IRC log for #koha, 2014-10-31

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00:00 eythian ^-- also wizzyrea
00:00 eythian ^-- and mtompset
00:00 dcook !!!
00:00 dcook I'm so excited
00:00 dcook Seriously, I already call him Doctor Tucker at home :p
00:00 dcook First saw him on The Thick of It.
00:01 ibeardslee dcook:
00:02 cait Patch passed qa
00:02 eythian wahanui: I'm so excited is <reply>
00:02 wahanui OK, eythian.
00:02 dcook cait++
00:02 dcook ibeardslee :P
00:02 eythian what's the bug number for the patch?
00:02 dcook 13174
00:02 cait 2014-10-30 - 200 changes
00:02 cait lots of changes on bugzilla yesterda
00:02 cait y
00:06 dcook That does sound like a lot of changes
00:08 cait it is quite a lot
00:08 cait good night :)
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00:10 dcook wizzyrea: This looks like something you'd be interested in: bug 13143
00:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13143 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Needs Signoff , Add a tool to show a Koha's password
00:28 eythian new master packages are uploading, again.
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00:35 dcook oleonard: o/
00:35 oleonard Hey
00:46 wizzyrea I"m a bit frightened.
00:46 dcook ?
00:46 wizzyrea oh, phew that is not what I thoutht it was.
00:46 wizzyrea thought*
00:47 oleonard You shouldn't have watched that scary movie about the killer doll wizzyrea
00:47 wizzyrea true!
00:48 eythian <-- oleonard, wizzyrea
00:51 rangi
00:52 rangi "im gonna draw on your face"
00:53 wizzyrea O.o
00:55 wizzyrea lol.
00:57 * oleonard thinks that maybe Netflix shouldn't have that show on the list of stuff available to the young kids
00:58 rangi yeah, its not a kids show
00:58 rangi actually most cartoon network isnt
01:01 wizzyrea isn't there an "is_instance" in the common functions for debian scripts?
01:02 wizzyrea now
01:03 eythian possibly, not sure
01:03 wizzyrea yeah, there is. mtj should use it I think.
01:05 eythian probably, yes
01:05 eythian should use those functions whereever possible
01:10 oleonard @later tell cait I agree about the layout problems with OnSiteCheckoutsForce. I'll see what I can do with it
01:10 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
01:16 * oleonard wishes the discussion about setting a standard for template indentation hadn't been so useless
01:17 * oleonard is grumpy about spaces not being spacey enough
01:17 eythian I don't think you can have a standard for that. Even when doing it a project where you're the only person, you end up having to settle on "what makes the most sense right now"
01:17 eythian mixing two markups is always going to be a pain.
01:18 oleonard Yes, but two spaces, four spaces, tabs, can we just pick one?
01:19 oleonard For ages four was the de-facto standard, now everyone (but me) seems to be switching to two
01:19 * wizzyrea only knew of 4
01:20 wizzyrea Indentation must be 4 spaces (not tabs, not 2 or 6 or 8 spaces)
01:20 eythian for templates I'd be OK with two as you can have very nested markup
01:20 wizzyrea[…]es#HTML_Templates
01:20 oleonard wizzyrea: I added that based on the rules for Perl scripts, but no one actually agreed to it.
01:20 oleonard In fact many seem to object to it so I should remove that from the wiki
01:21 eythian oleonard: just start slipping the emacs/vim codes to set the format to be whatever you like in the files.
