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jcamins_away |
eythian: how do you deal with libanyevent-http-perl? |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: I think I made a package for it |
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* cait |
waves |
| 00:17 |
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eythian |
hi cait |
| 00:18 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: it's not on debian.k-c.org. |
| 00:19 |
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cait |
hi eythian |
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eythian |
squeeze-dev|main|i386: libanyevent-http-perl 2.14-1kohadev1 |
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eythian |
squeeze-dev|main|i386: libanyevent-processor-perl 0.003-1 |
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eythian |
cait: how's holiday? |
| 00:20 |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. |
| 00:20 |
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jcamins_away |
Why don't I see it? |
| 00:20 |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: is too! |
| 00:20 |
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cait |
good |
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rangi |
sup wizzyrea |
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eythian |
cait: just can't keep off IRC, huh? :) |
| 00:20 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: howday |
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eythian |
-a |
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wizzyrea |
not much, achievements unlocked: grocery shopping ;) |
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wizzyrea |
the market really *isn't* far. |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: figured it out. squeeze-dev vs. squeeze. |
| 00:21 |
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eythian |
ah yes |
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wizzyrea |
oh jcamins - I"m glad to see you |
| 00:22 |
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wizzyrea |
how is life in nyc? |
| 00:22 |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: no, it's handily close. Also the mediterranian one is even closer. |
| 00:22 |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* found that one the first day I think :) |
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wizzyrea |
plus I made them deliver the stuffs |
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wizzyrea |
:P |
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wizzyrea |
i had a boatload of stuff. |
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eythian |
heh |
| 00:23 |
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cait |
eythian: oh, iin reutlingen now, they will keep me away :) |
| 00:23 |
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jcamins_away |
Not bad. Very quiet, since subways are out. |
| 00:24 |
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cait |
we spent the evening with spaghetti, lemon cake and boardgames |
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eythian |
cait: sounds acceptable :) |
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jcamins_away |
libchi-driver-memcached-perl refuses to install. |
| 00:30 |
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eythian |
on what grounds? |
| 00:34 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: http://paste.koha-community.org/257 |
| 00:35 |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: squeeze-dev|main|amd64: libchi-perl 0.55-1 |
| 00:35 |
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eythian |
oh, right |
| 00:35 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, it's definitely there. |
| 00:35 |
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eythian |
there are more missing things |
| 00:36 |
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jcamins_away |
libdigest-jhash-perl |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
Package: libdigest-jhash-perl |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
Status: install ok installed |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
oh |
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eythian |
I apparently built it locally but didn't put it in the repo |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
I wonder why pdebuild didn't spot that. |
| 00:36 |
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eythian |
it's probably also in debian testing |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, it's in wheezy. |
| 00:37 |
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jcamins_away |
Also libhash-moreutils-perl. |
| 00:37 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 00:37 |
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eythian |
and try-tiny is an old version |
| 00:40 |
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jcamins_away |
This is going to make testing the release process problematic. |
| 00:40 |
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eythian |
I'm building them now |
| 00:41 |
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eythian |
Some time soon I need to revamp this process some, including putting all the packages in git. |
| 00:41 |
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eythian |
s/packages/modules/ |
| 00:48 |
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jenkins_koha |
Yippie, build fixed! |
| 00:48 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #924: FIXED in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/924/ |
| 00:48 |
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jenkins_koha |
koha: Bug 8978: Patron's dateexpiry erroneously updated when in UnwantedField |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8978 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patron's dateexpiry is erroneously updated if dateexpiry in UnWantedField syspref |
| 00:49 |
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rangi |
yippie ! |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: uploaded those three packages |
| 00:57 |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks! |
| 01:00 |
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jcamins_away |
libdigest-jhash-perl doesn't seem to be there yet? |
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eythian |
pool/main/libd/libdigest-jhash-perl/libdigest-jhash-perl_0.07-1_i386.deb |
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eythian |
12652 100% 47.89kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#23, to-check=59/345) |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
it definitely uploaded |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins_away |
It's not in the Packages file. |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
squeeze-dev|main|i386: libdigest-jhash-perl 0.07-1 |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins_away |
http://debian.koha-community.o[…]ry-amd64/Packages |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
ah, I bet it has C in it |
| 01:03 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, I have to use i386? |
| 01:03 |
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eythian |
so it compiled for i386 |
| 01:04 |
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eythian |
that probably wouldn't work |
| 01:04 |
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jcamins_away |
That's inconvenient. |
| 01:04 |
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eythian |
I think it's the first I've encountered with native code |
| 01:06 |
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eythian |
hmm, I don't know how to cross-compile it |
| 01:07 |
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jcamins_away |
I'll find a way to make it ignore the dependency. |
| 01:07 |
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eythian |
People have been cramming in the dependencies lately |
| 01:08 |
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jcamins_away |
The new dependencies are optional. |
| 01:08 |
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rangi |
what's that one even for? |
| 01:08 |
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jcamins_away |
rangi: it's an unneeded package for an unnecessary dependency of CHI, which is optional. |
| 01:09 |
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rangi |
YAY |
| 01:09 |
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jcamins_away |
Unfortunately, pbuilder translates this to ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED. |
| 01:09 |
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eythian |
It's not pbuilder's fault |
| 01:10 |
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eythian |
update-control doesn't split things into recommended/suggested/build depends |
| 01:10 |
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jcamins_away |
Ah. |
| 01:10 |
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eythian |
partially because Koha has no concept of build-depends just yet, but mostly because I haven't done it. |
| 01:10 |
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jcamins_away |
So it's that the packages aren't marking things as optional. |
| 01:10 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 01:10 |
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jcamins_away |
Okay. |
| 01:11 |
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jcamins_away |
Backup plan: I will mark CHI recommended manually. |
| 01:11 |
