Time  Nick           Message
00:00 jcamins_away   wajasu: nothing to do with 8622.
00:00 wajasu         i'll research that later.
00:00 jcamins_away   wajasu: it's the new theme.
00:01 jcamins_away   I'd suggest that even an imperfect theme that supports mobile is an improvement.
00:02 wajasu         its just 8622 applied.  not your new them yet.
00:02 wajasu         or is 8622 an improved prog?
00:03 wajasu         i'm reading the 8622 bug some more.
00:08 jcamins_away   wajasu: bug 8622 should not make any changes to the display.
00:08 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8622 major, P3, ---, jcamins, Needs Signoff , Koha themes broken
00:08 jcamins_away   If there's actually a problem caused by it, that's an issue.
00:08 wajasu         i'm swapping between. my mind is playing tricks so i want to verify.
00:09 jcamins_away   You'll need to force reload all the CSS/javascript every time you switch.
00:10 wajasu         how do you do that? clear caches? or a ffox setting.
00:11 jcamins_away   wajasu: shift+reload and ctrl+reload
00:12 wajasu         just want to be sure. :)
00:13 wajasu         does apache cache anything? do i need to reload it?  i'm not using memcached.
00:14 jcamins_away   Probably not.
00:14 jcamins_away   Of course, you have such a weird setup that you may have found a way to make it.
00:14 jcamins_away   ;)
00:14 * jcamins_away wanders off
00:40 wajasu         i turned on XSLT in staff client ( "default") as it instructs.  I got:
00:41 wajasu         Could not create file parser context for file "XSLT": No such file or directory at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/XSLT.pm line 217
00:42 wajasu         jcamins_away: is that an issue?
00:43 wajasu         remember i am a standard install.
00:46 wajasu         probably not. since my non patched master branch did the same error.
01:00 wajasu         but i need to get XSLT working.
01:17 wajasu         jacmins: i see 8622 depends on 8623. do i have to apply that before i apply 8622?
01:29 jcamins_away   wajasu: yes.
01:30 wajasu         which question?
01:30 jcamins_away   You need to apply 8623 before 8622.
01:30 wajasu         ok. my bad.
01:40 wajasu         jcamins: i applied 8623 Do not..., but the 8623 Move...patch didn't apply.   see Mason james notes. i tried but failed.
01:43 wajasu         i've got to grab dinner. i'll check in later.
03:58 wajasu         testing 8215
06:22 wajasu         ok got further with bug 8215
06:22 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add Course Reserves
06:25 wajasu         jcamins_away: note that Bug 8623 patch doesn't apply.  See mason's comment.  I will hold off on that 8622 until i can get 8623.
06:25 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8623 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories
06:43 mbalmer        Kohallo!
06:49 mbalmer        I updated one of my Kohas to the master branch, yet I don't see the new staff client interface.  That does not need any configuration, does it?
08:05 fredericd      could someone confirm that koha pootle web site is down?
08:08 rangi          it was last time i looked
08:08 rangi          yep still is
08:09 * fredericd    need a descent internet access to fix it (in the nex 2 hours)
08:10 rangi          cool, thanks
08:44 mbalmer        I updated via git but the new staff client does not show up.  anything I need to do besides git pull?
08:45 rangi          shift-refresh to get the new css
08:45 rangi          thats about it
08:51 mbalmer        hmm, still only in english, but no new staff client in german, that's strange
08:51 mbalmer        even after a new make, make install
08:54 rangi          neither of those will remake the templates
08:54 rangi          you will need to do a ./translate install de-CH or de-DE
08:54 rangi          to regenerate the templates
08:56 mbalmer        lots of errors in the translation strings
08:57 mbalmer        an de-CH is still unsupported in the head branch
08:58 rangi          master never gets translated
08:58 rangi          the translations are always committed on the stable branches
08:58 mbalmer        o crap, was not aware of that.
08:59 mbalmer        (we use -head for demonstrations)
08:59 rangi          you can grab the .po file from the 3.8.x branch and copy it over and try that, it will be better than what's in master
08:59 rangi          (in get speak head is the tip of any branch .. not a branch itself, just fyi)
09:00 rangi          s/get/git/
09:37 fredericd      pootle server is back
11:36 dpavlin        Can you remind me how to leave message for someone using irc bot?
11:37 jcamins        @later tell dpavlin Hi!
11:37 huginn         jcamins: The operation succeeded.
