IRC log for #koha, 2011-09-24

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05:00 Oak kia ora #koha :)
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07:53 jenkins_koha Starting build 432 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #428 1 j 5 h ago)
07:53 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6901: Add classes to XSLT detail view in OPAC <[…]e4fc8c3aeda8653a0> / Bug 6901: Add classes to XSLT detail view in STAFF <[…]fad949e12e9491571> / Fix for Bug 6884, Improve TinyMCE configuration on Koha News page <
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08:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #432: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/432/
08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6884, Improve TinyMCE configuration on Koha News page
08:42 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6901: Add classes to XSLT detail view in STAFF
08:42 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6901: Add classes to XSLT detail view in OPAC
08:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6884 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve TinyMCE configuration on Koha News page
08:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6901 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Add CSS classes/ids to OPAC and staff XSLT views
08:57 Oak Hello Brooke! :)
08:57 Brooke 0/
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09:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing a bug in the templates that will break translation <[…]54367082ffe5d3e99>
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09:35 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
09:38 magnuse rangi around?
09:38 rangi sorta
09:38 magnuse :-)
09:38 rangi watching nz thrash france in rugby
09:39 Brooke up All Blacks bebe!
09:39 magnuse just wondering : if i created more manual pages for koha-common, any chance they'd make it into 3.6?
09:39 rangi yup thats fine, its only feature freeze
09:39 magnuse cool
09:39 rangi documentation doesnt count as that ;)
09:39 magnuse yay!
09:39 Brooke reasonsdocumentationiscool
09:40 rangi they dont even count for string freeze, so you have right up until release date
09:40 magnuse i just realized i could take the page i made on the wiki, put it in a csv file and create the pages with TT ;-)
09:41 magnuse yay
09:41 rangi yup you can do
09:42 magnuse i'll have a go at it while we're at the cabin this weekend
09:42 rangi yay!
09:43 magnuse some of them might need some extra work, but it would be a start
09:43 magnuse thanks and good luck with the game - i'm off!
09:44 rangi cya later
09:44 magnuse yup
09:44 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
09:44 Brooke magnuse++
09:44 slef this cockerel is getting stuffed a bit, no?
09:45 rangi yup
09:45 slef ah timing
09:45 rangi heh
09:45 slef shall I keep saying stuff like that? ;)
09:46 rangi heh, i dont mind those tries
09:46 rangi our forwards are making mincemeat of them, thats what i like to see
09:47 * Brooke cheers at the proper talk in channel.
09:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #433: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/433/
09:47 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing a bug in the templates that will break translation
09:47 rangi cos thats what we need to do, to beat south africa
09:47 * Brooke passes out a round.
09:47 * slef just passes out
09:47 Oak :D
09:49 slef hmm nothing like a drunken Marseillaise to sound good on tv
09:49 rangi usa broke 3 of the australians, samoa should break some of the samoans, then they play each other in the quarters and break whats left
09:50 slef guessing not many in nz will be paying attention to the cycling this weekend? ;)
09:50 rangi heh not that many no :)
09:50 slef which is a shame as Julian Dean has his best chance for a bit I think
09:52 rangi hmm i wonder if its on at a time thats watchable
09:52 Brooke NBCUniversal--
09:53 slef 1000cet start I thin so borderline
09:53 Brooke I leave your lads unsupervised for 5 seconds and France scores.
09:53 rangi daylight savings starts tonight too
09:53 rangi which doesnt help
09:54 slef Brooke: you got ads during the play?
09:54 Brooke hey slef, you're done on the hack to give Chris man of the Match, right?
09:54 slef huh?
09:54 slef oic
09:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 434 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #428 1 j 7 h ago)
09:54 slef that would ROCK
09:54 Brooke no I've got a bloody infomercial *instead* of the damn game
09:55 rangi there would be a riot here
09:55 slef hehe
09:55 rangi if they put ads on during the game
09:55 slef yeah, did you see what happened here when they did by mistake?
09:55 rangi nope, what happened?
09:56 slef[…]gland-goal-advert
09:56 slef I think it got worse than that though
09:57 rangi drop goal
09:57 rangi now we are just being silly
09:57 slef yep.. 32-10
09:57 slef 42-13 at the end maybe?
09:58 rangi 15 mins, yep, they are starting to empty the benches, it will get a bit messy
09:59 * Brooke suits up.
