Time Nick Message 06:34 marcelr hi #koha 06:41 reiveune hello 06:41 wahanui hi, reiveune 06:52 marcelr @later tell khall please push the last followup patch of bug 17866 to fix updatedatabase 06:52 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded. 06:54 marcelr @later tell khall please push the last followup patch of bug 17866 to fix updatedatabase 06:54 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded. 06:54 marcelr oops 06:54 marcelr wrong window 06:57 fridolin hie tere 06:58 mrkastan hi 06:58 wahanui que tal, mrkastan 06:58 marcelr hi fridolin 06:59 fridolin marcelr: LibraryClaire magnuse Bonjour à vous 06:59 LibraryClaire bonjour 07:00 alex_a bonjour 07:11 cait morning #koha 07:12 marcelr @later tell khall please push bug 18368 instead thx 07:12 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded. 07:12 marcelr hi cait 07:12 mrkastan hi 07:16 mrkastan actually, I might have a question - do you guys have an experience with running koha in library with huge biblio db? like huge with ~6.5 million records? 07:20 marcelr mrkastan: you should google for koha public libraries in Turkey with millions of records 07:23 mrkastan I see :) thanks 07:26 * magnuse waves 07:26 marcelr @later tell khall hopefully the last one, but added yet another tiny followup to 17866 07:26 huginn` marcelr: The operation succeeded. 07:26 marcelr hi magnuse 07:26 wahanui kamelåså 07:26 magnuse :-) 07:29 gaetan_B hello 07:29 wahanui hello, gaetan_B 07:29 mrkastan hi 07:29 wahanui niihau, mrkastan 07:34 oha o/ 07:40 marcelr jajm around 07:40 jajm marcelr, hi 07:41 marcelr hi jajm: is the patch on bug 17309 for 3.22 only ? 07:41 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Renewing and HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref 07:41 marcelr if so, we could change it to Pushed to stable ? 07:42 jajm marcelr, i don't think it's only for 3.22, it has been tested on a sandbox 07:43 marcelr ok i will apply it on master to see 07:43 cait marcelr: did you see my comment? I think you also changed the sender for 2 other notices 07:44 marcelr cait: look at the report please 07:45 cait ah cool, just left the office for a moment :) 07:45 marcelr (so the answer is yes) 07:45 cait missed the new mails 07:45 marcelr i added a followup and changed the title 07:45 cait i changed it again heh 07:45 cait acqorder is not a claim 07:45 marcelr no i left that one out in the patch see commit message 07:45 cait but that will be more clear, thx 07:46 cait ah, i doubt the not used :) 07:46 cait at least judging by the libraries asking for it 07:46 marcelr not widely used 07:46 cait yep, but it's fine 07:46 marcelr you wrote it, so you will know 07:47 cait it's a thing that came up in almost every demo of acq and every training 07:47 cait why can we email claims but not orders? that makes no sense 07:47 cait i am so glad that it's there, not pretty, but a a start 07:47 marcelr yeah i have some custom patch mailing them for years 07:47 marcelr so when i upgrade i have to choose.. 07:48 cait you can compare, yours might be better :) 07:48 cait at least if it's automatic 07:48 marcelr well i generate a pdf 07:53 cait i have a json/reports based one to generate a html print out page 07:53 cait but email i couldn't do with tricks like that 07:54 marcelr i attach it to an email 07:54 marcelr but that workflow is getting outdated too 07:55 marcelr you must order on the website of the vendor 07:56 cait for the big vendors yes 07:56 cait some of the libraries work with small ones - the special libraries especially 07:56 cait self published etc 07:56 cait so i think both workflows are good to have 07:56 marcelr yeah 07:56 cait setting up edifact is only feasible for the bigger ones - we haven't done that yet 08:21 eythian @wunder ams 08:21 huginn` eythian: Error: No such location could be found. 08:21 eythian also, hi 08:22 mrkastan :D hi 08:24 cait @wunder Konstanz 08:24 huginn` cait: Error: No such location could be found. 08:24 cait hmpf 08:24 cait @wunder ZRH 08:24 huginn` cait: Error: No such location could be found. 08:26 eythian http://www.scala-lang.org/blog/2017/04/01/announcing-skala.html <-- cait 08:28 cait oi 08:29 eythian > in German, writing implementationsdefiniertüberschreibenfaulunveränderliche is completely natural, so we intend to fully embrace it. 08:30 cait that doesn't really make sense 08:30 cait you can't compose adjectives and verbs like nouns 08:31 eythian not with that attitude 08:38 cait :P 08:38 cait even moon language has rules, you know? 08:48 magnuse the date? 08:48 wahanui i heard the date was circled ;) 08:48 cait eythian: u. says he will switch to skala once we have rewitten koha in it 08:49 eythian cait: heh, I'm sure he can get on that :) 08:49 eythian magnuse: the date was circled. 