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eythian |
that'll probably do it. |
| 01:11 |
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jcamins_away |
Actually, plan C: let's just remove CHI. That's not what I want to test. |
| 01:12 |
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eythian |
hopefully CHI isn't required for any tests to pass... |
| 01:12 |
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jcamins_away |
Nope. |
| 01:12 |
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jcamins_away |
Entirely optional. |
| 01:13 |
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eythian |
There are some other "optional" dependencies that will cause test failures if they're not there. |
| 01:14 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, that's not one of them. I implemented the CHI so it would degrade gracefully on Squeeze. |
| 01:14 |
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eythian |
cool |
| 01:15 |
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jcamins_away |
Of course, it's a moot point for those of us who use Plack. |
| 01:19 |
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cait |
bye :) |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: could you tar up the debian/ directory for libdigest-jhash-perl? |
| 01:31 |
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eythian |
jcamins_away: OK |
| 01:31 |
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jcamins_away |
I'll build the amd64 packages. |
| 01:33 |
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eythian |
http://ubuntuone.com/1gwMSXT4q5SFZGc29ILYss <-- jcamins_away |
| 01:36 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: what command do you use for building it? |
| 01:36 |
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eythian |
debuild -uc -us |
| 01:37 |
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jcamins_away |
Well, I now have the amd64 packages. |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
cool |
| 01:38 |
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eythian |
if you could sent me all the _amd64 files, I could put them in the repo |
| 01:39 |
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jcamins_away |
Will do. |
| 01:41 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: http://kohadev.cpbibliography.[…]gest_amd64.tar.gz |
| 01:47 |
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eythian |
arg, I can't put that in the repo, as the .dsc files have different checksums in them |
| 01:47 |
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jcamins_away |
Hm. |
| 01:48 |
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eythian |
I assume they have to be built in one pass, or something like that. |
| 01:50 |
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jcamins_away |
Yeah, that makes sense. |
| 01:51 |
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eythian |
I was dreading the time we'd hit an XS module... |
| 01:52 |
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* jcamins_away |
could cross-compile for ARM... |
| 01:53 |
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eythian |
heh |
| 02:00 |
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jcamins_away |
eythian: can you add just the .build? |
| 02:00 |
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jcamins_away |
Or .changes, or .dsc, or something? |
| 02:00 |
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eythian |
the changes requires the .dsc |
| 02:02 |
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jcamins_away |
Oh. |
| 02:02 |
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jcamins_away |
Okay, figured it out. |
| 02:04 |
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jcamins_away |
Try again? |
| 02:04 |
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eythian |
OK |
| 02:05 |
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eythian |
same URL? |
| 02:05 |
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jcamins_away |
Yup. |
| 02:05 |
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eythian |
what did you change? |
| 02:06 |
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jcamins_away |
Removed the source from the build. |
| 02:06 |
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eythian |
Uploading to koha (via local to localhost): |
| 02:06 |
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eythian |
Successfully uploaded packages. |
| 02:06 |
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eythian |
Exporting indices... |
| 02:06 |
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eythian |
that looks better |
| 02:07 |
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eythian |
uploaded to the repo now |
| 02:07 |
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jcamins_away |
Yay! |
| 02:07 |
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jcamins_away |
Thanks. |
| 02:07 |
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eythian |
no problem |
| 02:35 |
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rangi |
@quote random |
| 02:35 |
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huginn |
rangi: Quote #136: "<sekjal> MARC. Must. Die!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:18 PM, May 26, 2011) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 03:06 |
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eythian |
wahanui: island time is http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8144 |
| 03:07 |
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eythian |
wahanui: are you there? |
| 03:07 |
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wahanui |
eythian: no idea |
| 03:07 |
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eythian |
wahanui: island time is at http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8144 |
| 03:07 |
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eythian |
wahanui: island time |
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wahanui |
i guess island time is http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8144 |
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* Oak |
waves |
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mtompset |
Greetings, Oak. |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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magnuse |
@later tell jcamins: you might want to have a look in your gmail :-) |
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huginn |
magnuse: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_master/badge/? |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]oha_3.8.x/badge/? |
| 07:33 |
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rangi |
you can get a little badge for any job |
| 07:42 |
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mtj |
awww, very cool |
| 07:43 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.10.x |
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magnuse |
build #1! |
| 07:52 |
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rangi |
yep just set it up |
| 07:52 |
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magnuse |
very cool! |
| 07:53 |
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magnuse |
and of course that means jcamins_away will start pushing new features to master? |
| 07:53 |
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cjh |
awesome! |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
well, not yet |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
bug fixes still |
| 07:53 |
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rangi |
(see his email) |
| 07:54 |
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magnuse |
ah, ok |
| 07:54 |
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rangi |
but he pushed some of those to master already today |
| 07:55 |
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magnuse |
jcamins++ |
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* magnuse |
is reminded to get on with the translations for 3.10 |
| 07:59 |
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rangi |
yep :) |
| 07:59 |
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rangi |
not long now |
| 08:01 |
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magnuse |
too bad fredericd is having some kind og trouble with the prefs .po file for nb-NO |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #1: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.10.x/1/ |
| 08:28 |
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magnuse |
w00t - getting off to a good start :-) |
| 08:28 |
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rangi |
bugzilla will be down for a bit, security upgrades |
| 08:54 |
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mtj |
rangi, thanx - wanna ping #koha when bugz is back up… |
| 08:55 |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7339] Help System in IE7-8 Does Not Load With 500 Error <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7339> / [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6536> / [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML |
| 08:55 |
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rangi |
its back |
| 09:01 |
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magnuse |
rangi++ |
| 09:01 |
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mtj |
ta chris |
| 09:01 |
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magnuse |
https://catalyst.library.jhu.e[…]atalog/bib_408387 - click on "librarian view" for a bit of lol :-) |
| 09:02 |
