Time Nick Message 23:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 23:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field 23:48 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 23:48 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 3) 23:48 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 2) 23:48 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up) 23:48 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field 23:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #5: SUCCESS in 42 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/5/ 23:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , submit buttons have blue background 23:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8636 critical, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer 23:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8846 blocker, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , t/SuggestionEngine_ExplodedTerms.t sneakily uses database 23:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8978 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patron's dateexpiry is erroneously updated if dateexpiry in UnWantedField syspref 23:06 jenkins_koha Starting build #5 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 23:06 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8931 - submit buttons have blue background 23:06 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8636 - add Moose dependency to the dependencies 23:06 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8846 conflict resolution: correct path 23:06 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8982 minor, P5 - low, ---, mjr, Pushed to Master , koha-create rejects --database option 23:06 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8846: Exploded Terms test sneakily uses database 23:06 jenkins_koha * koha: Bug 8978: Patron's dateexpiry erroneously updated when in UnwantedField 23:06 jenkins_koha * mjr: Bug 8982 make koha-create accept --database option 23:06 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #4: SUCCESS in 1 hr 24 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/4/ 23:04 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 23:04 jenkins_koha oleonard: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 23:04 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #926: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/926/ 22:41 pastebot "jcamins" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Output from my rather hacked-upon pybugz" (48 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/258 21:42 jenkins_koha Starting build #4 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 21:38 eythian jcamins: exactly 21:37 jcamins eythian: ummm... 21:36 eythian http://i.imgur.com/2OyTN.jpg 21:20 eythian hi 21:14 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 8804 [Revised] Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5b8e1548e44b66b8d9206b206ee0e768d3c5c12b> 21:13 jcamins Hm. Build #927 is going to fail. 21:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #926 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8707 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , tags always say approved 20:52 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8707 - tags always say approved 20:52 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Correct a typo in docs/history.txt and add 3.6.x releases 20:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #3: SUCCESS in 41 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/3/ 20:29 xmacex jcamins: we use 001 here 20:29 xmacex jcamins: aha, ok 20:29 xmacex our data should have 001 as ID (i will have to check each record though) 20:29 jcamins The good point was not that Zebra will change the records, but that the default configuration uses 999 for the unique ID. 20:28 jcamins If your records don't have IDs, they will be unfindable. 20:28 jcamins No. 20:28 xmacex jcamins: except assign new IDs, right? 20:27 jcamins Zebra will not modify your records in any way. 20:27 xmacex jcamins: yeah 20:27 xmacex and i need to override that behavious 20:27 jcamins xmacex: yeah. That's why you need to change the configuration to use the same ID that your current system does. 20:26 xmacex tomorrow i will see how the Real System behaves when one does copy-cataloguing. If it will generate it's own IDs, it means trouble 20:26 xmacex jcamins: i want to help the original database, not introduce a gazillion of duplicates 20:25 jcamins You will need to edit the Zebra indexing configuration to use the 001 as the ID. 20:25 jcamins xmacex: oh, good point. 20:23 xmacex hmm anyone got experience running an SRU interface to Solr (instead of Zebra?) 20:20 xmacex i will need to take a look at those import processes to make sure 20:20 xmacex jcamins: and when importing records into Zebra, they are kept as they are, and not get new ID:s (001) or anything like that 20:19 jcamins But the MARCXML you get from the Zebra SRU server looks just the same as the MARCXML from anything else. 20:18 xmacex 50 years of this beauty now 20:18 jcamins And no one has yet beheld MarcXML and said "Gee, that was gorgeous." 20:18 xmacex lol yeah 20:18 jcamins xmacex: "beautiful" is in the eye of the beholder. 20:18 xmacex i just need to make sure in can export nice and beautiful MarcXML from that SRU 20:14 xmacex you know... i wouldn't be even thinking about any of this without all this lovely infrastructure in place. It's like magic 20:13 jcamins It's just a matter of copy-and-paste, and setting the URLs to match what you want. 20:13 xmacex for naked Zebra^ 20:13 xmacex http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/tutorial-oai-sru-yazfrontend.html 20:13 xmacex for Koha^ 20:13 jcamins Exactly. 