Time  Nick            Message
21:21 cait            :(
21:21 cait            might still need a rebase
21:21 cait            hm not sure
21:20 Joubu           cait: why assigned?
21:19 cait            just wanted to mention it..:)
21:18 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20554 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, claire_gravely, ASSIGNED , New OPAC CSS
21:18 cait            bug 20554
21:18 cait            hm not that one
21:18 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20555 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , usage() function in cleanup_database.pl needs refactoring
21:18 cait            btw bug 20555
21:17 cait            :)
21:17 Joubu           thanks cait ;)
21:17 huginn          Joubu: AndrewIsh was last seen in #koha 1 day, 9 hours, 27 minutes, and 45 seconds ago: <AndrewIsh> OK, thanks cait
21:17 Joubu           @seen AndrewIsh
21:16 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
21:16 Joubu           @later tell AndrewIsh please read https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages#Examples and update your qa-test-tools repo
21:16 andrew          I’m andrew :)
21:16 cait            well... that's actually a good explanation
21:16 wizzyrea        joubu is a jedi
21:16 wahanui         AndrewIsh is thoroughly puzzled then :)
21:16 cait            AndrewIsh?
21:15 Joubu           not the andrew I am looking for
21:15 huginn          LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
21:15 LeeJ            @later tell davidnind finished adding everything up to Templates! Tag you're it!
21:15 Joubu           whois andrew
21:05 CrispyBran      Will you make sure bw ticket 49181 is opened back up.  Still seeing issue.  I sent a reply, but I don't know if it has been noticed.
21:04 TGoat           Yo CrispyBran what's up?
21:04 CrispyBran      TGoat, are you there?
20:40 huginn          Joubu: The operation succeeded.
20:40 Joubu           @later tell khall please re-read this wiki page https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Commit_messages#Examples especially the follow-up part. There are also checks in the QA script to catch "bad" commit messages
20:15 LeeJ            well I'm heading out to do more docs work...have a good night all
19:44 andreashm       oh, missed the gdpr meeting today. =(
19:42 * andreashm     waves
19:06 LeeJ            :D
19:06 davidnind       Sounds good!
19:05 LeeJ            davidnind: so since you have templates in the works..I'll add from after notices and stop at templates, sound good?
19:05 davidnind       Thanks! LeeJ++
19:02 LeeJ            I'll work on more now so I'll leave you a later when I'm done so you know where to pick up when you're back at it!
19:02 LeeJ            davidnind: thanks for a job well done!
18:57 oleonard        Bye #koha
18:47 cait            hm eat... yep good idea
18:44 severine        need to eat... go back for test in a moment :)
18:43 davidnind       have prepared the template changes, but thought it best to add in same order as the draft release notes
18:43 davidnind       will continue when I get home this evening - hopefully I can get all the rest done
18:43 davidnind       breakfast now then work
18:43 davidnind       LeeJ: finished for the moment - we wouldn't want to double up on tasks...
18:40 Joubu           (not asking you to SO, just for you information) :)
18:40 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20614 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Firefox prevents parent page reload when renewing subscriptions
18:40 Joubu           oleonard: bug 20614
18:39 cait            but one is signed off now i think already :)
18:39 cait            the batch edit things are great
18:38 cait            :)
18:38 LeeJ            davidnind: I'll let you go off on your task tangent..so just let me know when you've had your fill and I'll work on it :) don't want to be stepping on each other's toes ;)
18:38 severine        that would be a pleasure !
18:38 severine        I plan to test a lot tomorrow (block my day for that actually), so let me know if you have some urgent stuff to test
18:37 severine        have fun :)
18:36 severine        hello cait !
18:29 cait            i'll try to work on qa
18:29 cait            thx for your testing!
18:29 cait            hi severine :)
18:26 LeeJ            cait: enjoy!
18:25 cait            b
18:25 cait            making dinner, bbia
18:16 LeeJ            cait: I don't recall, no
18:15 cait            did you see the email on the mailng list about missing the big item stable? I haven't had time to look for it yet, but can't remember we removed it
18:15 Joubu           LeeJ: the release notes will also contain the syspref we removed/renamed, it's done manually just before the release
18:14 cait            i tthink we didn't quite finish those
18:14 cait            and authorised values categories
18:14 cait            notice template codes woud be nice too
18:14 davidnind       .. into the manual
18:14 LeeJ            Joubu: those release notes make it SO much easier to work with
18:14 davidnind       good idea to track these separately - at least we should be able to get system preferences incorporated.