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rangi |
heh |
| 09:02 |
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magnuse |
see, you gotta be clever to be a librarian :-) |
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| 10:06 |
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mib_zf15r8 |
can anyone help a beginner koha and linux user solve the following error when trying to catalog books? Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2438. |
| 10:08 |
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mtj |
mib_zf15r8, what version of koha ? |
| 10:09 |
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mib_zf15r8 |
3.8 |
| 10:09 |
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mtj |
and… are you cut/pasting text into the editor, or not? |
| 10:09 |
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mib_zf15r8 |
not |
| 10:10 |
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mib_zf15r8 |
I did however remove a lot of the fields we don't use |
| 10:10 |
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mtj |
does your problem exist using a fresh/clean database? |
| 10:10 |
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mtj |
ok, so thats probably cauased your problem |
| 10:11 |
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mtj |
if you load your database backup, from before that - does it fix your problem? |
| 10:11 |
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mib_zf15r8 |
no |
| 10:12 |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #221 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 10:13 |
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mtj |
well, my best advice is to setup a test koha with a fresh database, and test your problem with that |
| 10:13 |
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mib_zf15r8 |
ok, I will try that |
| 10:14 |
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mtj |
my hunch is you've done some mods to the bib frameworks, thats made koha unhappy |
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mtj |
meh, too slow :/ |
| 10:16 |
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mtj |
heya cait :) |
| 10:16 |
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cait |
hi mtj :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 10:28 |
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mtompset |
davidnind++ |
| 10:29 |
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mtompset |
Sorry, that karma update was seriously delayed, davidnind. :) |
| 10:29 |
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davidnind |
? |
| 10:29 |
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mtompset |
I saw some of your replies to various problems in the list, and thought you did a good job pointing people to useful resources which may contain their answer. |
| 10:30 |
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mtompset |
@karma davidnind |
| 10:30 |
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huginn |
mtompset: Karma for "davidnind" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9. |
| 10:32 |
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davidnind |
thanks - haven't been too active lately as work has been busy; only try to answer some of the questions where I can help a little - still lots to learn! |
| 10:33 |
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mtompset |
You and me both. :) |
| 10:34 |
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mtompset |
Learning is a life long process and it never stops. I just wish it slowed down sometimes. :) |
| 10:35 |
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davidnind |
so true - especially in the free software world |
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new |
hello |
| 10:50 |
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new |
Can you tell the steps of update koha from 3.4.1 to 3.4.8? |
| 10:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.8.x build #221: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_3.8.x/221/ |
| 10:52 |
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jenkins_koha |
Chris Cormack: Bug 8987 : JS error |
| 10:52 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8987 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, "New report button" broken |
| 10:53 |
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new |
Are these the same just like when you install koha (perl Makefile.pl -> make -> test make -> sudo make install)? |
| 10:53 |
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mtompset |
new: The current version is 3.8.6 |
| 10:53 |
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mtompset |
What operating system are you using? |
| 10:53 |
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new |
I know that |
| 10:53 |
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new |
debian |
| 10:54 |
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mtompset |
I would suggest you do a packages install, and transplant your data. |
| 10:54 |
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mtompset |
Let me see if I can find that URL to help you. |
| 10:54 |
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new |
because I am newbie, I don't know exactly the way |
| 10:56 |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 10:57 |
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mtompset |
yes, but if you succeeded at a tarball install (which is what the steps you gave are), then you should be able to follow these instructions. |
| 10:58 |
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mtompset |
imagine a future where you only have to type two, maybe three, commands to upgrade. |
| 10:58 |
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mtompset |
Right now, you are in upgrade purgatory. |
| 10:59 |
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mtompset |
(sorry if the religious metaphor is offensive) |
| 11:00 |
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mtompset |
That is, you have to do "a lot" to upgrade. |
| 11:00 |
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new |
the problem is not the number of commands but a guide for it. If it was somewhere writen, I think it will be good even though for someone who does not know what to do |
| 11:00 |
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new |
for any eidtion |
| 11:00 |
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mtompset |
And that is why I gave you the link. |
| 11:00 |
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mtompset |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]e_Debian_packages |
| 11:00 |
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mtompset |
This should work well for your case. |
| 11:01 |
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mtompset |
Or any case of 3.4.x and higher. |
| 11:01 |
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new |
what is the different of koha - common and koha - 3.* versions? |
| 11:02 |
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mtompset |
Ignore koha, use koha-common. |
| 11:02 |
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mtompset |
Prior to 3.4.x, packages were experimental. |
| 11:03 |
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mtompset |
however, as of 3.4.x, packages became mainstream. |
| 11:04 |
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mtompset |
the beauty of packages is all you have to type is: "sudo apt-get install koha-common" and your install is 90% done without the make, make test, make install type steps. |
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mtompset |
(well 90% is not a precise number, but it is meant to show how much easier it is) |
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mtompset |
upgrading once you have package installations is very easy. |
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mtompset |
sudo apt-get update |
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mtompset |
sudo apt-get upgrade koha-common |
| 11:05 |
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mtompset |
And sometimes, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade koha-common |
| 11:05 |
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mtompset |
because the dependencies of Koha has increased. |
| 11:06 |
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mtompset |
as you can see... typing those three commands is very simple. |
| 11:06 |
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mtompset |
no answering questions, which you hope you answered correctly. |
| 11:06 |
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mtompset |
no long builds, test, and installs. |
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new |
the above link will work and for koha 3.8? |
| 11:06 |
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mtompset |
Yes! |
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new |
ok. |
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new |
One last question, I think |
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new |
doing make, make test, make install will work also doing some of the guide you provided to me? |
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mtj |
new: the short answer is 'no' |
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mtompset |
Sorry, got distracted. No. that is the old way of installing. We are recommending you do the new way which is far easier on a forward basis. |
| 11:13 |
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mtj |