01:34 * oleonard goes to college to learn to be RM so he can rule with an iron fist
01:34 * oleonard releases Koha 4.0 -- no new features, just consistent indentation
01:35 * oleonard thinks that's enough for one night
01:38 mtj hi #koha
01:39 mtj ta for the script info, wizzyrea ^
01:40 wizzyrea :) yeah nw, found myself untangling all that a week or so ago
01:41 mtj obv. i just cut/pasted 95% of my script from an existing one - so i had no idea
01:41 mtj koha common functions sound like a great idea, tho
01:42 wizzyrea yeah have a look at koha-create and koha-disable for usage examples
01:42 wizzyrea there are probably other examples
01:43 mtj ta, (from memory i pinched from koha-list)
01:44 wizzyrea koha list should probably use the functions too lol. :)
01:44 mtj yeah, i knwo know
01:48 mtj eythian, i prefered 2-spaces for the template files, having seen the nesting madness
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02:07 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
02:07 huginn tcohen: The current temperature in Bo Alto de San Martin, Cordoba City, Argentina is 21.7°C (11:00 PM ART on October 30, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 14.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
02:07 mtj oh meh, koha-list has been fixed already.. i might have grabbed an old version of the file
02:19 tcohen eythian: ack
02:19 tcohen will push tomorrow
02:21 wizzyrea mtj++
02:30 mtj thanks wizzyrea
02:31 mtj the koha-passwd tool seems to work as expected, if you are the correct user
02:31 wizzyrea will try to get at a signoff today
02:31 wizzyrea I was wondering about that - it's my understanding that none of those tools should work without sudo or koha-shell
02:32 wizzyrea and that is a feature, not a bug.
02:32 wizzyrea you don't want any old user of the system to be able to see the db credentials - that seems daft.
02:33 mtj yep, thats correct
02:34 mtj the unix-level file perms stop that from happening, anyhow
02:37 mtj foo1-koha$ /usr/sbin/koha-passwd koha-foo1
02:37 mtj but that works as you might hope ^
02:38 mtj ie: a koha user can get their own password - but no one elses
02:39 mtj ah, typo..
02:39 mtj foo1-koha$ /usr/sbin/koha-passwd foo1
02:39 mtj but this would fail...
02:39 mtj foo1-koha$ /usr/sbin/koha-passwd foo2
02:40 mtj foo1 user cant get foo2's password
02:42 mtj i guess a followup patch would make the tool return that users passwd, without giving an explict arg
02:43 mtj if that user is not root, blah blah
02:44 mtj ...but that might be above my bash skills
03:00 wizzyrea no I don't think that's super necessary
03:00 wizzyrea most people don't use it that way
03:00 wizzyrea most people use it with sudo.
03:02 mtj ah, yeah... i realised that no-args already displays some usage info
03:08 mtj it would be pretty easy to get the script to fail on a non-root user
03:09 mtj ...but, i do like the current 'feature' that a koha user can get their own passwd too
03:16 mtj mtompset:  hope that clears up the expected usage ^
03:17 mtompset I was just commenting in passing, because I thought that person even a sudo of the script may not function, because you don't sudo the xmlstarlet. It's a test case.
03:18 mtompset I don't mind it failing without sudo, because a plain user shouldn't have the password. :)
03:20 eythian mtj: the script will fail correctly if you don't have permissions because of the set -e
03:20 eythian mtompset: no, you don't want to sudo xmlstarlet because then users that don't have access to sudo but do have access to the file can't use it.
03:21 mtompset right, right. :)
03:22 mtompset could always check if they have rights, and if not, see if they can sudo. :)
03:22 mtompset But that is beyond the scope of the initial thought, I believe. :)
03:26 eythian there's no point
03:26 eythian set -e means that the script will fail anyway, with a permission denied error.
03:29 mtompset okay. :)
03:44 mtompset Have a great day, #koha.
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06:25 cait mveron is up early:)
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06:50 mveron Good morning (daytime) #koha
06:50 * magnuse waves
06:50 * mveron waves back
06:52 * magnuse waves specifically at mveron
06:52 * cait waves at mveron and magnuse
06:53 * mveron was bored to have always to search himself in staff client...  Bug 13176
06:53 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13176 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, veron, Needs Signoff , Add links "My account" and "My checkouts" for logged in user to drop down in staff client header
06:54 * mveron waves to cait :-)
06:55 magnuse mveron: nice one :-)
06:55 cait mveron++ # being awesome :)
06:55 mveron :-)
06:56 mveron Lazy people need eficcient tools...  :-)
06:56 mveron efficient
06:57 * mveron needs some coffee
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07:02 magnuse and hey presto, someone signed it off
07:03 magnuse cait++ for being super awesome
07:06 cait magnuse: don't say you filled up my quue again?
