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@seen Joubu |
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huginn |
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tcohen |
hi |
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@seen dcook |
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huginn |
tcohen: dcook was last seen in #koha 22 hours and 15 seconds ago: <dcook> Oh also if someone wants a super easy pretty trivial sign off: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20592 |
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tcohen |
@later tell dcook have you seen my 'Official Koha Docker image' thread? |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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* mtompset |
grins. |
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mtompset |
I provided a counter patch on that. |
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mtompset |
Have a great day, #koha tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi mtompset |
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tcohen |
good night! |
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wahanui |
sleep tight |
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BobB |
hi tcohen |
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tcohen |
hi Bob |
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tcohen |
how are you doing! |
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BobB |
good thanks, busy :) |
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BobB |
in your Docker thread, what is CI? |
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tcohen |
Continous integration |
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tcohen |
jenkins |
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BobB |
ah, ok |
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BobB |
Continuous Improvement in another life, but that did not fit :) |
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tcohen |
jonathan commits, jenkins picks that and retrieves the docker images, builds the testing environment, runs the tests, destroys the testing environment |
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BobB |
very cool |
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BobB |
my accountant's head spins at the stuff you guys do |
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tcohen |
the next thing will be, the RM commits, we build the debian packages out of that (in a docker container, the koha-dpkg-docker thing) |
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tcohen |
and then try to install it, and check the results |
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BobB |
awesome\ |
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tcohen |
if someone wants to work on other distros or other ideas, everyone is welcome |
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BobB |
might you go to KohaCon18 tcohen? |
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tcohen |
Yes! |
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BobB |
cool, hoping to be there too |
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tcohen |
are you going? |
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tcohen |
=D |
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hopes so! |
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BobB |
I have a meeting in Sydney the day before, but the Qantas and the International Date Line might conspire to get me there on the first afternoon |
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BobB |
albeit bleary eyed :) |
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tcohen |
hehe |
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BobB |
all good at your end? family well? |
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tcohen |
yes :-D |
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tcohen |
the dog keeps escaping, but I will finish ironing the fence |
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tcohen |
he |
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is in the construction business lately hehe |
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BobB |
dogs are like that - as long as the kids stay in, you're fine :) |
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BobB |
ok, back to work, take care tomas |
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tcohen |
:-D |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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hello |
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nlegrand |
Poum poum poum |
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cait |
bonjour nlegrand |
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nlegrand |
Salut cait ! |
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waves |
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nlegrand |
o/ andreashm |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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calire |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi dear loon |
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oleonard |
Hello calire and wahanui, my two favorite real-meat people. |
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kidclamp |
meat-people |
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kidclamp |
hi darn oleo |
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curses mildly at the margarine |
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calire |
real-meat. nice. |
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eythian |
oleonard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ |
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oleonard |
eythian: I guessed what that was going to show me before it loaded :D |
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eythian |
excellent :) |
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nlegrand |
Do people have swapping problems while reindexing authority with ES? With a fair amount like 1020683? |
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nlegrand |
I just happend to know the existance of oom-killer and it didn't please me so much. |
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nlegrand |
After a few seconds my swap is full. |
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tuxayo |
nlegrand: https://downloadmoreram.com |
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kidclamp |
nlegrand, you could try lowering the commmit number? |
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tuxayo |
Is the RAM usage linear with the number of records? |
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kidclamp |
we did an index on ~1 million with no probs, but I think we had 8 or 16gb of ram |
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tuxayo |
Can someone confirm if the values in biblioitems.itemtype must exist in the itemtypes table? |
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tuxayo |
There is no foreign key so I'm confused. |
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oleonard |
tuxayo: I know that our catalogers sometimes import records with invalid itemtype codes and Koha doesn't complain. |
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tuxayo |
oleonard: You might also have issues when exporting a PDF of a basketgroup. https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]sketgroup.pl#L198 |
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tuxayo |
«Can't call method "description" on an undefined value» |
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oleonard |
Not me, we don't use acquisitions ;) |
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oleonard |
The catalogers run reports regularly to catch the problems |
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oleonard |
...but I would prefer that Koha performed the check for us. |
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tcohen |
morning |
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cait |
morning oleonard |
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cait |
morning tcohen :) |
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tcohen |
hi cait! |
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cait |
josef_moravec++ |
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tuxayo |
oleonard: which check should Koha perform? |
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cait |
