IRC log for #koha, 2016-02-25

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02:49 wizzyrea omg I have to turn off youtube now. I might die.
02:49 rangi heh
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05:48 rania Hello
05:48 wahanui salut, rania
05:48 rania j"en ai un problem serious avec cataloguing KOHA
05:49 rania quand je fais cataloguing et specialement additem un message d"erreur apparaisse error 500 apres enrigistrer
05:49 rania je dois fermer le browser et log-in encore une fois
05:50 rania en fait ce message apparisse si je met un non latin text dans le champ NOTES
05:50 rania pleaseeeee helpppp
05:50 rania I am oblige to use NOTES
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06:01 rania allo any help
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06:02 rania_ anyone can help with error 500 in koha
06:02 rania_ ??
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07:40 * magnuse waves
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07:44 marcelr hi #koha
07:45 magnuse hiya marcelr
07:46 marcelr hi magnuse
07:46 magnuse dcook++
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07:55 reiveune hello
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08:06 alex_a bonjour
08:06 wahanui hi, alex_a
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08:07 gaetan_B hello
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08:24 magnuse @wunder tso
08:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Mechanicstown, Ohio, Ohio, Ohio is 1.7°C (3:10 AM EST on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -1.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Rising).
08:24 magnuse @wunder tos
08:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Tromso / Langnes, Norway is -4.0°C (9:00 AM CET on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Light Freezing Rain. Humidity: 77%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Pressure: 29.47 in 998 hPa (Rising).
08:24 magnuse @wunder boo
08:24 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -4.0°C (8:50 AM CET on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 29.44 in 997 hPa (Rising).
08:30 Francesca @wunder wlg
08:30 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0°C (9:00 PM NZDT on February 25, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
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08:44 magnuse Francesca: ooh, nice and summery still?
08:44 Francesca yup
08:44 magnuse hiya cait and sophie_m
08:45 Francesca best summer i've ever had in welly
08:45 sophie_m hello magnuse and #koha
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09:13 drojf morning #koha
09:15 liw drojf, hi
09:17 liw drojf, I am afraid I can't commit to giving a Debian packaging tutorial for the time being (my work life being in a bit of turmoil), so I won't be proposing one for Kohacon; I might do one for the gathering in that German city I forget (Hamburg? Berlin? Friedrichshafen?), if I can do that in April
09:24 drojf morning liw. it's in berlin ;) please let me know when work life things are sorted out and we'll see if berlin works for you
09:24 magnuse liw: but berlin is in may, not april, i think
09:25 drojf true. i thought it was about a decision in april, the hackfest is right before kohacon
09:25 magnuse ah, i might have misread liw
09:25 liw yeah, decision in April (at the earliest)
09:26 liw I am easily misred
09:26 magnuse gotcha
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09:39 drojf "We reached a milestone! 100 people have registered already!" (24 feb)
09:39 drojf that's gonne be a big kohacon
09:39 drojf a
09:42 magnuse yay
10:00 cait yeah pretty cool :)
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10:09 LibraryClaire morning #koha
10:28 cait morning LibraryClaire
10:30 LibraryClaire hi cait
10:37 clrh hi #koha
10:38 clrh I am wondering at what time Kyle begin to work
10:39 drojf hi cait and all claires ;)
10:44 LibraryClaire hi drojf
10:45 clrh (answer to my question: in 3 hours I think)
11:09 marcelr clrh: he might be earlier than that
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11:13 clrh ok marcelr
11:13 clrh hi khall
11:13 khall hi!
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11:53 * cait waves
11:53 cait hopefully not a meeting i missed?
12:11 cait oh kyle work... got it
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13:13 * druthb giggles.
13:14 druthb A teammate used a new module in a test that I'd not seen before:  Acme::Damn.
13:19 magnuse why, bless me!
