IRC log for #koha, 2017-04-03

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06:34 marcelr hi #koha
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06:41 reiveune hello
06:41 wahanui hi, reiveune
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06:52 marcelr @later tell khall please push the last followup patch of bug 17866 to fix updatedatabase
06:52 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
06:54 marcelr @later tell khall please push the last followup patch of bug 17866 to fix updatedatabase
06:54 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
06:54 marcelr oops
06:54 marcelr wrong window
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06:57 fridolin hie tere
06:58 mrkastan hi
06:58 wahanui que tal, mrkastan
06:58 marcelr hi fridolin
06:59 fridolin marcelr: LibraryClaire magnuse Bonjour à vous
06:59 LibraryClaire bonjour
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07:00 alex_a bonjour
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07:11 cait morning #koha
07:12 marcelr @later tell khall please push bug 18368 instead thx
07:12 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
07:12 marcelr hi cait
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07:12 mrkastan hi
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07:16 mrkastan actually, I might have a question - do you guys have an experience with running koha in library with huge biblio db? like huge with ~6.5 million records?
07:20 marcelr mrkastan: you should google for koha public libraries in Turkey with millions of records
07:23 mrkastan I see :) thanks
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07:26 * magnuse waves
07:26 marcelr @later tell khall hopefully the last one, but added yet another tiny followup to 17866
07:26 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded.
07:26 marcelr hi magnuse
07:26 wahanui kamelåså
07:26 magnuse :-)
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07:29 gaetan_B hello
07:29 wahanui hello, gaetan_B
07:29 mrkastan hi
07:29 wahanui niihau, mrkastan
07:34 oha o/
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07:40 marcelr jajm around
07:40 jajm marcelr, hi
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07:41 marcelr hi jajm: is the patch on bug 17309 for 3.22 only ?
07:41 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Renewing and HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref
07:41 marcelr if so, we could change it to Pushed to stable ?
07:42 jajm marcelr, i don't think it's only for 3.22, it has been tested on a sandbox
07:43 marcelr ok i will apply it on master to see
07:43 cait marcelr: did you see my comment? I think you also changed the sender for 2 other notices
07:44 marcelr cait: look at the report please
07:45 cait ah cool, just left the office for a moment :)
07:45 marcelr (so the answer is yes)
07:45 cait missed the new mails
07:45 marcelr i added a followup and changed the title
07:45 cait i changed it again heh
07:45 cait acqorder is not a claim
07:45 marcelr no i left that one out in the patch see commit message
07:45 cait but that will be more clear, thx
07:46 cait ah, i doubt the not used :)
07:46 cait at least judging by the libraries asking for it
07:46 marcelr not widely used
07:46 cait yep, but it's fine
07:46 marcelr you wrote it, so you will know
07:47 cait it's a thing that came up in almost every demo of acq and every training
07:47 cait why can we email claims but not orders? that makes no sense
07:47 cait i am so glad that it's there, not pretty, but a a start
07:47 marcelr yeah i have some custom patch mailing them for years
07:47 marcelr so when i upgrade i have to choose..
07:48 cait you can compare, yours might be better :)
07:48 cait at least if it's automatic
07:48 marcelr well i generate a pdf
07:53 cait i have a json/reports based one to generate a html print out page
07:53 cait but email i couldn't do with tricks like that
07:54 marcelr i attach it to an email
07:54 marcelr but that workflow is getting outdated too
07:55 marcelr you must order on the website of the vendor
07:56 cait for the big vendors yes
07:56 cait some of the libraries work with small ones - the special libraries especially
07:56 cait self published etc
07:56 cait so i think both workflows are good to have
07:56 marcelr yeah
07:56 cait setting up edifact is only feasible for the bigger ones - we haven't done that yet
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08:21 eythian @wunder ams
08:21 huginn` eythian: Error: No such location could be found.
08:21 eythian also, hi
08:22 mrkastan :D hi
08:24 cait @wunder Konstanz
08:24 huginn` cait: Error: No such location could be found.
08:24 cait hmpf
08:24 cait @wunder ZRH
08:24 huginn` cait: Error: No such location could be found.
08:26 eythian[…]uncing-skala.html <-- cait
08:28 cait oi
08:29 eythian > in German, writing implementationsdefiniertüber​schreibenfaulunveränderliche is completely natural, so we intend to fully embrace it.