08:49 magnuse that would explain it 08:50 * magnuse shudders when he sees code written in norwegian 09:00 boethius Hi there, i am totally new to koha and would like to know, if there is a possibility to migrate data from my currently used Openbiblio-system into Koha? 09:00 boethius Any help is highliy appreciated :) 09:01 cait hi boethius 09:01 boethius hi cait :) 09:01 cait i don't know openbiblio, but in order to migrate your bilbiographic records and items to Koha you will hava to generate marc records 09:01 cait there are tools like marcedit and others that can help with that 09:01 cait where are you located? 09:02 boethius Germany 09:03 boethius The problem is, that i can load marc files into opnebbiblio, but there seems to be no way to get them out :( 09:03 cait it probably only take sthe fields that it needs from the records and doesn't store them 09:03 cait < germany too 09:06 boethius dann in Deutsch :) Ich muss also eine Software außerhalb von Koha finden, die mich MARC aus OpenBiblio ziehen lässt, damit ich Daten für den Import in Koha habe? Sehe ich das richtig? 09:07 boethius Oder gibt es in Koha eine Funktion, mit der man eine SQL-Datembank in Marc-erxportieren kann? 09:08 boethius Mit MarcEdit hab ich schon gearbeitet :) 09:10 cait ich würde erst mal schauen, welche Datenformate du exportieren kannst 09:11 cait und dann von da schauen, wie man das, wenn erforderlich, nach MARC21 konvertieren kann 09:16 boethius also Openbiblio lässt gar keine Exporte zu. ich müsste dann schauen, ob und wie ich die mySQL-Datenbank direkt auf dem Server in irgendeinem brauchbaren Format herunterladen kann. Und dann hoffen, dass ich das in MARC 21 konvertieren kann 09:17 boethius Hint: ich bin kein Computer-Experte, deswegen klingt manche Formulierung vielleicht etwas schwammig :) 09:23 cait hm tabellen als CSV vielleicht - eventuell auch mal mit Koha und openbiblio googeln oder auf der Mailingliste nachfragen 09:28 boethius Ich habe eben mal die Datenbank als CSV exportiert :) Leider konnte ich MarcEdit hier an meinem Instituts-PC nicht installieren - mir fehlen die Admin-Rechte :/ 09:29 boethius Aber dann mache ich da dann weiter, wenn der Admin nett zu mir war :) In jedem Fall vielen Dank für deine Hilfe! 09:29 magnuse cait++ 09:29 cait magnuse: maybe I was mean? ;) 09:29 cait boethius: viel Erfolg 09:30 * magnuse doubts it 09:30 eythian I dunno, anything's possible! 09:31 boethius Danke, werd ich brauchen :)) 09:59 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18368 - DBversion 16.12.00.022 not set by updatedatabase.pl <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=e410967acfc6538abcef74948743df3e4f575148> 10:32 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17866: [QA Follow-up] Change wording of db revision <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=a7f2c450de1142a16df67d04a30d5bd5e2813c52> 10:43 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17309 - Renewing and HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=7d35bdf58a0bcebab20df47b50b249cafe12ddb6> / Bug 18093: Koha::Objects->get_column should not return a DBIC object <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=2d326177ae9faa6007ea835b1b793c7ec49168df> / Bug 18093: Add Koha::Objects->get_column <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha 10:53 marcelr khall++ 11:31 yyy how to renew ejournal using serials and acquisitions module 11:32 yyy for serials i just want to add subscription but no issue details as it is a ejournal 11:32 yyy but if i dont add that koha will add item details in acquisitions 11:33 yyy i wish to renew one ejournal through acquisitions so that budget is managed as well as add subscription details but no issues details 11:33 yyy is it possible to do that 11:34 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #147: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/147/ 11:34 jenkins kyle: Bug 18368 - DBversion 16.12.00.022 not set by updatedatabase.pl 11:34 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18368 critical, P5 - low, ---, veron, Pushed to Master , DBversion 16.12.00.022 not set by updatedatabase.pl 11:46 oleonard Hi all 11:49 francharb good morning #koha, good morning oleonard 11:55 yyy how to renew ejournal using serials and acquisitions module 11:58 kellym good morning 11:58 wahanui the only good morning is a dead one 11:59 eythian not wrong, wahanui. Not wrong. 