11:37 jcamins        Actually, I should've left you a message saying "No."
11:38 jcamins        It would've been much more amusing. :)
11:40 wajasu         jcamins: FYI bug 8623 is not applyable, so i couldn't proceed with testing 8622.
11:40 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8623 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Patch doesn't apply , Javascript libraries should be outside theme directories
11:41 jcamins        wajasu: yeah, I'll try and figure out what happened.
11:42 jcamins        It obviously applied for Kyle, and Master hasn't changed since then, which is kind of weird.
11:44 wajasu         i did get further with course_reserves bug 8215 though?
11:44 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8215 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Failed QA , Add Course Reserves
11:44 wajasu         are reserves the same as holdings?
11:46 jcamins        wajasu: no.
11:46 jcamins        Holdings are what a library owns.
11:46 wajasu         if one reserves an item, where would that reserve be kept?  in items? biblioitems? MARCxml?
11:46 jcamins        For course reserves?
11:46 jcamins        No idea.
11:47 wajasu         i wonder if its supposed to be integrated. i.e. same reserve management.
11:47 jcamins        In Koha, a "reserve" is a request that a book be sent to a patron as soon as possible.
11:47 jcamins        I couldn't say. You always choose the difficult patches.
11:52 wajasu         one other question? when i edit staff or OPAC XSLTDetailDisplay and XSLTResultsDisplay to "default", i get an error.  Did default work at one time?
11:53 jcamins        wajasu: still does for me.
11:54 wajasu         it wasn't for me when i was testing 8622, but probably because 8623 was needed.
11:54 jcamins        Does it work on master?
11:55 wajasu         just worked for me.
11:55 jcamins        Okay.
11:55 jcamins        Yeah, when I mark dependencies they tend to be pretty crucial. ;)
11:56 wajasu         i just wasn't used to looking for DependsOn.
11:56 jcamins        I use it heavily.
11:56 jcamins        You'll probably notice that. ;)
11:59 wajasu         oooh one of my signings passed QA :)
12:00 jcamins        :)
12:00 wajasu         bug 8706 it was
12:00 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8706 was not found.
12:00 jcamins        bug 8076?
12:00 wajasu         bug 8607
12:00 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8076 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, NEW , fines showing title twice
12:00 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8607 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , overdue_notices is broken
12:00 jcamins        :)
12:01 wajasu         but someone needs to sign 8378 for overdue notice to work again
12:01 wajasu         then i can have closure
12:01 wajasu         bug 8378
12:01 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8378 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , <fine> syntax not working on overdues anymore
12:02 wajasu         i just added that 8378 depends on  8607 :)
12:02 wajasu         i'm out of here until Monday. cheers
13:46 Oak            kia ora #koha
13:46 tcohen         hi #koha
13:46 tcohen         found a new hobby: translating koha into spanish
13:46 tcohen         and have a question
13:47 tcohen         "Basket groups" means "group of baskets"
13:47 tcohen         acquisition context
13:47 tcohen         anyone
13:47 tcohen         ?
13:49 jcamins_away   tcohen: I actually have never worked out exactly what a "basket group" is.
13:49 tcohen         me neither! but found really incosistent translations of things related to baskets in the spanish files
13:50 tcohen         thanks anyway jcamins_away
13:54 wajasu         now basket case. thats me after testing acquisitions :)
13:58 tcohen         you mean the Green DAy song?
13:58 tcohen         :-P
14:12 dpavlin        @later tell bag I'm not really on irc, it's just my irssi hanging around -- you can contact me at dpavlin@rot13.org ;-)
14:12 huginn         dpavlin: The operation succeeded.
16:36 Oak            http://developers.slashdot.org/story/12/08/18/0152237/is-mysql-slowly-turning-closed-source
16:37 slef           yes
16:40 jcamins        But the solution is not to ditch support for MySQL and everyone currently using Koha before we have working support for Postgres and a rock-solid migration plan.
16:40 Oak            :)
16:40 Oak            ‎"Oracle demonstrated what dumbasses they are with OpenOffice. The community proved there is less value in a name than Oracle want to believe."
16:41 Oak            true
16:44 jcamins        slef: did you do some work on making indexes user-configurable in an old branch? I have a vague recollection that you might have.
17:56 bornie21       hey guys I am having problems with nullmailer.The error log is displaying something like" must issue a STARTTLS command first" Please help
17:57 jcamins        bornie21: you should probably use something other than nullmailer if you're doing anything complicated.