07:06 cait i have to leave for an early morning meeting now *sigh* cya all later, will probably be gone all morning
07:13 mveron magnuse ++
07:13 mveron cati ++
07:14 mveron cait ++  :-)
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07:33 marcelr hi #koha
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07:37 alex_a bonjour
07:38 marcelr hi alex_a
07:38 alex_a salut marcelr
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07:46 reiveune hello
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07:50 magnuse @karma space
07:50 huginn magnuse: space has neutral karma.
07:50 magnuse space++
07:50 magnuse @karma space
07:50 huginn magnuse: Karma for "space" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
07:50 magnuse space ++
07:50 magnuse @karma space
07:50 huginn magnuse: Karma for "space" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1.
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08:11 marcelr hi magnuse; still space in Norway?
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08:23 gaetan_B hello
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08:36 magnuse marcelr: yup, plenty of space here, just grab your stuff and come ;-)
08:36 marcelr :)
08:36 * magnuse was just checking that "nick ++" will not affect the karma of nick
08:36 magnuse reply to something mveron said/did
08:37 marcelr testing++
08:41 magnuse tcohen tweeted that prog was deprecated, but isn't it removed?
08:46 marcelr it is removed now, i guess
08:47 marcelr saw some commits passing by
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09:32 marcelr hi cait
09:32 cait hi marcel
09:32 marcelr working on marc mod templates now
09:32 marcelr still not really satisfied
09:33 cait i was just hinking about you reading olli-antti's comment on bug 12074
09:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12074 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, ASSIGNED , Filter duplicates when adding a full batch from a staged file
09:33 marcelr some things are already in master
09:33 cait i think so too - should be no need to redevelop
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09:37 marcelr yes, but i also meant that the current marc mod templates are not always working as expected in master now alread
09:37 marcelr y
09:38 cait ah, iwas just referring to his last comment about having written something to do thsoe change
09:38 cait are you working on the batch mod things?
09:39 marcelr i am qaing now bug 11319 first and hope to reach 11413 and 11395
09:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11319 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification templates improvements
09:41 cait marcelr: i am keeping fingers crossed
09:41 marcelr hard to type?
09:41 magnuse marcelr++
09:41 cait :)
09:41 cait marcelr++
09:42 cait marcelr: i am hopeful for rotating collections and inhouse... not sure about the others
09:42 marcelr we'll see
09:42 cait yep, but now meetings first :(
09:47 cait bbl
10:01 magnuse howdy khall
10:01 khall mornin!
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10:10 drojf hi #koha
10:11 magnuse hiya drojf
10:11 drojf hi magnuse
10:26 mveron Hi drojf!
10:27 * magnuse gives bug 6223 a sharp poke in the ribs
10:27 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6223 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , Patron categories should have a default set of permissions
10:34 * marcelr moves on to bug 11413
10:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11413 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Marc modification template has not the expected behavior if the condition and source fields are on the same field
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10:52 cait hi khall :) back for a moment
10:52 khall hi cait!
10:53 cait hi khall - thx for onsite
10:53 cait phew!
10:53 khall np!
10:53 cait i debated switching to the tt plugin but then was not sure if i wouldnot mess it up :)
10:54 cait the line i put back in was in one of the earlier patches :)
10:54 cait your patch looks good, hope we caught it all now
10:55 cait @later tell oleonard can you file a follow-up for onsite (layout problem with force) separately if you get to it, please?
10:55 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
10:56 cait khall: can you take a look at my last comments on rotating collections? i think we are pretty close now - just need to fully understand it
10:56 khall will do!
