IRC log for #koha, 2012-08-18

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00:00 jcamins_away wajasu: nothing to do with 8622.
00:00 wajasu i'll research that later.
00:00 jcamins_away wajasu: it's the new theme.
00:01 jcamins_away I'd suggest that even an imperfect theme that supports mobile is an improvement.
00:02 wajasu its just 8622 applied.  not your new them yet.
00:02 wajasu or is 8622 an improved prog?
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00:03 wajasu i'm reading the 8622 bug some more.
00:08 jcamins_away wajasu: bug 8622 should not make any changes to the display.
00:08 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8622 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha themes broken
00:08 jcamins_away If there's actually a problem caused by it, that's an issue.
00:08 wajasu i'm swapping between. my mind is playing tricks so i want to verify.
00:09 jcamins_away You'll need to force reload all the CSS/javascript every time you switch.
00:10 wajasu how do you do that? clear caches? or a ffox setting.
00:11 jcamins_away wajasu: shift+reload and ctrl+reload
00:12 wajasu just want to be sure. :)
00:13 wajasu does apache cache anything? do i need to reload it?  i'm not using memcached.
00:14 jcamins_away Probably not.
00:14 jcamins_away Of course, you have such a weird setup that you may have found a way to make it.
00:14 jcamins_away ;)
00:14 * jcamins_away wanders off
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00:40 wajasu i turned on XSLT in staff client ( "default") as it instructs.  I got:
00:41 wajasu Could not create file parser context for file "XSLT": No such file or directory at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 217
00:42 wajasu jcamins_away: is that an issue?
00:43 wajasu remember i am a standard install.
00:46 wajasu probably not. since my non patched master branch did the same error.
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01:00 wajasu but i need to get XSLT working.
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01:17 wajasu jacmins: i see 8622 depends on 8623. do i have to apply that before i apply 8622?
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01:29 jcamins_away wajasu: yes.
01:30 wajasu which question?
01:30 jcamins_away You need to apply 8623 before 8622.
01:30 wajasu ok. my bad.
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01:40 wajasu jcamins: i applied 8623 Do not..., but the 8623 Move...patch didn't apply.   see Mason james notes. i tried but failed.
01:43 wajasu i've got to grab dinner. i'll check in later.
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03:58 wajasu testing 8215
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06:22 wajasu ok got further with bug 8215
06:22 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add Course Reserves
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06:25 wajasu jcamins_away: note that Bug 8623 patch doesn't apply.  See mason's comment.  I will hold off on that 8622 until i can get 8623.
06:25 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories
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06:43 mbalmer Kohallo!
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06:49 mbalmer I updated one of my Kohas to the master branch, yet I don't see the new staff client interface.  That does not need any configuration, does it?
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08:05 fredericd could someone confirm that koha pootle web site is down?
08:08 rangi it was last time i looked
08:08 rangi yep still is
08:09 * fredericd need a descent internet access to fix it (in the nex 2 hours)
08:10 rangi cool, thanks
08:44 mbalmer I updated via git but the new staff client does not show up.  anything I need to do besides git pull?
08:45 rangi shift-refresh to get the new css
08:45 rangi thats about it
08:51 mbalmer hmm, still only in english, but no new staff client in german, that's strange
08:51 mbalmer even after a new make, make install
08:54 rangi neither of those will remake the templates
08:54 rangi you will need to do a ./translate install de-CH or de-DE
08:54 rangi to regenerate the templates
08:56 mbalmer lots of errors in the translation strings
08:57 mbalmer an de-CH is still unsupported in the head branch
08:58 rangi master never gets translated
08:58 rangi the translations are always committed on the stable branches
08:58 mbalmer o crap, was not aware of that.
08:59 mbalmer (we use -head for demonstrations)
08:59 rangi you can grab the .po file from the 3.8.x branch and copy it over and try that, it will be better than what's in master
08:59 rangi (in get speak head is the tip of any branch .. not a branch itself, just fyi)
09:00 rangi s/get/git/
09:37 fredericd pootle server is back
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11:36 dpavlin Can you remind me how to leave message for someone using irc bot?
