IRC log for #koha, 2014-04-10

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01:34 mtompset flash player update.
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02:07 nc-th Hi everyone! I am using Koha 3.08. I have a question on "Fast Add Framework". I left out tag 082 when I edited the framework. When I actually catalog, 082 keeps showing up. Anywhere else should I look into fixing this?
02:08 dcook nc-th: You might need to clear your cache if you're using memcached
02:09 dcook Try: echo 'flush_all' | nc localhost 11211
02:10 dcook Where 11211 is the port for your memcached server
02:12 nc-th dcook: thanks a lot. I will try.
02:13 dcook The other idea might be that you're accidentally using the default framework instead of the FA framework ;).
02:13 dcook But I've had the caching thing happen to me quite a few times so hopefully that's it
02:13 dcook Btw, you can find out the memcached server port by consulting your koha-conf.xml
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02:32 gml hello people, please a question more on here (i couldn't find this on google search): is the "<no file>" part in the following line from the zebrasrv log an error, or it's normal operation?
02:32 gml **:**:**-09/04 zebrasrv(3435) [log] add grs.xml <no file> 0
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02:36 gml because in another zebra cases, like in[…]ember/001295.html (it's possible that this one isn't related with koha) this line appears as:   13:06:57-27/11 zebraidx(11624) [log] add grs.xml records/record_777776.xml 0
02:39 gml I was debugging, but it's not returning any error (via the "warn lines" i can see in the console, neither in /var/log/messages)
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02:42 eythian[…]ion-715522731.htm
02:46 Sean HI all, print hold notices question....
02:48 Sean 11 branches, and having print notices generated based on patron home library is causing big problems. Can these notices be based upon pickup location instead?
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04:59 dcook So I was getting yaz-client seg faults...
04:59 dcook And eventually I figured out it was due to a bad .yazclient.history file.
04:59 * dcook loves strace
05:05 dcook No idea why the .yazclient.history file was bad. Looked perfectly fine.
05:06 dcook Also turns out that Zebra doesn't like it when a distro puts Zebra in lib64 rather than lib...all the badness O_O
05:06 dcook Silent badness
05:07 eythian it _shouldn't_ matter
05:07 eythian unless there's two different versions (different arches?) and it hits the wrong one first.
05:12 dcook Well, it seems to only look in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib, so it wasn't finding it at all.
05:12 dcook But yeah, I think the silent part is that it was finding some libs from an older version
05:12 * dcook isn't sure why the older version was still around, of cours
05:12 dcook e
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05:13 dcook "it" being that is
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05:14 dcook I've only started noticing a lib64 on servers recently
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05:24 eythian hmm, it might not be in ld.whateveritis
05:24 eythian
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05:35 dcook
05:35 eythian /etc/$1
05:35 dcook Interesting
05:35 wahanui well, Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
05:38 dcook It looks like those are linked at run time so they're probably all right...just hitting the wrong one first like you say
05:59 * magnuse waves
05:59 wajasu man idzebra-config
06:02 eythian ?
06:02 wajasu ldd /usr/bin/yaz-client
06:05 dcook Much appreciated, wajasu. I already knew the lib64 modules were the ones I wanted
06:05 dcook But only points to lib
06:06 dcook But should link lib64 in at runtime it seems
06:06 dcook But the old modules were getting in the way it would appear
06:06 dcook ldd seems neat though
06:06 dcook Ah...
06:07 dcook ldd invokes the dynamic linker
06:07 dcook That's extra cool
06:08 * dcook re-reads what he wrote
06:08 dcook It just sounds weird now :p
06:09 dcook Yaz-client seemed all right, btw. I think it was zebraidx that was having no fun.
06:15 wajasu dcook: don't know if you are in the position to run dev installs for that preliminary bug 11232 patch for zebra facets. its in assigned state.  i still need to add unimarc, but that can be a followup.
06:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Retrieve facets from Zebra
06:17 dcook Alas, I don't have much time at the moment. I'm focusing more on local stuff at the moment, unfortunately.
06:18 wajasu i think i have another week so to work on it, but if i disappear for a few months i know i will forget all the search stuff i learned. so thats why i checked it in.
06:19 wajasu i think folks will be focues on apr 24th release efforts, which it probably won't be apart of.