17:57 jcamins        I use Postfix.
17:57 jcamins        Not that I could help solve any problems with Postfix, either. I just followed a guide I found on the Internet. ;)
17:59 bornie21       I guess I have to try postfix but are there any dependencies between  koha and nullmailer
17:59 jcamins        bornie21: nope. The Koha package installs nullmailer if you don't have any MTA installed, because nullmailer is the least likely to cause security problems.
18:00 jcamins        I just installed Postfix instead of nullmailer when I wanted to start using e-mail.
18:01 bornie21       I Think my problem is that I wanted to test it out using smtp.gmail.com
18:01 jcamins        Yes, that would be the single most complicated setup you could come up with.
18:01 jcamins        At least, that's my understanding.
18:02 bornie21       thanx jcamins I have unistalled and reinstalled nullmailer God knows how many times
18:03 * Oak          also uses Postfix.
18:03 jcamins        Oak: wasn't I the one who told you to use Postfix? :P
18:03 Oak            but also Googled, read and it just worked.
18:03 Oak            yes!
18:03 bornie21       any pointers to good tutorials
18:03 jcamins        postfix?
18:03 wahanui        postfix is probably found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
18:03 Oak            it was you jcamins  :)
18:04 jcamins        ^^ that's the guide we all used.
18:04 bornie21       you guys are the best will let u knw how it goes
18:10 Oak            yes!
18:10 Oak            we are :)
18:56 Oak            guten abend cait
18:56 Oak            and now good night!
18:57 cait           oh
18:57 cait           now I missed Oak
19:29 vinz3g         joint #oftc
19:29 vinz3g         join #oftc
19:31 vinz3g         hi
19:31 wahanui        what's up, vinz3g
19:31 jcamins        vinz3g: OFTC is the IRC network (though you may of course be trying to join the channel by that name). Don't forget to prefix your commands with /
19:31 vinz3g         ja, sorry :)
19:31 vinz3g         im have a problem
19:31 jcamins        With Koha, the open source ILS?
19:33 cait           hi vinz
19:33 cait           where are you from?
19:34 vinz3g         hi Im México
19:34 vinz3g         sorry no speak english
19:34 vinz3g         im translate with google
19:35 vinz3g         :)
19:35 jcamins        vinz3g: if you come during the week, we have Spanish speakers here.
19:35 vinz3g         The Koha online catalog is offline for system maintenance. We'll be back soon!
19:36 vinz3g         ok, great
19:36 jcamins        vinz3g: you have to run the updater. A Spanish speaker can give you good instructions, though. :)
19:37 vinz3g         I have installed koha on debian squeeze and good, but to point to my browser with the IP I get a message saying "The Koha online catalog system is offline for maintenance. We'll be back soon!"
19:38 jcamins        vinz3g: you need to access the staff client.
19:39 vinz3g         and try using port 8080
19:39 cait           yes, that right
19:39 cait           you have to run the web installer - from 8080
19:39 vinz3g         I say dont exist the page
19:40 jcamins        vinz3g: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/koha-es/ <-- Grupo de discusi�n de Koha y MARC21 para hispanohablantes.
19:41 vinz3g         I followed the instructions de http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_3.8_on_Debian_Squeeze
19:41 vinz3g         ok
19:41 vinz3g         sorry
19:41 jcamins        vinz3g: those instructions should be good.
19:42 jcamins        vinz3g: one moment while I use Google translate.
19:44 vinz3g         half actually worked because I get the message of apache that said he had no content, add instructions a2dissite default sudo apache2ctl restart
19:45 jcamins        Si has seguido las instrucciones de la seccion "Initial configuration", establece que la intranet para que escuche en el puerto 80 (INTRAPORT = "80"). Usted tendra que usar / etc / hosts para definir los nombres de dominio en lugar de utilizar la direccion IP.
19:45 vinz3g         and then I get System maintenance
19:45 vinz3g         ok
19:45 vinz3g         ok
19:46 jcamins        No se si eso tuviera sentido.
19:46 vinz3g         si es claro
19:46 jcamins        :)
19:46 vinz3g         yes is clear
19:48 vinz3g         actually try using the settings I have in a VM in virtualbox using the LiveDVD, but the truth is that the files do not match.
19:48 jcamins        What LiveDVD?
19:50 vinz3g         Koha Live DVD By Vimal Kumar V. Mahatma Gandhi University, Kerala, India.
