IRC log for #koha, 2015-08-18

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00:01 wizzyrea should users be able to create an order on an inactive vendor?
00:01 wizzyrea because they can, but it will look like it didn't work
00:01 wizzyrea but if you then make the vendor active
00:01 wizzyrea the orders are there
00:01 wizzyrea this seems like a bug to me
00:02 wizzyrea but...
00:03 eythian yeah, no matter which way you cut it, that's doing something wrong
00:03 wizzyrea dunno, it's so weird.
00:03 wizzyrea at the least I think you shouldn't be able to create any new orders.
00:04 wizzyrea and you can't see any old ones anyway...
00:04 wizzyrea acquisitions is baffling.
00:08 dcook ^
00:08 * Francesca waves
00:08 dcook Blarg... what's the secret of datetimepicker...
00:09 dcook Maybe..
00:11 dcook :S
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00:14 dcook Oh perhaps..
00:16 dcook :D
00:30 dcook wtf...
00:30 dcook staff-global.css has a line for suppressing the second slider with the datetimepicker
00:30 dcook O_o
00:31 dcook That's special :/
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03:48 dcook eythian: "The name is not passed as an ordinary argument because, er, well, just because, that's why."
03:49 eythian heh
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05:42 * magnuse waves
05:43 eythian magnuse: I was watching a documentary about Norway the other day
05:43 eythian seems you have problems with trolls escaping the powerline fences.
05:44 magnuse we sure do!
05:44 magnuse and yes, that documentary is very revealing
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06:56 dcook Damn deja vu...
07:03 magnuse ?
07:03 dcook Nothing :)
07:04 dcook Just writing a XSLT that I thought I already wrote years ago
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07:16 magnuse ncip! ncip! ncip!
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07:33 dcook I love it when a xslt comes together, especially when I thought it might have been impossible... :D
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07:40 Joubu morning
07:41 dcook salut Joubu
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07:54 fridolin hue
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08:27 magnuse @wunder boo
08:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
08:27 magnuse @wunder marseille
08:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 21.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
08:28 cait @wunder amsterdam
08:28 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found.
08:28 cait @wunder ams
08:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 13.9°C (10:15 AM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady).
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08:32 magnuse cait: hah! :-)
08:39 cait hah?
08:39 cait it's raining :)
08:42 cait wish us luck... going to head out
08:48 ashimema though you were away cait?
08:49 magnuse cait: good luck!
08:49 magnuse ashimema: on holiday in amsterdam, apparently
08:49 ashimema cool
09:11 * Viktor waves and says hello!
09:12 Viktor Been on holiday and is not up to full speed just yet. But popping in to give some sort of sign of life.
09:21 * magnuse waves at Viktor then wanders off to get lunch
09:22 * Viktor waves back at Magnuse who waved back and will soon wander off too :)
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09:27 drojf hi #koha
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10:02 magnuse moin drojf
10:02 drojf hei magnuse
10:02 drojf back from vacation?
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10:36 magnuse drojf: yup
10:40 magnuse @wunder boo
10:40 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady).
10:51 drojf magnuse: hope you had a good time. have you been travelling?
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11:12 magnuse drojf: a few days in the south of norway
11:12 magnuse and a trip to lofoten
11:20 Joubu "The owner of a list is always allowed to add entries, but needs permission to remove." => Hum, why??
11:21 Joubu The owner can edit a list, and change the permissions...
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11:24 Joubu nengard: Don't you think the following does not make sense? : "The owner of a list is always allowed to add entries, but needs permission to remove."
11:25 nengard that makes no sense at all
11:25 Joubu nengard: ok thanks!
11:25 nengard if the owner can't remove stuff from their lists then why own the list?
11:25 Joubu and the owner is able to change the permissions :)
11:26 nengard wait - so the owner can make it so that the owner does not have permission?
11:26 nengard hehe .... sorry it's still early here
11:27 Joubu the owner of a list can change the permissions of his lists
11:27 drojf magnuse: sounds nice!
11:31 Joubu Ok, so, we have different cases: private or public lists and 3 permissions: allow_add, allow_delete_own and allow_delete_other
11:31 Joubu I would say the owner should *always* be able to add/delete contents to his lists
11:32 Joubu For private lists, another user is not, unless the list is shared with him
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11:32 Joubu For public lists, another user is not, unless allow_* is set
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12:06 misilot is there a list of all the available flagsrequired value items? or is it just all of the different permissions that are visible on the set permissions page for patrons ?
12:08 nengard I think the latter misilot ...