06:24 dcook I know I certainly appreciate you taking the time to make a patch :)
06:25 dcook Yeah, given that 3.16's deadlines are coming up, I'm focusing more on small stuff.
06:25 dcook Well, local stuff first, then whatever small stuff that can go back upstream.
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06:31 marcelr hi #koha
06:33 dcook yo marcelr
06:33 marcelr hi dcook
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06:41 reiveune hello
06:41 dcook salut reiveune
06:42 reiveune bonjour dcook magnuse rangi :)
06:42 magnuse bonjour reiveune
06:47 magnuse @wunder marseille
06:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 8.8°C (8:47 AM CEST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
06:47 magnuse @wunder boo
06:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
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06:58 alex_a bonjour
07:00 dcook @wunder sydney, australia
07:00 huginn dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (4:30 PM EST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:00 dcook salut alex_a
07:00 dcook magnuse: Isn't it supposed to be spring there?
07:00 dcook I suppose there is still snow back home in Canada...
07:04 magnuse dcook: nah, a little bit early
07:04 magnuse well, it actually feels like spring now, but that temp is pretty normal
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07:21 trongtritran91 alo
07:21 trongtritran91 please help me
07:23 trongtritran91 helo everyone
07:26 paxed why is RESERVESLIP printed for both transfers AND reserves? shouldn't there be different slips for each?
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07:46 * magnuse wonders if that really is khall or just some sleepless ghost
07:57 dcook all right time to go!
07:58 dcook Movie night w/ wife!
08:00 magnuse have fun dcook
08:03 trongtritran91 oh, when i search in box of koha
08:03 trongtritran91 result is not well
08:04 trongtritran91 ex; my book name is: Lập Trình C
08:05 trongtritran91 when i type in search box: Lập Trình C is result wel
08:05 trongtritran91 but i type in search book: lap trinh c is no result .
08:05 trongtritran91 help me
08:11 trongtritran91 please! help me
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09:17 magnuse hiya matts and atheia
09:18 atheia Morning magnuse.
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09:21 vfernandes hi :)
09:36 paxed i've got a patch that changes the date calculation for reserve expiration so it skips all holidays. would anyone else be interested in that?
09:37 magnuse sounds like a good thing to me
09:42 atheia Sounds good indeed — but may need a preference to switch it on and off?
09:43 paxed and it would need the some extra test written for Calendar, but I have never done any of those.
09:43 paxed s/the //
09:54 paxed bug 12063
09:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays
10:44 vfernandes z3950 searching not working... what can I do?
10:45 vfernandes there is the need to open some specific port?
10:46 vfernandes i've compared two of mine Koha installation: one on my server which is working, another on client server which is not working
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12:25 oleonard Hi #koha
12:28 magnuse hiya oleonard
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12:57 * chris_n is looking for someone with a working 3.12 koha to confirm bug 12064
12:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12064 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, In Discussion , labels that don't use the splitter print zeros
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13:56 rhcl This could be interesting. I wanna watch.
13:57 oleonard ?
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14:34 rhcl @wunder 64507
14:34 huginn rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 16.3°C (9:34 AM CDT on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
14:43 Topic for #koha is now Next general meeting is 7 May 2014 at 15:00 and 21:00 UTC. Welcome to the IRC home of Koha Please use for pastes.
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14:45 oleonard Hi paul_p, still traveling?
14:46 paul_p hi oleonard, yes, still in moldova ;-)
14:46 paul_p will be back on saturday morning
14:47 gmcharlt paul_p: neat!
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14:49 oleonard chris_n still around?
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15:02 reiveune bye
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15:18 oleonard Thousands of websites still hosted on Windows XP[…]n-windows-xp.html
15:18 oleonard The best bit: "Netcraft's April 2014 survey also found 50,000 websites which are hosted on even older Windows NT4 servers running Microsoft IIS 4.0, although three quarters of these sites are served from the same computer in Norway."
15:18 * oleonard looks pointedly at magnuse
15:19 gmcharlt :)
15:22 druthb magnuse!
15:22 wahanui magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
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15:30 oleonard Oh great, renewals from circ/ are entered into the statistics table with no branch >:(
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15:50 * wajasu still has unix servers running from the 80's and early 90's. amazed the boxes are still up.
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16:21 bag morning
16:21 wahanui i think morning is a state of cat
16:21 bag magnuse  HI
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16:27 druthb hi, bag!
