IRC log for #koha, 2016-01-28

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00:17 dcook That awkward moment when you're waiting for a package to install... then you realize that the scrollbar on your terminal window is actually halfway up and the overall install finished at least 5 minutes ago...
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01:01 pianohacker good night
01:01 wahanui I'll be waiting for you to come back, pianohacker.
01:06 dcook Ha!
01:06 dcook I think I solved Zeno's problem
01:06 dcook Because I'm just a masochist like that..
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01:42 dcook Oh my... it looks like Github might be having issues?
01:42 dcook
01:42 ibeardslee yeap, much pink unicorn
01:43 dcook "12:36 AUS Eastern Daylight TimeWe're working to address a widespread issue affecting all services."
01:44 dcook Well, that's no good. I need to look at Indexdata's YAZ git :p
01:46 dcook Ah, they have a record I think..
01:47 * dcook thinks this might be the problem:[…]af8607d7f7054f4be
01:47 dcook ^total guess
02:37 gmcharlt anybody about who would care to do a quick test of the 3.22.2 package?
02:38 dcook Maybe
02:38 dcook I do have a Debian VM already spun up, so shoot, gmcharlt
02:38 gmcharlt OK, add this to your sources.list
02:38 gmcharlt deb stable main
02:38 gmcharlt then update/upgrade away
02:44 dcook upgrade what? koha-common?
02:44 gmcharlt yep
02:44 dcook Hmm, so right not I'm using oldstable and the Indexdata repo
02:45 dcook Should I start over with a community stable then try yours?
02:45 gmcharlt nah, no need
02:46 dcook Cool, I'll give it a whirl
02:47 dcook gmcharlt: Anything particular I'm looking for?
02:48 gmcharlt nothing beyond a clean upgrade and the instance being functional
02:49 dcook Cool. Hope to let you know soon
02:50 gmcharlt thanks
02:55 dcook Hmm still just seems to say "Reading changelogs... Done"
02:55 dcook Started seeing if I could change anything and..
02:55 dcook Fetched 244 MB in 42s (5,726 kB/s)
02:55 dcook Reading changelogs... Done
02:55 dcook bash: :f5w5dddddaa: command not found
02:55 dcook I'm guessing that was just my button mashing there
02:55 * gmcharlt waves to dcook's cat
02:56 dcook Hmm my terminal actually looks a bit broken now..
02:56 dcook hehe
02:56 dcook At the office at the moment, and the cats are at home, but I'm sure they know and are waving back
02:57 dcook Let's try that again..
02:57 dcook That's looking better
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02:59 dcook gmcharlt: I don't know what happened before, as it was downloading a lot of updates, but it seems to have installed just fine
03:00 gmcharlt great
03:02 gmcharlt dcook++
03:08 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the IRC home of Koha | Code of conduct -[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is
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03:39 Amit_Gupta hi all
04:50 dcook Interesting...
04:50 wahanui i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
04:51 dcook One of these days I'll remove XML::Simple from Koha..
04:52 dcook Well, in this case it looks like a problem with XML::SAX::PurePerl...
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06:03 dcook There are not enough hours in the day :(
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06:53 * magnuse waves
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07:25 fredericd Does anyone has news from Bernardo? I can't reach him...
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07:49 marcelr hi #koha
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07:53 reiveune hello
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07:55 alex_a bonjour
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08:38 drojf morning
08:41 cait morning drojf
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08:46 BT I just upgraded koha and the opac side. Everything is working well except the fact opac showing the maintenance page.
08:46 cait BT: did you run the web installer yet?
08:47 cait on the staff side?
08:47 BT Yes
08:47 cait there is also a system preference
08:47 cait opacmaintenance
08:47 BT I will check that, thanks
08:50 cait hm question... i added a new directory for icontype images.... and icons.. and it shows the new tab but not the icons... the permissions are the same as in the other directories
08:54 BT @cait Thanks the opacmaintenance was set to hide. you have made my day.
08:54 huginn` BT: downloading the Perl source
08:54 cait you are welcome
09:02 * Francesca waves
09:04 cait hm it looks like it finds img and gif but not jpg
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09:09 * andreashm waves
09:09 liw morning
09:10 andreashm hi liw
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09:15 cait yep that's it - it only picks up .png and .gif files
09:21 drojf hi cait
09:26 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
09:26 huginn` drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 28, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
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09:32 drojf is it just me or is git really slow?
09:34 drojf had to cancel and start git fetch again, now it worked
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10:10 drojf how would i fake overdue fines for testing? i am trying bug 15675
10:10 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15675 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines
10:11 drojf i do a checkout, change the issue and due date in issues. koha knows its overdue. i run but i see no fines
10:11 drojf with or without the patch
10:15 cait you canalso check out with a past date
10:15 cait that shoudl work as well
10:16 cait so you dont have to change that
10:18 Joubu drojf: what's the value of yourfinesMode pref?
10:18 Joubu same for CalculateFinesOnReturn
10:19 cait hm and circ conditions - fine , maxfine, interval and grace period should be set, also check your calendar if you are closed today
10:20 Joubu jajm: why did you link bug 13024 and bug 14100?