12:00 marcelr back 12:01 marcelr hi Joubu 12:01 marcelr gone already 12:10 cait marcelr: still early for him i think 12:11 cait hi oleonard :) 12:11 marcelr his nick got active a while 12:11 eythian *oleopard 12:11 marcelr hey oleopard 12:11 wahanui oh! leopard! 12:11 cait hi francharb, kellym 12:12 Joubu hi 12:12 marcelr hi Joubu 12:13 marcelr still thinking about your lock statement 12:13 marcelr (in the background) 12:18 Joubu marcelr: any other suggestions? 12:18 wahanui any other suggestions are welcome 12:18 yyy can someone help 12:18 marcelr Joubu: i let you know if i would find one 12:18 marcelr Joubu: i dont like only to test prove btw 12:18 yyy i wish to renew one electronic journal by adding details about journal in serials and ordering through acquisitions 12:19 yyy is it possible to do that 12:19 marcelr Joubu: i often run without prove 12:19 yyy if i add in serials it asks me issue details 12:19 marcelr just running the perl code 12:23 marcelr Joubu: and if we assigned some special env variable to locking or not locking ? 12:23 marcelr we could add a locking env var in the apache file 12:24 marcelr it should not be there when you test 12:24 marcelr still a workaround but maybe a bit better? 12:27 Joubu marcelr: yes that was my first idea, the problem is that we will need to set the ENV var in all our tests 12:27 Joubu ha sorry misread 12:27 marcelr not if you do the other way around and put it in apache 12:27 Joubu you are thinking about the reverse 12:27 marcelr yes 12:28 Joubu that might work 12:29 marcelr the cron file would perhaps need it too 12:29 marcelr not sure 12:52 tcohen morning! 12:52 Infra_3600 morning 12:52 Infra_3600 ^-) 12:52 Infra_3600 hello all ! how much cpu,ram,hdd of VM one must to allocate for koha installation? existing db weight is 70G, but 50% of it is indexes. is dual core cpu / 4g ram / 160 g hdd a good choice for the first time, for evaluation? 12:54 * andreashm waves 12:54 tcohen Infra_3600: shold be fine 12:54 Infra_3600 thanks 13:03 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:03 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 13:03 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 13:04 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 13:04 tcohen ha! 13:04 tcohen @wunder cordoba argentina 13:04 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 13:04 tcohen @wunder boo 13:04 huginn` tcohen: Error: No such location could be found. 13:10 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #148: STILL UNSTABLE in 1 hr 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_Master_D8/148/ 13:10 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17866: [QA Follow-up] Change wording of db revision 13:10 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18093: Add Koha::Objects->get_column 13:10 jenkins * kyle: Bug 18093: Koha::Objects->get_column should not return a DBIC object 13:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17866 normal, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , Change sender for claim and order notices 13:10 jenkins * kyle: Bug 17309 - Renewing and HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref 13:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=18093 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add the Koha::Objects->get_column method 13:10 huginn` 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17309 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, techservspec, Pushed to Master , Renewing and HomeOrHoldingBranch syspref 13:13 tcohen hi #koha, please git pull on kohadevbox and start from scratch, to help debug any issues introduced by the refactoring :-D 13:13 marcelr hi tcohen 13:13 tcohen hi marcelr 13:13 marcelr when will this refactoring ever stop :) 13:13 tcohen its done 13:14 tcohen the tasks are exactly the same 13:14 tcohen it is just that I put specific stuff on separate files 13:14 marcelr np tcohen 13:14 tcohen and there where some meaningful changes in the order they were ran 13:14 cait Joubu++ 13:15 tcohen it is now better to read and tweak for everyone 13:15 marcelr cool 13:15 cait answering all my questions on bugs 13:15 marcelr you had a busy weekend cait 13:15 marcelr cait++ 13:15 tcohen cait++ 13:29 oha the refactoring will have to continue to satisfy the needs of an increasing refactoring -- B. Franklin (a bit too late for april fools, i know) 13:30 tcohen hehe 13:36 tcohen oha, can you try the new kohadevbox :-D? 13:36 oha i might soon 13:36 tcohen thanks :-D 13:37 oha i will setup a test box for some ILL so... 13:37 oha but i'm not sure what and how i will do it yet 13:39 tcohen oha: what are you trying to do? 13:39 tcohen you mean a specific ILL software? 