08:30 cait that doesn't really make sense
08:30 cait you can't compose adjectives and verbs like nouns
08:31 eythian not with that attitude
08:38 cait :P
08:38 cait even moon language has rules, you know?
08:48 magnuse the date?
08:48 wahanui i heard the date was circled ;)
08:48 cait eythian: u. says he will switch to skala once we have rewitten koha in it
08:49 eythian cait: heh, I'm sure he can get on that :)
08:49 eythian magnuse: the date was circled.
08:49 magnuse that would explain it
08:50 * magnuse shudders when he sees code written in norwegian
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09:00 boethius Hi there, i  am totally new to koha and would like to know, if there is a possibility to migrate data from my currently used Openbiblio-system into Koha?
09:00 boethius Any help is highliy appreciated :)
09:01 cait hi boethius
09:01 boethius hi cait :)
09:01 cait i don't know openbiblio, but in order to migrate your bilbiographic records and items to Koha you will hava to generate marc records
09:01 cait there are tools like marcedit and others that can help with that
09:01 cait where are you located?
09:02 boethius Germany
09:03 boethius The problem is, that i can load marc files into opnebbiblio, but there seems to be no way to get them out :(
09:03 cait it probably only take sthe fields that it needs from the records and doesn't store them
09:03 cait < germany too
09:06 boethius dann in Deutsch :)  Ich muss also eine Software außerhalb von Koha finden, die mich MARC aus OpenBiblio ziehen lässt, damit ich Daten für den Import in Koha habe? Sehe ich das richtig?
09:07 boethius Oder gibt es in Koha eine Funktion, mit der man eine SQL-Datembank in Marc-erxportieren kann?
09:08 boethius Mit MarcEdit hab ich schon gearbeitet :)
09:10 cait ich würde erst mal schauen, welche Datenformate du exportieren kannst
09:11 cait und dann von da schauen, wie man das, wenn erforderlich, nach MARC21 konvertieren kann
09:16 boethius also Openbiblio lässt gar keine Exporte zu. ich müsste dann schauen, ob und wie ich die mySQL-Datenbank direkt auf dem Server in irgendeinem brauchbaren Format herunterladen kann. Und dann hoffen, dass ich das in MARC 21 konvertieren kann
09:17 boethius Hint: ich bin kein Computer-Experte, deswegen klingt manche Formulierung vielleicht etwas schwammig :)
09:23 cait hm tabellen als CSV vielleicht - eventuell auch mal mit Koha und openbiblio googeln oder auf der Mailingliste nachfragen
09:28 boethius Ich habe eben mal die Datenbank als CSV exportiert :) Leider konnte ich MarcEdit hier an meinem Instituts-PC nicht installieren - mir fehlen die Admin-Rechte :/
09:29 boethius Aber dann mache ich da dann weiter, wenn der Admin nett zu mir war :) In jedem Fall vielen Dank für deine Hilfe!
09:29 magnuse cait++
09:29 cait magnuse: maybe I was mean? ;)
09:29 cait boethius: viel Erfolg
09:30 * magnuse doubts it
09:30 eythian I dunno, anything's possible!
09:31 boethius Danke, werd ich brauchen :))
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09:59 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18368 - DBversion not set by <[…]48743df3e4f575148>
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10:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17866: [QA Follow-up] Change wording of db revision <[…]4a30d5bd5e2813c52>
10:43 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17309 - Renewing and HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref <[…]b50b249cafe12ddb6> / Bug 18093: Koha::Objects->get_column should not return a DBIC object <[…]b1b793c7ec49168df> / Bug 18093: Add Koha::Objects->get_column <
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10:53 marcelr khall++
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11:31 yyy how to renew ejournal using serials and acquisitions module
11:32 yyy for serials i just want to add subscription but no issue details as it is a ejournal
11:32 yyy but if i dont add that koha will add item details in acquisitions
11:33 yyy i wish to renew one ejournal through acquisitions so that budget is managed as well as add subscription details but no issues details
11:33 yyy is it possible to do that
11:34 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #147: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/147/
11:34 jenkins kyle: Bug 18368 - DBversion not set by
11:34 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18368 critical, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , DBversion not set by
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11:46 oleonard Hi all
11:49 francharb good morning #koha, good morning oleonard
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11:55 yyy how to renew ejournal using serials and acquisitions module
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11:58 kellym good morning
11:58 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one
11:59 eythian not wrong, wahanui. Not wrong.