12:09 misilot thanks nengard
12:09 nengard[…]atron_Permissions
12:09 nengard misilot ^^
12:09 nengard scary stuff :)
12:10 misilot trying to figure out what the best permission for[…]_bug.cgi?id=14244 would be
12:10 huginn Bug 14244: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , viewing a bib item's circ history requires circulation permissions
12:11 misilot i feel like catalogue => "*" would be the best just wanted to read through them all
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12:17 tcohen morning!
12:18 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:18 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 12.3°C (9:15 AM ART on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising).
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12:18 tcohen hi Joubu
12:19 Joubu tcohen: o/
12:20 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
12:20 magnuse @wunder boo
12:20 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 20.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024 hPa (Falling).
12:21 tcohen hi magnuse
12:22 tcohen we had a holiday yesterday, i'll be fulltime today :-D
12:22 tcohen[…]ences_in_germany/
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12:29 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
12:29 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 11.2°C (12:20 AM NZST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
12:29 nengard @wunder 78754
12:29 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Four Seasons, Austin, Texas is 24.3°C (7:29 AM CDT on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
12:30 misilot @wunder 32901
12:30 huginn misilot: The current temperature in Timber Ridge, West Melbourne, Florida is 27.7°C (8:28 AM EDT on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising).
12:30 misilot timber ridge? that's new
12:30 nengard heh
12:30 nengard hey - i live at the four seasons apparently :)
12:31 nengard And I think the four seasons has a different zipcode than me ...
12:31 tcohen wow, bug 13791 is already signed !
12:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Plack - Out of the box support on packages
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13:16 * magnuse cheers bug 13791 on
13:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Plack - Out of the box support on packages
13:24 tcohen hi magnuse
13:24 tcohen i think we are all happy about it :-d
13:25 tcohen have you seen the tab completion?
13:25 tcohen haha, i went way too far :-P
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13:38 magnuse nope, i havn't looked at the tab completion or anything else
13:39 magnuse but i know Viktor is dying to get the library he works with onto plack
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13:49 tcohen magnuse: so he has to be really happy, because, you know
13:49 tcohen it fucking works as expected :-D
13:59 Joubu I don't want to start a troll, but Koha is not ready yet to run undef Plack
13:59 Joubu Looking at the last feedback from BibLibre, it's still not stable
13:59 tcohen that's not trolling
13:59 Joubu s/undef/under
14:00 tcohen it just enables broader usage, and that means more testing
14:00 * Joubu wrote too many tests today
14:00 tcohen Joubu++
14:00 tcohen Joubu: I disabled syspref caching btw
14:08 Joubu http://lists.koha-community.or[…]March/041286.html
14:08 Joubu and others on http://lists.koha-community.or[…]April/thread.html
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15:06 Kchris magnuse: I want to specify the location of koha perl modules for the kohadevbox, in order to install additional languages. It doesn't appear that the location is <koha_install)dir>/lib/. Can you give me a pointer about where to look?
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16:09 Joubu @later tell rangi Could you check the splitter please? bug 14667 modifies label-manage but is not listed on /files
16:09 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:23 pianohacker Joubu: RE 14655: the intent of the check I posted was to very quickly check to see if you're in the situation I detailed (patrons have privacy of 2, OPACPrivacy is off and AnonymousPatron is empty)
16:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14574: Fixing error messages on staff client so they make more sense <[…]65874b40f6816008d> / Bug 14517: List shelves list is broken for translated interfaces <[…]3d65721696a0fa176> / Bug 14529: The new list permission is 'lists', not 'shelves' <http://gi
16:24 pianohacker we can debate morals all day, you have a reasonable point, but it's a large practical concern
16:24 pianohacker alternatively, show a clearer warning when checking in/out to a patron with a privacy of 2, rather than checking all of them?
16:24 Joubu pianohacker: yes, that's seem reasonable
16:25 pianohacker currently, it shows "Unable to checkin" when you checkin from the checkout screen, and "Not checked out" when you checkin on the return screen, which is confusing :)
16:25 pianohacker Joubu: sweet :)
16:27 Joubu s/seem//
16:27 Joubu pianohacker: yes, it is, except if the administrators read the output of the updatedatabase process :)
16:28 Joubu pianohacker: but you are right, it's quite easier to add the privacy check to the existing check (the 2 pref)
16:28 pianohacker Joubu: very true, and we did catch that, but this is enough of a blocker for circ that it's worth yelling a lot about
16:29 Joubu pianohacker: Is it ok for you to add the warning only on the checkin page?
16:30 pianohacker Joubu: That's the most important place, since the checkin has the most confusing error. Any particular reason not to do it on the checkout screen?
