Time  Nick           Message
23:58 dcook          I suppose people aren't responsible for saying what they're up to either
23:57 dcook          Mmm, also very true
23:56 eythian        they may not be the same thing
23:56 eythian        keep in mind there's plans, and then there's what people actually put time into doing.
23:55 dcook          But, I don't have much in the way of contributions lately, so I can't complain too much :p
23:55 dcook          Or that it's all happening behind closed doors
23:54 dcook          pianohacker: I'm never around for meetings and even when I read the minutes, I don't get the feeling that we really have a plan.
23:51 mtompset       dcook: I bet I'm more out of touch than you. :P
23:40 pianohacker    why so?
23:39 dcook          :/
23:39 * dcook        probably couldn't be more out of touch with Koha's direction atm
23:39 dcook          pianohacker: No idea :S
23:38 dcook          At least in the grs-1 context, a group of "iso2709" means you can use iso marc or marcxml..
23:38 dcook          Ahh, looks like iso2709 is the correct option..
23:37 dcook          I think dom and grs-1 get different .cfg files anyway
23:36 dcook          In the case of authorities, I think we've only been using DOM for a while anway
23:36 dcook          Hmm, the files that those groups differentiate are nearly identical
23:35 eythian        I suppose it depends on if you're using DOM or grs-1. But that's just a guess.
23:34 dcook          We have both iso2709 and marcxml defined in the .cfg...
23:33 dcook          Shouldn't those be marcxml?
23:33 dcook          Is it just me or are the values for the -g flag wrong here? http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/resetzebra.html
23:33 pianohacker    Yeah, are there plans for that, now that we have the schema smushed properly into Koha::Schema?
23:32 dcook          I'll be glad when we (hopefully) don't have to use kohastructure.sql anymore
23:31 dcook          There is probably a saying for this situation...
23:31 dcook          hehe
23:30 pianohacker    *particular project
23:30 * pianohacker  assumes that in this particularly, everything is properly alphabetized and sorted and filed :)
23:29 pianohacker    At this point, it looks like we've just said to hell with it and started throwing things at the end
23:29 pianohacker    It was at some point...
23:29 mtompset       Was kohastructure ever alphabetical?
23:28 mtompset       Was kohastructure every alphabetical?
23:28 mtompset       Oh, I was thinking system preferences.
23:27 pianohacker    mtompset: Take a look at the version in HEAD. Where would you put a table called external_targets? :)
23:27 mtompset       Greetings, eythian pianohacker. :)
23:27 mtompset       pianohacker: We are supposed to be. why?
23:27 eythian        hi
23:26 pianohacker    Are we not really keeping kohastructure.sql alphabetized anymore?
20:46 rhcl           yea, cron runs that script every night
20:45 wajasu         rhcl: every time you run rebuild_zebra.pl with -r ir does that reset clean up things.
20:43 rhcl           tnx wajasu
20:15 wajasu         man zebraidx
20:15 wajasu         it deletes them
20:14 wajasu         i think that creates the initial zebra directories/ shadow registers and such.  it might be a one time thing, but if they get corrupted...  or maybe files get left around during indexing from a crash/kill of the app (should be rare)
20:12 rhcl           would running those scripts routinely (every night?) improve search results?
20:10 rhcl           what reasons would indicate a need to run the following: http://manual.koha-community.org/3.12/en/resetzebra.html
19:57 wajasu         access to advanced education might create disatisfaction in the area of personal opportunity ...
19:54 rangi          right taking kids to school
19:46 rangi          number 1 number 1
19:45 oleonard       http://www.socialprogressimperative.org/data/spi/countries/NZL
19:40 * oleonard     dispatches Rudolph
19:40 rangi          im off to here http://baacamp.org/ today assuming the mist/fog goes away soon
19:38 bag            awesome
19:37 rangi          heh
19:36 * oleonard     pastes the whole conversation into the script and puts it into production
19:36 rangi          if i was going to be at a real computer in the near future id have a go, but i wont be until monday
19:35 rangi          we may as well bail as fast as we can
19:34 rangi          near the top of the script
19:34 rangi          my $branch  = C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'};
19:34 rangi          }
19:33 rangi          redirect
19:33 rangi          if (!C4::Context->userenv){
19:33 rangi          maybe
19:31 rangi          and then just pass $branch
19:30 rangi          with my $branch  = C4::Context->userenv->{'branch'};
19:30 rangi          to make sure they have a branch set
19:30 rangi          something like that
19:30 rangi          }
19:30 rangi          }
19:30 rangi          exit;
19:30 rangi          print $query->redirect("/cgi-bin/koha/circ/selectbranchprinter.pl");
19:30 rangi          # no branch set we can't issue
19:30 rangi          if ($session->param('branch') eq 'NO_LIBRARY_SET'){
19:30 rangi          if (!C4::Context->userenv && !$branch){
19:29 rangi          we need to do
19:29 rangi          well a bit more
19:28 rangi          yep, should be a 1 line patch then
19:28 oleonard       I do. And let's leave it at that before someone decides it's broken! :P
19:27 rangi          only if you think circulation.pl is working correctly
19:26 oleonard       Or am I missing something?