13:22 druthb And it's a beautiful thing.  If you don't like the damn() routine, you can pass in any alias you want when you use it:  use Acme::Damn qw(curse);   #or pass_judgement or send_to_hell or unbless or condemn...
13:22 magnuse lulz
13:23 druthb Now, I'm gonna have to quiz my teammate on why he'd *want* to do this.
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13:34 tcohen morning
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13:48 jcamins I'm not sure why you would want to unbless a Perl object, but I greatly enjoy the fact that this module exists.
13:49 druthb yeah, me too.  When my teammate called it, he set it up as "curse".  One other instance of it exists in our codebase, and they used "condemn"
13:49 jcamins Nor do I see how it works.
13:50 jcamins I see it doing symbol table munging, but not actually cursing the object.
13:56 jcamins Oh, it's defined in an xs file.
13:56 jcamins And I still don't get it.
13:57 magnuse here be monsters?
13:57 druthb Like much of Perl, yes.
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14:00 magnuse it's why i love perl - lots of humour :-)
14:02 cait yeah, not taking yourself too seriously is always a good thing :)
14:04 druthb I'm still scratching my head as to *why* he'd use this shenanigans.  You don't need it to access the data in the object--in this case, a hashref.  He's using cmp_deeply on it, but you can do that on a blessed hashref, just fine.
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14:10 magnuse druthb: because it's fun?
14:11 * magnuse wanders off
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14:46 drojf looks like the deadline for kohacon presentations has been changed to 21 march, but it was not announced anywhere?
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14:47 drojf now the website says 7th march
14:48 drojf that's all a little confusing
14:49 drojf ah. no. deadline is march 7, confirmation of acceptance for talks is march 21
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15:09 cait i guess that means: submit more!
15:14 cait drojf: thereis a news entry on the page now too
15:15 drojf yes but nothing on the list
15:15 drojf i'm not going to send another mail now. people send their questions about it directly to me…
15:15 cait let them send it :)
15:16 cait i think it just changed, it's probably in the works
15:16 drojf that is what i am hoping for…
15:16 drojf but i am not sending an email to ask for sending an email either :P
15:16 cait keep calm and remind people about the berlin hackfest instead? :)
15:17 drojf nah, don't want to spam. it's not like we have a million of events going on. i think people are aware of it already
15:21 drojf "This page has been accessed 272 times"
15:21 * druthb didn't know about the berlin hackfest, until *just now*.
15:21 cait drojf: hm?
15:21 cait druthb: there is ahackfest in berlin! :)
15:21 cait berin hackfest?
15:22 cait berlin hackfest is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lin_Hackfest_2016
15:23 druthb :)
15:24 drojf druthb!
15:24 drojf how could you not know?
15:25 drojf you are probably not on koha-devel anymore?
15:25 druthb correct.
15:25 drojf oh no. you miss all the cool insider things! like hackfests :)
15:27 cait @later tell andreashm finally reviewed the holds spec document - and i think at least one of our libraries will love the options
15:27 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
15:28 drojf does it include "magazin" stuff? someone asked me about that, but i forgot who it was
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15:38 cait drojf: we already have magazin stuff
15:38 cait allowonshelfholds = ye
15:38 cait s
15:38 cait :)
15:40 drojf hm true
15:40 drojf druthb: so you're saying you want to come to berlin? :P
15:40 kidclamp hello all
15:42 druthb drojf, if it wasn't *right* after OSCON, I just might, especially if I was also going to KohaCon.  But that'd have me gone for basically a whole month, and I don't have *that* much vacation time.  :P
15:43 drojf damn. you should have way more vacation time!
15:44 * cait agrees
15:49 druthb :)
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16:05 oleonard Hi #koha
16:05 * oleonard grumbles about 3-hour morning meetings
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16:15 pianohacker (extraordinarily delayed) magnuse!