khall: thx for the follow-up :) |
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cait |
tuxayo: not allow you to import invalid itemtypes would be good, also branchcodes |
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oleonard |
tuxayo: It would be nice if Koha warned you when you were importing bibliographic data with invalid authorized values/itemtypes/branch codes |
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tuxayo |
Indeed :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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mtompset |
@seen magnuse |
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huginn |
mtompset: magnuse was last seen in #koha 1 day, 23 hours, 41 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <magnuse> +1! |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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Joubu |
oleonard: yesterday I had trouble to use bootstrap styled buttons on bug 18327 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18327 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Add the ability to set the received date to today on multi receiving serials |
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Joubu |
for instance: |
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Joubu |
<div class="btn-group"><input type="submit" value="Save" class="btn btn-default btn-sm"></div> |
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Joubu |
and |
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Joubu |
<div class="btn-group"><a href="#multi_receiving" role="button" class="btn btn-default btn-sm">Save</a></div> |
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Joubu |
do not display the same (a vs input, but same classes) |
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josef_moravec_ |
ready for gdpr meeting? |
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cait |
kind of :) |
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josef_moravec_ |
;) |
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josef_moravec_ |
#startmeeting GDPR IRC meeting 18 April 2018 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Apr 18 14:05:53 2018 UTC. The chair is josef_moravec_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: GDPR IRC meeting 18 April 2018) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'gdpr_irc_meeting_18_april_2018' |
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josef_moravec_ |
chair cait |
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josef_moravec_ |
#chair cait |
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huginn |
Current chairs: cait josef_moravec_ |
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cait |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ing_18_April_2018 Agenda |
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josef_moravec_ |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: GDPR IRC meeting 18 April 2018) |
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wahanui |
#info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient |
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josef_moravec_ |
#info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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cc_ |
#info Colin Campbell PTFS-Europe |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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cait |
hi SoniaB, we just do #info |
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SoniaB |
#info Sonia BOUIS Université Lyon 3 france |
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josef_moravec_ |
#topic Debate about improvements in Koha code |
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Topic for #koha is now Debate about improvements in Koha code (Meeting topic: GDPR IRC meeting 18 April 2018) |
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SoniaB |
cait: Hi, just in time :) |
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josef_moravec_ |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nd_patron_privacy |
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josef_moravec_ |
Do we wan't to go point by point like last time? Or just ask if anybody has anything to add? |
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Joubu |
could you make a summary? |
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Joubu |
what has been done since last time? |
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Joubu |
will we be ready for 18.05? |
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cait |
probably not |
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SoniaB |
josef_moravec_: should we add old_issues and old_reverves ? |
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cait |
SoniaB: for anonymizing? |
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m23 |
hi, Mike on the beard |
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SoniaB |
cait: yes, if necessary. I haven't the exaxt content of those tables in mind |
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m23 |
board :-) |
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josef_moravec_ |
SoniaB: ideally the old_issues and old_reserves should be merged into issues/reserves tables |
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josef_moravec_ |
but yes, we should take care of these two too |
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cait |
we could still discuss anonymizing older entries maybe |
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josef_moravec_ |
Unfortunately, I don't think we done much ;( |
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cait |
w can see when they were cancelled/filled and anonymize after x days by script |
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josef_moravec_ |
I am working on patch for anonymizing patrons, but not ready yet |
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cait |
scripts like this could be probably backported |
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m23 |
Anonymizing patrons and their history are mandatory task |
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cait |
who has dev time tos pend on the issues? |
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cait |
should we prioritize and then try to find someone responsible to keep track of it/work on it? |
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SoniaB |
Is there already patches related to 18081 ready to test (I haven't open them all, sorry) ? |
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cait |
(16:17:52) cait: who has dev time to spend on the issues? |
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cait |
(16:18:06) cait: should we prioritize and then try to find someone responsible to keep track of it/work on it? |
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cait |
just repeating for josef_moravec_ |
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m23 |
Cait: Yes |
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josef_moravec_ |
cait: thanks |
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cait |
I agree |
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cait |
anonymizing is a big prio |
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cait |
especially for deletedborrowers |
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cait |
i will add priority to the table |
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josef_moravec_ |
cait: good idea |
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cait |
josef_moravec_: can I add you for 1? |
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m23 |
Cait: great |
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josef_moravec_ |
Yes I will take it |
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cait |
working on the table, please pick the next prio |
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cait |
I will put BSZ down for the initial Cookie documentation, calire has worked some more on it |
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cait |
but there are still white spaces, everyone is invited to add |
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cait |
first changes saved |
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m23 |
Privacy/anonymization : prio 2? |
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josef_moravec_ |
what about #10 or #11/#12/#13 ? |
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cait |