10:20 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13024 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client
10:20 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14100 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add base to make item types, branch names, sysprefs values and authorised values translatable
10:21 drojf finesmode is set to 'calculate (but only for mailing to the admin)', CalculateFinesOnReturn is set to 'do'
10:21 drojf but there is nothing on return either
10:21 cait don't use that
10:21 cait calculate and charge
10:21 jajm Joubu, because there's a line in the patch that depends on another line from 14100's patch
10:22 cait i don't think that setting works even
10:22 Joubu jajm: ha ok thanks
10:22 drojf good to have that as a default then? or maybe i needed that for testing at some point. but i do not remember doing things with fines
10:23 drojf so i use calculate and charge, and do for calculatefinesonreturn?
10:23 drojf the descriptions sound like you use one or the other
10:23 cait yep
10:23 cait you can use both - we don't use the on return one
10:23 cait because we have no hourly loans
10:24 cait but it hink they don't disagree with each other
10:24 drojf ah the on return one is because for hourly loans the daily cronjob is too late?
10:25 drojf if that does what i think it dies then it should be ok to have both
10:26 jajm Joubu, the same line that had to be fixed for 3.20 in bug 15431
10:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15431 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , svc/checkouts dies due to undefined variable (13024 merge problem)
10:26 drojf alright, it works now. thanks Joubu and cait
10:27 cait np
10:28 cait drojf: yep - it recalculates the fine on return
10:28 cait so if you want to chrage by hour, it will check the current time
10:28 drojf yeah and when you pay before you return the book, you get charged twice. lol
10:29 cait you shoudl never do that
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10:30 cait drojf: hm i wonder
10:30 drojf its a regular workflow, i can pay my fines whenever i want, eg in berlin state library. good no know about that setting
10:30 cait we have one line in issues - but there could be multiple F/FU lines
10:30 cait if you renew and then the overdues accrue again
10:30 cait because the due_date in issues can actually change
10:31 cait hm shoudl ask kyle how he wants to handle this
10:31 cait but wonder if apart formt he link we shoudl also store the due date the fine was created for in accountlines
10:35 cait hm left a note on the bug
10:35 drojf now marc signed off in between
10:37 * drojf goes to do other things
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12:50 oleonard Hi #koha
12:52 cait hi oleonard - bye all :)
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12:56 onre i've either found a rather major-ish bug in yaz package supplied with ubuntu 14.04 or alternatively i'm using it wrong
12:57 magnuse kia ora oleonard
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13:02 oleonard Why do we have an unlimited CardnumberLength system preference if the card number column is varchar(16)?
13:09 drojf @later tell eythian i suppose you won't be working an bug 13607 any longer?
13:09 huginn` drojf: The operation succeeded.
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14:39 andreashm hi 3koha
14:40 andreashm #koha
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15:09 oleonard Hi andreashm
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15:13 andreashm hi oleonard
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15:30 nengard morning all
15:41 oleonard Hi nengard
15:41 nengard :)
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15:56 * cait waves
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16:01 bag hi cait
16:05 drojf evening
16:06 reiveune bye
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16:24 * cait waves
16:24 cait house chores...
16:24 cait not really here :)
16:25 nengard heh
16:26 pianohacker cait: bug 15514 :)
16:26 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15514 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , New professional cataloguing editor does not handle repeatable fields correctly
16:27 cait :)
16:27 pianohacker since you're not here, that :) is less a "hiiiiiiiiiii qa lady" and more just "it's fixed yay"
16:28 cait i read it like that ;)
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19:22 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15240: [QA Follow-up] Minor adjustments <[…]7b45d30eee6fca3e8> / Bug 15240: Do not process issues with a date due later than today <[…]9657e2312338763eb>
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20:11 kidclamp @later tell Joubu sandboxes don't seem to be loading bugs, have had a couple reports.  Do you still maintain them?
20:11 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
20:12 cait kidclamp: hm probably not - run by biblibre
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20:13 kidclamp I figured, but still on the wiki
20:13 kidclamp possible he knows someone there too :-)
20:13 kidclamp and hi cait!
20:13 cait hi kidclamp :)
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20:38 kidclamp hmm...anyone around with UNIMARC knowledge?
20:38 kidclamp wondering if 200$e needs punctuation between repeated fields
20:38 kidclamp bug 15697
20:38 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Unnecessary comma between title and subtitle on
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20:40 cait UNIMARC includes no punctuation i think
20:40 cait unlike MARC21
20:40 kidclamp so we should add punctuation?
20:41 cait for unimarc? possibly
20:41 cait idon't know the format super well
20:42 kidclamp thanks cait@
20:42 kidclamp cait!
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21:30 eythian @later tell kathryn happy slightly belated birthday!
21:30 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:31 eythian @later tell drojf I wouldn't expect it, no
21:31 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:41 * Francesca waves at eythian
21:41 eythian hiya
21:42 Francesca your old desk is now my desk
21:43 Francesca hows the other side of the world going for you?
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21:51 eythian heh cool
21:51 kathryn thanks eythian :)
21:51 eythian it's good, just been bowling and playing laser tag this evening.
22:02 pianohacker @seen drojf
22:02 huginn` pianohacker: drojf was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 57 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <drojf> evening
22:04 nengard @later tell drojf youtube integration rocks!!!!
22:04 huginn` nengard: The operation succeeded.
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22:26 cait @later tell khall did you see my commento bug 15675?
22:26 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
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22:36 pianohacker drojf++
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23:09 bag bug 15675
23:09 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15675 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines
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