18:14 LeeJ            Joubu: I did! That's what prompted me to create a new user story!
18:14 cait            i have some more good tihngs with new follow-ups in qa queue tonight, keep fingers crossed!
18:13 Joubu           LeeJ: there is the new pref list on the release notes, you saw it right? :)
18:13 LeeJ            cait: :D
18:13 cait            davidnind++ LeeJ++
18:13 * cait          is excited too :)
18:13 LeeJ            yes! Our cataloger will be super excited for the Rancor enhancements!
18:12 * cait          cheers LeeJ and davidnind on :)
18:12 davidnind       as an aside, it is nice to see so many enhancements - everyone has been very busy getting these through the process and into Koha!
18:12 LeeJ            davidnind: I'm adding a new user story for new sysprefs to keep everything separate :)
18:10 davidnind       excellent - that sounds very pragmatic. I guess in theory the bug fixes shouldn't affect the documentation - just making things work as intended.
18:10 LeeJ            davidnind++
18:09 davidnind       tasks up to lists added
18:09 LeeJ            davidnind: by the way..I was going to send an email but since you're here..I talked with Joubu yesterday and he said not to worry about documenting the bugfixes so we can skip creating tasks for them..saves a lot of time :)
18:08 davidnind       feelingO:-)
18:01 LeeJ            davidnind: never forget..diamonds are created under pressure ;)
17:53 davidnind       am very practiced at procrastination...
17:52 * LeeJ          cheers davidnind on
17:52 davidnind       LeeJ: Command-line utilities tasks added
17:48 LeeJ            constantly :D
17:44 davidnind       ocassionaly :-D
17:44 LeeJ            you're the best davidnind
17:42 davidnind       LeeJ: Circulation tasks added
17:33 * cait          survived the dentist :)
16:43 davidnind       oh well, sabrina_ has left - has a little bit of info about barcode scanners
16:42 davidnind       https://koha-community.org/manual/17.11/en/html/17_miscellaneous.html#hardware
16:41 sabrina_        Thank you!
16:40 oleonard        sabrina_: As long as your scanner is sending the correct data as text to the browser, it will work.
16:39 oleonard        sabrina_: Koha does not set any requirements for barcode scanners.
16:38 sabrina_        Ok , so I am new to this whole thing. I am needing to know what tye of barcode scanner is needed to work with Koha
16:35 LeeJ            I'm taking a short break to stretch my legs then working on more
16:34 LeeJ            that's true lol
16:34 davidnind       working on the template ones - find it easier to prep in a text editor, then paste in
16:32 davidnind       excellent LeeJ++
16:32 LeeJ            thanks for the info Joubu :)
16:32 LeeJ            davidnind: I just finished adding the last of the current Cataloging list
16:31 Joubu           I have scripts to deal with bz<>taiga
16:31 Joubu           hum, if you have many, let me know
16:31 davidnind       still a few more to go.......
16:30 LeeJ            for all those enhancement entries :)
16:30 LeeJ            davidnind++++++++++++++++++++
16:08 * LeeJ          waves to mtompset
16:08 mtompset        Greetings, LeeJ
15:49 LeeJ            hi #koha
15:49 * LeeJ          waves
15:15 cc_             bye
15:15 m23             bye
15:15 cait            bye all!
15:15 cait            have to run too... dentist :(
15:15 SoniaB          Bye
15:14 SoniaB          yes, thanks cait and josef !
15:14 m23             thanks to Cait and Josef
15:14 cait            josef_moravec++ thx for taking on 2 of them
15:14 josef_moravec__ cait++
15:13 huginn          Log:            http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/gdpr_irc_meeting_18_april_2018.2018-04-18-14.05.log.html
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15:13 huginn          Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community.org/2018/gdpr_irc_meeting_18_april_2018.2018-04-18-14.05.html
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15:13 cait            #endmeeting
15:13 cait            ok, ending meeting, make suggestions for new date later.