13:40 oha i have very little clue right now, but i'm checking magnuse work and still figuring out what to do 13:42 magnuse tcohen: adopting the work from ptfse to norwegian purposes :-) 13:42 magnuse *adapting, i guess 13:42 tcohen cool, but that'd be on the Koha's codebase, right? 13:43 tcohen does it require a separate server/tool? 13:45 oha tcohen: i would like to have a generic module in community koha, and local patches locally, for sure 13:46 tcohen ok, but you don't need anything else, than just a kohadevbox up and running for that 13:47 oha there is an extra server, AFAIK 14:02 andreashm Anyone here using MariaDB in production? 14:13 paul_p Joubu = dans les parages ? 14:13 paul_p hi tcohen. Are you planning to go to KohaCon17 ? (I do !) 14:13 Joubu paul_p: yep 14:14 paul_p Joubu = same question = are you planning to go to KohaCon ? 14:15 Joubu nope I do not think so 15:06 oleonard tcohen++ # kohadevbox is great 16:24 reiveune bye 16:32 barton @later tell tcohen latest kohadevbox installs koha correctly when SYNC_REPO is unset, but has trouble with CPAN dependencies for Koha QA tools: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24307491/ 16:32 huginn` barton: The operation succeeded. 16:32 barton tcohen++ 16:33 barton ^^ kohadevbox works better in general. 16:51 CrispyBran barton, are you getting the failure with Test-Output-1.031.tar.gz? 16:54 barton CrispyBran: what's Test-Output-1.031.tar.gz? 16:55 CrispyBran Something I keep getting a failure on in the Koha QA tools. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't exist on the site, from what I can see, and my vagrant up keeps dying at that point. I haven't been able to get a working kohadevbox all weekend. 16:56 barton I think this is failing before that point -- it looks like it can't hit the cpan mirror http://mirror.cc.columbia 16:56 CrispyBran barton: What is the purpse of the SYNC_REPO, and how does one unset it? 16:59 barton CrispyBran: if you have a koha git repo located outside of kohadevbox and set $SYNC_REPO to its path, kohadevbox will use that repo instead of cloning its own... that can save you an hour or so during the initial provisioning. 17:00 barton CrispyBran: see https://github.com/digibib/kohadevbox#environment-variables 17:02 barton CrispyBran: if the vagrant provision fails on the 'Koha QA tools', you should still have a working koha instance. 17:03 CrispyBran I do, but I can't create any branches. Something got mucked up with the git permissions 17:06 barton CrispyBran: like this: error: cannot open .git/FETCH_HEAD: Permission denied 17:07 barton looks like kohaclone is owned by root... 17:10 CrispyBran ^^ fatal: Undable to create '/home/vagrant/kohaclone/.git/index.lock': Permission denied 17:11 CrispyBran barton: is there a way to manually fix the owner? 17:13 barton CrispyBran: sudo chown -r 'vagrant:vagrant' /home/vagrant/kohaclone/ 17:16 CrispyBran barton: invalid option -r. Should it be -R? 17:16 barton CrispyBran: yep. 17:17 CrispyBran barton: you are my new best IRC friend. Sorry kidclamp. 17:19 barton ... that should fix it for the current install, the *right* way to do it is to fix roles/kohadevbox/tasks/koha-src.yml so that it uses become_user: vagrant during the clone, I think. 17:20 kidclamp barton++ 17:22 Joubu barton: tried --provision? 17:22 Joubu I think it's a known issue 17:24 barton Joubu: yes, I've done --provision. :-) 17:25 yyy is it possible to add ejournal in koha with serials and acquisitions module without adding any issue details 17:25 yyy if serials module is used to add subscription of ejournal it asks for issue details and subscription period 17:26 yyy can this be escaped and ejournal is renewed from koha 17:30 yyy i am using latest version of koha 16.11.04 17:48 eythian yyy: if you get no answer here, it might be worth trying the mailing lists. 17:50 yyy ok 18:53 barton CrispyBran: I think that the issue with Test-Output-1.031.tar.gz has to do with the choice of mirror. I've changed cpan_mirror in vars/user.yml from http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/pub/software/cpan to http://cpan.metacpan.org/... I think that may do the trick. 18:53 CrispyBran thanks 18:57 barton CrispyBran: that seems to have worked. 18:58 CrispyBran barton: thanks. You saved my sanity today. 19:03 barton CrispyBran: I've been reading up on Ansible... check out https://www.ansiblefordevops.com/ ... that gives a minimal vagrant / ansible deployment. After I'd fiddled with that, it made kohadevbox a lot more understandable. 19:04 CrispyBran thanks