11:37 jcamins @later tell dpavlin Hi!
11:37 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
11:37 jcamins Actually, I should've left you a message saying "No."
11:38 jcamins It would've been much more amusing. :)
11:40 wajasu jcamins: FYI bug 8623 is not applyable, so i couldn't proceed with testing 8622.
11:40 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8623 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories
11:41 jcamins wajasu: yeah, I'll try and figure out what happened.
11:42 jcamins It obviously applied for Kyle, and Master hasn't changed since then, which is kind of weird.
11:44 wajasu i did get further with course_reserves bug 8215 though?
11:44 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add Course Reserves
11:44 wajasu are reserves the same as holdings?
11:46 jcamins wajasu: no.
11:46 jcamins Holdings are what a library owns.
11:46 wajasu if one reserves an item, where would that reserve be kept?  in items? biblioitems? MARCxml?
11:46 jcamins For course reserves?
11:46 jcamins No idea.
11:47 wajasu i wonder if its supposed to be integrated. i.e. same reserve management.
11:47 jcamins In Koha, a "reserve" is a request that a book be sent to a patron as soon as possible.
11:47 jcamins I couldn't say. You always choose the difficult patches.
11:52 wajasu one other question? when i edit staff or OPAC XSLTDetailDisplay and XSLTResultsDisplay to "default", i get an error.  Did default work at one time?
11:53 jcamins wajasu: still does for me.
11:54 wajasu it wasn't for me when i was testing 8622, but probably because 8623 was needed.
11:54 jcamins Does it work on master?
11:55 wajasu just worked for me.
11:55 jcamins Okay.
11:55 jcamins Yeah, when I mark dependencies they tend to be pretty crucial. ;)
11:56 wajasu i just wasn't used to looking for DependsOn.
11:56 jcamins I use it heavily.
11:56 jcamins You'll probably notice that. ;)
11:59 wajasu oooh one of my signings passed QA :)
12:00 jcamins :)
12:00 wajasu bug 8706 it was
12:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8706 was not found.
12:00 jcamins bug 8076?
12:00 wajasu bug 8607
12:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8076 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , fines showing title twice
12:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8607 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , overdue_notices is broken
12:00 jcamins :)
12:01 wajasu but someone needs to sign 8378 for overdue notice to work again
12:01 wajasu then i can have closure
12:01 wajasu bug 8378
12:01 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
12:02 wajasu i just added that 8378 depends on  8607 :)
12:02 wajasu i'm out of here until Monday. cheers
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13:46 Oak kia ora #koha
13:46 tcohen hi #koha
13:46 tcohen found a new hobby: translating koha into spanish
13:46 tcohen and have a question
13:47 tcohen "Basket groups" means "group of baskets"
13:47 tcohen acquisition context
13:47 tcohen anyone
13:47 tcohen ?
13:49 jcamins_away tcohen: I actually have never worked out exactly what a "basket group" is.
13:49 tcohen me neither! but found really incosistent translations of things related to baskets in the spanish files
13:50 tcohen thanks anyway jcamins_away
13:54 wajasu now basket case. thats me after testing acquisitions :)
13:58 tcohen you mean the Green DAy song?
13:58 tcohen :-P
14:12 dpavlin @later tell bag I'm not really on irc, it's just my irssi hanging around -- you can contact me at ;-)
14:12 huginn dpavlin: The operation succeeded.
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16:36 Oak[…]ing-closed-source
16:37 slef yes
16:40 jcamins But the solution is not to ditch support for MySQL and everyone currently using Koha before we have working support for Postgres and a rock-solid migration plan.
16:40 Oak :)
16:40 Oak ‎"Oracle demonstrated what dumbasses they are with OpenOffice. The community proved there is less value in a name than Oracle want to believe."
16:41 Oak true
16:44 jcamins slef: did you do some work on making indexes user-configurable in an old branch? I have a vague recollection that you might have.
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17:56 bornie21 hey guys I am having problems with nullmailer.The error log is displaying something like" must issue a STARTTLS command first" Please help
17:57 jcamins bornie21: you should probably use something other than nullmailer if you're doing anything complicated.