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12:00 marcelr back
12:01 marcelr hi Joubu
12:01 marcelr gone already
12:10 cait marcelr: still early for him i think
12:11 cait hi oleonard :)
12:11 marcelr his nick got active a while
12:11 eythian *oleopard
12:11 marcelr hey oleopard
12:11 wahanui oh! leopard!
12:11 cait hi francharb, kellym
12:12 Joubu hi
12:12 marcelr hi Joubu
12:13 marcelr still thinking about your lock statement
12:13 marcelr (in the background)
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12:18 Joubu marcelr: any other suggestions?
12:18 wahanui any other suggestions are welcome
12:18 yyy can someone help
12:18 marcelr Joubu: i let you know if i would find one
12:18 marcelr Joubu: i dont like only to test prove btw
12:18 yyy i wish to renew one electronic journal by adding details about journal in serials and ordering through acquisitions
12:19 yyy is it possible to do that
12:19 marcelr Joubu: i often run without prove
12:19 yyy if i add in serials it asks me issue details
12:19 marcelr just running the perl code
12:23 marcelr Joubu: and if we assigned some special env variable to locking or not locking ?
12:23 marcelr we could add a locking env var in the apache file
12:24 marcelr it should not be there when you test
12:24 marcelr still a workaround but maybe a bit better?
12:27 Joubu marcelr: yes that was my first idea, the problem is that we will need to set the ENV var in all our tests
12:27 Joubu ha sorry misread
12:27 marcelr not if you do the other way around and put it in apache
12:27 Joubu you are thinking about the reverse
12:27 marcelr yes
12:28 Joubu that might work
12:29 marcelr the cron file would perhaps need it too
12:29 marcelr not sure
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12:52 tcohen morning!
12:52 Infra_3600 morning
12:52 Infra_3600 ^-)
12:52 Infra_3600 hello all ! how much cpu,ram,hdd of VM one must to allocate for koha installation? existing db weight is 70G, but 50% of it is indexes. is dual core cpu / 4g ram / 160 g hdd a good choice for the first time, for evaluation?
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12:54 tcohen Infra_3600: shold be fine
12:54 Infra_3600 thanks
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13:03 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:03 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
13:03 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
13:04 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
13:04 tcohen ha!
13:04 tcohen @wunder cordoba argentina
13:04 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
13:04 tcohen @wunder boo
13:04 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found.
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13:10 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #148: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/148/
13:10 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17866: [QA Follow-up] Change wording of db revision
13:10 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18093: Add Koha::Objects->get_column
13:10 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18093: Koha::Objects->get_column should not return a DBIC object
13:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17866 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Change sender for claim and order notices
13:10 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17309 - Renewing and HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref
13:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18093 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add the Koha::Objects->get_column method
13:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, techservspec, Pushed to Master , Renewing and HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref
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13:13 tcohen hi #koha, please git pull on kohadevbox and start from scratch, to help debug any issues introduced by the refactoring :-D
13:13 marcelr hi tcohen
13:13 tcohen hi marcelr
13:13 marcelr when will this refactoring ever stop :)
13:13 tcohen its done
13:14 tcohen the tasks are exactly the same
13:14 tcohen it is just that I put specific stuff on separate files
13:14 marcelr np tcohen
13:14 tcohen and there where some meaningful changes in the order they were ran
13:14 cait Joubu++
13:15 tcohen it is now better to read and tweak  for everyone
13:15 marcelr cool
13:15 cait answering all my questions on bugs
13:15 marcelr you had a busy weekend cait
13:15 marcelr cait++
13:15 tcohen cait++
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13:29 oha the refactoring will have to continue to satisfy the needs of an increasing refactoring -- B. Franklin (a bit too late for april fools, i know)
13:30 tcohen hehe
13:36 tcohen oha, can you try the new kohadevbox :-D?
13:36 oha i might soon
13:36 tcohen thanks :-D
13:37 oha i will setup a test box for some ILL so...
13:37 oha but i'm not sure what and how i will do it yet
13:39 tcohen oha: what are you trying to do?
13:39 tcohen you mean a specific ILL software?
13:40 oha i have very little clue right now, but i'm checking magnuse work and still figuring out what to do
13:42 magnuse tcohen: adopting the work from ptfse to norwegian purposes :-)
13:42 magnuse *adapting, i guess
13:42 tcohen cool, but that'd be on the Koha's codebase, right?