10:58 cait marcelr: aah dependency :( missed that
10:59 cait 11 enh in the queue now
10:59 marcelr cait: marc mod templates crashed at the second report ;)
10:59 marcelr sorry Joubu is not here now
11:00 cait marcelr: i saw, i should have checked those
11:00 cait yeah, we can't save them all
11:00 cait and there will be a next release.... i keep telling myself that :)
11:00 cait marcelr: if you got a bit of time left, i think 11876 would go a similar direction - catalouging... marc... :)
11:01 cait runing off again now... but will be back
11:01 marcelr cait: probably not
11:04 magnuse huh, how is the fact that someone is superlibrarian saved in the db? i assumed it would be in the user_permissions table
11:09 khall cait: replied to your questions. I think Olli covered owen's question very well in comment 80
11:30 jcamins magnuse: there's a magic number.
11:32 * magnuse suspected as much
11:32 magnuse any idea where it is stored?
11:33 jcamins Somewhere foolish.
11:33 * magnuse should have suspected as much
11:33 jcamins (no)
11:33 magnuse the magic_numbers table, perhaps? ;-)
11:34 magnuse bbiab
11:38 jcamins magnus_afk: flags
11:40 cait khall :)
11:40 cait can you fix the alphabetic branches too?
11:40 khall almost done with that patch!
11:40 cait yay!
11:42 khall it's up now!
11:43 cait can only test after work
11:43 cait but will
11:43 cait my problem with the hourly loans patche is that i miss a nice description and test plan
11:44 cait i am pretty sure that the comment from elliott at the top is not how it's implemented (sysprefs and all)
11:44 khall hmm
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11:50 khall I keep getting this when I try to get to the web installer on master: Template process failed: file error - not found at /var/lib/koha/kohaqa/kohaclone/C4/ line 127.
11:50 khall seems like a major bug, unless it's a problem with my setup. I don't get it with 3.16 though
11:54 cait khall: tcohen was working on ti
11:55 cait it seems related to the template changes
11:55 khall excellent! I don't need to file a bug then
11:55 cait bug 13169
11:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13169 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On master the web installing doesn't work
11:55 cait ihave worked around it by using the command line
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11:59 oleonard Hi all
11:59 cait hi oleonard :)
12:03 oleonard khall++ # for Bug 8836 follow-ups
12:03 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8836 new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Resurrect Rotating Collections
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12:07 khall cait: qa followup posted for bug 9303. My db update was being a bit aggressive ; )
12:07 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9303 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , relative's checkouts in the opac
12:08 cait khall: i can try again - but will look at rotating c. first
12:09 khall excellent!
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12:11 fridolin hie all
12:11 magnuse jcamins: sorry, what flags? there is a table called userflags, but is just a list of flags, not a connection to borrowers?
12:12 cait oleonard++ for the 8836 template work
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12:16 jcamins magnuse: borrowers.flags?
12:16 tcohen morning
12:18 cait morning tcohen :)
12:18 magnuse jcamins: ah, thanks. sorry for being dim!
12:18 magnuse hola tcohen
12:19 tcohen morning jcamins
12:19 jcamins Morning.
12:19 wahanui Ah, morning. The cat must be wanting breakfast.
12:19 jcamins magnuse: I think you mean "sorry for rubbing in the fact that you have way too much of the Koha database structure memorized.
12:19 * jcamins heads out.
12:20 magnuse jcamins: yeah, i was trying to be polite :-)
12:42 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Sanity check: Is this the correct test for translatable strings?" (3 lines) at
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12:45 tcohen hi dcook
12:48 oleonard Sanity check? ^^ Anyone?
12:48 tcohen ?
12:49 cait don't know. would have to test
12:49 cait :(
12:49 tcohen it is
12:49 cait ah sorry, wrong paste
12:49 cait test is fine
12:49 oleonard I thought so, since *some* of the newly added strings are there, but not all.
12:50 cait meh.
12:50 cait maybe put the text into a variable then?
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12:58 tcohen cait:
12:59 cait yes?
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13:38 druthb cait:
13:39 cait hi druthb :)
13:39 * druthb offers cait a cookie.