16:36 bag heya druthb
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17:20 Edveal Hello
17:20 wahanui hi, Edveal
17:20 Edveal Just showing #koha to a self hosted librarian
17:21 oleonard Hi self hosted librarian!
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17:31 chris_n oleonard: here for just a moment
17:32 oleonard chris_n: I was just wondering what the test plan was for trying to reproduce that label bug
17:34 chris_n what I did was this
17:36 chris_n 1. in the label creator tool, create two layouts for BIB only, selecting just the callnumber field, and setting the font to some reasonable size
17:36 chris_n 2. create a small batch of labels
17:37 chris_n 3. export the batch twice; once using the layout with "split callnumber" selected (I failed to mention that in step 1); and the other with the layout without the splitting option
17:37 chris_n 4. compare the two resulting pdfs
17:38 chris_n I'm assuming that is what nicole did
17:38 chris_n I'm off for a bit, but will check back
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18:13 chris_n back
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18:16 pianohacker Yo
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18:18 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
18:18 mtompset jcamins: Are you here? :)
18:19 oleonard pianohacker: Could I get you to test Bug 12058?
18:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12058 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , OverDrive search results page doesn't show cart, lists, or login links
18:21 mtompset oleonard: Wow. That was a big oversight. :)
18:22 oleonard Well, the effects are subtle if you're focused on the search results
18:25 alphaman oleonard: wow, good catch. I didn't see that 'til you mentioned it. thanks for patching!
18:26 pianohacker oleonard: Sure, I'll try to take a crack at it later today
18:47 oleonard My session had timed out, clicked the "Remove restriction" link in the staff client and was redirected to the OPAC login page.
18:48 pianohacker oleonard: aw dammit now that I'm not on mobile I see what I did. Dangit.
18:48 oleonard (members/​234&borrower_debarment_id=1234&action=del)
19:01 chris_n oleonard: I added that test procedure to the bug
19:01 * chris_n figured that might have been the reason for the question to being with :-)
19:02 oleonard Thanks chris_n. The first time I tested it I couldn't reproduce the problem. I'll try again to make sure I wasn't testing incorrectly.
19:02 mtompset debarment? That reminds me of a patch...
19:04 oleonard A fond memory I hope mtompset
19:04 mtompset No... there was a bug, I remember seeing it fixed... trying to find it again.
19:06 mtompset bug 11182
19:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Warnings in circulation
19:07 rangi morning
19:07 mtompset particularly the last section of the first patch file.
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19:07 oleonard Dear someone smart: Please fix Bug 12066.
19:08 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12066 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , New renew page in staff client doesn't record branch in statistics
19:08 oleonard That bug is going to make me have to correct my stats for 6 months to come.
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19:11 rangi its interesting
19:11 rangi because circ/ calls AddRenewal
19:11 rangi which does the updatestats call
19:12 oleonard rangi: But doesn't pass the branchcode to AddRenewal
19:12 rangi yep
19:12 rangi which is pretty stupid of it
19:12 oleonard :|
19:16 rangi presumably in that case, it should be renewing as the branch the librarian has set themselves to
19:17 rangi different logic to the opac case at least anyway
19:19 rangi it'll probably need a syspref, so the behaviour can be controlled, log renewal at patron homebranch, log renewal at item homebranch, log renewal at item current branch, log renewal at branch librarian has chosen when logging in
19:19 rangi are the cases i can think of
19:20 rangi im not going to have time to work on it in the near future unfortunately
19:20 oleonard When we renew from we assume the logged in branch gets credit don't we?
19:21 rangi yep
19:22 rangi different to opac
19:22 rangi where we do logic more like the above, except the last case is opac-renew
19:26 oleonard I don't think a new system pref is necessary... just pass the logged-in branch and make it work the way renewals do.
19:26 oleonard Or am I missing something?