19:26 oleonard       I don't think a new system pref is necessary... just pass the logged-in branch and make it work the way circulation.pl renewals do.
19:22 rangi          where we do logic more like the above, except the last case is opac-renew
19:22 rangi          different to opac
19:21 rangi          yep
19:20 oleonard       When we renew from circulation.pl we assume the logged in branch gets credit don't we?
19:20 rangi          im not going to have time to work on it in the near future unfortunately
19:19 rangi          are the cases i can think of
19:19 rangi          it'll probably need a syspref, so the behaviour can be controlled, log renewal at patron homebranch, log renewal at item homebranch, log renewal at item current branch, log renewal at branch librarian has chosen when logging in
19:17 rangi          different logic to the opac case at least anyway
19:16 rangi          presumably in that case, it should be renewing as the branch the librarian has set themselves to
19:12 oleonard       :|
19:12 rangi          which is pretty stupid of it
19:12 rangi          yep
19:12 oleonard       rangi: But renew.pl doesn't pass the branchcode to AddRenewal
19:11 rangi          which does the updatestats call
19:11 rangi          because circ/renew.pl calls AddRenewal
19:11 rangi          its interesting
19:08 oleonard       That bug is going to make me have to correct my stats for 6 months to come.
19:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12066 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , New renew page in staff client doesn't record branch in statistics
19:07 oleonard       Dear someone smart: Please fix Bug 12066.
19:07 mtompset       particularly the last section of the first patch file.
19:07 rangi          morning
19:06 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11182 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, srdjan, Passed QA , Warnings in circulation
19:06 mtompset       bug 11182
19:04 mtompset       No... there was a bug, I remember seeing it fixed... trying to find it again.
19:04 oleonard       A fond memory I hope mtompset
19:02 mtompset       debarment? That reminds me of a patch...
19:02 oleonard       Thanks chris_n. The first time I tested it I couldn't reproduce the problem. I'll try again to make sure I wasn't testing incorrectly.
19:01 * chris_n      figured that might have been the reason for the question to being with :-)
19:01 chris_n        oleonard: I added that test procedure to the bug
18:48 oleonard       (members/mod_debarment.pl?borrowernumber=1234&borrower_debarment_id=1234&action=del)
18:48 pianohacker    oleonard: aw dammit now that I'm not on mobile I see what I did. Dangit.
18:47 oleonard       My session had timed out, clicked the "Remove restriction" link in the staff client and was redirected to the OPAC login page.
18:26 pianohacker    oleonard: Sure, I'll try to take a crack at it later today
18:25 alphaman       oleonard: wow, good catch. I didn't see that 'til you mentioned it. thanks for patching!
18:22 oleonard       Well, the effects are subtle if you're focused on the search results
18:21 mtompset       oleonard: Wow. That was a big oversight. :)
18:19 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12058 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , OverDrive search results page doesn't show cart, lists, or login links
18:19 oleonard       pianohacker: Could I get you to test Bug 12058?
18:18 mtompset       jcamins: Are you here? :)
18:18 mtompset       Greetings, #koha.
18:16 pianohacker    Yo
18:13 chris_n        back
17:38 chris_n        I'm off for a bit, but will check back
17:38 chris_n        I'm assuming that is what nicole did
17:37 chris_n        4. compare the two resulting pdfs
17:37 chris_n        3. export the batch twice; once using the layout with "split callnumber" selected (I failed to mention that in step 1); and the other with the layout without the splitting option
17:36 chris_n        2. create a small batch of labels
17:36 chris_n        1. in the label creator tool, create two layouts for BIB only, selecting just the callnumber field, and setting the font to some reasonable size
17:34 chris_n        what I did was this
17:32 oleonard       chris_n: I was just wondering what the test plan was for trying to reproduce that label bug
17:31 chris_n        oleonard: here for just a moment
17:21 oleonard       Hi self hosted librarian!
17:20 Edveal         Just showing #koha to a self hosted librarian
17:20 wahanui        hi, Edveal
17:20 Edveal         Hello
16:36 bag            heya druthb
16:27 druthb         hi, bag!
16:21 bag            magnuse  HI
16:21 wahanui        i think morning is a state of cat
16:21 bag            morning
15:50 * wajasu       still has unix servers running from the 80's and early 90's. amazed the boxes are still up.