anyone have any ideas on this problem ? -> http://lists.koha-community.or[…]ember/038362.html |
| 11:13 |
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new |
<mtj>: new: the short answer is 'no' : if you advance the answer, will it be like you install from the beginning koha and then start configuring the rest as is written in manual and then restore database? |
| 11:14 |
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mtompset |
basically, yes. |
| 11:14 |
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mtompset |
If I understood what you said correctly. |
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mtompset |
Basically, you back up your DB, install the packages, and then once you have created the instance, you put your data into the blank instance you created. |
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mtompset |
You then use the staff client to upgrade your database. |
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mtompset |
I may have glossed over some steps, but that is the general gist of it. |
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new |
ok. I will try it both ways |
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mtompset |
only do that in a test environment and make sure you have a backup! |
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mtompset |
It is not recommended to do it both ways in general on the same machine. |
| 11:25 |
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mtompset |
mtj, I had noticed that the redefined messages had gotten noisier lately. |
| 11:26 |
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mtompset |
But that's a bizarre thing... I can't seem to figure out how CanBookBeReserved is redefined. I'm still looking though. |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... a circular use? |
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mtj |
yeah , that was my hunch |
| 11:30 |
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mtompset |
C4::Members uses C4::Reserves. |
| 11:30 |
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mtompset |
C4::Reserves uses C4::Members. |
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mtompset |
I think C4::Biblio probably had that problem, but someone fixed it with a require not a use, and only in a limited section. That's my guess. |
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mtj |
i must add a warnings.t test to my TODO list - it would be good to be able to track that stat |
| 11:32 |
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mtompset |
Yes, because if we have our libraries right, we should not have that scenario, in my opinion. |
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mtj |
i dunno whats causing it, but its probably a good thing to fix |
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mtj |
… it looks like something thats a little problem now, that could become a big problem with plack |
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mtj |
mtompset, thanx for taking a looky too :) |
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mtompset |
Not a problem. Need to feel mildly useful in the midst of this transitioning back to Canada. |
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mtj |
how many sleepzzZ till ? |
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mtompset |
My sleeps are variable now. I'm trying to shift my sleeping pattern. |
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mtompset |
I leave on the 7th... it's the 1st now... |
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mtompset |
mtj, have you ever been involved in data migration projects? |
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mtompset |
(for koha) |
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mtj |
yeah, more than i can remember |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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mtompset |
Greetings, oleonard. |
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mtompset |
Greetings, cait. |
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jcamins_away |
magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
huh? |
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cait |
magnuse++ |
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magnuse |
huh?? |
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cait |
don't know why, but i am sure there is a good reason |
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cait |
jcamins_away: have a minute? |
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jcamins |
Sure. |
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jcamins |
magnuse: NORMARC records |
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magnuse |
ah, hope they are usable |
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magnuse |
most of them probably come from BIBSYS |
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* jcamins |
is sure they will be. |
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jcamins |
They're just for testing the NORMARC DOM configuration. |
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magnuse |
yay! |
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jcamins |
nengard: I'm looking at bug 8931. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , submit buttons have blue background |
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nengard |
k |
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jcamins |
And I can't figure out what it's supposed to do. |
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nengard |
wasn't that pushed already |
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jcamins |
Nope. |
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jcamins |
At least, I don't think so. |
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nengard |
hang on |
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jcamins |
If it was, someone forgot to update the bug. |
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nengard |
k it wasn't |
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nengard |
if you look at my screenshot the background on submit buttons is blue - it should be transparent |
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nengard |
it's a very tiny style thing |
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nengard |
but it bugs me |
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oleonard |
And it's pretty subtle, depending on your display and angle of view |
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nengard |
yup |
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jcamins |
I'm looking at the screenshot, and I don't see any blue. |
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oleonard |
it's even harder to see in the screenshot because there's not a lot of white background for contrast |
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jcamins |
Oh, I see. |
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* oleonard |
assures jcamins we're not messing with him |
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jcamins |
It's not the *button* that has a blue background. |
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jcamins |
It's the space *around* the button. |
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drojf |
hi #koha |
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marcelr |
hi koha |
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marcelr |
mtj around> |
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marcelr |
? |
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jcamins |
cait: drojf: anyone who does translation: a string changing lines will not effect the translation process, right? |
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marcelr |
hi jcamins |
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jcamins |
So if we have the string "The catalog" on line 1 of a template, and it moves to line 2 of that template, it will still get translated to "Das Katalog" or whatever that would be in German? |
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jcamins |
Good morning, marcelr. |
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cait |
jcamins: I have wondered about that in the past, I am not usre |
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cait |
I think a test run of the translation update script is the best way to tell |
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marcelr |
hi; i think it is not a problem |
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cait |
german is completed if you wanted to test |
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marcelr |
it translates all occurrences |
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jcamins |
It's going to be hard to tell... |
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cait |
jcamins: why? |
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marcelr |
wherever they are in the template file |
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cait |
marcelr: but the po files also list where something was found |
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marcelr |
mtj are you still here? |
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cait |
I am not sure when the script marks something fuzzy |
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cait |
but you are probably right, if moving would break it, there would be lots more to retranslate |
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jcamins |
