for both of us
22:58 cait hm can do that too
22:58 cait in the opac?
22:58 cait in staff an dopac
22:58 wizzycray /cgi-bin/koha/patron_lists/lists.pl these ones
22:58 wizzycray you can't delete a list from here
22:59 wizzycray you have to load it
22:59 cait so patron lists
22:59 wizzycray in this case, someone accidentionpurpose put 3849 patrons in a list
22:59 cait now you really ocnsued me
22:59 cait do you see it? because it's hared?
22:59 cait i think only the creator might be able to delete
23:00 cait shared...
23:00 wizzycray it's not a list of books
23:00 wizzycray it's a list of patrons
23:00 cait i know
23:00 cait they got a shard checkboxn now
23:00 wizzycray ok :D
23:00 cait if not checked you only see your own
23:00 cait shard... ignore the typos
23:00 wizzycray hehe I speak typ
23:00 wizzycray typo even < see
23:02 wizzycray right so I should set the shared bit in the db
23:02 wizzycray and THEN delete it
23:04 cait i think if you can see it in the summary i tmust already be shared
23:04 cait you probably need to take ownership
23:35 wizzycray it wasn't shared, setting it so didn't make it deletable
23:35 wizzycray I gave up and deleted it from the db