is that like a cookie banner? or more complicated? |
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cait |
13 sorry |
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cait |
ah that was for self reg? |
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m23 |
7 Statistics importatnt for Czech libraries |
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cait |
and it's the way to more anonymization |
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cait |
prio 1 or prio 2? for 7? who will work on it? |
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josef_moravec_ |
I think #13 is a bit more complicated - depends on some settings of system which should be investigated more |
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josef_moravec_ |
number #7 - I am working on patch for 20606 |
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cait |
i think maybe make 2 prio 1 too |
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SoniaB |
#7 : statistics is important too in France |
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SoniaB |
I don't really know how to help |
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cait |
ok making 7 prio 1 an djosef |
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m23 |
3 Privacy/anonymizatio prio 3? |
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cait |
ok fo rme |
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cait |
put a name yet or later? |
| 14:28 |
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cait |
mkaing 2 prio 1 too, i think it's in line with deletedborrowers and statistics, to get a clean state |
| 14:29 |
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cait |
someone willing to work on 2? |
| 14:29 |
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cait |
hm we have a way to delete them, so maybe prio 2 actually |
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cait |
prio 2 = we have something, but not perfect yet. ok? |
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josef_moravec_ |
ok |
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cait |
cookie docs |
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cait |
1 or 2? |
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wahanui |
3 |
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cait |
heh wahanui |
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wahanui |
heh i am good |
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josef_moravec_ |
2 |
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cait |
keep updating the page, i am adding and saving :) |
| 14:31 |
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josef_moravec_ |
cait++ |
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cait |
SoniaB: we have something for old issues |
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cait |
i think we need another for old reserves |
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cait |
hm or maybe one for both |
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cait |
3 is abit more complicated than just anonymizing |
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cait |
hm but i think there is a script if they set to default, so maybe only need a script for old_reserves too |
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josef_moravec_ |
maybe just enhance the script we have? |
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josef_moravec_ |
not sure now ;) |
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m23 |
edhance looks lika stright way |
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cait |
I've added 15 as a reminder |
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m23 |
whats about 9 Administration Staff client should not be publicly accessed, even the access to login form should be restricted. |
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cait |
we can still merge them, after more investigation |
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m23 |
Its just about Apache settings? |
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cait |
hm i think one idea was to make the ip settings on branch more flexible |
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cait |
more than one ip |
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m23 |
Cait: it will be nice |
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cait |
one ip rarely works, so it's probably not used much |
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cait |
someone up to working on it? |
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cait |
prio2? |
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cait |
ah the other idea was apache yep |
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josef_moravec_ |
prio 2 |
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cait |
prio 2 for 9? |
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cait |
done |
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cait |
ok 4 5 6 |
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cait |
i think plugins are realy up to the library, i'd put 3 or 4 |
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cait |
hm a permission |
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wahanui |
a permission is a blocker |
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cait |
but then we'd have plugin authors to make sure they implement the permission, can't force them |
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josef_moravec_ |
yes, plugins are problematic |
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cait |
but also totally optional |
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cait |
maybe not super high priority |
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josef_moravec_ |
agree |
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cait |
3? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... 3 is not. |
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josef_moravec_ |
3 |
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cait |
14 logrotate policy |
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cait |
i think we just recently stopped a change there to keep them almost forever |
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cait |
might be good to document somewhere that we don't want that :) |
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hands josef_moravec_ the duct tape |
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m23 |
Sorry, can we set higher prio to 3 Prio 3 Privacy/anonymization |
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cait |
m23: can you explainß |
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cait |
? |
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m23 |
Its important |
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cait |
at the moment the choice is on the user and you can have a default with a script run |
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cait |
well you can also not offer the user the choice, but then anonymize immediately or afteer x days i think |
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cait |
the addition is only for gui in staff |
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cait |
but we can, make it 2 or 1? |
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m23 |
2 if we can :-) |
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cait |
i am never quite sure if the staff should be able to change it |
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cait |
probably needs to be logged |
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cait |
updated |
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cait |
hm data portability |
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cait |
10 |
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josef_moravec__ |
#14 is not high priority I think our defaults are Ok and sysadmin can always change it |
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cait |
prio 3? |
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josef_moravec__ |
maybe 4 ;) |
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cait |
done |
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cait |
ok a few remaining |
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cait |
start at the top |
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cait |
4 - reports |
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josef_moravec__ |
2? |
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wahanui |