cait: because in order to change the lines in the template, I'm going to have to change the template, meaning that the diff will list those lines anyway. |
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jcamins |
Oh, there we go. |
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jcamins |
It does not seem to impact the translation. |
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cait |
jcamins: ? |
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jcamins |
Oh, except that these might already *be* fuzzy. I'll check. |
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jcamins |
They are not, and do not become fuzzy. |
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jcamins |
Bug 7455 is suitable for 3.10. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field |
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cait |
:) |
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druthb |
hi. :) |
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druthb |
wahanui: druthb? |
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wahanui |
Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. |
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druthb |
lulz |
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jcamins |
Route restart. |
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jcamins |
Back in a few. |
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jcamins_ |
Hm. |
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gmcharlt |
good morning |
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* druthb |
waves to gmcharlt. |
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* gmcharlt |
waves back |
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* cait |
waves to gmcharlt and druthb :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, everyone. I should probably go, early meeting tomorrow. Sorry I didn't greet everyone earlier... Looking at a data import issue. :) |
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mtompset |
It's amazing the various formats people use. |
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mtompset |
I just got sent a file with mixed DOS/Unix end of lines, in a text file that is basically standard format markers (SFM) if anyone is familiar with that. |
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mtompset |
At least it should be easy enough to convert. |
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* mtompset |
waves goodbye to druthb, drojf, gmcharlt, cait, cait-m, jcamins, oleonard, nengard, etc. |
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mtompset |
Have a good day (24 hour period). |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7455' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f705a02310c93e500> / Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 3) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0b1aa5ba2de4b94c3> / Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 2) <http://git.koha-com |
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* oleonard |
is glad to see jcamins flexing those RM muscles |
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* jcamins |
was very excited to see the messages on koha-commits for a moment, before he realized that he was the one who was pushing code. |
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cait |
lol |
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cait |
jcamins++ |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
I will try out my qam muscles when back from the family vacation |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #925 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) |
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jcamins |
Sourdough griddle cakes. What will he think of next? |
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jcamins |
Mmm. Sourdough. |
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cait |
heh |
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chris_n |
did someone mention cake? |
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oleonard |
Sorry chris_n, the cake was a lie. |
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chris_n |
:'( |
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jcamins |
chris_n: sourdough griddle cakes. |
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jcamins |
Seems to me you should have really good sourdough. |
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chris_n |
mmmm |
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oleonard |
What's the difference between a griddle cake and a pancake? |
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druthb |
...and a flapjack? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: I use griddle cake to refer to a pancake made using dough instead of batter. |
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oleonard |
What is this wizardry? |
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druthb |
ah-hah! |
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jcamins |
When I hear "pancake," I think of wimpy little things made with lots of milk and eggs, and leavened using baking powder, or possibly baking soda. |
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jcamins |
Like a leavened crepe, almost. |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #925: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/925/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8846: Exploded Terms test sneakily uses database |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8846 conflict resolution: correct path |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 8636 - add Moose dependency to the dependencies |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 8931 - submit buttons have blue background |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8846 blocker, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , t/SuggestionEngine_ExplodedTerms.t sneakily uses database |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up) |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 2) |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 3) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 critical, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , submit buttons have blue background |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field |
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oleonard |
Now Bug 7932 is in a race with Bug 8952 to see who gets to conflict with whom |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7932 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , twitter share doesn't work with socialnetworks |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add http:// to url in social media links on opac-detail |
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oleonard |
For Bug 8952 to get tested properly requires Syndetics and LibraryThing :| |
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oleonard |
Or, we could say "look good to me" and hope it doesn't break Syndetics and LibraryThing |
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* druthb |
gives oleonard the ebil eye. |
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* oleonard |
invites druthb to snag some of her customers' credentials and test :P |
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druthb |
I think our new QAM would give you the stink-eye over that "let it ride" idea, too. |
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jcamins |
Actually, I think I may have a syndetics account to test with. Lemme check. |
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jcamins |
Hmmm... |
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jcamins |
doesn't look like it. |
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jcamins |
Okay, this is confusing. |
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jcamins |
Why isn't the syspref cache getting updated? |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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jcamins |
I see. |
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jcamins |
Because I use a worker-style handler. |
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tcohen |
good evening #koha |
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rangi |
Morning |
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wahanui |
i guess Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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rangi |
@later tell wizzyrea don't forget beer o'clock today at 4 |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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bag |
heya rangi and oleonard |
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rangi |
Does nate have power now? |
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tcohen |
i want beer at 4 o'clock too! |
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rangi |
Hehe |
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* oleonard |
has parent-teacher conferences at 4, would be better with beer |
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chris_n |
interesting discussion on how to register cows with tin cans at the ends of a string with one's asterisk server over on #asterisk |
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jcamins |
chris_n: Cows as in... four-legged bovines that go "moo"? |
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chris_n |
jcamins: exactly the same; it seems ipv6 was the solution |
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chris_n |
