Time  Nick        Message
00:17 dcook       That awkward moment when you're waiting for a package to install... then you realize that the scrollbar on your terminal window is actually halfway up and the overall install finished at least 5 minutes ago...
01:01 pianohacker good night
01:01 wahanui     I'll be waiting for you to come back, pianohacker.
01:06 dcook       Ha!
01:06 dcook       I think I solved Zeno's problem
01:06 dcook       Because I'm just a masochist like that..
01:42 dcook       Oh my... it looks like Github might be having issues?
01:42 dcook       https://status.github.com/
01:42 ibeardslee  yeap, much pink unicorn
01:43 dcook       "12:36 AUS Eastern Daylight TimeWe're working to address a widespread issue affecting all github.com services."
01:44 dcook       Well, that's no good. I need to look at Indexdata's YAZ git :p
01:46 dcook       Ah, they have a record I think..
01:47 * dcook     thinks this might be the problem: http://git.indexdata.com/?p=yaz-moved-to-github.git;a=commit;h=f24766f1e9fc5404fc0b512af8607d7f7054f4be
01:47 dcook       ^total guess
02:37 gmcharlt    anybody about who would care to do a quick test of the 3.22.2 package?
02:38 dcook       Maybe
02:38 dcook       I do have a Debian VM already spun up, so shoot, gmcharlt
02:38 gmcharlt    OK, add this to your sources.list
02:38 gmcharlt    deb http://zadi.librarypolice.com/~gmc/koha stable main
02:38 gmcharlt    then update/upgrade away
02:44 dcook       upgrade what? koha-common?
02:44 gmcharlt    yep
02:44 dcook       Hmm, so right not I'm using oldstable and the Indexdata repo
02:45 dcook       Should I start over with a community stable then try yours?
02:45 gmcharlt    nah, no need
02:46 dcook       Cool, I'll give it a whirl
02:47 dcook       gmcharlt: Anything particular I'm looking for?
02:48 gmcharlt    nothing beyond a clean upgrade and the instance being functional
02:49 dcook       Cool. Hope to let you know soon
02:50 gmcharlt    thanks
02:55 dcook       Hmm still just seems to say "Reading changelogs... Done"
02:55 dcook       Started seeing if I could change anything and..
02:55 dcook       Fetched 244 MB in 42s (5,726 kB/s)
02:55 dcook       Reading changelogs... Done
02:55 dcook       bash: :f5w5dddddaa: command not found
02:55 dcook       I'm guessing that was just my button mashing there
02:55 * gmcharlt  waves to dcook's cat
02:56 dcook       Hmm my terminal actually looks a bit broken now..
02:56 dcook       hehe
02:56 dcook       At the office at the moment, and the cats are at home, but I'm sure they know and are waving back
02:57 dcook       Let's try that again..
02:57 dcook       That's looking better
02:59 dcook       gmcharlt: I don't know what happened before, as it was downloading a lot of updates, but it seems to have installed just fine
03:00 gmcharlt    great
03:02 gmcharlt    dcook++
03:39 Amit_Gupta  hi all
04:50 dcook       Interesting...
04:50 wahanui     i think interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
04:51 dcook       One of these days I'll remove XML::Simple from Koha..
04:52 dcook       Well, in this case it looks like a problem with XML::SAX::PurePerl...
06:03 dcook       There are not enough hours in the day :(
06:53 * magnuse   waves
07:25 fredericd   Does anyone has news from Bernardo? I can't reach him...
07:49 marcelr     hi #koha
07:53 reiveune    hello
07:55 alex_a      bonjour
08:38 drojf       morning
08:41 cait        morning drojf
08:46 BT          I just upgraded koha and the opac side. Everything is working well except the fact opac showing the maintenance page.
08:46 cait        BT: did you run the web installer yet?
08:47 cait        on the staff side?