19:50 jcamins        Oh.
19:51 jcamins        No se si funciona. Yo solo uso Koha + Debian desde debian.org.
19:53 jcamins        Yo creo que es necesario el uso de las instrucciones de Vimal Kumar si desea uso el LiveCD.
19:54 vinz3g         is good but just had to use the local network configuration shown in the direction http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_on_Ubuntu
19:56 vinz3g         uniendo las dos, funciona el Live DVD en red local
19:56 vinz3g         uniting the two, does the local network Live DVD
19:57 jcamins        No entiendo exactamente lo que hizo.
19:58 jcamins        Esta utilizando el LiveCD en una maquina virtual, pero que desea instalar Koha ti mismo?
19:59 vinz3g         Install the LiveDVD koha and it worked but only locally, to make it work on the Intranet, I used the settings for ubuntu
19:59 jcamins        Creo que entiendo.
20:00 vinz3g         Pero ahora quiero instalar koha en una VPS en host1free que tiene como sistema operativo debian 6.
20:00 vinz3g         But now I want to install koha on a VPS that is host1free debian operating system 6.
20:00 jcamins        Ah! Entiendo. :)
20:01 jcamins        Usted necesita configurar DNS.
20:02 jcamins        Si usted necesita usar IP, puede editar /etc/apache2/sites-available/koha (si usted llama a su instancia "koha").
20:03 vinz3g         wait  please
20:04 vinz3g         # Koha instance repobib Apache config.  # OPAC <VirtualHost *:80>    Include /etc/koha/apache-shared.conf #  Include /etc/koha/apache-shared-disable.conf    Include /etc/koha/apache-shared-opac.conf     ServerName repobib.teramx.com    SetEnv KOHA_CONF "/etc/koha/sites/repobib/koha-conf.xml"    AssignUserID repobib-koha repobib-koha     ErrorLog    /var/log/k
20:04 jcamins        Si. En eso archivo.
20:05 jcamins        Se debe tener este aspecto:
20:06 pastebot       "jcamins" at pasted "vinz3g: Se debe tener este aspecto" (5 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/124
20:07 jcamins        Si la ha cambiado ya, ejecute "sudo apache2ctl restart"
20:09 jcamins        Eso no fue todo el archivo. Solo una parte.
20:10 vinz3g         hey
20:10 vinz3g         Done
20:10 vinz3g         Eres grande!
20:11 jcamins        :D
20:12 vinz3g         ya he trabajado varias horas, y en los tutoriales decian que era opac 80 e intranet 80, no puede ser!
20:12 vinz3g         I have worked several hours, and tutorials opac said that it was 80 and intranet 80, can not be!
20:12 jcamins        Bien! Ahora usted puede configurar Koha a trabajar como el LiveDVD. Utilice MARC21.
20:12 vinz3g         yes
20:13 jcamins        Eso fue la informacion antigua. Solia ser mas dificil de configurar.
20:13 vinz3g         there is still much work to do!, but I've taken off a lot of frustration
20:14 jcamins        Ya... muy facil, pero los tutoriales no se actualizan.
20:14 vinz3g         change it just now to 8080, but I gave up for what they said the tutorials!
20:14 wahanui        vinz3g: that doesn't look right
20:15 vinz3g         sorry
20:16 jcamins        wahanui es un bot.
20:16 wahanui        jcamins: sorry...
20:16 vinz3g         the famous bots ho!
20:17 jcamins        El tiene un error, y si dices "change..." el reinicia. :)
20:17 vinz3g         I had a channel on Undernet # cyberbohemios and had two bots! :)
20:18 vinz3g         they are very friendly and do not know how to thank
20:19 vinz3g         contact you otherwise?
20:19 jcamins        Lo mejor es usar el IRC o las listas de correo.
20:20 vinz3g         ok parece que tu traductor es bueno para el español
20:21 vinz3g         pues te deseo lo mejor y  muchas gracias, espero poder devolverte el favor algun día
20:21 jcamins        Gracias. Yo estudie espanol cuando yo era joven.
20:21 vinz3g         un saludo
20:21 jcamins        :)
20:21 vinz3g         perfecto
20:22 vinz3g         bueno pues gracias jcamins
20:22 jcamins        De nada. :)
20:22 vinz3g         voy a seguir dandole a esto, pero tomare un descanso y tomaré algo a tu salud!
20:22 vinz3g         bye
20:23 jcamins        Bye.