20:12 xmacex http://stats.workbuffer.org/koha3-2manual/a10341.html 20:11 jcamins That doesn't install the SRU stuff, but that'd be pretty easy. 20:11 xmacex that sounds like a good path to take 20:11 xmacex jcamins: cool 20:10 xmacex i thought about doing about the same with VuFind and piggyback on it's configuration of Solr, ready for MARC21, but SRU on top of Solr needs to be done 20:10 jenkins_koha Starting build #3 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 20:10 jenkins_koha jcamins: Correct a typo in docs/history.txt and add 3.6.x releases 20:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #2: SUCCESS in 43 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/2/ 20:10 jcamins For indexing you will need to run the commands manually, but that's doable. 20:09 jcamins It'll be all set up for MARC21. 20:09 jcamins Use the now-configured Zebra installation in /home/zebra. 20:09 xmacex i'm all for cheating :D 20:09 jcamins Run `t/db_dependent/zebra_config.pl /home/zebra` 20:08 jcamins Clone Koha. 20:08 jcamins My recommendation: cheat. 20:08 jcamins xmacex: it depends. 20:07 * xmacex looks up Zebra documentation 20:07 xmacex jcamins: is Zebra a hassle to set up on it's own? 20:06 * rangi is still waiting for people to arrive for his meeting 20:06 jcamins Ultimately, that's all you're using for SRU. 20:06 xmacex i haven't looked at it at this point (i started working today) 20:06 rangi if you are using koha you are using zebra anyway 20:06 xmacex hmm Zebra is an option for sure 20:05 xmacex i will index all the stuff into Solr (using VuFind's SolrMarc setup for the indexing) to help in analysis work etc., and then i just want the manipulated records back into the Real System somehow 20:05 jcamins What I'd probably do is just use Zebra. 20:04 xmacex yeah this stuff is all MARC21 all the way 20:04 jcamins Zebra does all the SRU stuff directly, I think. 20:04 xmacex jcamins: yeah bringing all of Koha in will bring some overhead to it. If you have a favourite SRU server that does only that, i'd love the hear what's your favourite 20:03 * jcamins is very much pro-SRU, but if you're doing MARC-intensive manipulation for data pulled out of a MARC-based ILS, Z39.50 is likely to be more compatible, I would think. 20:03 xmacex doesn't look too bad at all 20:03 jcamins You could certainly use Koha for that, but... wouldn't Z39.50 make a little more sense? 20:03 xmacex so, everyone running their Koha's with beautiful SRU endpoints, right? 20:02 xmacex jcamins: but now i'm just helping this one consortia with their data quality, and i want to be agnostic to the system they are using (thus: SRU because i believe we can do it without contacting the vendor at all) 20:01 jcamins xmacex: of course! :) 20:01 xmacex jcamins: if i'd be running the show here in Finland, everyone would be running Koha, that's for sure 20:01 oleonard Bye #koha 20:00 xmacex jcamins: well... 20:00 jcamins You were looking at switching to Koha then got saddled by the government with something proprietary, weren't you? 20:00 xmacex jcamins: cool, just wanted to make that clear ;) 20:00 jcamins xmacex: yes, I gathered. ;) 20:00 xmacex when i say Real System, yes that's with some sarcasm indeed 19:59 libsysguy :p 19:59 libsysguy emacs dude, get with a real text editor 19:59 xmacex what we are doing is extracting our records from our Real System (Axiell Aurora), doing little management operations (normalizing values, deduplication, analysis etc.), and then try to sneak them back into our Real System 19:58 jcamins libsysguy: you switched windows? :P 19:58 libsysguy i just need to make it look purty now 19:58 libsysguy it was easy, C-space *hightlight all the old code* C-w 19:58 jcamins xmacex: that makes sense to me. :) 19:58 xmacex i looked at some options, and i reckoned maybe i'll just install Koha and have it serve the records in SRU 19:57 jcamins libsysguy++ 19:57 xmacex i'm working on a little project/contract, and i believe i would like to have an SRU server, serving MarcXML for a while 19:57 jcamins Yes!!! 19:57 libsysguy oh yes I killed the arrow javascript 19:57 jcamins libsysguy: not with the existing javascript, please, not the existing javascript. 19:57 jcamins xmacex: are you having issues with it? 19:57 libsysguy I am working on implementing jquery sortable 19:57 jcamins libsysguy: _you_ are the one who wanted to look at addbiblio. 19:57 libsysguy heh I don't blame you 19:56 libsysguy jcamins how do you always come up with the longest patches 19:56 oleonard libsysguy: I may have been talking about NOT messing with addbiblio.tt ;) 19:56 xmacex i came to maybe have a little chat about Koha and SRU 19:56 libsysguy ahh 19:56 jcamins libsysguy: that's probably the patch you were thinking of. 19:56 oleonard libsysguy: I was not 19:55 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field 19:55 wahanui it has been said that bug 7455 is suitable for 3.10. 19:55 jcamins libsysguy: bug 7455 19:55 libsysguy oleonard were you recently talking about messing with addbiblio.tt 19:55 paul_p wizzyrea = http://www.biblibre.com/en/blog/entry/biblibre-takes-another-next-step 19:55 paul_p time for dinner ;-) 19:54 xmacex hi everyone 19:54 wizzyrea oh hey! 19:54 xmacex Hola 19:54 wizzyrea ohh hdl is leaving? I will miss him 19:53 oleonard If there is a way to improve the interface without digging into the code I would choose it :) 19:51 paul_p oleonard = does your question imply that you'll work on this ? 