08:47 BT          Yes
08:47 cait        there is also a system preference
08:47 cait        opacmaintenance
08:47 BT          I will check that, thanks
08:50 cait        hm question... i added a new directory for icontype images.... and icons.. and it shows the new tab but not the icons... the permissions are the same as in the other directories
08:54 BT          @cait Thanks the opacmaintenance was set to hide. you have made my day.
08:54 huginn`     BT: downloading the Perl source
08:54 cait        you are welcome
09:02 * Francesca waves
09:04 cait        hm it looks like it finds img and gif but not jpg
09:09 * andreashm waves
09:09 liw         morning
09:10 andreashm   hi liw
09:15 cait        yep that's it - it only picks up .png and .gif files
09:21 drojf       hi cait
09:26 drojf       @wunder berlin, germany
09:26 huginn`     drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Tegel, Germany is 8.0°C (10:20 AM CET on January 28, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
09:32 drojf       is it just me or is git really slow?
09:34 drojf       had to cancel and start git fetch again, now it worked
10:10 drojf       how would i fake overdue fines for testing? i am trying bug 15675
10:10 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15675 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines
10:11 drojf       i do a checkout, change the issue and due date in issues. koha knows its overdue. i run fines.pl. but i see no fines
10:11 drojf       with or without the patch
10:15 cait        you canalso check out with a past date
10:15 cait        that shoudl work as well
10:16 cait        so you dont have to change that
10:18 Joubu       drojf: what's the value of your	finesMode pref?
10:18 Joubu       same for CalculateFinesOnReturn
10:19 cait        hm and circ conditions - fine , maxfine, interval and grace period should be set, also check your calendar if you are closed today
10:20 Joubu       jajm: why did you link bug 13024 and bug 14100?
10:20 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13024 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , Nonpublic note not appearing in the staff client
10:20 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14100 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Add base to make item types, branch names, sysprefs values and authorised values translatable
10:21 drojf       finesmode is set to 'calculate (but only for mailing to the admin)', CalculateFinesOnReturn is set to 'do'
10:21 drojf       but there is nothing on return either
10:21 cait        don't use that
10:21 cait        calculate and charge
10:21 jajm        Joubu, because there's a line in the patch that depends on another line from 14100's patch
10:22 cait        i don't think that setting works even
10:22 Joubu       jajm: ha ok thanks
10:22 drojf       good to have that as a default then? or maybe i needed that for testing at some point. but i do not remember doing things with fines
10:23 drojf       so i use calculate and charge, and do for calculatefinesonreturn?
10:23 drojf       the descriptions sound like you use one or the other
10:23 cait        yep
10:23 cait        you can use both - we don't use the on return one
10:23 cait        because we have no hourly loans
10:24 cait        but it hink they don't disagree with each other
10:24 drojf       ah the on return one is because for hourly loans the daily cronjob is too late?
10:25 drojf       if that does what i think it dies then it should be ok to have both
10:26 jajm        Joubu, the same line that had to be fixed for 3.20 in bug 15431
10:26 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15431 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , svc/checkouts dies due to undefined variable (13024 merge problem)
10:26 drojf       alright, it works now. thanks Joubu and cait
10:27 cait        np
10:28 cait        drojf: yep - it recalculates the fine on return
10:28 cait        so if you want to chrage by hour, it will check the current time
10:28 drojf       yeah and when you pay before you return the book, you get charged twice. lol
10:29 cait        you shoudl never do that
10:30 cait        drojf: hm i wonder
10:30 drojf       its a regular workflow, i can pay my fines whenever i want, eg in berlin state library. good no know about that setting
10:30 cait        we have one line in issues - but there could be multiple F/FU lines
10:30 cait        if you renew and then the overdues accrue again
10:30 cait        because the due_date in issues can actually change
10:31 cait        hm shoudl ask kyle how he wants to handle this
10:31 cait        but wonder if apart formt he link we shoudl also store the due date the fine was created for in accountlines
10:35 cait        hm left a note on the bug
10:35 drojf       now marc signed off in between
10:37 * drojf     goes to do other things
12:50 oleonard    Hi #koha
12:52 cait        hi oleonard - bye all :)
12:56 onre        i've either found a rather major-ish bug in yaz package supplied with ubuntu 14.04 or alternatively i'm using it wrong
12:57 magnuse     kia ora oleonard
13:02 oleonard    Why do we have an unlimited CardnumberLength system preference if the card number column is varchar(16)?