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16:59 gaetan_B bye
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17:08 drojf oh we have sponsor tables now at kohacon? :|
17:09 drojf i liked the "you can put your flyer on that table and that's it" aproach used in edinburgh
17:09 drojf not sure what other kohacons did
17:14 cait it's a bit different
17:15 cait but i think not unusual
17:16 cait java--
17:17 drojf not unusual for what? kohacons? or conferences in general?
17:17 drojf the call for sponsorship for 2013 is gone, the whole website for kohacon 2012 is gone
17:17 drojf hard to track it down, but 2012 was very different
17:18 drojf also the lowest price is now 10x higher. i think it started at 50€
17:20 cait yeah that's true, it's missing an option for smaller amounts
17:21 drojf i doubt scotlsnd got as much as the lowest option altogether
17:21 drojf scotland
17:21 wahanui scotland is pretty wicked too
17:21 cait hm next irc meeting is the week after next i think?
17:22 drojf which one is your birthday? i think its not that :)
17:22 drojf i did not put it in my calendar. mhpf
17:24 cait wiki?
17:24 wahanui wiki is
17:24 cait ;)
17:27 drojf reno was $75 and $500, no tables
17:29 drojf edinburgh was gbp 50 and 500
17:30 drojf it would be awesome to have liblime with a few tables in the foyer
17:35 drojf or exlibris
17:39 oleonard Yes.... Awesome :|
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18:15 drojf i sent them an email asking if they would consider removing the table option. i feel like the ms word paperclip, annoying everyone :P
18:20 drojf i hope they don't delete my registration now…
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18:26 drojf later #koha
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18:37 cait drojf: someone has to be the paper clip
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19:02 oleonard If I was clippy I'd pop in with "It looks like you're adding an onclick attribute to a link. Wouldn't you rather use progressive enhancement instead?"
19:03 pianohacker hehehe
19:03 rangi fwiw kohacon10 was whatever you want, and you got your name in the programme
19:03 rangi more money didnt get you more stuff
19:03 rangi however, it turned out, everyone gave about the same anyway
19:04 rangi and morning
19:04 rangi basically, the way i feel about Kohacon .. is we should get money from pretty much everyone except the libraries and developers
19:04 rangi if at all possible
19:05 rangi (cos they already pay, every day, by using or working on Koha)
19:06 rangi (we had sponsorship from a licorice factory, stationery warehouse, bars etc)
19:06 rangi </rant>
19:09 oleonard Love that licorice/stationery/liquor swag!
19:09 oleonard But I will give away any licorice swag because I hate licorice.
19:10 rangi heh
19:12 barton Hey, I ran into an issue that I *know* that I've seen before, and could have sworn there was a bug open for, but I can't find it for the life of me -- it has to do with predictive search on the circ screen for common patron surnames that contain spaces... e.g. one of our libraries is an academic library that has other libraries as patrons, and therefore has a zillion borrowers with the surname 'New York ...' the predictive search gives more r
19:12 barton ... does that ring a bell with anyone?
19:12 rangi hmm first thing i do is always turn predictive search off, it's slow and beats the crap out of the server .. so nope havent run into it
19:13 oleonard Bug 13822?
19:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13822 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Patron autocomplete search is severly limited
19:13 oleonard Bug 14871?
19:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14871 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Cannot search for patrons using second surname/firstname
19:16 oleonard I can't tell if the silence on Bug 15883 is a vote of confidence or apathy.
19:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15883 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, In Discussion , Upgrade jQuery from v1.7.2 in the staff client
19:17 rangi heh, i think most people are happy to go with whatever you decide, I know I am
19:17 barton I think it's 14871.
19:17 * oleonard becomes drunk with power
19:17 oleonard Drunk/er/ I guess
19:18 rangi :)
19:19 * barton muses that as well as he knows oleonard, he can't remember seeing him drunk.
19:19 oleonard barton: We should correct that :P
19:19 barton yeah. we really should.
19:20 barton ... especially since I'm sure it goes both ways.