19:51 * oleonard is trying to imagine template-based ways to make that interface more manageable. 19:51 oleonard Okay thanks. And yes, I did see the announcement 19:50 paul_p oleonard = I don't think so (have you seen the announcement that hdl is leaving ? he was the author) 19:49 oleonard paul_p: Is it likely that Biblibre will ever re-work the jEditable version of smart-rules.pl for master? 19:48 rangi bbl 19:48 wahanui meeting time is probably always going to favour one section of the globe 19:48 rangi ok, meeting time 19:47 cait ah, only half-here 19:47 rangi but i like being able to look between tags, i can then see ohh on the 31st i pushed 7 things 19:47 cait hi oleonard? 19:47 jcamins libsysguy: that was pretty awesome, I have to tell you. 19:47 rangi paul_p: it works for me, you might have a better way of doing it 19:47 * oleonard waves his arms and jumps up and down 19:47 libsysguy I guess I should have read back 19:47 paul_p rangi = OK, got it 19:47 libsysguy oh doh 19:47 huginn libsysguy: oleonard was last seen in #koha 58 seconds ago: <oleonard> jcamins: A revision was requested 19:47 libsysguy @seen oleonard 19:47 jcamins Never attached. 19:46 jcamins Yup. 19:46 * jcamins checks. 19:46 jcamins I thought. 19:46 jcamins oleonard: right, I signed off on the revised patch. 19:46 rangi work my way through them, then push, and tag the commit i got up to 19:46 oleonard jcamins: A revision was requested 19:46 rangi then i look for everything added since my last tag 19:45 rangi i do a pull of master 19:45 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8804 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Quiet errors in the log from Auth.pm 19:45 jcamins I could've sworn I signed off on bug 8804. 19:45 rangi i create it after ive pushed 19:45 paul_p rangi = it mean you create the tag BEFORE you fetch and check/merge ? 19:44 rangi but im lazy and just tag with the date 19:44 rangi i could delete and retag 19:44 rangi which was the last time i checked master 19:43 rangi eg i have a tag of 2012-10-31 19:43 rangi with the date 19:43 rangi now i just do a new one 19:43 paul_p rangi = git tag "i-am-here", sounds a good plan. why do you "move" the tag ? drop / recreate ? 19:42 rangi that way i know where i got up to 19:42 rangi then push, and tag locally again 19:42 jcamins I'm focusing on the 3.10 commits to start with, while I get into the swing of things. 19:42 rangi and look at the bugs, and then cherry-pick if needed 19:41 rangi then i look at the new commits on it 19:41 rangi the way i do rmaint paul_p (which you are doing for the next few weeks :)) i tag master locally with where i got up to 19:41 paul_p jcamins yep, I started checking, testing & merging. Feel free to push anything that can, i'll take care of avoiding the string-change ones 19:40 cait paul_p: I agree :) 19:40 jcamins paul_p: none of the patches I pushed had string changes. 19:39 paul_p closed day today. /me feel like if it was saturday... 19:39 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/stats/koha-3.10.x/activity.html 19:38 rangi hi paul_p 19:38 tcohen hi paul_p 19:38 paul_p hello #koha 19:35 jcamins Oh. I already hit enhancements. 19:32 rangi heh 19:32 cait :) 19:32 cait you waited until I was away and then started a new branch and some badge things! 19:31 rangi hmm? 19:31 cait what am I missing now? 19:31 cait oh no 19:31 rangi ill now set up stats for 3.10.x too 19:30 rangi :) 19:30 wahanui the wiki is kind of an expert http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/SQL_Reports_Library 19:30 rangi and the wiki 19:30 rangi and on koha-community.org itself 19:29 rangi yep 19:29 jcamins Ooh, we should put that on the dashboard. 19:28 rangi you can get a little badge, for any branch 19:28 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/badge/? 19:28 rangi also check this out 19:28 rangi yep did that last night 19:27 jcamins Jenkins is now watching 3.10.x. 19:27 jcamins Ooh, exciting! 19:27 jenkins_koha Starting build #2 for job Koha_3.10.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 19:26 * khall is a 90's kid 19:26 khall sweet! 19:26 rangi yay http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=qa-test-tools.git;a=summary 19:25 khall yo 19:25 rangi heya khall and NateC 19:23 rangi would simplify the whole thing 19:22 rangi actually moo would be a great one to use for context 19:21 jcamins Yup. 19:21 rangi fix them in the move to Koha 19:21 rangi however ppl may not have known about it 19:21 rangi yep, context is valid .. anything newish yeah, not so much 19:20 jcamins C4::Category dates back 3 years. 19:20 jcamins C4::Context does date back a decade. 19:20 jcamins And perhaps with C4::Context that was a reasonable excuse. 19:20 jcamins Yes. 19:20 rangi no, but AUTOLOAD does 19:20 rangi but yeah, pretty much 19:20 jcamins The code doesn't. 19:20 rangi it predates class::accesor 19:19 rangi to be fair 19:19 jcamins ... are you kidding me? We used AUTOLOAD as an exact alternative to Class::Accessor? 19:18 jcamins Especially after my screech of horrified disbelief. 19:18 jcamins You may not be surprised to know that we are. 19:18 * jcamins just looked to see if we were using AUTOLOAD anywhere else. 19:17 jcamins AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! 19:17 rangi class::accessor would fix it :) or moo :) 19:17 jcamins rangi: yeah. I reported a bug. 19:16 rangi jcamins: cos we told it not to 19:16 rangi morning trea 19:12 jcamins Fun fact: You can do "C4::Context->whateveryoupleaseanddamnthetorpedosfullspeedahead()" and Perl won't complain. 