Time Nick Message 00:01 wizzyrea should users be able to create an order on an inactive vendor? 00:01 wizzyrea because they can, but it will look like it didn't work 00:01 wizzyrea but if you then make the vendor active 00:01 wizzyrea the orders are there 00:01 wizzyrea this seems like a bug to me 00:02 wizzyrea but... 00:03 eythian yeah, no matter which way you cut it, that's doing something wrong 00:03 wizzyrea dunno, it's so weird. 00:03 wizzyrea at the least I think you shouldn't be able to create any new orders. 00:04 wizzyrea and you can't see any old ones anyway... 00:04 wizzyrea acquisitions is baffling. 00:08 dcook ^ 00:08 * Francesca waves 00:08 dcook Blarg... what's the secret of datetimepicker... 00:09 dcook Maybe.. 00:11 dcook :S 00:14 dcook Oh perhaps.. 00:16 dcook :D 00:30 dcook wtf... 00:30 dcook staff-global.css has a line for suppressing the second slider with the datetimepicker 00:30 dcook O_o 00:31 dcook That's special :/ 03:48 dcook eythian: "The name is not passed as an ordinary argument because, er, well, just because, that's why." http://perldoc.perl.org/perlsub.html#Autoloading 03:49 eythian heh 05:42 * magnuse waves 05:43 eythian magnuse: I was watching a documentary about Norway the other day 05:43 eythian seems you have problems with trolls escaping the powerline fences. 05:44 magnuse we sure do! 05:44 magnuse and yes, that documentary is very revealing 06:56 dcook Damn deja vu... 07:03 magnuse ? 07:03 dcook Nothing :) 07:04 dcook Just writing a XSLT that I thought I already wrote years ago 07:16 magnuse ncip! ncip! ncip! 07:33 dcook I love it when a xslt comes together, especially when I thought it might have been impossible... :D 07:40 Joubu morning 07:41 dcook salut Joubu 07:54 fridolin hue 07:54 fridolin hie 08:27 magnuse @wunder boo 08:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 18.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 68%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 08:27 magnuse @wunder marseille 08:27 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille / Marignane, France is 21.0°C (10:00 AM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 08:28 cait @wunder amsterdam 08:28 huginn cait: Error: No such location could be found. 08:28 cait @wunder ams 08:28 huginn cait: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 13.9°C (10:15 AM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 94%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.86 in 1011 hPa (Steady). 08:32 magnuse cait: hah! :-) 08:39 cait hah? 08:39 cait it's raining :) 08:42 cait wish us luck... going to head out 08:48 ashimema though you were away cait? 08:49 magnuse cait: good luck! 08:49 magnuse ashimema: on holiday in amsterdam, apparently 08:49 ashimema cool 09:11 * Viktor waves and says hello! 09:12 Viktor Been on holiday and is not up to full speed just yet. But popping in to give some sort of sign of life. 09:21 * magnuse waves at Viktor then wanders off to get lunch 09:22 * Viktor waves back at Magnuse who waved back and will soon wander off too :) 09:27 drojf hi #koha 10:02 magnuse moin drojf 10:02 drojf hei magnuse 10:02 drojf back from vacation? 10:36 magnuse drojf: yup 10:40 magnuse @wunder boo 10:40 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 20.0°C (12:20 PM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). 10:51 drojf magnuse: hope you had a good time. have you been travelling? 11:12 magnuse drojf: a few days in the south of norway 11:12 magnuse and a trip to lofoten 11:20 Joubu "The owner of a list is always allowed to add entries, but needs permission to remove." => Hum, why?? 11:21 Joubu The owner can edit a list, and change the permissions... 11:24 Joubu nengard: Don't you think the following does not make sense? : "The owner of a list is always allowed to add entries, but needs permission to remove." 11:25 nengard that makes no sense at all 11:25 Joubu nengard: ok thanks! 11:25 nengard if the owner can't remove stuff from their lists then why own the list? 11:25 Joubu and the owner is able to change the permissions :) 11:26 nengard wait - so the owner can make it so that the owner does not have permission? 11:26 nengard hehe .... sorry it's still early here 11:27 Joubu the owner of a list can change the permissions of his lists 11:27 drojf magnuse: sounds nice! 11:31 Joubu Ok, so, we have different cases: private or public lists and 3 permissions: allow_add, allow_delete_own and allow_delete_other 11:31 Joubu I would say the owner should *always* be able to add/delete contents to his lists 11:32 Joubu For private lists, another user is not, unless the list is shared with him 11:32 Joubu For public lists, another user is not, unless allow_* is set 12:06 misilot is there a list of all the available flagsrequired value items? or is it just all of the different permissions that are visible on the set permissions page for patrons ? 12:08 nengard I think the latter misilot ... 12:09 misilot thanks nengard 12:09 nengard http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library#Patron_Permissions 12:09 nengard misilot ^^ 12:09 nengard scary stuff :) 12:10 misilot trying to figure out what the best permission for http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14244 would be 12:10 huginn 04Bug 14244: normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , viewing a bib item's circ history requires circulation permissions 12:11 misilot i feel like catalogue => "*" would be the best just wanted to read through them all 12:17 tcohen morning! 