2 is, like, pretty awesome |
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cait |
yeah |
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josef_moravec__ |
thank you wahanui ;) |
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cait |
we have an existing permission at least, just not granular |
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cait |
waht was the discussion, add a flag to them? |
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josef_moravec__ |
cait: that's the easiest way ;) |
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cait |
true |
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josef_moravec__ |
and probably ok for start |
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cait |
added |
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cait |
6 - backups |
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josef_moravec__ |
prio 4 |
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josef_moravec__ |
it's the same class as #14 i think |
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cait |
can already be done by sysadm |
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josef_moravec__ |
exactly |
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cc_ |
once we actually delete and anonymize users what can be exposed by reports is reduced |
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josef_moravec__ |
cc_: true, but that's for case when user which could run reports should not see personal data at all |
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josef_moravec__ |
for example |
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cait |
we had the case with student helpers |
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cait |
they look for missing items and do other clean up tasks, but should not see patron data |
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cait |
or be able to download them |
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cait |
i thnk having some granularity in permissions woudl be nice to have |
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SoniaB |
cait++ |
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cc_ |
agreed I'm just saying priority should be after the core of removing data |
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cait |
prio 3 then for 4? |
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cait |
it's 2 now |
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josef_moravec__ |
prio 2.5 ;) |
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cait |
i refuse that :) |
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cait |
number 8 - log when koha-dump is run |
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cait |
shoud this be a new log option separate from cronjobs log? |
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cait |
cronjobs log is very noisy, it might be better |
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josef_moravec__ |
but it's logical to log this to crnjobslog |
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cait |
true |
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cait |
just looked into the bug |
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cait |
maybe long have some options there, but for now in cronjobs log |
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cait |
prio? |
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josef_moravec__ |
3 |
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m23 |
3 I think |
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cait |
done |
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cait |
next is 10 |
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josef_moravec__ |
prio 2 |
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cait |
hm ok |
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cait |
close to 1 for us, but the other are more important even |
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cait |
Prio 1.5? ;) |
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cait |
11 |
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cait |
cookie banner |
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cait |
we just had a big customer ask for it |
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cait |
they have their own solution to implement |
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cait |
the problem is that the e-privacy law is not done yet I think? |
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m23 |
GDPR SET NEW VIEW ON AGREEMENT |
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cait |
so we don't know if it will be required? |
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cait |
m23: hm? |
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m23 |
if we ask customer ti agree, we need to offer way if tehy dont agree |
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cait |
right now we can only inform |
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cait |
not storing cookies will be harder and def need some implementation in Koha |
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m23 |
without chceck button? |
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cait |
the one i've been working on haas a link to the documentation |
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cait |
including information about own/third party cookies |
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cait |
and a checkbox to say 'seen' |
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cait |
when you have 'seen' it it sets a cookie so it doesn't reappear all the time |
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cait |
that's the latest I know |
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cait |
I can't tell if it's enough in all cases |
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m23 |
if cookia banner is just information about data that we store, we can list here all data that we collected, like IP |
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cait |
store if you use the website |
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cait |
but yep, you shoudl list what you have in your logs in whatever page it links too |
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cait |
ip is a personal data |
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cait |
but we can't know these things, we could just offer a configurable url maybe |
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m23 |
we can store IP, because we need for law purposes, because libraryry statistic |
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cait |
we don't need it, so it's cut i think |
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josef_moravec__ |
but it does apply in czech republic.. |
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josef_moravec__ |
not in germany, as cait said right now ;) |
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cait |
afaik it's still a bit of a grey area if you need a cookie banner |
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cait |
lots here do it now to be on the safe side |
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josef_moravec__ |
cait++ |
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josef_moravec__ |
so prio 2 |
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josef_moravec__ |
? |
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m23 |
Its depend on library and conty law |
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m23 |
country |
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cait |
m23: right now yes, I think the e-privacy regulation? is supposed to fix that |
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cait |
but it's nt done |
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m23 |
cait: e-privacy we neet to solve to, but later :-) |
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cait |
i think i can#t really translate well what i am trying to explain |
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cait |
it's a new EU thing that will accompany the GDPR |
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cait |
but it won't be ready for may |
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josef_moravec__ |
e-privacy? Does it mean we will need another wiki page like this one? ;) |
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cait |
looking for an english link |