13:09 drojf       @later tell eythian i suppose you won't be working an bug 13607 any longer?
13:09 huginn`     drojf: The operation succeeded.
14:39 andreashm   hi 3koha
14:40 andreashm   #koha
15:09 oleonard    Hi andreashm
15:13 andreashm   hi oleonard
15:30 nengard     morning all
15:41 oleonard    Hi nengard
15:41 nengard     :)
15:56 * cait      waves
16:01 bag         hi cait
16:05 drojf       evening
16:06 reiveune    bye
16:24 * cait      waves
16:24 cait        house chores...
16:24 cait        not really here :)
16:25 nengard     heh
16:26 pianohacker cait: bug 15514 :)
16:26 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15514 normal, P5 - low, ---, jweaver, Signed Off , New professional cataloguing editor does not handle repeatable fields correctly
16:27 cait        :)
16:27 pianohacker since you're not here, that :) is less a "hiiiiiiiiiii qa lady" and more just "it's fixed yay"
16:28 cait        i read it like that ;)
19:22 huginn`     New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 15240: [QA Follow-up] Minor adjustments <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d072272fa396820ec655fb7b45d30eee6fca3e8> / Bug 15240: Do not process issues with a date due later than today <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=0d36c27678a6968304990759657e2312338763eb>
20:11 kidclamp    @later tell Joubu sandboxes don't seem to be loading bugs, have had a couple reports.  Do you still maintain them?
20:11 huginn`     kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
20:12 cait        kidclamp: hm probably not - run by biblibre
20:13 kidclamp    I figured, but still on the wiki
20:13 kidclamp    possible he knows someone there too :-)
20:13 kidclamp    and hi cait!
20:13 cait        hi kidclamp :)
20:38 kidclamp    hmm...anyone around with UNIMARC knowledge?
20:38 kidclamp    wondering if 200$e needs punctuation between repeated fields
20:38 kidclamp    bug 15697
20:38 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15697 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Unnecessary comma between title and subtitle on opac-detail.pl
20:40 cait        UNIMARC includes no punctuation i think
20:40 cait        unlike MARC21
20:40 kidclamp    so we should add punctuation?
20:41 cait        for unimarc? possibly
20:41 cait        idon't know the format super well
20:42 kidclamp    thanks cait@
20:42 kidclamp    cait!
21:30 eythian     @later tell kathryn happy slightly belated birthday!
21:30 huginn`     eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:31 eythian     @later tell drojf I wouldn't expect it, no
21:31 huginn`     eythian: The operation succeeded.
21:41 * Francesca waves at eythian
21:41 eythian     hiya
21:42 Francesca   your old desk is now my desk
21:43 Francesca   hows the other side of the world going for you?
21:51 eythian     heh cool
21:51 kathryn     thanks eythian :)
21:51 eythian     it's good, just been bowling and playing laser tag this evening.
22:02 pianohacker @seen drojf
22:02 huginn`     pianohacker: drojf was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 57 minutes, and 38 seconds ago: <drojf> evening
22:04 nengard     @later tell drojf youtube integration rocks!!!!
22:04 huginn`     nengard: The operation succeeded.
22:26 cait        @later tell khall did you see my commento bug 15675?
22:26 huginn`     cait: The operation succeeded.
22:36 pianohacker drojf++
23:09 bag         bug 15675
23:09 huginn`     04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=15675 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add issue_id column to accountlines and use it for updating fines