13:40 cait thank you :)
13:40 cait khall++
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14:35 tcohen bug 13169
14:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13169 blocker, P1 - high, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , C4::Templates::themelanguage fails if the DB is not populated
14:37 nengard hey all, isn't there a bug/enh for batch biblio modifications ? I can't find it
14:37 cait nengard: try batch record
14:37 oleonard Bug 11395
14:37 wahanui it has been said that Bug 11395 is the sexy one. The others one are important too, they fixes some important issues
14:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, BLOCKED , Batch modifications for records
14:38 nengard that's not the one - that's the one for the modification templates for importing - or is that the only one?
14:38 oleonard wahanui: forget Bug 11395
14:38 wahanui oleonard: I forgot bug 11395
14:39 cait nengard:  i think that's the general one
14:39 cait working with a bibnumber/authid list
14:39 cait like the other batch tools
14:40 nengard okey dokey
14:40 nengard thanks!!
14:40 cait nengard_afk: there is also one for batch record deletes - that*s in passed qa :)
14:46 tcohen oleonard: have a mission for you .-D
14:46 oleonard Okay
14:46 tcohen do u have a wide screen (like 23'')?
14:47 * oleonard gets out his tape measure
14:47 oleonard Not quite that wide :)
14:47 oleonard Why?
14:47 tcohen the webinstaller page has a useless  <h1><a>Koha 3.0 Installer</a></h1>
14:48 tcohen that is moved like 1000px left
14:48 tcohen so it is not shown :-D
14:48 oleonard Oh yeah, I have a solution for that
14:48 tcohen could you please delete it and fix the CSS so the logo shows correctly?
14:48 tcohen :-P
14:49 * oleonard is kidding... kinda
14:49 tcohen we should just remove it, I think
14:50 oleonard Since we just had a question on the mailing list about customizing the staff client logo I think we need to keep logos customizable in CSS
14:50 tcohen definitely
14:51 tcohen i mean, remove the H1 and insert a proper div for the logo
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14:51 oleonard What you see is a symptom of the CSS image-replacement technique that uses the <h1> as a hook for showing the image
14:52 tcohen i know
14:52 oleonard Okay then I don't understand what solution you are proposing.
14:53 tcohen <div id="logo"/> or something like that?
14:54 oleonard Then there is no longer any semantic meaning for the element
14:55 nengard cait cool - what's the number on that?
14:55 cait bug 12403
14:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12403 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , Batch record deletion
14:55 tcohen i don't follow you oleonard, I'm just saying that there are ways of inserting images using CSS that don't rely on padding 10000px an h1
14:56 oleonard I think I should research current image replacement techniques to see what's out there
14:56 tcohen isn't background-image: functional?
14:57 oleonard <div id="logo"/> with a background image has no meaning to a screen reader or a search engine, so in principle it is not a good solution
14:57 jcamins What about <img src="logo.jpg"></img> with logo.jpg configurable in a syspref?
14:57 jcamins Or aria markup.
14:58 jcamins Or, better, both.
14:58 tcohen img +
14:58 tcohen alt
14:58 tcohen should work
14:58 tcohen aria?
14:59 jcamins tcohen:
14:59 tcohen thanks jcamins!
14:59 jcamins tcohen: I recommend you not start reading it until after noon.
14:59 tcohen oleonard: i wasn't thinking from an accesibility pov
14:59 tcohen that's why i didn't understand the problem
15:02 jcamins And since we no longer support IE6, we can now use max-width.
15:04 oleonard We no longer support IE6?! Oh my god why didn't anyone tell me?!
15:04 jcamins lol
15:06 oleonard tcohen: A bug for this already exists: Bug 13017
15:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13017 trivial, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Login page image replacement technique fails when browser width exceeds 2000 pixels
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15:09 tcohen oleonardle
15:09 tcohen thanks oleonard
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15:38 bag cbrannon++
15:38 bag for volunteering for QA
15:42 cait heh
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15:48 * wajasu having fun building packages today for testing wheezy and ubuntu bugs
15:48 tcohen :-D
15:49 * wajasu trying to use docker as well
15:49 bag heya tcohen HAPPY WEEN!