15:30 oleonard       Oh great, renewals from circ/renew.pl are entered into the statistics table with no branch >:(
15:22 wahanui        magnuse is a Norwegian giant.
15:22 druthb         magnuse!
15:19 gmcharlt       :)
15:18 * oleonard     looks pointedly at magnuse
15:18 oleonard       The best bit: "Netcraft's April 2014 survey also found 50,000 websites which are hosted on even older Windows NT4 servers running Microsoft IIS 4.0, although three quarters of these sites are served from the same computer in Norway."
15:18 oleonard       Thousands of websites still hosted on Windows XP http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2014/04/08/thousands-of-websites-still-hosted-on-windows-xp.html
15:02 reiveune       bye
14:49 oleonard       chris_n still around?
14:47 gmcharlt       paul_p: neat!
14:46 paul_p         will be back on saturday morning
14:46 paul_p         hi oleonard, yes, still in moldova ;-)
14:45 oleonard       Hi paul_p, still traveling?
14:34 huginn         rhcl: The current temperature in Wyatt Park, St Joseph, Missouri is 16.3°C (9:34 AM CDT on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 45%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.78 in 1008 hPa (Rising).
14:34 rhcl           @wunder 64507
13:57 oleonard       ?
13:56 rhcl           This could be interesting. I wanna watch.
12:57 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12064 normal, P5 - low, ---, cnighswonger, In Discussion , labels that don't use the splitter print zeros
12:57 * chris_n      is looking for someone with a working 3.12 koha to confirm bug 12064
12:28 magnuse        hiya oleonard
12:25 oleonard       Hi #koha
10:46 vfernandes     i've compared two of mine Koha installation: one on my server which is working, another on client server which is not working
10:45 vfernandes     there is the need to open some specific port?
10:44 vfernandes     z3950 searching not working... what can I do?
09:54 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=12063 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Change date calculation for reserve expiration to skip all holidays
09:54 paxed          bug 12063
09:43 paxed          s/the //
09:43 paxed          and it would need the some extra test written for Calendar, but I have never done any of those.
09:42 atheia         Sounds good indeed — but may need a preference to switch it on and off?
09:37 magnuse        sounds like a good thing to me
09:36 paxed          i've got a patch that changes the date calculation for reserve expiration so it skips all holidays. would anyone else be interested in that?
09:21 vfernandes     hi :)
09:18 atheia         Morning magnuse.
09:17 magnuse        hiya matts and atheia
08:11 trongtritran91 please! help me
08:05 trongtritran91 help me
08:05 trongtritran91 but i type in search book: lap trinh c is no result .
08:05 trongtritran91 when i type in search box: Lập Trình C is result wel
08:04 trongtritran91 ex; my book name is: Lập Trình C
08:03 trongtritran91 result is not well
08:03 trongtritran91 oh, when i search in box of koha
08:00 magnuse        have fun dcook
07:58 dcook          Movie night w/ wife!
07:57 dcook          all right time to go!
07:46 * magnuse      wonders if that really is khall or just some sleepless ghost
07:26 paxed          why is RESERVESLIP printed for both transfers AND reserves? shouldn't there be different slips for each?
07:23 trongtritran91 helo everyone
07:21 trongtritran91 please help me
07:21 trongtritran91 alo
07:04 magnuse        well, it actually feels like spring now, but that temp is pretty normal
07:04 magnuse        dcook: nah, a little bit early
07:00 dcook          I suppose there is still snow back home in Canada...
07:00 dcook          magnuse: Isn't it supposed to be spring there?
07:00 dcook          salut alex_a
07:00 huginn         dcook: The current temperature in Sydney, New South Wales is 22.0°C (4:30 PM EST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 17.0°C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012 hPa (Steady).
07:00 dcook          @wunder sydney, australia
06:58 alex_a         bonjour
06:47 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (8:20 AM CEST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009 hPa (Steady).
06:47 magnuse        @wunder boo
06:47 huginn         magnuse: The current temperature in Realtor, CABRIES, France is 8.8°C (8:47 AM CEST on April 10, 2014). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 48%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Windchill: 9.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Rising).
06:47 magnuse        @wunder marseille
06:42 magnuse        bonjour reiveune
06:42 reiveune       bonjour dcook magnuse rangi :)
06:41 dcook          salut reiveune
06:41 reiveune       hello
06:33 marcelr        hi dcook
06:33 dcook          yo marcelr
06:31 marcelr        hi #koha
06:25 dcook          Well, local stuff first, then whatever small stuff that can go back upstream.