19:24 oleonard links to datTables.buttons.min.js and buttons.colVis.min.js, and so does and both are usually included at the same time :(
19:26 rangi darn
19:40 eythian Hi
19:40 wahanui hello, eythian
19:40 eythian wahanui: how are you?
19:40 wahanui i am probably a strange duck
19:40 eythian Sounds good.
19:42 cait oleonard++ :)
19:53 pianohacker oleonard: the best part of the marseille hackfest year before last was the licorice
19:53 pianohacker delicious salmiakki
19:56 drojf rangi: did you have tables/booths at kohacon10?
19:57 rangi nope
19:57 drojf did we have tha tever? i guess you have been to all kohacons?
19:57 drojf *that
19:57 rangi kohacon13 kinda did, but they were actually for another library conference, thats the only one i know of
19:59 oleonard Bye everyone
19:59 rangi i dont mind the idea of booths per se, i just think they wont get anyone going to them
20:00 drojf i don't really see how having 5 tables of koha support providers showning koha would help a koha conference. but i wonder who else may have a table
20:01 drojf i don't go to library conferences often, the fair-like nature of german "librarian day" is weird to me. maybe it's normal to others
20:02 rangi its pretty normal for library conferences
20:02 drojf thats why i like kohacon then ;)
20:02 rangi everyone ive been to that isnt a kohacon, has a big exhibition hall full of vendors
20:02 rangi and i just go round collecting pens, and wearing my "Who owns your data?" tshirt
20:03 rangi most conferences, the vendor hall is how they afford to run it
20:04 rangi personally if some of the proprietary vendors want to pay to have a stand where I will come and ask them loudly when they are releasing their code under a free software license
20:04 rangi no worries :)
20:05 rangi what would be good if we are going to have tables, is to offer some free ones to say, creative commons greece, and FSF-Europe
20:05 drojf anyway i explicitly said it's my personal opinion that it seems uncommon for kohacon, and i'm not writing not on behalf of "the koha community" (turns out by sending a few list emails about kohacon made me look like some kind of kohacon official to others. *giggles*)
20:06 rangi hehe
20:06 drojf there is a "not" too much
20:07 drojf i got en email from turkey asking about confirmation for their presentation proposal too ;)
20:07 drojf *an
20:07 rangi heh
20:07 drojf you can ask them about their code then :P
20:08 rangi they are well within their rights, it's only if they start distributing without the source .. or trying to pretend they are Koha (like some other clowns we know) that it is an issue. However I will be encouraging them to upstream
20:08 rangi for their own good as much as anything else
20:12 rangi oh great
20:12 rangi[…]_bug_fix_headsup/
20:13 gmcharlt eh, I had no plans that day
20:13 gmcharlt <--- liar
20:13 liw rangi, you LCA presentation about community seems to have been remarkably awesome
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20:13 rangi the write up makes it sound much more awesome than it actually was
20:14 ibeardslee he is
20:14 eythian rangi: and this is why I made everything automatic 🙂
20:14 cait i am sure he was awesome
20:14 cait who is with me? :)
20:15 rangi eythian: yup :)
20:15 liw rangi, I am suspecting you of being named Blaise
20:18 * rangi has to go to a creative commons advisory meeting .. bbl
20:19 eythian So, on Sunday I'm going to the Anne Frank huis, currently reading the diary. It annoys me a bit how the edit deliberately foreshadows.
20:23 * liw looks at eythian and radiates a "eythian should give a Debian packaging tutorial at kohacon" wave into the aether
20:23 cait :)
20:24 eythian liw: I'm getting out of practice.
20:24 eythian Though, I probably could.
20:25 eythian I just wrote it all in a wiki page instead.
20:25 liw eythian, I taught you, you should teach the next generation :)
20:25 cait sounds like there is a responsibility there :)
20:26 eythian I taught many people 😉
20:26 liw joking aside, I'd love to do a tutorial, but since I am unsure if I can, I hope someone else can
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