16:31 Joubu pianohacker: laziness?
16:31 pianohacker fair :) that'll hit the most important part. Thank you
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17:30 pianohacker Joubu++
17:30 pianohacker thanks for fix on bug 14655
17:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14655 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cannot checkin without Anonymous Patron
17:31 pianohacker will sign off
17:43 Joubu you're welcome!
17:43 Joubu Have a good evening/day #koha
17:47 tcohen bye Joubu !
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18:50 wnickc nengard: successful kittenhunt?
18:50 nengard he has been found
18:50 nengard and is not wreaking havoc on my desk
18:51 wnickc at the moment that is
18:51 wnickc kittens are crafty
18:54 nengard i meant NOW
18:54 nengard not not ...
18:54 nengard sorry
18:54 nengard he is wreaking havoc
18:55 nengard he is a little phycho monster
18:59 wnickc heh
19:01 tcohen hi wnickc nengard
19:02 nengard hiya
19:03 wnickc hello
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19:58 * cait waves
20:00 tcohen hi cait!
20:07 bag heya cait and tcohen
20:07 tcohen hi bagh
20:10 wnickc 3VSPI025552295
20:10 wnickc oops
20:10 bag quick quick check that item out :)
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20:13 * cait_ waves
20:13 wnickc I just need that new OS that shifts window focus when my attention changes
20:13 cait_ hi tcohen and bag
20:17 tcohen leaving hoem
20:17 tcohen see u later fellows
20:23 cait_ @wunder AMS
20:23 huginn cait_: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.6°C (10:12 PM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
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20:24 cait @wunder AMS
20:24 huginn cait: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.6°C (10:12 PM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady).
20:35 bag @wunder pdx
20:35 huginn bag: The current temperature in Vancouver Heights, Vancouver, Washington is 33.3°C (1:35 PM PDT on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 9 PM PDT this evening...
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20:57 tcohen hi
20:57 wahanui hi, tcohen
20:59 * Francesca waves
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21:02 tcohen hi Francesca
21:02 Francesca hey what sup?
21:02 wahanui everything.
21:03 Francesca @wunder wlg
21:03 tcohen Francesca: where are you from?
21:03 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:30 AM NZST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
21:04 Francesca New Zealand
21:04 wahanui[…]ng-in-new-zealand
21:04 tcohen heh, I guess I noticed heh
21:04 Francesca wahanui keeps on answering me
21:04 wahanui Francesca: sorry...
21:05 tcohen wahanui: don't do that
21:05 wahanui tcohen: what?
21:05 Francesca tcohen: where are you from?
21:13 tcohen Francesca: Argentina
21:13 wahanui hmmm... Argentina is hosting KohaCon14!
21:14 Francesca oh cool
21:14 cdickinson hosted*
21:14 Francesca wahanui: bad bot
21:14 wahanui :(
21:14 pianohacker very much past tense :)
21:14 Francesca hey its pianohacker!
21:14 pianohacker hallo :)
21:15 Francesca how goes it?
21:16 pianohacker very busy, but good!
21:17 Francesca anytime for hacking pianos?
21:17 pianohacker yes! Just started playing again
21:18 Francesca yay! I have a keyboard test this afternoon as part of my theory paper
21:21 pianohacker found that George Winston, one of my favorite pianists, released a book of transcriptions
21:21 pianohacker check out his Variations on the Kanon if you get a chance
21:21 pianohacker and good luck!
21:24 Francesca thanks! and I will have a look at that book once i get on midterm break
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21:43 wizzyrea fun fact, you can train wahanui in a private window :)
21:43 cdickinson wizzyrea: that's how Francesca and I have been sustaining him lately
21:44 wizzyrea :) excellent
21:44 Francesca its good fun
21:44 Francesca some of his responses are very amusing
21:45 tcohen marc?
21:45 wahanui i heard marc was the standard that isn't
21:45 Francesca lol
21:45 cdickinson marc21
21:45 cdickinson no response
21:45 Francesca sad
21:45 Francesca microsoft word
21:45 wahanui microsoft word is like wahanui, it has to be trained.
21:50 eythian hi
21:50 wahanui hi, eythian
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22:33 wnickc @wunder 05059
22:33 huginn wnickc: The current temperature in Quechee Lakes Sec 1, Quechee, Vermont is 25.3°C (6:33 PM EDT on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling).
22:33 eythian[…]thday-by-adorning <-- this is excellent
22:34 wnickc hah, nice
22:35 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt
22:35 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 10.3°C (10:30 AM NZST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
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