| Time |
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Nick |
Message |
| 00:18 |
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* rangi |
wanders off to meet chilts for lunch |
| 00:26 |
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* druthb |
returns, washing her hands with some strong soap to get the icky feel of the other ILS off. |
| 00:31 |
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druthb |
I'm never too big to admit when I'm wrong. SirsiDynix Unicorn is *not* the worst user interface I've ever seen, any more. |
| 00:31 |
|
Space_Librarian |
what's worse? |
| 00:32 |
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druthb |
"CyberTools for Libraries." |
| 00:32 |
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druthb |
Nasty thing. I'd not ever seen it before. |
| 00:32 |
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Space_Librarian |
that sounds like a d-grade movie |
| 00:33 |
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druthb |
I couldn't find a place to request a patron listing report! |
| 00:35 |
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druthb |
its' developers seem to think it's the best thing since the library book, but I don't see how they made any money on it. |
| 00:44 |
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druthb |
At least the MARC data is plausible and pretty straightforward. so far, anyway. |
| 00:46 |
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Space_Librarian |
so far... :) |
| 00:49 |
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druthb |
the serials data may be a little messy, but the monographs are simple simon. |
| 00:50 |
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druthb |
oooh...here's a goodie: "Politeness and consideration for others is like investing pennies and getting dollars back." --Thomas Sowell |
| 00:58 |
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* library_systems_guy |
discovered that he passes out at the sight of needles today |
| 00:59 |
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library_systems_guy |
sorry for being random and off topic |
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Space_Librarian |
library_systems_guy: shoot |
| 01:00 |
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Space_Librarian |
library_systems_guy: that's inconvenient |
| 01:00 |
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library_systems_guy |
indeed it is |
| 01:00 |
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library_systems_guy |
you end up missing a lot of programming the day you pass out |
| 01:00 |
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library_systems_guy |
apparently that is frowned upon |
| 01:01 |
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druthb |
hi, brooke. |
| 01:01 |
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druthb |
library_systems_guy: hope you're okay now! |
| 01:01 |
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Brooke |
howdy miss |
| 01:01 |
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* Brooke |
made a mean pizza. |
| 01:01 |
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library_systems_guy |
indeed |
| 01:01 |
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library_systems_guy |
thanks druthb |
| 01:01 |
|
Brooke |
holy smokes |
| 01:01 |
|
Brooke |
what did you pass out from? |
| 01:01 |
|
Brooke |
hope it was summat pleasant |
| 01:02 |
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Space_Librarian |
Brooke: did you have a piece for me? |
| 01:02 |
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library_systems_guy |
Brooke: needles and blood |
| 01:02 |
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Brooke |
lib dude: that is NOT pleasant |
| 01:02 |
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Brooke |
a yep |
| 01:02 |
|
Brooke |
it was torture of the worst sort |
| 01:02 |
|
Brooke |
but I buckled down and had one for ye ;) |
| 01:04 |
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library_systems_guy |
druthb: that biblio script has been running since lunch lol |
| 01:05 |
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Brooke |
how many records? |
| 01:05 |
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druthb |
which one? Shouldn't take that long, unless you've a bazillion recs. |
| 01:05 |
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library_systems_guy |
450K |
| 01:05 |
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Brooke |
that would be a bazillion, no? |
| 01:05 |
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library_systems_guy |
close enough i suppose |
| 01:05 |
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library_systems_guy |
lol |
| 01:05 |
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druthb |
the builder? Yeah, that one might run that long. |
| 01:05 |
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library_systems_guy |
yeah that one |
| 01:05 |
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Brooke |
ha, see I *do* think in a flowchart? |
| 01:05 |
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library_systems_guy |
and yeah i had to up the ram on my vm to 4 gigs to process it |
| 01:06 |
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druthb |
It's got a lot to do, splicing in the items and all. |
| 01:06 |
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Brooke |
How many records? If less than X, then it's problematic :P |
| 01:07 |
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library_systems_guy |
lol |
| 01:07 |
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library_systems_guy |
i can't tell where its at...its making me nervous |
| 01:08 |
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* Brooke |
crosses her fingers for ya. |
| 01:08 |