19:11 jcamins oleonard: no, I was wondering who wrote the comment about autoload in C4::Context. 19:10 oleonard Is he in trouble? 19:10 rangi andrew arensberger 19:10 jcamins Who was arensb? 19:08 wahanui oleonard is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer 19:08 wizzyrea hey oleonard 19:07 rangi mtj: can you send me you ssh pub key please 19:07 oleonard Hi wizzyrea 19:06 jcamins oleonard: it's insulted that you used IE to test something. 19:05 oleonard Geez, Firefox has crashed on me 3 times today. What gives? 19:00 jcamins chris_n: lol 19:00 chris_n now the cows can call home rather than coming home 18:59 chris_n jcamins: exactly the same; it seems ipv6 was the solution 18:58 jcamins chris_n: Cows as in... four-legged bovines that go "moo"? 18:56 chris_n interesting discussion on how to register cows with tin cans at the ends of a string with one's asterisk server over on #asterisk 18:47 * oleonard has parent-teacher conferences at 4, would be better with beer 18:35 rangi Hehe 18:33 tcohen i want beer at 4 o'clock too! 18:32 rangi Does nate have power now? 18:31 bag heya rangi and oleonard 18:29 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded. 18:29 rangi @later tell wizzyrea don't forget beer o'clock today at 4 18:25 oleonard Hi rangi 18:24 wahanui i guess Morning is a state of mind. or whenever the cat wants breakfast. 18:24 rangi Morning 18:19 tcohen good evening #koha 18:06 jcamins Because I use a worker-style handler. 18:05 jcamins I see. 18:05 jcamins Oh. 18:05 jcamins Why isn't the syspref cache getting updated? 18:05 jcamins Okay, this is confusing. 16:26 jcamins doesn't look like it. 16:26 jcamins Hmmm... 16:23 jcamins Actually, I think I may have a syndetics account to test with. Lemme check. 16:23 druthb I think our new QAM would give you the stink-eye over that "let it ride" idea, too. 16:23 * oleonard invites druthb to snag some of her customers' credentials and test :P 16:22 * druthb gives oleonard the ebil eye. 16:22 oleonard Or, we could say "look good to me" and hope it doesn't break Syndetics and LibraryThing 16:20 oleonard For Bug 8952 to get tested properly requires Syndetics and LibraryThing :| 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8952 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Add http:// to url in social media links on opac-detail 16:20 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7932 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , twitter share doesn't work with socialnetworks 16:19 oleonard Now Bug 7932 is in a race with Bug 8952 to see who gets to conflict with whom 16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Pushed to Master , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field 16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , submit buttons have blue background 16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8636 critical, P3, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , Some dependencies are not listed by the installer 16:07 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 3) 16:07 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 2) 16:07 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up) 16:07 jenkins_koha * fridolyn.somers: Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field 16:07 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8846 blocker, P1 - high, ---, jcamins, Pushed to Master , t/SuggestionEngine_ExplodedTerms.t sneakily uses database 16:07 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Bug 8931 - submit buttons have blue background 16:07 jenkins_koha * robin: Bug 8636 - add Moose dependency to the dependencies 16:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8846 conflict resolution: correct path 16:07 jenkins_koha * jcamins: Bug 8846: Exploded Terms test sneakily uses database 16:07 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #925: SUCCESS in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/925/ 16:02 jcamins Like a leavened crepe, almost. 16:02 jcamins When I hear "pancake," I think of wimpy little things made with lots of milk and eggs, and leavened using baking powder, or possibly baking soda. 16:00 druthb ah-hah! 16:00 oleonard What is this wizardry? 16:00 jcamins oleonard: I use griddle cake to refer to a pancake made using dough instead of batter. 15:59 druthb ...and a flapjack? 15:58 oleonard What's the difference between a griddle cake and a pancake? 15:58 chris_n mmmm 15:58 jcamins Seems to me you should have really good sourdough. 15:58 jcamins chris_n: sourdough griddle cakes. 15:57 chris_n :'( 15:57 oleonard Sorry chris_n, the cake was a lie. 15:50 chris_n did someone mention cake? 15:34 cait heh 15:33 jcamins Mmm. Sourdough. 15:28 jcamins Sourdough griddle cakes. What will he think of next? 14:57 jenkins_koha Starting build #925 for job Koha_master (previous build: FIXED) 14:55 cait I will try out my qam muscles when back from the family vacation 14:55 cait :) 14:55 cait jcamins++ 14:55 cait lol 14:53 * jcamins was very excited to see the messages on koha-commits for a moment, before he realized that he was the one who was pushing code. 14:53 * oleonard is glad to see jcamins flexing those RM muscles 14:50 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Merge branch 'bug_7455' into 3.12-master <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=4db3611ee6210d549e5dda5f705a02310c93e500> / Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 3) <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=9b55ebff65971919a539b060b1aa5ba2de4b94c3> / Bug 7455: Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field (follow-up 2) <http://git.koha-com 14:24 mtompset Have a good day (24 hour period). 