12:18 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina 12:18 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Altos de San Martin - NW, Cordoba city, Cordoba City, Argentina is 12.3°C (9:15 AM ART on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.15 in 1021 hPa (Rising). 12:18 tcohen hi Joubu 12:19 Joubu tcohen: o/ 12:20 magnuse ¡hola tcohen! 12:20 magnuse @wunder boo 12:20 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is 20.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 53%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 30.26 in 1024 hPa (Falling). 12:21 tcohen hi magnuse 12:22 tcohen we had a holiday yesterday, i'll be fulltime today :-D 12:22 tcohen http://www.bi-international.de/english/application_forms/international_conferences_in_germany/ 12:29 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt 12:29 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 11.2°C (12:20 AM NZST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Rain. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 12:29 nengard @wunder 78754 12:29 huginn nengard: The current temperature in Four Seasons, Austin, Texas is 24.3°C (7:29 AM CDT on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 23.0°C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1013 hPa (Rising). 12:30 misilot @wunder 32901 12:30 huginn misilot: The current temperature in Timber Ridge, West Melbourne, Florida is 27.7°C (8:28 AM EDT on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 25.0°C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1018 hPa (Rising). 12:30 misilot timber ridge? that's new 12:30 nengard heh 12:30 nengard hey - i live at the four seasons apparently :) 12:31 nengard And I think the four seasons has a different zipcode than me ... 12:31 tcohen wow, bug 13791 is already signed ! 12:31 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Plack - Out of the box support on packages 13:16 * magnuse cheers bug 13791 on 13:16 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13791 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Plack - Out of the box support on packages 13:24 tcohen hi magnuse 13:24 tcohen i think we are all happy about it :-d 13:25 tcohen have you seen the tab completion? 13:25 tcohen haha, i went way too far :-P 13:38 magnuse nope, i havn't looked at the tab completion or anything else 13:39 magnuse but i know Viktor is dying to get the library he works with onto plack 13:49 tcohen magnuse: so he has to be really happy, because, you know 13:49 tcohen it fucking works as expected :-D 13:59 Joubu I don't want to start a troll, but Koha is not ready yet to run undef Plack 13:59 Joubu Looking at the last feedback from BibLibre, it's still not stable 13:59 tcohen that's not trolling 13:59 Joubu s/undef/under 14:00 tcohen it just enables broader usage, and that means more testing 14:00 * Joubu wrote too many tests today 14:00 tcohen Joubu++ 14:00 tcohen Joubu: I disabled syspref caching btw 14:08 Joubu http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2015-March/041286.html 14:08 Joubu and others on http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2015-April/thread.html 15:06 Kchris magnuse: I want to specify the location of koha perl modules for the kohadevbox, in order to install additional languages. It doesn't appear that the location is <koha_install)dir>/lib/. Can you give me a pointer about where to look? 16:09 Joubu @later tell rangi Could you check the splitter please? bug 14667 modifies label-manage but is not listed on /files 16:09 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded. 16:23 pianohacker Joubu: RE 14655: the intent of the check I posted was to very quickly check to see if you're in the situation I detailed (patrons have privacy of 2, OPACPrivacy is off and AnonymousPatron is empty) 16:23 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14574: Fixing error messages on staff client so they make more sense <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75d123d760d86f0e0d9f58d65874b40f6816008d> / Bug 14517: List shelves list is broken for translated interfaces <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=75c70d42a5df526c8bed8633d65721696a0fa176> / Bug 14529: The new list permission is 'lists', not 'shelves' <http://gi 16:24 pianohacker we can debate morals all day, you have a reasonable point, but it's a large practical concern 16:24 pianohacker alternatively, show a clearer warning when checking in/out to a patron with a privacy of 2, rather than checking all of them? 16:24 Joubu pianohacker: yes, that's seem reasonable 16:25 pianohacker currently, it shows "Unable to checkin" when you checkin from the checkout screen, and "Not checked out" when you checkin on the return screen, which is confusing :) 16:25 pianohacker Joubu: sweet :) 16:27 Joubu s/seem// 16:27 Joubu pianohacker: yes, it is, except if the administrators read the output of the updatedatabase process :) 16:28 Joubu pianohacker: but you are right, it's quite easier to add the privacy check to the existing check (the 2 pref) 16:28 pianohacker Joubu: very true, and we did catch that, but this is enough of a blocker for circ that it's worth yelling a lot about 16:29 Joubu pianohacker: Is it ok for you to add the warning only on the checkin page? 16:30 pianohacker Joubu: That's the most important place, since the checkin has the most confusing error. Any particular reason not to do it on the checkout screen? 