now the cows can call home rather than coming home |
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jcamins |
chris_n: lol |
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oleonard |
Geez, Firefox has crashed on me 3 times today. What gives? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: it's insulted that you used IE to test something. |
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oleonard |
Hi wizzyrea |
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rangi |
mtj: can you send me you ssh pub key please |
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wizzyrea |
hey oleonard |
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wahanui |
oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer |
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jcamins |
Who was arensb? |
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rangi |
andrew arensberger |
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oleonard |
Is he in trouble? |
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jcamins |
oleonard: no, I was wondering who wrote the comment about autoload in C4::Context. |
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jcamins |
Fun fact: You can do "C4::Context->whateveryoupleaseanddamnthetorpedosfullspeedahead()" and Perl won't complain. |
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rangi |
morning trea |
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rangi |
jcamins: cos we told it not to |
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jcamins |
rangi: yeah. I reported a bug. |
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rangi |
class::accessor would fix it :) or moo :) |
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jcamins |
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! |
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* jcamins |
just looked to see if we were using AUTOLOAD anywhere else. |
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jcamins |
You may not be surprised to know that we are. |
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jcamins |
Especially after my screech of horrified disbelief. |
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jcamins |
... are you kidding me? We used AUTOLOAD as an exact alternative to Class::Accessor? |
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rangi |
to be fair |
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rangi |
it predates class::accesor |
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jcamins |
The code doesn't. |
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rangi |
but yeah, pretty much |
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rangi |
no, but AUTOLOAD does |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
| 19:20 |
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jcamins |
And perhaps with C4::Context that was a reasonable excuse. |
| 19:20 |
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jcamins |
C4::Context does date back a decade. |
| 19:20 |
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jcamins |
C4::Category dates back 3 years. |
| 19:21 |
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rangi |
yep, context is valid .. anything newish yeah, not so much |
| 19:21 |
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rangi |
however ppl may not have known about it |
| 19:21 |
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rangi |
fix them in the move to Koha |
| 19:21 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
| 19:22 |
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rangi |
actually moo would be a great one to use for context |
| 19:23 |
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rangi |
would simplify the whole thing |
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rangi |
heya khall and NateC |
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khall |
yo |
| 19:26 |
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rangi |
yay http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ols.git;a=summary |
| 19:26 |
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khall |
sweet! |
| 19:26 |
|
* khall |
is a 90's kid |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #2 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
| 19:27 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, exciting! |
| 19:27 |
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jcamins |
Jenkins is now watching 3.10.x. |
| 19:28 |
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rangi |
yep did that last night |
| 19:28 |
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rangi |
also check this out |
| 19:28 |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ha_3.10.x/badge/? |
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rangi |
you can get a little badge, for any branch |
| 19:29 |
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jcamins |
Ooh, we should put that on the dashboard. |
| 19:29 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 19:30 |
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rangi |
and on koha-community.org itself |
| 19:30 |
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rangi |
and the wiki |
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wahanui |
the wiki is kind of an expert http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 19:30 |
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rangi |
:) |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
ill now set up stats for 3.10.x too |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
oh no |
| 19:31 |
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cait |
what am I missing now? |
| 19:31 |
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rangi |
hmm? |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
you waited until I was away and then started a new branch and some badge things! |
| 19:32 |
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cait |
:) |
| 19:32 |
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rangi |
heh |
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jcamins |
Oh. I already hit enhancements. |
| 19:38 |
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paul_p |
hello #koha |
| 19:38 |
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tcohen |
hi paul_p |
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rangi |
hi paul_p |
| 19:39 |
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rangi |
http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0.x/activity.html |
| 19:39 |
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paul_p |
closed day today. /me feel like if it was saturday... |
| 19:40 |
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jcamins |
paul_p: none of the patches I pushed had string changes. |
| 19:40 |
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cait |
paul_p: I agree :) |
| 19:41 |
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paul_p |
jcamins yep, I started checking, testing & merging. Feel free to push anything that can, i'll take care of avoiding the string-change ones |
| 19:41 |
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rangi |
the way i do rmaint paul_p (which you are doing for the next few weeks :)) i tag master locally with where i got up to |
| 19:41 |
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rangi |
then i look at the new commits on it |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
and look at the bugs, and then cherry-pick if needed |
| 19:42 |
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jcamins |
I'm focusing on the 3.10 commits to start with, while I get into the swing of things. |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
then push, and tag locally again |
| 19:42 |
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rangi |
that way i know where i got up to |
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paul_p |
rangi = git tag "i-am-here", sounds a good plan. why do you "move" the tag ? drop / recreate ? |
| 19:43 |
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rangi |
now i just do a new one |
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rangi |
with the date |
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rangi |
eg i have a tag of 2012-10-31 |
| 19:44 |
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rangi |
which was the last time i checked master |
| 19:44 |
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rangi |
i could delete and retag |
| 19:44 |
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rangi |
but im lazy and just tag with the date |
| 19:45 |
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paul_p |
rangi = it mean you create the tag BEFORE you fetch and check/merge ? |
| 19:45 |
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rangi |
i create it after ive pushed |
| 19:45 |
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jcamins |
I could've sworn I signed off on bug 8804. |
| 19:45 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm |
| 19:45 |
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rangi |
i do a pull of master |
| 19:46 |
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rangi |
then i look for everything added since my last tag |
| 19:46 |
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oleonard |
jcamins: A revision was requested |
| 19:46 |
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rangi |
work my way through them, then push, and tag the commit i got up to |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