17:57 jcamins I use Postfix.
17:57 jcamins Not that I could help solve any problems with Postfix, either. I just followed a guide I found on the Internet. ;)
17:59 bornie21 I guess I have to try postfix but are there any dependencies between  koha and nullmailer
17:59 jcamins bornie21: nope. The Koha package installs nullmailer if you don't have any MTA installed, because nullmailer is the least likely to cause security problems.
18:00 jcamins I just installed Postfix instead of nullmailer when I wanted to start using e-mail.
18:01 bornie21 I Think my problem is that I wanted to test it out using
18:01 jcamins Yes, that would be the single most complicated setup you could come up with.
18:01 jcamins At least, that's my understanding.
18:02 bornie21 thanx jcamins I have unistalled and reinstalled nullmailer God knows how many times
18:03 * Oak also uses Postfix.
18:03 jcamins Oak: wasn't I the one who told you to use Postfix? :P
18:03 Oak but also Googled, read and it just worked.
18:03 Oak yes!
18:03 bornie21 any pointers to good tutorials
18:03 jcamins postfix?
18:03 wahanui postfix is probably found at
18:03 Oak it was you jcamins  :)
18:04 jcamins ^^ that's the guide we all used.
18:04 bornie21 you guys are the best will let u knw how it goes
18:10 Oak yes!
18:10 Oak we are :)
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18:56 Oak guten abend cait
18:56 Oak and now good night!
18:57 cait oh
18:57 cait now I missed Oak
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19:31 vinz3g hi
19:31 wahanui what's up, vinz3g
19:31 jcamins vinz3g: OFTC is the IRC network (though you may of course be trying to join the channel by that name). Don't forget to prefix your commands with /
19:31 vinz3g ja, sorry :)
19:31 vinz3g im have a problem
19:31 jcamins With Koha, the open source ILS?
19:33 cait hi vinz
19:33 cait where are you from?
19:34 vinz3g hi Im México
19:34 vinz3g sorry no speak english
19:34 vinz3g im translate with google
19:35 vinz3g :)
19:35 jcamins vinz3g: if you come during the week, we have Spanish speakers here.
19:35 vinz3g The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon!
19:36 vinz3g ok, great
19:36 jcamins vinz3g: you have to run the updater. A Spanish speaker can give you good instructions, though. :)
19:37 vinz3g I have installed koha on debian squeeze and good, but to point to my browser with the IP I get a message saying "The Koha online catalog system is offline for maintenance. We'll be back soon!"
19:38 jcamins vinz3g: you need to access the staff client.
19:39 vinz3g and try using port 8080
19:39 cait yes, that right
19:39 cait you have to run the web installer - from 8080
19:39 vinz3g I say dont exist the page
19:40 jcamins vinz3g: <-- Grupo de discusi�n de Koha y MARC21 para hispanohablantes.
19:41 vinz3g I followed the instructions de[…]on_Debian_Squeeze
19:41 vinz3g ok
19:41 vinz3g sorry
19:41 jcamins vinz3g: those instructions should be good.
19:42 jcamins vinz3g: one moment while I use Google translate.
19:44 vinz3g half actually worked because I get the message of apache that said he had no content, add instructions a2dissite default sudo apache2ctl restart
19:45 jcamins Si has seguido las instrucciones de la seccion "Initial configuration", establece que la intranet para que escuche en el puerto 80 (INTRAPORT = "80"). Usted tendra que usar / etc / hosts para definir los nombres de dominio en lugar de utilizar la direccion IP.
19:45 vinz3g and then I get System maintenance
19:45 vinz3g ok
19:45 vinz3g ok
19:46 jcamins No se si eso tuviera sentido.
19:46 vinz3g si es claro
19:46 jcamins :)
19:46 vinz3g yes is clear
19:48 vinz3g actually try using the settings I have in a VM in virtualbox using the LiveDVD, but the truth is that the files do not match.
19:48 jcamins What LiveDVD?
19:50 vinz3g Koha Live DVD By Vimal Kumar V. Mahatma Gandhi University, Kerala, India.
19:50 jcamins Oh.