15:49 tcohen :-D
15:49 tcohen heh
15:52 cait happy halloween :)
16:05 reiveune bye
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16:17 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13141: (QA Followup) Update number of unit tests <[…]0857b83da8bda065c> / Bug 13141: Add ability for biblio_framework to be a dropdown in Guided Reports <[…]1fe7f921510bfe94c> / Bug 13174 : XSLT fails if, and only if you have an author, linked to an autho
16:19 cait can someon sign off bug 13141 please? :)
16:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13141 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Pushed to Master , Add ability for biblio_framework to be a dropdown in Guided Reports
16:19 cait hm not that one
16:19 cait i meant bug 13179
16:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13179 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Circulation page layout problem when OnSiteCheckoutsForce is enabled
16:20 bag signoff?
16:20 wahanui signoff is by rangi
16:21 bag I will take a look cait
16:21 cait thx?
16:21 cait thx! even
16:21 cait .... and now i am gone for a bit :)
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16:39 gaetan_B bye!
16:48 fridolin bye
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16:59 oleonard Hm, another problem with Bug 10860 I think...
16:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10860 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , On-site checkouts (was In-House Use)
17:00 oleonard If  OnSiteCheckouts is disabled but  OnSiteCheckoutsForce is enabled the circulation page appears as if you can check out to a blocked patron
17:01 oleonard "Only on-site checkouts are allowed" appears, but submitting a barcode for checkout will show an error (e.g. "Patron's card is expired")
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17:01 cait hmm
17:01 cait i think that might be our fault
17:01 cait missing check in the template?
17:02 oleonard It's probably as simple as that.
17:02 oleonard I'll keep looking at it.
17:18 tcohen is mathieu here?
17:19 cait tcohen: i think he never is these days really
17:19 cait msaby?
17:19 wahanui msaby is not here for a question, but an answer ;-)
17:19 tcohen @seen msaby
17:19 huginn tcohen: msaby was last seen in #koha 1 year, 1 week, 3 days, 22 hours, 40 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: <msaby> cait:so if I understant, if  these fields are not harmful, better not touching it...
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17:57 oleonard Ugh, on-site checkouts are making me grumpy!
17:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 11876 [Unit test] Add a diff view to staged MARC Records <[…]dc34d0cd3c0550766> / Bug 11876: (qa-followup) some minor changes <[…]4ab5158440befbabb> / Bug 11876 [Follow-up] Add a diff view to staged MARC Records <
18:01 cait oleonard:  :(
18:01 cait what#s now?
18:02 oleonard I'm still on the same issue because I took a break for lunch.
18:02 * oleonard doesn't just eat Koha bugs, also food
18:05 cait :) i just had dinner
18:05 cait now i am gearing up for  rotating collections
18:05 cait can you say that?
18:07 oleonard Yes
18:09 oleonard wahanui: gear up! is <reply>[…]-commando-gif.gif
18:09 wahanui OK, oleonard.
18:09 oleonard gear up!
18:09 wahanui[…]-commando-gif.gif
18:10 cait :)
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18:26 oleonard Ooh, a "CSS3 For Responsive Web Design" workshop in Oslo. I hear December in Norway is lovely.
18:26 cait it's daaaaark
18:28 wajasu scary
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18:57 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13065 - Receive shipment error message incorrectly styled <[…]064f2c7c5b9528284> / Bug 643 [Template follow-up] Allow override of 'debarred' status <[…]dcf4b2906cc84b241> / Bug 643: QA Followup - server-side verification of permissions <http://git.koha-co
19:01 * cait crosses another off the list
19:02 cait khall_away: ?
19:03 cait khall_away: if you stop by, ping me?
19:31 cait rotating collections has left the building... um qa queue
19:39 wnickc huzzah!  That was a long one
19:41 cait yeah
19:41 cait hopefully we didn'tmiss anything - that would be really really annoying now :)
19:42 cait wnickc: are you available for a sign off maybe?