15:13 josef_moravec__ i am ok with it
15:13 cait            josef_moravec__: ?
15:13 cait            #info If you plan to work on an issue, please mark it on the wiki
15:12 cc_             yes
15:12 SoniaB          cait: Ok for me
15:11 cait            should we conclude the meeting with this and meet again in a few weeks?
15:11 cait            #info We are looking for someone to take care of 15  - anonymizsation of old_reserves
15:11 cait            ok, maybe later?
15:11 m23             video about black vision about eprivacy https://vimeo.com/236635324
15:10 reiveune        bye
15:09 cait            someone for 15?
15:09 m23             ok, is something more specicif, focus is on the data transfrer security like postal security
15:08 cait            15 still needs someone to look into it
15:08 cc_             yes - detail not complete but it does distinguish between cookies to run you site and user tracking which were a bit confused in current rules
15:08 cait            of the prio 1 items: Josef works on 1 and 7
15:07 cait            but we probably need to talk about the eprivacy directive again at another meeting?
15:07 cait            i think just informing is possible now with some custom javascript
15:07 cait            i will put the banner thing on prio 2
15:06 m23             e-privacy is on the way, date not set
15:06 cait            cc_: that about right?
15:06 cait            so we don't quite knwo yet
15:05 cait            the problem is it will take effect later than the GDPR
15:05 josef_moravec__ ah, thanks
15:05 cc_             part of the intention is to simplyfy the requirements re cookies
15:05 cait            https://www.eprivacy.eu/en/about-us/news-press/news-detail/article/what-does-the-eprivacy-regulation-mean-for-the-online-industry/
15:04 cc_             https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/proposal-eprivacy-regulation
15:04 josef_moravec__ this one? http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32002L0058:en:HTML
15:03 cait            ePrivacy directive maybe
15:03 cait            looking for an english link
15:03 josef_moravec__ e-privacy? Does it mean we will need another wiki page like this one? ;)
15:03 cait            but it won't be ready for may
15:03 cait            it's a new EU thing that will accompany the GDPR
15:02 cait            i think i can#t really translate well what i am trying to explain
15:02 m23             cait: e-privacy we neet to solve to, but later :-)
15:01 cait            but it's nt done
15:01 cait            m23: right now yes, I think the e-privacy regulation? is supposed to fix that
15:01 m23             country
15:01 m23             Its depend on library and conty law
15:01 josef_moravec__ ?
15:01 josef_moravec__ so prio 2
15:01 josef_moravec__ cait++
15:01 cait            lots here do it now to be on the safe side
15:01 cait            afaik it's still a bit of a grey area if you need a cookie banner
15:00 josef_moravec__ not in germany, as cait said right now ;)
15:00 josef_moravec__ but it does apply in czech republic..
15:00 cait            we don't need it, so it's cut i think
15:00 m23             we can store IP, because we need for law purposes, because libraryry statistic
14:59 cait            but we can't know these things, we could just offer a configurable url maybe
14:58 cait            ip is a personal data
14:58 cait            but yep, you shoudl list what you have in your logs in whatever page it links too
14:58 cait            store if you use the website
14:58 m23             if cookia banner is just information about data that we store, we can list here all data that we collected, like IP
14:58 cait            I can't tell if it's enough in all cases
14:57 cait            that's the latest I know
14:57 cait            when you have 'seen' it it sets a cookie so it doesn't reappear all the time
14:57 cait            and a checkbox to say 'seen'
14:57 cait            including information about own/third party cookies
14:57 cait            the one i've been working on haas a link to the documentation
14:56 m23             without chceck button?
14:56 cait            not storing cookies will be harder and def need some implementation in Koha
14:56 cait            right now we can only inform
14:56 m23             if we ask customer ti agree, we need to offer way if tehy dont agree
14:56 cait            m23: hm?
14:55 cait            so we don't know if it will be required?
14:55 m23             GDPR SET NEW VIEW ON AGREEMENT
14:55 cait            the problem is that the e-privacy law is not done yet I think?