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druthb |
It should be running a counter...I program those. |
| 01:09 |
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library_systems_guy |
well...its running in the emacs dumb terminal...so i can't really read it very well |
| 01:09 |
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library_systems_guy |
lol |
| 01:09 |
|
Brooke |
go to Ocean City. Play skeeball. Come back. |
| 01:09 |
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druthb |
oh. Then Don't Do That, the doctor said. |
| 01:09 |
|
Brooke |
this is normally the super sekrit loading bar time in which druthb screws about with a certain resident of the Commonwealth. |
| 01:10 |
|
Brooke |
so you've comfortably a few hours to burn, methinks ;P |
| 01:11 |
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druthb |
when I ran that script with about 130K bibs, it ran for a skosh under three hours IIRC. So you have some time to kill. |
| 01:13 |
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druthb |
....and yeah, this is normally when I buzz off and go meet Brooke for dinner or take a snooze or something. |
| 01:15 |
|
Brooke |
(She's really paying ice cream vendors to say scandalous things.) |
| 01:15 |
|
Brooke |
(Or more like just working on ANOTHER migration.) |
| 01:17 |
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druthb |
hee hee... |
| 01:18 |
|
druthb |
how'd you know I've got three in the works this week, Brooke? |
| 01:18 |
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* Brooke |
has druthb's number. |
| 01:18 |
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druthb |
Two go-lives and a test. |
| 01:20 |
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Brooke |
I suspect there's some sort of rule that when I'm reading an article entitled Salbutamol improves diaphragm force generation in experimental sepsis for fun, I should prolly be doing medical indexing... |
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* druthb |
blinks |
| 01:28 |
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rangi |
back |
| 01:28 |
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Brooke |
welcome back |
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Brooke |
hey o bobo |
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* Oak |
waves |
| 04:09 |
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druthb |
Hi, Oak. |
| 04:12 |
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Oak |
Hello druthb :) |
| 04:29 |
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druthb |
rangi++ |
| 04:30 |
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* druthb |
staggers off to bed. |
| 04:30 |
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| 04:30 |
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rangi |
sleep well |
| 04:33 |
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| 04:33 |
|
Brooke |
kia ora |
| 04:34 |
|
Oak |
kia ora to thee dear Brooke ! |
| 04:34 |
|
Brooke |
http://koha-community.org/get-[…]d/for-librarians/ |
| 04:34 |
|
Brooke |
Contributing your custom reports |
| 04:34 |
|
Brooke |
should prolly point here: |
| 04:34 |
|
Brooke |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library |
| 04:34 |
|
Brooke |
but it 404s. |
| 04:36 |
|
Brooke |
might want to point the documentation link at: http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]g_the_Koha_Manual |
| 04:36 |
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Brooke |
but not a very sechsy wiki page atm |
| 04:36 |
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Oak |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]L_Reports_Library works |
| 04:36 |
|
Brooke |
yes |
| 04:36 |
|
rangi |
fixed the sql reports link |
| 04:36 |
|
Brooke |
but not from the first bit ;) |
| 04:36 |
|
Brooke |
thanks :) |
| 04:36 |
|
Brooke |
I would do it meself, but I can't mess with the webpage. |
| 04:39 |
|
Brooke |
I *think* I'm gonna go to sleep |
| 04:39 |
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Oak |
sleep well Brooke |
| 04:39 |
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Brooke |
hopefull I will wake up in time |
| 04:40 |
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Oak |
use alarm |
| 05:15 |
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rao |
Hi, No mails from lists.katipo.co.nz these days? Is it true? |
| 05:37 |
|
rao |
Some issues? |
| 05:38 |
|
rao |
Or some problem with my subscription? |
| 05:39 |
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rao |
knock...knock.... |
| 05:51 |
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| 05:57 |
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cait |
morning |
| 05:57 |
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Oak |
Guten Morgen Miss cait |
| 05:57 |
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cait |
Salam Oak |
| 05:57 |
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Oak |
:) |
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koha |
hi |
| 06:08 |
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koha |
I have a typical problem faced after upgrade to Koha 3.4 from 3.00 |
| 06:09 |
|
koha |
The issue is if I want to do criculation (check out or check in) there will be an error in Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2829. |
| 06:10 |
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koha |
but actal action happens, i tested this by refershing it again i works. I an not sure why that error is coming? Can anybody help on this. |
| 06:10 |
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koha |
Thanks in advance |
| 06:10 |
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cait |
have you run the scrpt to remove your items from the xml? |
| 06:10 |
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francharb |
hello |
| 06:11 |