19:51 jcamins No se si funciona. Yo solo uso Koha + Debian desde
19:53 jcamins Yo creo que es necesario el uso de las instrucciones de Vimal Kumar si desea uso el LiveCD.
19:54 vinz3g is good but just had to use the local network configuration shown in the direction[…]ki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
19:56 vinz3g uniendo las dos, funciona el Live DVD en red local
19:56 vinz3g uniting the two, does the local network Live DVD
19:57 jcamins No entiendo exactamente lo que hizo.
19:58 jcamins Esta utilizando el LiveCD en una maquina virtual, pero que desea instalar Koha ti mismo?
19:59 vinz3g Install the LiveDVD koha and it worked but only locally, to make it work on the Intranet, I used the settings for ubuntu
19:59 jcamins Creo que entiendo.
20:00 vinz3g Pero ahora quiero instalar koha en una VPS en host1free que tiene como sistema operativo debian 6.
20:00 vinz3g But now I want to install koha on a VPS that is host1free debian operating system 6.
20:00 jcamins Ah! Entiendo. :)
20:01 jcamins Usted necesita configurar DNS.
20:02 jcamins Si usted necesita usar IP, puede editar /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha (si usted llama a su instancia "koha").
20:03 vinz3g wait  please
20:04 vinz3g # Koha instance repobib Apache config.  # OPAC <VirtualHost *:80>    Include /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf #  Include /etc/koha/apache-shared-disable.conf    Include /etc/koha/apache-shared-opac.conf     ServerName    SetEnv KOHA_CONF "/etc/koha/sites/repobib/koha-conf.xml"    AssignUserID repobib-koha repobib-koha     ErrorLog    /var/log/k
20:04 jcamins Si. En eso archivo.
20:05 jcamins Se debe tener este aspecto:
20:06 pastebot "jcamins" at pasted "vinz3g: Se debe tener este aspecto" (5 lines) at
20:07 jcamins Si la ha cambiado ya, ejecute "sudo apache2ctl restart"
20:09 jcamins Eso no fue todo el archivo. Solo una parte.
20:10 vinz3g hey
20:10 vinz3g Done
20:10 vinz3g Eres grande!
20:11 jcamins :D
20:12 vinz3g ya he trabajado varias horas, y en los tutoriales decian que era opac 80 e intranet 80, no puede ser!
20:12 vinz3g I have worked several hours, and tutorials opac said that it was 80 and intranet 80, can not be!
20:12 jcamins Bien! Ahora usted puede configurar Koha a trabajar como el LiveDVD. Utilice MARC21.
20:12 vinz3g yes
20:13 jcamins Eso fue la informacion antigua. Solia ser mas dificil de configurar.
20:13 vinz3g there is still much work to do!, but I've taken off a lot of frustration
20:14 jcamins Ya... muy facil, pero los tutoriales no se actualizan.
20:14 vinz3g change it just now to 8080, but I gave up for what they said the tutorials!
20:14 wahanui vinz3g: that doesn't look right
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20:15 vinz3g sorry
20:16 jcamins wahanui es un bot.
20:16 wahanui jcamins: sorry...
20:16 vinz3g the famous bots ho!
20:17 jcamins El tiene un error, y si dices "change..." el reinicia. :)
20:17 vinz3g I had a channel on Undernet # cyberbohemios and had two bots! :)
20:18 vinz3g they are very friendly and do not know how to thank
20:19 vinz3g contact you otherwise?
20:19 jcamins Lo mejor es usar el IRC o las listas de correo.
20:20 vinz3g ok parece que tu traductor es bueno para el español
20:21 vinz3g pues te deseo lo mejor y  muchas gracias, espero poder devolverte el favor algun día
20:21 jcamins Gracias. Yo estudie espanol cuando yo era joven.
20:21 vinz3g un saludo
20:21 jcamins :)
20:21 vinz3g perfecto
20:22 vinz3g bueno pues gracias jcamins
20:22 jcamins De nada. :)
20:22 vinz3g voy a seguir dandole a esto, pero tomare un descanso y tomaré algo a tu salud!
20:22 vinz3g bye
20:23 jcamins Bye.
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