14:55 cait            they have their own solution to implement
14:55 cait            we just had a big customer ask for it
14:55 cait            cookie banner
14:55 cait            11
14:55 cait            Prio 1.5? ;)
14:54 cait            close to 1 for us, but the other are more important even
14:54 cait            hm ok
14:54 josef_moravec__ prio 2
14:54 cait            next is 10
14:54 cait            done
14:53 m23             3 I think
14:53 josef_moravec__  3
14:53 cait            prio?
14:53 cait            maybe long have some options there, but for now in cronjobs log
14:53 cait            just looked into the bug
14:53 cait            true
14:53 josef_moravec__ but it's logical to log this to crnjobslog
14:52 cait            cronjobs log is very noisy, it might be better
14:52 cait            shoud this be a new log option separate from cronjobs log?
14:51 cait            number 8 - log when koha-dump is run
14:51 cait            i refuse that :)
14:51 josef_moravec__ prio 2.5 ;)
14:50 cait            it's 2 now
14:50 cait            prio 3 then for 4?
14:50 cc_             agreed I'm just saying priority should be after the core of removing data
14:50 SoniaB          cait++
14:49 cait            i thnk having some granularity in permissions woudl be nice to have
14:49 cait            or be able to download them
14:49 cait            they look for missing items and do other clean up tasks, but should not see patron data
14:49 cait            we had the case with student helpers
14:49 josef_moravec__ for example
14:49 josef_moravec__ cc_: true, but that's for case when user which could run reports should not see personal data at all
14:48 cc_             once we actually delete and anonymize users what can be exposed by reports is reduced
14:48 josef_moravec__ exactly
14:48 cait            can already be done by sysadm
14:48 josef_moravec__ it's the same class as #14 i think
14:47 josef_moravec__ prio 4
14:47 cait            6 - backups
14:47 cait            added
14:47 josef_moravec__ and probably ok for start
14:47 cait            true
14:46 josef_moravec__ cait: that's the easiest way ;)
14:46 cait            waht was the discussion, add a flag to them?
14:46 cait            we have an existing permission at least, just not granular
14:46 josef_moravec__ thank you wahanui ;)
14:46 cait            yeah
14:46 wahanui         2 is, like, pretty awesome
14:46 josef_moravec__ 2?
14:45 cait            4 - reports
14:45 cait            start at the top
14:45 cait            ok a few remaining
14:45 cait            done
14:45 josef_moravec__ maybe 4 ;)
14:45 cait            prio 3?
14:44 josef_moravec__ #14 is not high priority I think our defaults are Ok and sysadmin can always change it
14:44 cait            10
14:44 cait            hm data portability
14:44 cait            updated
14:44 cait            probably needs to be logged
14:43 cait            i am never quite sure if the staff should be able to change it
14:43 m23             2 if we can :-)
14:43 cait            but we can, make it 2 or 1?
14:43 cait            the addition is only for gui in staff
14:43 cait            well you can also not offer the user the choice, but then anonymize immediately or afteer x days i think
14:42 cait            at the moment the choice is on the user and you can have a default with a script run
14:42 m23             Its important
14:42 cait            ?
14:42 cait            m23: can you explainß
14:42 m23             Sorry, can we set higher prio to 3 	Prio 3 		Privacy/anonymization
14:42 * cait          hands josef_moravec_ the duct tape
14:41 cait            might be good to document somewhere that we don't want that :)
14:41 cait            i think we just recently stopped a change there to keep them almost forever
14:41 cait            14 logrotate policy
14:40 josef_moravec_   3
14:40 wahanui         hmmm... 3 is not.
14:40 cait            3?
14:39 josef_moravec_  agree
14:39 cait            maybe not super high priority
14:39 cait            but also totally optional
14:39 josef_moravec_  yes, plugins are problematic
14:39 cait            but then we'd have plugin authors to make sure they implement the permission, can't force them
14:39 wahanui         a permission is a blocker
14:39 cait            hm a permission
14:38 cait            i think plugins are realy up to the library, i'd put 3 or 4
14:38 cait            ok 4 5 6
14:38 cait            done
14:38 cait            prio 2 for 9?
14:37 josef_moravec_  prio 2
14:36 cait            ah the other idea was apache yep
14:35 cait            prio2?
