Time  Nick         Message
04:30 cait         hi #koha
05:00 Oak          kia ora #koha :)
07:53 jenkins_koha Starting build 432 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #428 1 j 5 h ago)
07:53 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6901: Add classes to XSLT detail view in OPAC <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=5ecbdcab931117733f68f2ae4fc8c3aeda8653a0> / Bug 6901: Add classes to XSLT detail view in STAFF <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=f297a3ecd295fe43ad4d167fad949e12e9491571> / Fix for Bug 6884, Improve TinyMCE configuration on Koha News page <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=k
08:24 * Oak        waves
08:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #432: STILL UNSTABLE in 49 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/432/
08:42 jenkins_koha * oleonard: Fix for Bug 6884, Improve TinyMCE configuration on Koha News page
08:42 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6901: Add classes to XSLT detail view in STAFF
08:42 jenkins_koha * Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 6901: Add classes to XSLT detail view in OPAC
08:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6884 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Improve TinyMCE configuration on Koha News page
08:42 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6901 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW , Add CSS classes/ids to OPAC and staff XSLT views
08:57 Oak          Hello Brooke! :)
08:57 Brooke       0/
09:00 jenkins_koha Starting build 433 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #428 1 j 6 h ago)
09:05 huginn       New commit(s) kohagit: Fixing a bug in the templates that will break translation <http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=commitdiff;h=04b413623b3e4f10cfe74a054367082ffe5d3e99>
09:38 magnuse      rangi around?
09:38 rangi        sorta
09:38 magnuse      :-)
09:38 rangi        watching nz thrash france in rugby
09:39 Brooke       up All Blacks bebe!
09:39 magnuse      just wondering : if i created more manual pages for koha-common, any chance they'd make it into 3.6?
09:39 rangi        yup thats fine, its only feature freeze
09:39 magnuse      cool
09:39 rangi        documentation doesnt count as that ;)
09:39 magnuse      yay!
09:39 Brooke       reasonsdocumentationiscool
09:40 rangi        they dont even count for string freeze, so you have right up until release date
09:40 magnuse      i just realized i could take the page i made on the wiki, put it in a csv file and create the pages with TT ;-)
09:41 magnuse      yay
09:41 rangi        yup you can do
09:42 magnuse      i'll have a go at it while we're at the cabin this weekend
09:42 rangi        yay!
09:43 magnuse      some of them might need some extra work, but it would be a start
09:43 magnuse      thanks and good luck with the game - i'm off!
09:44 rangi        cya later
09:44 magnuse      yup
09:44 Brooke       magnuse++
09:44 slef         this cockerel is getting stuffed a bit, no?
09:45 rangi        yup
09:45 slef         ah timing
09:45 rangi        heh
09:45 slef         shall I keep saying stuff like that? ;)
09:46 rangi        heh, i dont mind those tries
09:46 rangi        our forwards are making mincemeat of them, thats what i like to see
09:47 * Brooke     cheers at the proper talk in channel.
09:47 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #433: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/433/
09:47 jenkins_koha Chris Cormack: Fixing a bug in the templates that will break translation
09:47 rangi        cos thats what we need to do, to beat south africa
09:47 * Brooke     passes out a round.
09:47 * slef       just passes out
09:47 Oak          :D
09:49 slef         hmm nothing like a drunken Marseillaise to sound good on tv
09:49 rangi        usa broke 3 of the australians, samoa should break some of the samoans, then they play each other in the quarters and break whats left
09:50 slef         guessing not many in nz will be paying attention to the cycling this weekend? ;)
09:50 rangi        heh not that many no :)
09:50 slef         which is a shame as Julian Dean has his best chance for a bit I think
09:52 rangi        hmm i wonder if its on at a time thats watchable
09:52 Brooke       NBCUniversal--
09:53 slef         1000cet start I thin so borderline
09:53 Brooke       I leave your lads unsupervised for 5 seconds and France scores.
09:53 rangi        daylight savings starts tonight too
09:53 rangi        which doesnt help
09:54 slef         Brooke: you got ads during the play?
09:54 Brooke       hey slef, you're done on the hack to give Chris man of the Match, right?
09:54 slef         huh?
09:54 slef         oic
09:54 jenkins_koha Starting build 434 for job Koha_master (previous build: STILL UNSTABLE -- last SUCCESS #428 1 j 7 h ago)
09:54 slef         that would ROCK
09:54 Brooke       no I've got a bloody infomercial *instead* of the damn game
09:55 rangi        there would be a riot here
09:55 slef         hehe
09:55 rangi        if they put ads on during the game
09:55 slef         yeah, did you see what happened here when they did by mistake?
09:55 rangi        nope, what happened?