14:24 * mtompset waves goodbye to druthb, drojf, gmcharlt, cait, cait-m, jcamins, oleonard, nengard, etc. 14:23 mtompset At least it should be easy enough to convert. 14:22 mtompset I just got sent a file with mixed DOS/Unix end of lines, in a text file that is basically standard format markers (SFM) if anyone is familiar with that. 14:22 mtompset It's amazing the various formats people use. 14:22 mtompset Greetings, everyone. I should probably go, early meeting tomorrow. Sorry I didn't greet everyone earlier... Looking at a data import issue. :) 14:14 * cait waves to gmcharlt and druthb :) 14:14 * gmcharlt waves back 14:11 * druthb waves to gmcharlt. 14:09 gmcharlt good morning 14:00 jcamins_ Hm. 13:51 jcamins Back in a few. 13:51 jcamins Route restart. 13:51 druthb lulz 13:51 wahanui Well, she finally snapped, like we all knew she would. 13:51 druthb wahanui: druthb? 13:50 druthb hi. :) 13:50 cait :) 13:49 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7455 normal, P4, ---, fridolyn.somers, Passed QA , Authority subfields are cloned in the wrong field 13:49 jcamins Bug 7455 is suitable for 3.10. 13:49 jcamins They are not, and do not become fuzzy. 13:46 jcamins Oh, except that these might already *be* fuzzy. I'll check. 13:46 cait jcamins: ? 13:46 jcamins It does not seem to impact the translation. 13:45 jcamins Oh, there we go. 13:44 jcamins cait: because in order to change the lines in the template, I'm going to have to change the template, meaning that the diff will list those lines anyway. 13:44 cait but you are probably right, if moving would break it, there would be lots more to retranslate 13:44 cait I am not sure when the script marks something fuzzy 13:43 marcelr mtj are you still here? 13:43 cait marcelr: but the po files also list where something was found 13:43 marcelr wherever they are in the template file 13:43 cait jcamins: why? 13:43 jcamins It's going to be hard to tell... 13:43 marcelr it translates all occurrences 13:43 cait german is completed if you wanted to test 13:43 marcelr hi; i think it is not a problem 13:43 cait I think a test run of the translation update script is the best way to tell 13:43 cait jcamins: I have wondered about that in the past, I am not usre 13:42 jcamins Good morning, marcelr. 13:42 jcamins So if we have the string "The catalog" on line 1 of a template, and it moves to line 2 of that template, it will still get translated to "Das Katalog" or whatever that would be in German? 13:42 marcelr hi jcamins 13:41 jcamins cait: drojf: anyone who does translation: a string changing lines will not effect the translation process, right? 13:40 marcelr ? 13:40 marcelr mtj around> 13:40 marcelr hi koha 13:38 drojf hi #koha 13:32 jcamins It's the space *around* the button. 13:32 jcamins It's not the *button* that has a blue background. 13:32 * oleonard assures jcamins we're not messing with him 13:32 jcamins Oh, I see. 13:31 oleonard it's even harder to see in the screenshot because there's not a lot of white background for contrast 13:30 jcamins I'm looking at the screenshot, and I don't see any blue. 13:30 nengard yup 13:30 oleonard And it's pretty subtle, depending on your display and angle of view 13:30 nengard but it bugs me 13:30 nengard it's a very tiny style thing 13:30 nengard if you look at my screenshot the background on submit buttons is blue - it should be transparent 13:30 nengard k it wasn't 13:29 jcamins If it was, someone forgot to update the bug. 13:29 nengard hang on 13:29 jcamins At least, I don't think so. 13:29 jcamins Nope. 13:29 nengard wasn't that pushed already 13:29 jcamins And I can't figure out what it's supposed to do. 13:29 nengard k 13:28 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8931 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , submit buttons have blue background 13:28 jcamins nengard: I'm looking at bug 8931. 12:40 magnuse yay! 12:40 jcamins They're just for testing the NORMARC DOM configuration. 12:40 * jcamins is sure they will be. 12:38 magnuse most of them probably come from BIBSYS 12:37 magnuse ah, hope they are usable 12:37 jcamins magnuse: NORMARC records 12:37 jcamins Sure. 12:36 cait jcamins_away: have a minute? 12:36 cait don't know why, but i am sure there is a good reason 12:36 magnuse huh?? 12:36 cait magnuse++ 12:36 magnuse huh? 12:34 jcamins_away magnuse++ 12:24 mtompset Greetings, cait. 12:22 mtompset Greetings, oleonard. 12:19 oleonard Hi #koha 11:43 mtj yeah, more than i can remember 11:41 mtompset (for koha) 11:41 mtompset mtj, have you ever been involved in data migration projects? 11:41 mtompset I leave on the 7th... it's the 1st now... 11:38 mtompset My sleeps are variable now. I'm trying to shift my sleeping pattern. 11:37 mtj how many sleepzzZ till ? 11:36 mtompset Not a problem. Need to feel mildly useful in the midst of this transitioning back to Canada. 11:36 mtj mtompset, thanx for taking a looky too :) 11:34 mtj … it looks like something thats a little problem now, that could become a big problem with plack 11:33 mtj i dunno whats causing it, but its probably a good thing to fix 11:32 mtompset Yes, because if we have our libraries right, we should not have that scenario, in my opinion. 11:31 mtj i must add a warnings.t test to my TODO list - it would be good to be able to track that stat 11:31 mtompset I think C4::Biblio probably had that problem, but someone fixed it with a require not a use, and only in a limited section. That's my guess. 