oleonard: right, I signed off on the revised patch. |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
I thought. |
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* jcamins |
checks. |
| 19:46 |
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jcamins |
Yup. |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
Never attached. |
| 19:47 |
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libsysguy |
@seen oleonard |
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huginn |
libsysguy: oleonard was last seen in #koha 58 seconds ago: <oleonard> jcamins: A revision was requested |
| 19:47 |
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libsysguy |
oh doh |
| 19:47 |
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paul_p |
rangi = OK, got it |
| 19:47 |
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libsysguy |
I guess I should have read back |
| 19:47 |
|
* oleonard |
waves his arms and jumps up and down |
| 19:47 |
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rangi |
paul_p: it works for me, you might have a better way of doing it |
| 19:47 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: that was pretty awesome, I have to tell you. |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
hi oleonard? |
| 19:47 |
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rangi |
but i like being able to look between tags, i can then see ohh on the 31st i pushed 7 things |
| 19:47 |
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cait |
ah, only half-here |
| 19:48 |
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rangi |
ok, meeting time |
| 19:48 |
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wahanui |
meeting time is probably always going to favour one section of the globe |
| 19:48 |
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rangi |
bbl |
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oleonard |
paul_p: Is it likely that Biblibre will ever re-work the jEditable version of smart-rules.pl for master? |
| 19:50 |
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paul_p |
oleonard = I don't think so (have you seen the announcement that hdl is leaving ? he was the author) |
| 19:51 |
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oleonard |
Okay thanks. And yes, I did see the announcement |
| 19:51 |
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* oleonard |
is trying to imagine template-based ways to make that interface more manageable. |
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paul_p |
oleonard = does your question imply that you'll work on this ? |
| 19:53 |
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oleonard |
If there is a way to improve the interface without digging into the code I would choose it :) |
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wizzyrea |
ohh hdl is leaving? I will miss him |
| 19:54 |
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xmacex |
Hola |
| 19:54 |
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wizzyrea |
oh hey! |
| 19:54 |
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xmacex |
hi everyone |
| 19:55 |
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paul_p |
time for dinner ;-) |
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paul_p |
wizzyrea = http://www.biblibre.com/en/blo[…]another-next-step |
| 19:55 |
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libsysguy |
oleonard were you recently talking about messing with addbiblio.tt |
| 19:55 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: bug 7455 |
| 19:55 |
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wahanui |
it has been said that bug 7455 is suitable for 3.10. |
| 19:55 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field |
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oleonard |
libsysguy: I was not |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: that's probably the patch you were thinking of. |
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libsysguy |
ahh |
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xmacex |
i came to maybe have a little chat about Koha and SRU |
| 19:56 |
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oleonard |
libsysguy: I may have been talking about NOT messing with addbiblio.tt ;) |
| 19:56 |
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libsysguy |
jcamins how do you always come up with the longest patches |
| 19:57 |
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libsysguy |
heh I don't blame you |
| 19:57 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: _you_ are the one who wanted to look at addbiblio. |
| 19:57 |
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libsysguy |
I am working on implementing jquery sortable |
| 19:57 |
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jcamins |
xmacex: are you having issues with it? |
| 19:57 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: not with the existing javascript, please, not the existing javascript. |
| 19:57 |
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libsysguy |
oh yes I killed the arrow javascript |
| 19:57 |
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jcamins |
Yes!!! |
| 19:57 |
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xmacex |
i'm working on a little project/contract, and i believe i would like to have an SRU server, serving MarcXML for a while |
| 19:57 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy++ |
| 19:58 |
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xmacex |
i looked at some options, and i reckoned maybe i'll just install Koha and have it serve the records in SRU |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins |
xmacex: that makes sense to me. :) |
| 19:58 |
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libsysguy |
it was easy, C-space *hightlight all the old code* C-w |
| 19:58 |
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libsysguy |
i just need to make it look purty now |
| 19:58 |
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jcamins |
libsysguy: you switched windows? :P |
| 19:59 |
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xmacex |
what we are doing is extracting our records from our Real System (Axiell Aurora), doing little management operations (normalizing values, deduplication, analysis etc.), and then try to sneak them back into our Real System |
| 19:59 |
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libsysguy |
emacs dude, get with a real text editor |
| 19:59 |
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libsysguy |
:p |
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xmacex |
when i say Real System, yes that's with some sarcasm indeed |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins |
xmacex: yes, I gathered. ;) |
| 20:00 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: cool, just wanted to make that clear ;) |
| 20:00 |
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jcamins |
You were looking at switching to Koha then got saddled by the government with something proprietary, weren't you? |
| 20:00 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: well... |
| 20:01 |
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oleonard |
Bye #koha |
| 20:01 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: if i'd be running the show here in Finland, everyone would be running Koha, that's for sure |
| 20:01 |
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jcamins |
xmacex: of course! :) |
| 20:02 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: but now i'm just helping this one consortia with their data quality, and i want to be agnostic to the system they are using (thus: SRU because i believe we can do it without contacting the vendor at all) |
| 20:03 |
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xmacex |
so, everyone running their Koha's with beautiful SRU endpoints, right? |
| 20:03 |
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jcamins |
You could certainly use Koha for that, but... wouldn't Z39.50 make a little more sense? |
| 20:03 |
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xmacex |
doesn't look too bad at all |
| 20:03 |
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* jcamins |
is very much pro-SRU, but if you're doing MARC-intensive manipulation for data pulled out of a MARC-based ILS, Z39.50 is likely to be more compatible, I would think. |
| 20:04 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: yeah bringing all of Koha in will bring some overhead to it. If you have a favourite SRU server that does only that, i'd love the hear what's your favourite |
| 20:04 |
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jcamins |
Zebra does all the SRU stuff directly, I think. |
| 20:04 |
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xmacex |
yeah this stuff is all MARC21 all the way |
| 20:05 |
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jcamins |
What I'd probably do is just use Zebra. |
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xmacex |
i will index all the stuff into Solr (using VuFind's SolrMarc setup for the indexing) to help in analysis work etc., and then i just want the manipulated records back into the Real System somehow |
| 20:06 |
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xmacex |
hmm Zebra is an option for sure |
| 20:06 |
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rangi |
if you are using koha you are using zebra anyway |
| 20:06 |
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xmacex |