09:56 slef         http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jun/13/itv-apologises-england-goal-advert
09:56 slef         I think it got worse than that though
09:57 rangi        drop goal
09:57 rangi        now we are just being silly
09:57 slef         yep.. 32-10
09:57 slef         42-13 at the end maybe?
09:58 rangi        15 mins, yep, they are starting to empty the benches, it will get a bit messy
09:59 * Brooke     suits up.
09:59 slef         don't think France will collapse though... they're not England
09:59 rangi        heh
09:59 Brooke       ouch
09:59 slef         Brooke: do you get any games on tv? only the usa ones?
10:00 Brooke       it is totally random mate
10:00 Brooke       I saw the first All Blacks match
10:00 Brooke       and then after that it has been a total seesaw
10:00 Brooke       NBCUniversal were meant to carry it
10:00 Brooke       then it was like well, it's ppv
10:00 slef         like what are they showing on a Sat PM that's unmovable?
10:00 Brooke       then it was like em whatevs.
10:00 Brooke       it's am here
10:00 Brooke       it is just 6 now
10:01 slef         oh yeah
10:01 Brooke       and there is literally naught on but feckin' commercials.
10:01 slef         timezones--
10:01 slef         bleah ppv
10:02 slef         yeah that surprised me in the us... so much of our tv is us-made but it's like all on 6pm-midnight with dross the rest of the day
10:03 Brooke       57 channels and nothin' on
10:03 slef         then again, we now have cbs and that's has the same show repeated at 11, 5 and 8, that sort of thing
10:04 * Brooke     admits that she watches Chris Matthews twice daily as a norm.
10:04 slef         which makes little sense in a country in one timezone
10:04 Brooke       we can sell you Tejas if you want another timezone.
10:06 slef         that another thing. UK, 60m ppl, about 59 useful free-to-air channels (says my tv), so US, 300m ppl, should have 250ish, no?
10:06 rangi        hmm the decision to play 2 locks on the bench is gonna hurt now
10:07 slef         messy messy
10:07 Brooke       slef: it's all sorts of weird
10:07 Brooke       there is a whole slice that ought to be dedicated to first response and just isn't
10:07 Brooke       then for tele there's a weird HD not HD thang goin' on
10:07 slef         ohhh limping over the line, in more senses than one
10:08 rangi        yup
10:08 slef         Brooke: hehe. yeah, we had a live sports event on an hd channel, but it was a badly-compressed sd decoded and reencoded so worse than sd
10:09 slef         they're singing "...will you be my girl?"???
10:09 rangi        brother subbed off for brother
10:09 slef         are they taunting the Frenchies?
10:09 rangi        :)
10:09 Brooke       houliganism++
10:10 slef         that was odd
10:10 Brooke       slef, you needs march over to the guardian office and insist on doing their simulcast, because theirs is rubbish
10:10 rangi        sneaky :)
10:11 slef         rangi: what time is it there?
10:11 Brooke       tenish yes?
10:11 rangi        10:10pm, but switches to 3am at 2am
10:11 rangi        so really 11:10
10:11 rangi        nice!!
10:12 rangi        they are trying for your 42
10:12 slef         revenge... try to nz
10:12 Brooke       oh noes
10:12 slef         Brooke: htere are websites with streams probably
10:12 Brooke       yeah find me one that isn't in the ghetto of the interwebs
10:13 slef         livesportontv.com I think
10:13 slef         I don't use them much
10:13 slef         too much flash/js nasties, plus I've 2000ish tv channels from most of Europe here
10:14 slef         benefits of lots of small countries speaking different languages in a fairly small area :)
10:15 rangi        all done
10:16 rangi        2 good games tomorrow, fiji vs samoa and argentina vs scotland
10:16 Brooke       Up Scotland!
10:16 slef         ok, time to start the day at 1115 ;)
10:17 rangi        now the warriors vs melbourne storm in the nrl semi finals
10:17 rangi        12-6 to the warriors
10:18 slef         so rangi cycling starts 10pm for you, but I suspect end will be 2am30ish
10:20 Brooke       alternatively it's 24.7 if your name is Paul Waite
10:21 Brooke       me swears that Alexandria uses sirsi for the 10k time.
10:23 rangi        hmm cant find it live on any of my channels
10:24 slef         boo
10:25 slef         looking for meeja partners list
10:27 rangi        http://www.flickr.com/photos/4nitsirk/6177644422/
10:27 rangi        in town for the game tomorrow
10:28 slef         wow the cyclung event website is impressively useless
10:29 slef         heh cool bus
10:30 slef         heh we're getting mccaw's statement
10:31 slef         europcar nearly getting their bus wedged in whitehall place http://imgur.com/sPdsu
10:35 rangi        heh
10:42 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #434: STILL UNSTABLE in 47 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.org/job/Koha_master/434/
15:00 * Oak        waves
15:37 * slef       waves at Oak, belatedly
17:02 cait         hi #koha
17:12 Oak          hello cait
17:12 cait         hi Oak
17:37 Oak          you use Debian cait ?