11:30 mtompset C4::Reserves uses C4::Members. 11:30 mtompset C4::Members uses C4::Reserves. 11:30 mtj yeah , that was my hunch 11:29 mtompset Hmmm... a circular use? 11:26 mtompset But that's a bizarre thing... I can't seem to figure out how CanBookBeReserved is redefined. I'm still looking though. 11:25 mtompset mtj, I had noticed that the redefined messages had gotten noisier lately. 11:23 mtompset It is not recommended to do it both ways in general on the same machine. 11:23 mtompset only do that in a test environment and make sure you have a backup! 11:17 new ok. I will try it both ways 11:16 mtompset I may have glossed over some steps, but that is the general gist of it. 11:15 mtompset You then use the staff client to upgrade your database. 11:15 mtompset Basically, you back up your DB, install the packages, and then once you have created the instance, you put your data into the blank instance you created. 11:14 mtompset If I understood what you said correctly. 11:14 mtompset basically, yes. 11:13 new <mtj>: new: the short answer is 'no' : if you advance the answer, will it be like you install from the beginning koha and then start configuring the rest as is written in manual and then restore database? 11:13 mtj anyone have any ideas on this problem ? -> http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/2012-November/038362.html 11:12 mtompset Sorry, got distracted. No. that is the old way of installing. We are recommending you do the new way which is far easier on a forward basis. 11:10 mtj new: the short answer is 'no' 11:08 new doing make, make test, make install will work also doing some of the guide you provided to me? 11:07 new One last question, I think 11:07 new ok. 11:06 mtompset Yes! 11:06 new the above link will work and for koha 3.8? 11:06 mtompset no long builds, test, and installs. 11:06 mtompset no answering questions, which you hope you answered correctly. 11:06 mtompset as you can see... typing those three commands is very simple. 11:05 mtompset because the dependencies of Koha has increased. 11:05 mtompset And sometimes, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade koha-common 11:05 mtompset sudo apt-get upgrade koha-common 11:05 mtompset sudo apt-get update 11:05 mtompset upgrading once you have package installations is very easy. 11:04 mtompset (well 90% is not a precise number, but it is meant to show how much easier it is) 11:04 mtompset the beauty of packages is all you have to type is: "sudo apt-get install koha-common" and your install is 90% done without the make, make test, make install type steps. 11:03 mtompset however, as of 3.4.x, packages became mainstream. 11:02 mtompset Prior to 3.4.x, packages were experimental. 11:02 mtompset Ignore koha, use koha-common. 11:01 new what is the different of koha - common and koha - 3.* versions? 11:01 mtompset Or any case of 3.4.x and higher. 11:00 mtompset This should work well for your case. 11:00 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Moving_an_installation_from_a_regular_install_to_the_Debian_packages 11:00 mtompset And that is why I gave you the link. 11:00 new for any eidtion 11:00 new the problem is not the number of commands but a guide for it. If it was somewhere writen, I think it will be good even though for someone who does not know what to do 11:00 mtompset That is, you have to do "a lot" to upgrade. 10:59 mtompset (sorry if the religious metaphor is offensive) 10:58 mtompset Right now, you are in upgrade purgatory. 10:58 mtompset imagine a future where you only have to type two, maybe three, commands to upgrade. 10:57 mtompset yes, but if you succeeded at a tarball install (which is what the steps you gave are), then you should be able to follow these instructions. 10:56 mtompset http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Moving_an_installation_from_a_regular_install_to_the_Debian_packages 10:54 new because I am newbie, I don't know exactly the way 10:54 mtompset Let me see if I can find that URL to help you. 10:54 mtompset I would suggest you do a packages install, and transplant your data. 10:53 new debian 10:53 new I know that 10:53 mtompset What operating system are you using? 10:53 mtompset new: The current version is 3.8.6 10:53 new Are these the same just like when you install koha (perl Makefile.pl -> make -> test make -> sudo make install)? 10:52 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8987 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, RESOLVED FIXED, "New report button" broken 10:52 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Bug 8987 : JS error 10:52 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.8.x build #221: SUCCESS in 39 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/221/ 10:50 new Can you tell the steps of update koha from 3.4.1 to 3.4.8? 10:49 new hello 10:35 davidnind so true - especially in the free software world 10:34 mtompset Learning is a life long process and it never stops. I just wish it slowed down sometimes. :) 10:33 mtompset You and me both. :) 10:32 davidnind thanks - haven't been too active lately as work has been busy; only try to answer some of the questions where I can help a little - still lots to learn! 10:30 huginn mtompset: Karma for "davidnind" has been increased 9 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 9. 10:30 mtompset @karma davidnind 10:29 mtompset I saw some of your replies to various problems in the list, and thought you did a good job pointing people to useful resources which may contain their answer. 10:29 davidnind ? 