06:25 dcook          Yeah, given that 3.16's deadlines are coming up, I'm focusing more on small stuff.
06:24 dcook          I know I certainly appreciate you taking the time to make a patch :)
06:19 wajasu         i think folks will be focues on apr 24th release efforts, which it probably won't be apart of.
06:18 wajasu         i think i have another week so to work on it, but if i disappear for a few months i know i will forget all the search stuff i learned. so thats why i checked it in.
06:17 dcook          Alas, I don't have much time at the moment. I'm focusing more on local stuff at the moment, unfortunately.
06:15 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11232 new feature, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , Retrieve facets from Zebra
06:15 wajasu         dcook: don't know if you are in the position to run dev installs for that preliminary bug 11232 patch for zebra facets. its in assigned state.  i still need to add unimarc, but that can be a followup.
06:09 dcook          Yaz-client seemed all right, btw. I think it was zebraidx that was having no fun.
06:08 dcook          It just sounds weird now :p
06:08 * dcook        re-reads what he wrote
06:07 dcook          That's extra cool
06:07 dcook          ldd invokes the dynamic linker
06:06 dcook          Ah...
06:06 dcook          ldd seems neat though
06:06 dcook          But the old modules were getting in the way it would appear
06:06 dcook          But ld.so.conf should link lib64 in at runtime it seems
06:05 dcook          But rebuild_zebra.pl only points to lib
06:05 dcook          Much appreciated, wajasu. I already knew the lib64 modules were the ones I wanted
06:02 wajasu         ldd /usr/bin/yaz-client
06:02 eythian        wrongwindow.com ?
05:59 wajasu         man idzebra-config
05:59 * magnuse      waves
05:38 dcook          It looks like those are linked at run time so they're probably all right...just hitting the wrong one first like you say
05:35 wahanui        well, Interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
05:35 dcook          Interesting
05:35 eythian        /etc/$1
05:35 dcook          ld.so.conf?
05:24 eythian        ld.so.conf
05:24 eythian        hmm, it might not be in ld.whateveritis
05:14 dcook          I've only started noticing a lib64 on servers recently
05:13 dcook          "it" being rebuild_zebra.pl that is
05:12 dcook          e
05:12 * dcook        isn't sure why the older version was still around, of cours
05:12 dcook          But yeah, I think the silent part is that it was finding some libs from an older version
05:12 dcook          Well, it seems to only look in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib, so it wasn't finding it at all.
05:07 eythian        unless there's two different versions (different arches?) and it hits the wrong one first.
05:07 eythian        it _shouldn't_ matter
05:06 dcook          Silent badness
05:06 dcook          Also turns out that Zebra doesn't like it when a distro puts Zebra in lib64 rather than lib...all the badness O_O
05:05 dcook          No idea why the .yazclient.history file was bad. Looked perfectly fine.
04:59 * dcook        loves strace
04:59 dcook          And eventually I figured out it was due to a bad .yazclient.history file.
04:59 dcook          So I was getting yaz-client seg faults...
02:48 Sean           11 branches, and having print notices generated based on patron home library is causing big problems. Can these notices be based upon pickup location instead?
02:46 Sean           HI all, print hold notices question....
02:42 eythian        http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/skoda/auction-715522731.htm
02:39 gml            I was debugging zebraqueue_daemon.pl, but it's not returning any error (via the "warn lines" i can see in the console, neither in /var/log/messages)
02:36 gml            because in another zebra cases, like in http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipermail/zebralist/2006-November/001295.html (it's possible that this one isn't related with koha) this line appears as:   13:06:57-27/11 zebraidx(11624) [log] add grs.xml records/record_777776.xml 0
02:32 gml            **:**:**-09/04 zebrasrv(3435) [log] add grs.xml <no file> 0
02:32 gml            hello people, please a question more on here (i couldn't find this on google search): is the "<no file>" part in the following line from the zebrasrv log an error, or it's normal operation?
02:13 dcook          Btw, you can find out the memcached server port by consulting your koha-conf.xml
02:13 dcook          But I've had the caching thing happen to me quite a few times so hopefully that's it
02:13 dcook          The other idea might be that you're accidentally using the default framework instead of the FA framework ;).
02:12 nc-th          dcook: thanks a lot. I will try.
02:10 dcook          Where 11211 is the port for your memcached server
02:09 dcook          Try: echo 'flush_all' | nc localhost 11211
02:08 dcook          nc-th: You might need to clear your cache if you're using memcached
02:07 nc-th          Hi everyone! I am using Koha 3.08. I have a question on "Fast Add Framework". I left out tag 082 when I edited the framework. When I actually catalog, 082 keeps showing up. Anywhere else should I look into fixing this?
01:34 mtompset       flash player update.