17:37 Oak          I just set up Debian on my spare pc.
17:38 cait         I use ubuntu
17:38 cait         but that's kind of like the same family, right?
17:39 * jcamins    is outraged.
17:39 jcamins      He just went shopping for a printer with an older friend, and the salespeople were just short of abusive towards him (the friend, not jcamins).
17:41 jcamins      When an older person comes into the store looking for technology, either learn about exactly what they want to do so you can make useful suggestions, or give them what they ask for.
17:42 cait         hehe
17:42 Oak          cait, well yes, Ubuntu is based on Debian
17:42 jcamins      I just can't believe how badly he was treated.
17:42 wizzyrea     jcamins: ouch
17:43 cait         I was told I don't need my laser printer when I bought it
17:43 cait         so it's perhaps not an age thing
17:43 Oak          jcamins, did you told the sales person (politely) that his behavior is not appropriate?
17:43 Oak          tell*
17:43 jcamins      Oak: yeah, I don't think the message was received, though.
17:43 jcamins      cait: Shari says it's the way women are treated at that kind of store, too.
17:44 cait         yeah, that's probably true
17:44 * cait       waves at Shari
17:44 jcamins      I think it's outrageous, and any salesman who behaves like that toward a customer deserves to be unemployed, and probably shot.
17:45 Oak          shot? :)
17:45 jcamins      Oak: yes, like the Russian princes.
17:46 cait         hm
17:46 cait         I am not sure I can support death penalty for impolite sales persons
17:46 jcamins      No, possibly not.
17:46 Oak          he was probably some young punk... idiot. you should have gone to some other store.
17:47 jcamins      Oak: we went to two. The guy at the first store refused to help at all.
17:47 cait         hm any idea how to reproduce bug 6205?
17:47 huginn       04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6205 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, REOPENED , doc-head-open.inc not found.
17:47 Oak          where *are* you?
17:47 cait         i ran into that before but don't see the problem now...
17:47 cait         typically
17:48 jcamins      Oak: New York, but pretty far out.
17:48 Oak          ah
17:48 jcamins      So going to another store would have required a trip towards the center.
17:50 jcamins      And lugging a huge printer around on the subway.
17:50 Oak          fun day I'd say
17:53 jcamins      The experience gave me an idea for another business, anyway. A socially responsible technology personal shopper/shopping companion. Someone objective who won't receive a commission.
17:57 Oak          i wonder how Brooke would have handled that salesperson...
18:00 cait         talked him down
18:01 cait         jcamins: reserved a domain for that yet? :)
18:03 jcamins      cait: nope.
18:04 cait         you should :)
18:04 cait         this train is cold
18:23 wizzyrea     then how does that person make money jcamins?
18:23 wizzyrea     up front cost?
18:23 wizzyrea     s/cost/fee
18:23 wizzyrea     also, i don't know of  tech person alive who doesn't have at least a little bias one way or another regarding tech
18:24 wizzyrea     "i hate mac" "I hate PC" "Only linux for me"
18:33 jcamins      wizzyrea: yeah, charge an hourly rate for going to the store.
18:34 jcamins      wizzyrea: that's true, but if a Mac user comes in and says "I want to buy a new laptop, and I don't know which one," even a PC user can help them with the issue.
18:34 wizzyrea     that's true
18:35 wizzyrea     I'd probably suggest 2 employees: a mac/linux person, and a pc/linux person. :)
18:36 jcamins      wizzyrea: oh, definitely.
18:36 jcamins      wizzyrea: you'd need a bunch, actually... it's unlikely one employee is going to speak Russian, Polish, Chinese, Spanish, French, German, and English. ;)
18:36 wizzyrea     hehe
18:40 jcamins      Time for lunch.
18:40 jcamins      BRB
19:06 rangi        morning
19:08 wizzyrea     mornin
19:13 rangi        hows saturday goin?
19:22 wizzyrea     so far so good I think
19:22 wizzyrea     is nap time :)
19:22 rangi        :)
19:51 * jcamins    should get a nap time.
19:53 rangi        hehe
19:53 wizzyrea     i am for enforced nap time
19:53 wizzyrea     or at least offering the opportunity for it
21:53 cait         hi #koha
21:58 rangi        hi cait
21:58 Oak          heya cait
21:59 Oak          hey rangi
21:59 cait         hi Oak, hi rangi :)
21:59 Oak          :)
21:59 jcamins      A combination of employments one does not expect to encounter: antique dealer and race car driver.
21:59 * Oak        is watching Mad Men season 2
22:00 jcamins      (that is, one person who is both a race car driver and an antique dealer)