10:29 mtompset Sorry, that karma update was seriously delayed, davidnind. :) 10:28 mtompset davidnind++ 10:27 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 10:16 cait hi mtj :) 10:16 mtj heya cait :) 10:15 mtj meh, too slow :/ 10:14 mtj my hunch is you've done some mods to the bib frameworks, thats made koha unhappy 10:13 mib_zf15r8 ok, I will try that 10:13 mtj well, my best advice is to setup a test koha with a fresh database, and test your problem with that 10:12 jenkins_koha Starting build #221 for job Koha_3.8.x (previous build: SUCCESS) 10:11 mib_zf15r8 no 10:11 mtj if you load your database backup, from before that - does it fix your problem? 10:10 mtj ok, so thats probably cauased your problem 10:10 mtj does your problem exist using a fresh/clean database? 10:10 mib_zf15r8 I did however remove a lot of the fields we don't use 10:09 mib_zf15r8 not 10:09 mtj and… are you cut/pasting text into the editor, or not? 10:09 mib_zf15r8 3.8 10:08 mtj mib_zf15r8, what version of koha ? 10:06 mib_zf15r8 can anyone help a beginner koha and linux user solve the following error when trying to catalog books? Can't call method "fields" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2438. 09:02 magnuse see, you gotta be clever to be a librarian :-) 09:02 rangi heh 09:01 magnuse https://catalyst.library.jhu.edu/catalog/bib_408387 - click on "librarian view" for a bit of lol :-) 09:01 mtj ta chris 09:01 magnuse rangi++ 08:55 rangi its back 08:55 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 7339] Help System in IE7-8 Does Not Load With 500 Error <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7339> / [Bug 6875] de-nesting C4 packages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6875> / [Bug 6536] Z3950 Enhancements: SRU targets, MARC conversion, additional XSLT processing <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6536> / [Bug 7127] Templates must be valid XHTML 08:54 mtj rangi, thanx - wanna ping #koha when bugz is back up… 08:37 tweetbot` [off] twitter: @mikromarc: "The Bibits AS Daily is out! http://t.co/Ys8A4TGL ▸ Top stories today via @Fight4libraries @kohails" 08:28 rangi bugzilla will be down for a bit, security upgrades 08:28 magnuse w00t - getting off to a good start :-) 08:28 jenkins_koha Project Koha_3.10.x build #1: SUCCESS in 52 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.10.x/1/ 08:01 magnuse too bad fredericd is having some kind og trouble with the prefs .po file for nb-NO 07:59 rangi not long now 07:59 rangi yep :) 07:55 * magnuse is reminded to get on with the translations for 3.10 07:55 magnuse jcamins++ 07:54 rangi but he pushed some of those to master already today 07:54 magnuse ah, ok 07:53 rangi (see his email) 07:53 rangi bug fixes still 07:53 rangi well, not yet 07:53 cjh awesome! 07:53 magnuse and of course that means jcamins_away will start pushing new features to master? 07:52 magnuse very cool! 07:52 rangi yep just set it up 07:51 magnuse build #1! 07:43 jenkins_koha Starting build #1 for job Koha_3.10.x 07:42 mtj awww, very cool 07:33 rangi you can get a little badge for any job 07:32 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_3.8.x/badge/? 07:32 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/badge/? 06:41 huginn magnuse: The operation succeeded. 06:41 magnuse @later tell jcamins: you might want to have a look in your gmail :-) 06:30 * magnuse waves 04:36 mtompset Greetings, Oak. 03:53 * Oak waves 03:07 wahanui i guess island time is http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8144 03:07 eythian wahanui: island time 03:07 eythian wahanui: island time is at http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8144 03:07 wahanui eythian: no idea 03:07 eythian wahanui: are you there? 03:06 eythian wahanui: island time is http://arxiv.org/abs/1210.8144 03:02 mtompset Greetings, #koha. 02:35 huginn rangi: Quote #136: "<sekjal> MARC. Must. Die!" (added by wizzyrea at 06:18 PM, May 26, 2011) 02:35 rangi @quote random 02:07 eythian no problem 02:07 jcamins_away Thanks. 02:07 jcamins_away Yay! 02:07 eythian uploaded to the repo now 02:06 eythian that looks better 02:06 eythian Exporting indices... 02:06 eythian Successfully uploaded packages. 02:06 eythian Uploading to koha (via local to localhost): 02:06 jcamins_away Removed the source from the build. 02:05 eythian what did you change? 02:05 jcamins_away Yup. 02:05 eythian same URL? 02:04 eythian OK 02:04 jcamins_away Try again? 02:02 jcamins_away Okay, figured it out. 02:02 jcamins_away Oh. 02:00 eythian the changes requires the .dsc 02:00 jcamins_away Or .changes, or .dsc, or something? 02:00 jcamins_away eythian: can you add just the .build? 01:53 eythian heh 01:52 * jcamins_away could cross-compile for ARM... 01:51 eythian I was dreading the time we'd hit an XS module... 01:50 jcamins_away Yeah, that makes sense. 01:48 eythian I assume they have to be built in one pass, or something like that. 01:47 jcamins_away Hm. 01:47 eythian arg, I can't put that in the repo, as the .dsc files have different checksums in them 01:41 jcamins_away eythian: http://kohadev.cpbibliography.com/libdigest_amd64.tar.gz 01:39 jcamins_away Will do. 01:38 eythian if you could sent me all the _amd64 files, I could put them in the repo 01:38 eythian cool 01:37 jcamins_away Well, I now have the amd64 packages. 01:36 eythian debuild -uc -us 01:36 jcamins_away eythian: what command do you use for building it? 01:33 eythian http://ubuntuone.com/1gwMSXT4q5SFZGc29ILYss <-- jcamins_away 01:31 jcamins_away I'll build the amd64 packages. 