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cait |
ePrivacy directive maybe |
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josef_moravec__ |
this one? http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUr[…]2002L0058:en:HTML |
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cc_ |
https://ec.europa.eu/digital-s[…]rivacy-regulation |
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cait |
https://www.eprivacy.eu/en/abo[…]-online-industry/ |
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cc_ |
part of the intention is to simplyfy the requirements re cookies |
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josef_moravec__ |
ah, thanks |
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cait |
the problem is it will take effect later than the GDPR |
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cait |
so we don't quite knwo yet |
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cait |
cc_: that about right? |
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m23 |
e-privacy is on the way, date not set |
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cait |
i will put the banner thing on prio 2 |
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cait |
i think just informing is possible now with some custom javascript |
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cait |
but we probably need to talk about the eprivacy directive again at another meeting? |
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cait |
of the prio 1 items: Josef works on 1 and 7 |
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cc_ |
yes - detail not complete but it does distinguish between cookies to run you site and user tracking which were a bit confused in current rules |
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cait |
15 still needs someone to look into it |
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m23 |
ok, is something more specicif, focus is on the data transfrer security like postal security |
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cait |
someone for 15? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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m23 |
video about black vision about eprivacy https://vimeo.com/236635324 |
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cait |
ok, maybe later? |
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cait |
#info We are looking for someone to take care of 15 - anonymizsation of old_reserves |
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cait |
should we conclude the meeting with this and meet again in a few weeks? |
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SoniaB |
cait: Ok for me |
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cc_ |
yes |
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cait |
#info If you plan to work on an issue, please mark it on the wiki |
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cait |
josef_moravec__: ? |
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josef_moravec__ |
i am ok with it |
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cait |
ok, ending meeting, make suggestions for new date later. |
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cait |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Apr 18 15:13:55 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-18-14.05.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-04-18-14.05.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]18-14.05.log.html |
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josef_moravec__ |
cait++ |
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cait |
josef_moravec++ thx for taking on 2 of them |
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m23 |
thanks to Cait and Josef |
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SoniaB |
yes, thanks cait and josef ! |
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SoniaB |
Bye |
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cait |
have to run too... dentist :( |
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cait |
bye all! |
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m23 |
bye |
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cc_ |
bye |
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* LeeJ |
waves |
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LeeJ |
hi #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, LeeJ |
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waves to mtompset |
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LeeJ |
davidnind++++++++++++++++++++ |
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LeeJ |
for all those enhancement entries :) |
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davidnind |
still a few more to go....... |
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Joubu |
hum, if you have many, let me know |
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Joubu |
I have scripts to deal with bz<>taiga |
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LeeJ |
davidnind: I just finished adding the last of the current Cataloging list |
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LeeJ |
thanks for the info Joubu :) |
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davidnind |
excellent LeeJ++ |
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davidnind |
working on the template ones - find it easier to prep in a text editor, then paste in |
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LeeJ |
that's true lol |
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LeeJ |
I'm taking a short break to stretch my legs then working on more |
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sabrina_ |
Ok , so I am new to this whole thing. I am needing to know what tye of barcode scanner is needed to work with Koha |
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oleonard |
sabrina_: Koha does not set any requirements for barcode scanners. |
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oleonard |
sabrina_: As long as your scanner is sending the correct data as text to the browser, it will work. |
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sabrina_ |
Thank you! |
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davidnind |
https://koha-community.org/man[…]ous.html#hardware |
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davidnind |
oh well, sabrina_ has left - has a little bit of info about barcode scanners |
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* cait |
survived the dentist :) |
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davidnind |
LeeJ: Circulation tasks added |
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LeeJ |
you're the best davidnind |
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davidnind |
ocassionaly :-D |
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LeeJ |
constantly :D |
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davidnind |
LeeJ: Command-line utilities tasks added |
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* LeeJ |
cheers davidnind on |
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davidnind |
am very practiced at procrastination... |
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LeeJ |
davidnind: never forget..diamonds are created under pressure ;) |
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davidnind |
feelingO:-) |
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LeeJ |
davidnind: by the way..I was going to send an email but since you're here..I talked with Joubu yesterday and he said not to worry about documenting the bugfixes so we can skip creating tasks for them..saves a lot of time :) |
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davidnind |
tasks up to lists added |
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LeeJ |
davidnind++ |
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davidnind |
excellent - that sounds very pragmatic. I guess in theory the bug fixes shouldn't affect the documentation - just making things work as intended. |
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LeeJ |
davidnind: I'm adding a new user story for new sysprefs to keep everything separate :) |
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davidnind |
as an aside, it is nice to see so many enhancements - everyone has been very busy getting these through the process and into Koha! |
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* cait |
cheers LeeJ and davidnind on :) |