14:35 cait            someone up to working on it?
14:35 cait            one ip rarely works, so it's probably not used much
14:35 m23             Cait: it will be nice
14:34 cait            more than one ip
14:34 cait            hm i think one idea was to make the ip settings on branch more flexible
14:34 m23             Its just about Apache settings?
14:34 cait            we can still merge them, after more investigation
14:34 m23             whats about 9 			Administration 	Staff client should not be publicly accessed, even the access to login form should be restricted.
14:33 cait            I've added 15 as a reminder
14:33 m23             edhance looks lika stright way
14:33 josef_moravec_  not sure now ;)
14:33 josef_moravec_  maybe just enhance the script we have?
14:32 cait            hm but i think there is a script if they set to default, so maybe only need a script for old_reserves too
14:32 cait            3 is abit more complicated than just anonymizing
14:31 cait            hm or maybe one for both
14:31 cait            i think we need another for old reserves
14:31 cait            SoniaB: we have something for old issues
14:31 josef_moravec_  cait++
14:31 cait            keep updating the page, i am adding and saving :)
14:31 josef_moravec_   2
14:30 wahanui         heh i am good
14:30 cait            heh wahanui
14:30 wahanui          3
14:30 cait            1 or 2?
14:30 cait            cookie docs
14:30 josef_moravec_  ok
14:29 cait            prio 2 = we have something, but not perfect yet. ok?
14:29 cait            hm we have a way to delete them, so maybe prio 2 actually
14:29 cait            someone willing to work on 2?
14:28 cait            mkaing 2 prio 1 too, i think it's in line with deletedborrowers and statistics, to get a clean state
14:28 cait            put a name yet or later?
14:28 cait            ok fo rme
14:28 m23             3 			Privacy/anonymizatio prio 3?
14:27 cait            ok making 7 prio 1 an djosef
14:27 SoniaB          I don't really know how to help
14:27 SoniaB          #7 : statistics is important too in France
14:26 cait            i think maybe make 2 prio 1 too
14:26 josef_moravec_  number #7 - I am working on patch for 20606
14:26 josef_moravec_  I think #13 is a bit more complicated - depends on some settings of system which should be investigated more
14:25 cait            prio 1 or prio 2? for 7? who will work on it?
14:25 cait            and it's the way to more anonymization
14:25 m23             7 			Statistics  importatnt for Czech libraries
14:25 cait            ah that was for self reg?
14:25 cait            13 sorry
14:25 cait            is that like a cookie banner? or more complicated?
14:24 josef_moravec_  what about #10 or #11/#12/#13 ?
14:23 m23             Privacy/anonymization : prio 2?
14:23 cait            first changes saved
14:23 cait            but there are still white spaces, everyone is invited to add
14:23 cait            I will put BSZ down for the initial Cookie documentation, calire has worked some more on it
14:22 cait            working on the table, please pick the next prio
14:21 josef_moravec_  Yes I will take it
14:20 m23             Cait: great
14:20 cait            josef_moravec_: can I add you for 1?
14:20 josef_moravec_  cait: good idea
14:20 cait            i will add priority to the table
14:20 cait            especially for deletedborrowers
14:19 cait            anonymizing is a big prio
14:19 cait            I agree
14:19 josef_moravec_  cait: thanks
14:19 m23             Cait: Yes
14:19 cait            just repeating for josef_moravec_
14:19 cait            (16:18:06) cait: should we prioritize and then try to find someone responsible to keep track of it/work on it?
14:19 cait            (16:17:52) cait: who has dev time to spend on the issues?
14:19 SoniaB          Is there already patches related to 18081 ready to test (I haven't open them all, sorry) ?
14:18 cait            should we prioritize and then try to find someone responsible to keep track of it/work on it?
14:17 cait            who has dev time tos pend on the issues?