16:31 Joubu pianohacker: laziness? 16:31 pianohacker fair :) that'll hit the most important part. Thank you 17:30 pianohacker Joubu++ 17:30 pianohacker thanks for fix on bug 14655 17:30 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14655 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Cannot checkin without Anonymous Patron 17:31 pianohacker will sign off 17:43 Joubu you're welcome! 17:43 Joubu Have a good evening/day #koha 17:47 tcohen bye Joubu ! 18:50 wnickc nengard: successful kittenhunt? 18:50 nengard he has been found 18:50 nengard and is not wreaking havoc on my desk 18:51 wnickc at the moment that is 18:51 wnickc kittens are crafty 18:54 nengard i meant NOW 18:54 nengard not not ... 18:54 nengard sorry 18:54 nengard he is wreaking havoc 18:55 nengard he is a little phycho monster 18:59 wnickc heh 19:01 tcohen hi wnickc nengard 19:02 nengard hiya 19:03 wnickc hello 19:58 * cait waves 20:00 tcohen hi cait! 20:07 bag heya cait and tcohen 20:07 tcohen hi bagh 20:10 wnickc 3VSPI025552295 20:10 wnickc oops 20:10 bag quick quick check that item out :) 20:13 * cait_ waves 20:13 wnickc I just need that new OS that shifts window focus when my attention changes 20:13 cait_ hi tcohen and bag 20:17 tcohen leaving hoem 20:17 tcohen see u later fellows 20:23 cait_ @wunder AMS 20:23 huginn cait_: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.6°C (10:12 PM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 20:24 cait @wunder AMS 20:24 huginn cait: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 14.6°C (10:12 PM CEST on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 91%. Dew Point: 13.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Steady). 20:35 bag @wunder pdx 20:35 huginn bag: The current temperature in Vancouver Heights, Vancouver, Washington is 33.3°C (1:35 PM PDT on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 27%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling). Excessive heat warning in effect until 9 PM PDT this evening... 20:57 tcohen hi 20:57 wahanui hi, tcohen 20:59 * Francesca waves 21:02 tcohen hi Francesca 21:02 Francesca hey what sup? 21:02 wahanui everything. 21:03 Francesca @wunder wlg 21:03 tcohen Francesca: where are you from? 21:03 huginn Francesca: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0°C (8:30 AM NZST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady). 21:04 Francesca New Zealand 21:04 wahanui http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/hardest-parts-about-living-in-new-zealand 21:04 tcohen heh, I guess I noticed heh 21:04 Francesca wahanui keeps on answering me 21:04 wahanui Francesca: sorry... 21:05 tcohen wahanui: don't do that 21:05 wahanui tcohen: what? 21:05 Francesca tcohen: where are you from? 21:13 tcohen Francesca: Argentina 21:13 wahanui hmmm... Argentina is hosting KohaCon14! 21:14 Francesca oh cool 21:14 cdickinson hosted* 21:14 Francesca wahanui: bad bot 21:14 wahanui :( 21:14 pianohacker very much past tense :) 21:14 Francesca hey its pianohacker! 21:14 pianohacker hallo :) 21:15 Francesca how goes it? 21:16 pianohacker very busy, but good! 21:17 Francesca anytime for hacking pianos? 21:17 pianohacker yes! Just started playing again 21:18 Francesca yay! I have a keyboard test this afternoon as part of my theory paper 21:21 pianohacker found that George Winston, one of my favorite pianists, released a book of transcriptions 21:21 pianohacker check out his Variations on the Kanon if you get a chance 21:21 pianohacker and good luck! 21:24 Francesca thanks! and I will have a look at that book once i get on midterm break 21:43 wizzyrea fun fact, you can train wahanui in a private window :) 21:43 cdickinson wizzyrea: that's how Francesca and I have been sustaining him lately 21:44 wizzyrea :) excellent 21:44 Francesca its good fun 21:44 Francesca some of his responses are very amusing 21:45 tcohen marc? 21:45 wahanui i heard marc was the standard that isn't 21:45 Francesca lol 21:45 cdickinson marc21 21:45 cdickinson no response 21:45 Francesca sad 21:45 Francesca microsoft word 21:45 wahanui microsoft word is like wahanui, it has to be trained. 21:50 eythian hi 21:50 wahanui hi, eythian 22:33 wnickc @wunder 05059 22:33 huginn wnickc: The current temperature in Quechee Lakes Sec 1, Quechee, Vermont is 25.3°C (6:33 PM EDT on August 18, 2015). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 20.0°C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013 hPa (Falling). 22:33 eythian http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/dutch-artists-celebrate-george-orwells-birthday-by-adorning <-- this is excellent 22:34 wnickc hah, nice 22:35 cdickinson @wunder lower hutt 22:35 huginn cdickinson: The current temperature in Waterloo, Lower Hutt, New Zealand is 10.3°C (10:30 AM NZST on August 19, 2015). Conditions: Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 9.0°C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).