i haven't looked at it at this point (i started working today) |
| 20:06 |
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jcamins |
Ultimately, that's all you're using for SRU. |
| 20:06 |
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* rangi |
is still waiting for people to arrive for his meeting |
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xmacex |
jcamins: is Zebra a hassle to set up on it's own? |
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* xmacex |
looks up Zebra documentation |
| 20:08 |
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jcamins |
xmacex: it depends. |
| 20:08 |
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jcamins |
My recommendation: cheat. |
| 20:08 |
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jcamins |
Clone Koha. |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins |
Run `t/db_dependent/zebra_config.pl /home/zebra` |
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xmacex |
i'm all for cheating :D |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins |
Use the now-configured Zebra installation in /home/zebra. |
| 20:09 |
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jcamins |
It'll be all set up for MARC21. |
| 20:10 |
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jcamins |
For indexing you will need to run the commands manually, but that's doable. |
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jenkins_koha |
jcamins: Correct a typo in docs/history.txt and add 3.6.x releases |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #3 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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xmacex |
i thought about doing about the same with VuFind and piggyback on it's configuration of Solr, ready for MARC21, but SRU on top of Solr needs to be done |
| 20:11 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: cool |
| 20:11 |
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xmacex |
that sounds like a good path to take |
| 20:11 |
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jcamins |
That doesn't install the SRU stuff, but that'd be pretty easy. |
| 20:12 |
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xmacex |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/ko[…]anual/a10341.html |
| 20:13 |
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jcamins |
Exactly. |
| 20:13 |
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xmacex |
for Koha^ |
| 20:13 |
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xmacex |
http://www.indexdata.com/zebra[…]-yazfrontend.html |
| 20:13 |
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xmacex |
for naked Zebra^ |
| 20:13 |
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jcamins |
It's just a matter of copy-and-paste, and setting the URLs to match what you want. |
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xmacex |
you know... i wouldn't be even thinking about any of this without all this lovely infrastructure in place. It's like magic |
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xmacex |
i just need to make sure in can export nice and beautiful MarcXML from that SRU |
| 20:18 |
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jcamins |
xmacex: "beautiful" is in the eye of the beholder. |
| 20:18 |
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xmacex |
lol yeah |
| 20:18 |
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jcamins |
And no one has yet beheld MarcXML and said "Gee, that was gorgeous." |
| 20:18 |
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xmacex |
50 years of this beauty now |
| 20:19 |
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jcamins |
But the MARCXML you get from the Zebra SRU server looks just the same as the MARCXML from anything else. |
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xmacex |
jcamins: and when importing records into Zebra, they are kept as they are, and not get new ID:s (001) or anything like that |
| 20:20 |
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xmacex |
i will need to take a look at those import processes to make sure |
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xmacex |
hmm anyone got experience running an SRU interface to Solr (instead of Zebra?) |
| 20:25 |
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jcamins |
xmacex: oh, good point. |
| 20:25 |
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jcamins |
You will need to edit the Zebra indexing configuration to use the 001 as the ID. |
| 20:26 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: i want to help the original database, not introduce a gazillion of duplicates |
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xmacex |
tomorrow i will see how the Real System behaves when one does copy-cataloguing. If it will generate it's own IDs, it means trouble |
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jcamins |
xmacex: yeah. That's why you need to change the configuration to use the same ID that your current system does. |
| 20:27 |
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xmacex |
and i need to override that behavious |
| 20:27 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: yeah |
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jcamins |
Zebra will not modify your records in any way. |
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xmacex |
jcamins: except assign new IDs, right? |
| 20:28 |
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jcamins |
No. |
| 20:28 |
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jcamins |
If your records don't have IDs, they will be unfindable. |
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jcamins |
The good point was not that Zebra will change the records, but that the default configuration uses 999 for the unique ID. |
| 20:29 |
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xmacex |
our data should have 001 as ID (i will have to check each record though) |
| 20:29 |
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xmacex |
jcamins: aha, ok |
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xmacex |
jcamins: we use 001 here |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #3: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.10.x/3/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Correct a typo in docs/history.txt and add 3.6.x releases |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 8707 - tags always say approved |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8707 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , tags always say approved |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #926 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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jcamins |
Hm. Build #927 is going to fail. |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]06ee0e768d3c5c12b> |
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eythian |
hi |
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eythian |
http://i.imgur.com/2OyTN.jpg |
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jcamins |
eythian: ummm... |
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eythian |
jcamins: exactly |
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jenkins_koha |
oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_3.10.x build #4: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ob/Koha_3.10.x/4/ |
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jenkins_koha |
* mjr: Bug 8982 make koha-create accept --database option |
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jenkins_koha |
* koha: Bug 8978: Patron's dateexpiry erroneously updated when in UnwantedField |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8846: Exploded Terms test sneakily uses database |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8982 minor, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , koha-create rejects --database option |
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jenkins_koha |
* jcamins: Bug 8846 conflict resolution: correct path |
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jenkins_koha |
* robin: Bug 8636 - add Moose dependency to the dependencies |
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jenkins_koha |
* oleonard: Bug 8931 - submit buttons have blue background |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build #5 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8978 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patron's dateexpiry is erroneously updated if dateexpiry in UnWantedField syspref |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8846 blocker, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , t/SuggestionEngine_ExplodedTerms.t sneakily uses database |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8636 critical, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer |
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Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , submit buttons have blue background |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field |
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* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up) |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 2) |
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jenkins_koha |
* fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 3) |
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* oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm |
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