09:59 slef don't think France will collapse though... they're not England
09:59 rangi heh
09:59 Brooke ouch
09:59 slef Brooke: do you get any games on tv? only the usa ones?
10:00 Brooke it is totally random mate
10:00 Brooke I saw the first All Blacks match
10:00 Brooke and then after that it has been a total seesaw
10:00 Brooke NBCUniversal were meant to carry it
10:00 Brooke then it was like well, it's ppv
10:00 slef like what are they showing on a Sat PM that's unmovable?
10:00 Brooke then it was like em whatevs.
10:00 Brooke it's am here
10:00 Brooke it is just 6 now
10:01 slef oh yeah
10:01 Brooke and there is literally naught on but feckin' commercials.
10:01 slef timezones--
10:01 slef bleah ppv
10:02 slef yeah that surprised me in the us... so much of our tv is us-made but it's like all on 6pm-midnight with dross the rest of the day
10:03 Brooke 57 channels and nothin' on
10:03 slef then again, we now have cbs and that's has the same show repeated at 11, 5 and 8, that sort of thing
10:04 * Brooke admits that she watches Chris Matthews twice daily as a norm.
10:04 slef which makes little sense in a country in one timezone
10:04 Brooke we can sell you Tejas if you want another timezone.
10:06 slef that another thing. UK, 60m ppl, about 59 useful free-to-air channels (says my tv), so US, 300m ppl, should have 250ish, no?
10:06 rangi hmm the decision to play 2 locks on the bench is gonna hurt now
10:07 slef messy messy
10:07 Brooke slef: it's all sorts of weird
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10:07 Brooke there is a whole slice that ought to be dedicated to first response and just isn't
10:07 Brooke then for tele there's a weird HD not HD thang goin' on
10:07 slef ohhh limping over the line, in more senses than one
10:08 rangi yup
10:08 slef Brooke: hehe. yeah, we had a live sports event on an hd channel, but it was a badly-compressed sd decoded and reencoded so worse than sd
10:09 slef they're singing "...will you be my girl?"???
10:09 rangi brother subbed off for brother
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10:09 slef are they taunting the Frenchies?
10:09 rangi :)
10:09 Brooke houliganism++
10:10 slef that was odd
10:10 Brooke slef, you needs march over to the guardian office and insist on doing their simulcast, because theirs is rubbish
10:10 rangi sneaky :)
10:11 slef rangi: what time is it there?
10:11 Brooke tenish yes?
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10:11 rangi 10:10pm, but switches to 3am at 2am
10:11 rangi so really 11:10
10:11 rangi nice!!
10:12 rangi they are trying for your 42
10:12 slef revenge... try to nz
10:12 Brooke oh noes
10:12 slef Brooke: htere are websites with streams probably
10:12 Brooke yeah find me one that isn't in the ghetto of the interwebs
10:13 slef I think
10:13 slef I don't use them much
10:13 slef too much flash/js nasties, plus I've 2000ish tv channels from most of Europe here
10:14 slef benefits of lots of small countries speaking different languages in a fairly small area :)
10:15 rangi all done
10:16 rangi 2 good games tomorrow, fiji vs samoa and argentina vs scotland
10:16 Brooke Up Scotland!
10:16 slef ok, time to start the day at 1115 ;)
10:17 rangi now the warriors vs melbourne storm in the nrl semi finals
10:17 rangi 12-6 to the warriors
10:18 slef so rangi cycling starts 10pm for you, but I suspect end will be 2am30ish
10:20 Brooke alternatively it's 24.7 if your name is Paul Waite
10:21 Brooke me swears that Alexandria uses sirsi for the 10k time.
10:23 rangi hmm cant find it live on any of my channels
10:24 slef boo
10:25 slef looking for meeja partners list
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10:27 rangi
10:27 rangi in town for the game tomorrow
10:28 slef wow the cyclung event website is impressively useless
10:29 slef heh cool bus
10:30 slef heh we're getting mccaw's statement
10:31 slef europcar nearly getting their bus wedged in whitehall place
10:35 rangi heh
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15:37 * slef waves at Oak, belatedly
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17:02 cait hi #koha
17:12 Oak hello cait
17:12 cait hi Oak
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17:37 Oak you use Debian cait ?
17:37 Oak I just set up Debian on my spare pc.