14:17 m23             Anonymizing patrons and their history are mandatory task
14:17 cait            scripts like this could be probably backported
14:16 josef_moravec_  I am working on patch for anonymizing patrons, but not ready yet
14:16 cait            w can see when they were cancelled/filled and anonymize after x days by script
14:16 josef_moravec_  Unfortunately, I don't think we done much ;(
14:15 cait            we could still discuss anonymizing older entries maybe
14:15 josef_moravec_  but yes, we should take care of these two too
14:15 josef_moravec_  SoniaB: ideally the old_issues and old_reserves should be merged into issues/reserves tables
14:15 m23             board :-)
14:14 SoniaB          cait: yes, if necessary. I haven't the exaxt content of those tables in mind
14:14 m23             hi, Mike on the beard
14:13 cait            SoniaB: for anonymizing?
14:13 SoniaB          josef_moravec_: should we add old_issues and old_reverves ?
14:12 cait            probably not
14:12 Joubu           will we be ready for 18.05?
14:11 Joubu           what has been done since last time?
14:11 Joubu           could you make a summary?
14:11 josef_moravec_  Do we wan't to go point by point like last time? Or just ask if anybody has anything to add?
14:10 josef_moravec_  #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Improve_data_protection_and_patron_privacy
14:10 SoniaB          cait: Hi, just in time :)
14:10 josef_moravec_  #topic Debate about improvements in Koha code
14:09 SoniaB          #info Sonia BOUIS Université Lyon 3 france
14:09 cait            hi SoniaB, we just do #info
14:07 Joubu           #info Jonathan Druart
14:07 cc_             #info Colin Campbell PTFS-Europe
14:06 cait            #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
14:06 josef_moravec_  #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici
14:06 wahanui         #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
14:06 josef_moravec_  #topic Introductions
14:06 cait            #link https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/GDPR_IRC_meeting_18_April_2018 Agenda
14:06 huginn          Current chairs: cait josef_moravec_
14:06 josef_moravec_  #chair cait
14:05 josef_moravec_  chair cait
14:05 huginn          The meeting name has been set to 'gdpr_irc_meeting_18_april_2018'
14:05 huginn          Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
14:05 huginn          Meeting started Wed Apr 18 14:05:53 2018 UTC.  The chair is josef_moravec_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
14:05 josef_moravec_  #startmeeting GDPR IRC meeting 18 April 2018
14:05 josef_moravec_  ;)
14:05 cait            kind of :)
14:05 josef_moravec_  ready for gdpr meeting?
13:47 Joubu           do not display the same (a vs input, but same classes)
13:47 Joubu           <div class="btn-group"><a href="#multi_receiving" role="button" class="btn btn-default btn-sm">Save</a></div>
13:46 Joubu           and
13:46 Joubu           <div class="btn-group"><input type="submit" value="Save" class="btn btn-default btn-sm"></div>
13:46 Joubu           for instance:
13:46 huginn          Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18327 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Failed QA , Add the ability to set the received date to today on multi receiving serials
13:46 Joubu           oleonard: yesterday I had trouble to use bootstrap styled buttons on bug 18327
13:42 Joubu           hi #koha
12:46 huginn          mtompset: magnuse was last seen in #koha 1 day, 23 hours, 41 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <magnuse> +1!
12:46 mtompset        @seen magnuse
12:46 mtompset        Greetings, #koha.
12:40 tuxayo          Indeed :)
12:38 oleonard        tuxayo: It would be nice if Koha warned you when you were importing bibliographic data with invalid authorized values/itemtypes/branch codes
12:38 cait            tuxayo: not allow you to import invalid itemtypes would be good, also branchcodes
12:37 cait            khall: thx for the follow-up :)
12:37 tuxayo          oleonard: which check should Koha perform?
12:36 cait            josef_moravec++
12:33 tcohen          hi cait!
12:33 cait            morning tcohen :)
12:33 cait            morning oleonard
12:32 tcohen          morning
12:30 oleonard        ...but I would prefer that Koha performed the check for us.
12:30 oleonard        The catalogers run reports regularly to catch the problems
12:29 oleonard        Not me, we don't use acquisitions ;)
12:29 tuxayo          «Can't call method "description" on an undefined value»
12:28 tuxayo          oleonard: You might also have issues when exporting a PDF of a basketgroup. https://gitlab.com/koha-community/Koha/blob/master/acqui/basketgroup.pl#L198
12:25 oleonard        tuxayo: I know that our catalogers sometimes import records with invalid itemtype codes and Koha doesn't complain.