01:31 eythian jcamins_away: OK 01:31 jcamins_away eythian: could you tar up the debian/ directory for libdigest-jhash-perl? 01:19 cait bye :) 01:15 jcamins_away Of course, it's a moot point for those of us who use Plack. 01:14 eythian cool 01:14 jcamins_away Yeah, that's not one of them. I implemented the CHI so it would degrade gracefully on Squeeze. 01:13 eythian There are some other "optional" dependencies that will cause test failures if they're not there. 01:12 jcamins_away Entirely optional. 01:12 jcamins_away Nope. 01:12 eythian hopefully CHI isn't required for any tests to pass... 01:11 jcamins_away Actually, plan C: let's just remove CHI. That's not what I want to test. 01:11 eythian that'll probably do it. 01:11 jcamins_away Backup plan: I will mark CHI recommended manually. 01:10 jcamins_away Okay. 01:10 eythian yeah 01:10 jcamins_away So it's that the packages aren't marking things as optional. 01:10 eythian partially because Koha has no concept of build-depends just yet, but mostly because I haven't done it. 01:10 jcamins_away Ah. 01:10 eythian update-control doesn't split things into recommended/suggested/build depends 01:09 eythian It's not pbuilder's fault 01:09 jcamins_away Unfortunately, pbuilder translates this to ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED. 01:09 rangi YAY 01:08 jcamins_away rangi: it's an unneeded package for an unnecessary dependency of CHI, which is optional. 01:08 rangi what's that one even for? 01:08 jcamins_away The new dependencies are optional. 01:07 eythian People have been cramming in the dependencies lately 01:07 jcamins_away I'll find a way to make it ignore the dependency. 01:06 eythian hmm, I don't know how to cross-compile it 01:04 eythian I think it's the first I've encountered with native code 01:04 jcamins_away That's inconvenient. 01:04 eythian that probably wouldn't work 01:03 eythian so it compiled for i386 01:03 jcamins_away Oh, I have to use i386? 01:03 eythian ah, I bet it has C in it 01:03 jcamins_away http://debian.koha-community.org/koha/dists/squeeze-dev/main/binary-amd64/Packages 01:03 eythian squeeze-dev|main|i386: libdigest-jhash-perl 0.07-1 01:03 jcamins_away It's not in the Packages file. 01:03 eythian it definitely uploaded 01:02 eythian 12652 100% 47.89kB/s 0:00:00 (xfer#23, to-check=59/345) 01:02 eythian pool/main/libd/libdigest-jhash-perl/libdigest-jhash-perl_0.07-1_i386.deb 01:00 jcamins_away libdigest-jhash-perl doesn't seem to be there yet? 00:57 jcamins_away Thanks! 00:57 eythian jcamins_away: uploaded those three packages 00:49 rangi yippie ! 00:48 huginn 04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8978 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha, Pushed to Master , Patron's dateexpiry is erroneously updated if dateexpiry in UnWantedField syspref 00:48 jenkins_koha koha: Bug 8978: Patron's dateexpiry erroneously updated when in UnwantedField 00:48 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #924: FIXED in 1 hr 10 min: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/924/ 00:48 jenkins_koha Yippie, build fixed! 00:41 eythian s/packages/modules/ 00:41 eythian Some time soon I need to revamp this process some, including putting all the packages in git. 00:40 eythian I'm building them now 00:40 jcamins_away This is going to make testing the release process problematic. 00:37 eythian and try-tiny is an old version 00:37 eythian yeah 00:37 jcamins_away Also libhash-moreutils-perl. 00:37 jcamins_away Yeah, it's in wheezy. 00:36 eythian it's probably also in debian testing 00:36 eythian I wonder why pdebuild didn't spot that. 00:36 eythian I apparently built it locally but didn't put it in the repo 00:36 eythian oh 00:36 eythian Status: install ok installed 00:36 eythian Package: libdigest-jhash-perl 00:36 jcamins_away libdigest-jhash-perl 00:35 eythian there are more missing things 00:35 jcamins_away Oh, it's definitely there. 00:35 eythian oh, right 00:35 eythian jcamins_away: squeeze-dev|main|amd64: libchi-perl 0.55-1 00:34 jcamins_away eythian: http://paste.koha-community.org/257 00:30 eythian on what grounds? 00:29 jcamins_away libchi-driver-memcached-perl refuses to install. 00:24 eythian cait: sounds acceptable :) 00:24 cait we spent the evening with spaghetti, lemon cake and boardgames 00:23 jcamins_away Not bad. Very quiet, since subways are out. 00:23 cait eythian: oh, iin reutlingen now, they will keep me away :) 00:23 eythian heh 00:23 wizzyrea i had a boatload of stuff. 00:23 wizzyrea :P 00:23 wizzyrea plus I made them deliver the stuffs 00:22 wizzyrea *nod* found that one the first day I think :) 00:22 eythian wizzyrea: no, it's handily close. Also the mediterranian one is even closer. 00:22 wizzyrea how is life in nyc? 00:22 wizzyrea oh jcamins - I"m glad to see you 00:21 eythian ah yes 00:21 jcamins_away eythian: figured it out. squeeze-dev vs. squeeze. 00:21 wizzyrea the market really *isn't* far. 00:21 wizzyrea not much, achievements unlocked: grocery shopping ;) 00:20 eythian -a 00:20 eythian wizzyrea: howday 00:20 eythian cait: just can't keep off IRC, huh? :) 00:20 rangi sup wizzyrea 00:20 cait good 00:20 eythian jcamins_away: is too! 00:20 jcamins_away Why don't I see it? 00:20 jcamins_away Hm. 00:20 eythian cait: how's holiday? 00:20 eythian squeeze-dev|main|i386: libanyevent-processor-perl 0.003-1 00:20 eythian squeeze-dev|main|i386: libanyevent-http-perl 2.14-1kohadev1 00:19 cait hi eythian 00:18 jcamins_away eythian: it's not on debian.k-c.org. 00:17 eythian hi cait 00:17 * cait waves 00:16 eythian jcamins_away: I think I made a package for it 00:16 jcamins_away eythian: how do you deal with libanyevent-http-perl?