17:38 cait I use ubuntu
17:38 cait but that's kind of like the same family, right?
17:39 * jcamins is outraged.
17:39 jcamins He just went shopping for a printer with an older friend, and the salespeople were just short of abusive towards him (the friend, not jcamins).
17:41 jcamins When an older person comes into the store looking for technology, either learn about exactly what they want to do so you can make useful suggestions, or give them what they ask for.
17:42 cait hehe
17:42 Oak cait, well yes, Ubuntu is based on Debian
17:42 jcamins I just can't believe how badly he was treated.
17:42 wizzyrea jcamins: ouch
17:43 cait I was told I don't need my laser printer when I bought it
17:43 cait so it's perhaps not an age thing
17:43 Oak jcamins, did you told the sales person (politely) that his behavior is not appropriate?
17:43 Oak tell*
17:43 jcamins Oak: yeah, I don't think the message was received, though.
17:43 jcamins cait: Shari says it's the way women are treated at that kind of store, too.
17:44 cait yeah, that's probably true
17:44 * cait waves at Shari
17:44 jcamins I think it's outrageous, and any salesman who behaves like that toward a customer deserves to be unemployed, and probably shot.
17:45 Oak shot? :)
17:45 jcamins Oak: yes, like the Russian princes.
17:46 cait hm
17:46 cait I am not sure I can support death penalty for impolite sales persons
17:46 jcamins No, possibly not.
17:46 Oak he was probably some young punk... idiot. you should have gone to some other store.
17:47 jcamins Oak: we went to two. The guy at the first store refused to help at all.
17:47 cait hm any idea how to reproduce bug 6205?
17:47 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6205 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, REOPENED , not found.
17:47 Oak where *are* you?
17:47 cait i ran into that before but don't see the problem now...
17:47 cait typically
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17:48 jcamins Oak: New York, but pretty far out.
17:48 Oak ah
17:48 jcamins So going to another store would have required a trip towards the center.
17:50 jcamins And lugging a huge printer around on the subway.
17:50 Oak fun day I'd say
17:53 jcamins The experience gave me an idea for another business, anyway. A socially responsible technology personal shopper/shopping companion. Someone objective who won't receive a commission.
17:57 Oak i wonder how Brooke would have handled that salesperson...
18:00 cait talked him down
18:01 cait jcamins: reserved a domain for that yet? :)
18:03 jcamins cait: nope.
18:04 cait you should :)
18:04 cait this train is cold
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18:23 wizzyrea then how does that person make money jcamins?
18:23 wizzyrea up front cost?
18:23 wizzyrea s/cost/fee
18:23 wizzyrea also, i don't know of  tech person alive who doesn't have at least a little bias one way or another regarding tech
18:24 wizzyrea "i hate mac" "I hate PC" "Only linux for me"
18:33 jcamins wizzyrea: yeah, charge an hourly rate for going to the store.
18:34 jcamins wizzyrea: that's true, but if a Mac user comes in and says "I want to buy a new laptop, and I don't know which one," even a PC user can help them with the issue.
18:34 wizzyrea that's true
18:35 wizzyrea I'd probably suggest 2 employees: a mac/linux person, and a pc/linux person. :)
18:36 jcamins wizzyrea: oh, definitely.
18:36 jcamins wizzyrea: you'd need a bunch, actually... it's unlikely one employee is going to speak Russian, Polish, Chinese, Spanish, French, German, and English. ;)
18:36 wizzyrea hehe
18:40 jcamins Time for lunch.
18:40 jcamins BRB
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19:06 rangi morning
19:08 wizzyrea mornin
19:13 rangi hows saturday goin?
19:20 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
19:22 wizzyrea so far so good I think
19:22 wizzyrea is nap time :)
19:22 rangi :)
19:51 * jcamins should get a nap time.
19:53 rangi hehe
19:53 wizzyrea i am for enforced nap time
19:53 wizzyrea or at least offering the opportunity for it
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21:53 cait hi #koha
21:58 rangi hi cait
21:58 Oak heya cait
21:59 Oak hey rangi
21:59 cait hi Oak, hi rangi :)
21:59 Oak :)
21:59 jcamins A combination of employments one does not expect to encounter: antique dealer and race car driver.
21:59 * Oak is watching Mad Men season 2
22:00 jcamins (that is, one person who is both a race car driver and an antique dealer)
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