13:43 tcohen does it require a separate server/tool?
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13:45 oha tcohen: i would like to have a generic module in community koha, and local patches locally, for sure
13:46 tcohen ok, but you don't need anything else, than just a kohadevbox up and running for that
13:47 oha there is an extra server, AFAIK
14:02 andreashm Anyone here using MariaDB in production?
14:13 paul_p Joubu = dans les parages ?
14:13 paul_p hi tcohen. Are you planning to go to KohaCon17 ? (I do !)
14:13 Joubu paul_p: yep
14:14 paul_p Joubu = same question = are you planning to go to KohaCon ?
14:15 Joubu nope I do not think so
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15:06 oleonard tcohen++ # kohadevbox is great
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16:24 reiveune bye
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16:32 barton @later tell tcohen latest kohadevbox installs koha correctly when SYNC_REPO is unset, but has trouble with CPAN dependencies for Koha QA tools:
16:32 huginn` barton: The operation succeeded.
16:32 barton tcohen++
16:33 barton ^^ kohadevbox works better in general.
16:51 CrispyBran barton, are you getting the failure with Test-Output-1.031.tar.gz?
16:54 barton CrispyBran: what's Test-Output-1.031.tar.gz?
16:55 CrispyBran Something I keep getting a failure on in the Koha QA tools.  I don't know what it is, but it doesn't exist on the site, from what I can see, and my vagrant up keeps dying at that point.  I haven't been able to get a working kohadevbox all weekend.
16:56 barton I think this is failing before that point -- it looks like it can't hit the cpan mirror
16:56 CrispyBran barton: What is the purpse of the SYNC_REPO, and how does one unset it?
16:59 barton CrispyBran: if you have a koha git repo located outside of kohadevbox and set $SYNC_REPO to its path, kohadevbox will use that repo instead of cloning its own... that can save you an hour or so during the initial provisioning.
17:00 barton CrispyBran: see[…]ronment-variables
17:02 barton CrispyBran: if the vagrant provision fails on the 'Koha QA tools', you should still have a working koha instance.
17:03 CrispyBran I do, but I can't create any branches.  Something got mucked up with the git permissions
17:06 barton CrispyBran: like this: error: cannot open .git/FETCH_HEAD: Permission denied
17:07 barton looks like kohaclone is owned by root...
17:10 CrispyBran ^^ fatal: Undable to create '/home/vagrant/kohaclone/.git/index.lock': Permission denied
17:11 CrispyBran barton: is there a way to manually fix the owner?
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17:13 barton CrispyBran: sudo chown -r 'vagrant:vagrant' /home/vagrant/kohaclone/
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17:16 CrispyBran barton: invalid option -r.  Should it be -R?
17:16 barton CrispyBran: yep.
17:17 CrispyBran barton: you are my new best IRC friend.  Sorry kidclamp.
17:19 barton ... that should fix it for the current install, the *right* way to do it is to fix roles/kohadevbox/tasks/koha-src.yml so that it uses become_user: vagrant during the clone, I think.
17:20 kidclamp barton++
17:22 Joubu barton: tried --provision?
17:22 Joubu I think it's a known issue
17:24 barton Joubu: yes, I've done --provision. :-)
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17:25 yyy is it possible to add ejournal in koha with serials and acquisitions module without adding any issue details
17:25 yyy if serials module is used to add subscription of ejournal it asks for issue details and subscription period
17:26 yyy can this be escaped and ejournal is renewed from koha
17:30 yyy i am using latest version of koha 16.11.04
17:48 eythian yyy: if you get no answer here, it might be worth trying the mailing lists.
17:50 yyy ok
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18:53 barton CrispyBran: I think that the issue with Test-Output-1.031.tar.gz has to do with the choice of mirror. I've changed cpan_mirror in vars/user.yml from to I think that may do the trick.
18:53 CrispyBran thanks
18:57 barton CrispyBran: that seems to have worked.
18:58 CrispyBran barton: thanks.  You saved my sanity today.
19:03 barton CrispyBran: I've been reading up on Ansible... check out ... that gives a minimal vagrant / ansible deployment. After I'd fiddled with that, it made kohadevbox a lot more understandable.
19:04 CrispyBran thanks
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