19:43 cait bug 13184, depending on 10860
19:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13184 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Circulation template problems if OnSiteCheckouts is off but OnSiteCheckoutsForce is on
19:44 wnickc let me give it a shot
19:44 cait hm 10860 has a little conflict - i will try to resolve
19:45 cait our beloved RM just pushed a new feature on the same template :)
19:46 tcohen hey
19:46 tcohen not my fault :-P
19:46 tcohen have a nice weekend #koha
19:47 cait you too tcohen :)
19:47 cait hmmm
19:48 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 13163: NORMARC DOM config missing entry <[…]7d035235bdcf313a3> / Bug 11714: A fund is a top-level fund if it does not have any parent <[…]2927240d9660bcb69> / Bug 11714 - GetBudgetHierarchy needs optimization <
19:51 cait wnickc: git is giving me trouble :(
19:51 cait i will try to resolve
19:51 wnickc keep me posted ciat
19:51 wnickc cait
19:52 wnickc I am here for a bit
19:52 cait :)
20:01 cait hm10860 - 13183 works now...
20:04 cait wnickc: youcan try now i think - first 10860 then 13179 then 13184
20:04 cait and the ...84 is the one to sign off .. ugh :)
20:06 wnickc testing now
20:07 cait thx a lot :)
20:08 cait for a moment i was worried i wouldn#t get them to apply again
20:08 cait but phew
20:24 wnickc all looks good in terms of test plan cait but one question
20:24 cait yep listening :)
20:25 wnickc with both rpefs enabled, for a restricted patron
20:25 wnickc I can hit the clear box on the current date for onsirte
20:25 cait let me see
20:25 wnickc still goes out as Onsite checkout, but goes out for longer
20:26 wnickc prob not this bug's problem, but is maybe a new bug
20:26 cait yeah, can you check what date you get when checking ou tthen?
20:26 cait my guess is it will default to the right one, so the bug would be more trivial
20:27 wnickc seems to follow general circ rules
20:27 cait hm interesting
20:27 wahanui interesting is probably sometimes good and sometimes bad
20:27 cait wnickc: please file another bug
20:28 cait one... after the other
20:28 wnickc will do, signing off this one
20:28 cait thank you :)
20:34 wnickc cait: usage question too, should rental fees be charged for On-site checkouts?
20:35 wnickc bug 13185
20:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13185 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , On Site Checkouts - Should not be able to clear today's date
20:42 cait hm
20:42 cait wnickc: i think most of th etime you will still have circulation conditions for those - rare books and the like
20:43 cait so then you would not have defined a rental fee... but it's a good question
20:43 cait i think maybe something for an enh more than a bug?
20:44 wnickc I could see that, all depends on how it is used
20:44 wnickc we librarians like to see how much we can get out of each feature
20:44 wnickc :)
20:45 wnickc like course reserves used for book groups
20:46 cait wnickc: totally understandable :)
20:46 cait i think this feature will change over time - but that's not a bad thing
20:47 cait but first it needs to get in without causing trouble by being there :)
20:47 cait (not breaking stuff)
20:48 wnickc indeed
20:52 cait if yo ustill got a little time, I think tcohen would be very happy about 13169 - and i could qa it then
20:55 cait wnickc++
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21:06 wnickc cait: just to check the test plan
21:07 wnickc creating a new instance 'sudo koha-create --createdb wnickc'
21:07 wnickc is all that is needed?
21:08 cait and running the web installer
21:08 cait currently it#s broken - because we removed he old opac themes and there was a side effect
21:10 cait wnickc: looking at relatives checkouts now... should sound familiar to you :)
21:10 wnickc :)
21:13 cait looking at the comment from you #143
21:14 cait i am a bit worried about the last bit
21:15 cait will see how it looks i ntesting
21:15 wnickc just pretend I didn't say it
21:15 wnickc I say alot of things
21:15 wnickc bug 13169
21:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13169 blocker, P1 - high, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , C4::Templates::themelanguage fails if the DB is not populated
21:18 cait hehe
21:48 cait wnickc: thx again!
21:48 * cait logs off to get some sleep
21:49 wnickc good night
21:49 wahanui Don't go, wnickc. Stay a while. Stay forever.
21:49 wnickc and no prob
21:49 wnickc :)
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