19:27 rangi only if you think is working correctly
19:28 oleonard I do. And let's leave it at that before someone decides it's broken! :P
19:28 rangi yep, should be a 1 line patch then
19:29 rangi well a bit more
19:29 rangi we need to do
19:30 rangi if (!C4::Context->userenv && !$branch){
19:30 rangi if ($session->param('branch') eq 'NO_LIBRARY_SET'){
19:30 rangi # no branch set we can't issue
19:30 rangi print $query->redirect("/cgi-bin/koha​/circ/");
19:30 rangi exit;
19:30 rangi }
19:30 rangi }
19:30 rangi something like that
19:30 rangi to make sure they have a branch set
19:30 rangi with my $branch  = C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'};
19:31 rangi and then just pass $branch
19:33 rangi maybe
19:33 rangi if (!C4::Context->userenv){
19:33 rangi redirect
19:34 rangi }
19:34 rangi my $branch  = C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'};
19:34 rangi near the top of the script
19:35 rangi we may as well bail as fast as we can
19:36 rangi if i was going to be at a real computer in the near future id have a go, but i wont be until monday
19:36 * oleonard pastes the whole conversation into the script and puts it into production
19:37 rangi heh
19:38 bag awesome
19:40 rangi im off to here today assuming the mist/fog goes away soon
19:40 * oleonard dispatches Rudolph
19:45 oleonard http://www.socialprogressimper[…]spi/countries/NZL
19:46 rangi number 1 number 1
19:54 rangi right taking kids to school
19:57 wajasu access to advanced education might create disatisfaction in the area of personal opportunity ...
20:10 rhcl what reasons would indicate a need to run the following: http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n/resetzebra.html
20:12 rhcl would running those scripts routinely (every night?) improve search results?
20:14 wajasu i think that creates the initial zebra directories/ shadow registers and such.  it might be a one time thing, but if they get corrupted...  or maybe files get left around during indexing from a crash/kill of the app (should be rare)
20:15 wajasu it deletes them
20:15 wajasu man zebraidx
20:43 rhcl tnx wajasu
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20:45 wajasu rhcl: every time you run with -r ir does that reset clean up things.
20:46 rhcl yea, cron runs that script every night
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23:26 pianohacker Are we not really keeping kohastructure.sql alphabetized anymore?
23:27 eythian hi
23:27 mtompset pianohacker: We are supposed to be. why?
23:27 mtompset Greetings, eythian pianohacker. :)
23:27 pianohacker mtompset: Take a look at the version in HEAD. Where would you put a table called external_targets? :)
23:28 mtompset Oh, I was thinking system preferences.
23:28 mtompset Was kohastructure every alphabetical?
23:29 mtompset Was kohastructure ever alphabetical?
23:29 pianohacker It was at some point...
23:29 pianohacker At this point, it looks like we've just said to hell with it and started throwing things at the end
23:30 * pianohacker assumes that in this particularly, everything is properly alphabetized and sorted and filed :)
23:30 pianohacker *particular project
23:31 dcook hehe
23:31 dcook There is probably a saying for this situation...
23:32 dcook I'll be glad when we (hopefully) don't have to use kohastructure.sql anymore
23:33 pianohacker Yeah, are there plans for that, now that we have the schema smushed properly into Koha::Schema?
23:33 dcook Is it just me or are the values for the -g flag wrong here? http://manual.koha-community.o[…]n/resetzebra.html
23:33 dcook Shouldn't those be marcxml?
23:34 dcook We have both iso2709 and marcxml defined in the .cfg...
23:35 eythian I suppose it depends on if you're using DOM or grs-1. But that's just a guess.
23:36 dcook Hmm, the files that those groups differentiate are nearly identical
23:36 dcook In the case of authorities, I think we've only been using DOM for a while anway
23:37 dcook I think dom and grs-1 get different .cfg files anyway
23:38 dcook Ahh, looks like iso2709 is the correct option..
23:38 dcook At least in the grs-1 context, a group of "iso2709" means you can use iso marc or marcxml..
23:39 dcook pianohacker: No idea :S
23:39 * dcook probably couldn't be more out of touch with Koha's direction atm
23:39 dcook :/
23:40 pianohacker why so?
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23:51 mtompset dcook: I bet I'm more out of touch than you. :P
23:54 dcook pianohacker: I'm never around for meetings and even when I read the minutes, I don't get the feeling that we really have a plan.
23:55 dcook Or that it's all happening behind closed doors
23:55 dcook But, I don't have much in the way of contributions lately, so I can't complain too much :p
23:56 eythian keep in mind there's plans, and then there's what people actually put time into doing.
23:56 eythian they may not be the same thing
23:57 dcook Mmm, also very true
23:58 dcook I suppose people aren't responsible for saying what they're up to either

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