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cait |
hi francharb |
| 06:12 |
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koha |
yes I did remove item script |
| 06:12 |
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koha |
but got uninitalization warning with m// |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
HM |
| 06:13 |
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cait |
sorry, caps lock |
| 06:14 |
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cait |
so you are not sure if it worked correctly? |
| 06:14 |
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koha |
yes cait |
| 06:14 |
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koha |
but rebuild zebra worked |
| 06:17 |
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cait |
I think I would check the marcxml field to see if the 952 fields have really been removed |
| 06:19 |
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koha |
ok how do I do that? I am a beginner to Koha |
| 06:19 |
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| 06:19 |
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alex_a |
hi there ! |
| 06:23 |
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cait |
hi alex_a |
| 06:23 |
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cait |
koha: perhapy try to ask around later - I have to leave for work |
| 06:23 |
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Oak |
Bonjour Monsieur alex_a |
| 06:23 |
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cait |
or write to the mailing list |
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koha |
hi |
| 06:29 |
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koha |
I have a typical issue let me know if any one come across following issue this observed after the upgrade to 3.4 from 3.00 |
| 06:30 |
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koha |
The issue is if I want to do criculation (check out or check in) there will be an error in Can't call method "subfield" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/Biblio.pm line 2829. |
| 06:30 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, koha. |
| 06:30 |
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alex_a |
bonjour Monsieur Oak :) |
| 06:30 |
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Oak |
heh |
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Oak |
:) |
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julian |
hello #koha |
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sophie_m |
hi #koha |
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reiveune |
hello |
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kf |
morning #koha |
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Brooke |
hoo ra! |
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* Brooke |
is alt tabbed. |
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jransom |
evening all |
| 09:00 |
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Brooke |
howdy miss |
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jransom |
heya |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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kf |
hi all |
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jransom |
hey babe |
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Brooke |
ahoy cait |
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kf |
:) |
| 09:27 |
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slef |
I may be a few mins late. how long to go? |
| 09:27 |
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kf |
30 mins |
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kf |
if I did the time conversion correctly |
| 09:28 |
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kf |
morning slef |
| 09:28 |
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slef |
yeah, so I may be walking across town then |
| 09:28 |
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slef |
hi :) |
| 09:28 |
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slef |
train arriving... biab |
| 09:29 |
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jransom |
cool - hat means i did time conversion correctly this time too |
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kf |
:) |
| 09:29 |
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Brooke |
heh good on ye |
| 09:29 |
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kf |
this time feels kind of weird |
| 09:30 |
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kf |
I think we didn't have a lot of meetings at this time |
| 09:30 |
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kf |
must be quite early for us? |
| 09:30 |
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kf |
us = US |
| 09:30 |
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Brooke |
the US can ttfu. |
| 09:31 |
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alex_a |
Does anyone know where i can find documentation about enabling SRU servers on koha ? |
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jransom |
oh thats very early for you, very late for us |
| 09:32 |
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jransom |
NZ |
| 09:32 |
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kf |
alex_a: not sure there is documentation, I know my coworker tested it though |
| 09:32 |
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Brooke |
very early is 3 ;) |
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kf |
ouch |
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Brooke |
same here, alex |
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Brooke |
don't think you can consult unwritten documentation but lemme see |
| 09:33 |
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kf |
alex_a: seemed to work he was quite happy with it |
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kf |