12:23 tuxayo          There is no foreign key so I'm confused.
12:22 tuxayo          Can someone confirm if the values in biblioitems.itemtype must exist in the itemtypes table?
12:20 kidclamp        we did an index on ~1 million with no probs, but I think we had 8 or 16gb of ram
12:20 tuxayo          Is the RAM usage linear with the number of records?
12:20 kidclamp        nlegrand, you could try lowering the commmit number?
12:20 tuxayo          nlegrand: https://downloadmoreram.com
12:11 nlegrand        After a few seconds my swap is full.
12:11 nlegrand        I just happend to know the existance of oom-killer and it didn't please me so much.
12:10 nlegrand        Do people have swapping problems while reindexing authority with ES? With a fair amount like 1020683?
11:59 eythian         excellent :)
11:59 oleonard        eythian: I guessed what that was going to show me before it loaded :D
11:59 eythian         oleonard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tScAyNaRdQ
11:58 calire          real-meat. nice.
11:52 * oleonard      curses mildly at the margarine
11:50 kidclamp        hi darn oleo
11:50 kidclamp        meat-people
11:49 oleonard        Hello calire and wahanui, my two favorite real-meat people.
11:48 wahanui         hi dear loon
11:48 calire          hi oleonard
11:46 oleonard        Hi #koha
09:44 nlegrand        o/ andreashm
08:52 * andreashm     waves
08:10 nlegrand        Salut cait !
08:00 cait            bonjour nlegrand
07:58 nlegrand        Poum poum poum
06:36 reiveune        hello
06:33 alex_a          bonjour
02:20 tcohen          :-D
02:19 BobB            ok, back to work, take care tomas
02:19 BobB            dogs are like that - as long as the kids stay in, you're fine :)
02:19 * tcohen        is in the construction business lately hehe
02:18 tcohen          he
02:18 tcohen          the dog keeps escaping, but I will finish ironing the fence
02:18 tcohen          yes :-D
02:17 BobB            all good at your end? family well?
02:15 tcohen          hehe
02:14 BobB            albeit bleary eyed :)
02:13 BobB            I have a meeting in Sydney the day before, but the Qantas and the International Date Line might conspire to get me there on the first afternoon
02:13 * tcohen        hopes so!
02:13 tcohen          =D
02:13 tcohen          are you going?
02:13 BobB            cool, hoping to be there too
02:12 tcohen          Yes!
02:12 BobB            might you go to KohaCon18 tcohen?
02:12 tcohen          if someone wants to work on other distros or other ideas, everyone is welcome
02:11 BobB            awesome\
02:11 tcohen          and then try to install it, and check the results
02:11 tcohen          the next thing will be, the RM commits, we build the debian packages out of that (in a docker container, the koha-dpkg-docker thing)
02:11 BobB            my accountant's head spins at the stuff you guys do
02:10 BobB            very cool
02:10 tcohen          jonathan commits, jenkins picks that and retrieves the docker images, builds the testing environment, runs the tests, destroys the testing environment
02:10 BobB            Continuous Improvement in another life, but that did not fit :)
02:09 BobB            ah, ok
02:09 tcohen          jenkins
02:09 tcohen          Continous integration
02:09 BobB            in your Docker thread, what is CI?
02:09 BobB            good thanks, busy :)
02:08 tcohen          how are you doing!
02:08 tcohen          hi Bob
02:07 BobB            hi tcohen
02:05 wahanui         sleep tight
02:05 tcohen          good night!
02:05 tcohen          hi mtompset
02:04 mtompset        Have a great day, #koha tcohen
02:04 mtompset        I provided a counter patch on that.
02:04 * mtompset      grins.
01:49 huginn          tcohen: The operation succeeded.
01:49 tcohen          @later tell dcook have you seen my 'Official Koha Docker image' thread?
01:44 huginn          tcohen: dcook was last seen in #koha 22 hours and 15 seconds ago: <dcook> Oh also if someone wants a super easy pretty trivial sign off: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20592
01:44 tcohen          @seen dcook
01:43 tcohen          hi
01:17 huginn          mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 37 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <Joubu> nope, I guess it will change
01:17 mtompset        @seen Joubu