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LeeJ |
yes! Our cataloger will be super excited for the Rancor enhancements! |
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* cait |
is excited too :) |
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cait |
davidnind++ LeeJ++ |
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LeeJ |
cait: :D |
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Joubu |
LeeJ: there is the new pref list on the release notes, you saw it right? :) |
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cait |
i have some more good tihngs with new follow-ups in qa queue tonight, keep fingers crossed! |
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LeeJ |
Joubu: I did! That's what prompted me to create a new user story! |
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davidnind |
good idea to track these separately - at least we should be able to get system preferences incorporated. |
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LeeJ |
Joubu: those release notes make it SO much easier to work with |
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davidnind |
.. into the manual |
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cait |
notice template codes woud be nice too |
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cait |
and authorised values categories |
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cait |
i tthink we didn't quite finish those |
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Joubu |
LeeJ: the release notes will also contain the syspref we removed/renamed, it's done manually just before the release |
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cait |
did you see the email on the mailng list about missing the big item stable? I haven't had time to look for it yet, but can't remember we removed it |
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LeeJ |
cait: I don't recall, no |
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cait |
making dinner, bbia |
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cait |
b |
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LeeJ |
cait: enjoy! |
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cait |
hi severine :) |
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cait |
thx for your testing! |
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cait |
i'll try to work on qa |
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severine |
hello cait ! |
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severine |
have fun :) |
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severine |
I plan to test a lot tomorrow (block my day for that actually), so let me know if you have some urgent stuff to test |
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severine |
that would be a pleasure ! |
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LeeJ |
davidnind: I'll let you go off on your task tangent..so just let me know when you've had your fill and I'll work on it :) don't want to be stepping on each other's toes ;) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
the batch edit things are great |
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cait |
but one is signed off now i think already :) |
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Joubu |
oleonard: bug 20614 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20614 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Firefox prevents parent page reload when renewing subscriptions |
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Joubu |
(not asking you to SO, just for you information) :) |
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davidnind |
LeeJ: finished for the moment - we wouldn't want to double up on tasks... |
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davidnind |
breakfast now then work |
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davidnind |
will continue when I get home this evening - hopefully I can get all the rest done |
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davidnind |
have prepared the template changes, but thought it best to add in same order as the draft release notes |
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severine |
need to eat... go back for test in a moment :) |
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cait |
hm eat... yep good idea |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
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LeeJ |
davidnind: thanks for a job well done! |
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LeeJ |
I'll work on more now so I'll leave you a later when I'm done so you know where to pick up when you're back at it! |
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davidnind |
Thanks! LeeJ++ |
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LeeJ |
davidnind: so since you have templates in the works..I'll add from after notices and stop at templates, sound good? |
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davidnind |
Sounds good! |
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LeeJ |
:D |
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waves |
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andreashm |
oh, missed the gdpr meeting today. =( |
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LeeJ |
well I'm heading out to do more docs work...have a good night all |
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Joubu |
@later tell khall please re-read this wiki page https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]messages#Examples especially the follow-up part. There are also checks in the QA script to catch "bad" commit messages |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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CrispyBran |
TGoat, are you there? |
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TGoat |
Yo CrispyBran what's up? |
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CrispyBran |
Will you make sure bw ticket 49181 is opened back up. Still seeing issue. I sent a reply, but I don't know if it has been noticed. |
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Joubu |
whois andrew |
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LeeJ |
@later tell davidnind finished adding everything up to Templates! Tag you're it! |
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huginn |
LeeJ: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
not the andrew I am looking for |
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cait |
AndrewIsh? |
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wahanui |
AndrewIsh is thoroughly puzzled then :) |
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wizzyrea |
joubu is a jedi |
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cait |
well... that's actually a good explanation |
| 21:16 |
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andrew |
I’m andrew :) |
| 21:16 |
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Joubu |
@later tell AndrewIsh please read https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]messages#Examples and update your qa-test-tools repo |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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Joubu |
@seen AndrewIsh |
| 21:17 |
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huginn |
Joubu: AndrewIsh was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 27 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <AndrewIsh> OK, thanks cait |
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Joubu |
thanks cait ;) |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
btw bug 20555 |
| 21:18 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , usage() function in cleanup_database.pl needs refactoring |
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cait |
hm not that one |
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cait |
bug 20554 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, ASSIGNED , New OPAC CSS |
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cait |
just wanted to mention it..:) |
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Joubu |
cait: why assigned? |
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cait |
hm not sure |
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cait |
might still need a rebase |
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cait |
:( |
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