alex_a: I think if you didn't activate it during install you might have to change your conf xml file? |
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Brooke |
I've summat on test queries |
| 09:34 |
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Brooke |
http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_with_Solr/Lucene |
| 09:35 |
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alex_a |
kf: yes, it's what i want to know about |
| 09:36 |
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alex_a |
what to change in the koha-conf.xml file |
| 09:36 |
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Brooke |
listen options to listen on a tcp port if it's the same as 3.x |
| 09:36 |
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alex_a |
i found lot of documentations about using/quering SRU but not about enabling ... |
| 09:37 |
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Brooke |
SRU servers conf site:koha-community.org through google ;) |
| 09:39 |
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alex_a |
google ? i don't know |
| 09:39 |
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alex_a |
:p |
| 09:39 |
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Brooke |
hey, it's what you have Librarians for ;) |
| 09:40 |
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kf |
alex_a: have you checked the xml file? |
| 09:40 |
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kf |
or you could do a fresh install somewhere and activate it during install - see what it does |
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alex_a |
install is done yet |
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alex_a |
i have to check xml file |
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alex_a |
kf: oh yes i just understand what you mean :) |
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alex_a |
good idea |
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kf |
hi magnuse |
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kf |
how is vacation? :) |
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magnus_mobile |
vacation is good, but forgot my laptop so is on mobile phone. will get it tomorrow |
| 09:55 |
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Brooke |
pullin' a Cormack |
| 09:56 |
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kf |
oh, hope it's not too hard |
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jransom |
heya magnus |
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magnus_mobile |
hiya jransom |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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Brooke |
who's driving this bus? |
| 10:03 |
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magnus_mobile |
isn't there a meeting now? |
| 10:03 |
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Brooke |
a yep |
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thd |
Yes, Brooke is the only experienced driver. |
| 10:04 |
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Brooke |
not so cait is also experienced :P |
| 10:04 |
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Brooke |
but I'm more than happy to |
| 10:04 |
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Brooke |
cause that was a special circumstance |
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kf |
yep, please do |
| 10:04 |
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Brooke |
righto |
| 10:04 |
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Brooke |
#startmeeting |
| 10:04 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Jul 6 10:04:16 2011 UTC. The chair is Brooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 10:04 |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic. |
| 10:04 |
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Brooke |
Haere Mae, Haere Mae, Welcome to the Koha Community Meeting! |
| 10:05 |
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Brooke |
#topic Introductions |
| 10:05 |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions |
| 10:05 |
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kf |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ Germany |
| 10:05 |
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Brooke |
please state who ye be with a #info tag |
| 10:05 |
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jransom |
Joann Ransom HLT, NZ |
| 10:05 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 10:05 |
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jwagner |
#info Jane Wagner, LibLime/PTFS |
| 10:05 |
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rangi |
#info Chris Cormack, Catalyst IT, RM 3.6 |
| 10:06 |
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jransom |
#info |
| 10:06 |
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jransom |
#info Joann Ransom, HLT, NZ |
| 10:07 |
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jransom |
(Connor is my son - observing how koha irc meetings work) |
| 10:07 |
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magnus_mobile |
#info Magnus Enger, Libriotech, Norway |
| 10:09 |
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Brooke |
speak now or forever lurk in peace. |
| 10:10 |
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Brooke |
#topic Roadmap to 3.2 |
| 10:10 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.2 |
| 10:10 |
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Brooke |
no hdl |
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rangi |
thats chris_n anyway |
| 10:10 |
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Brooke |
ta |
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hdl |
#info Henri-Damien LAURENT |
| 10:10 |
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Brooke |
not movin' at this hour anyway, yes? |
| 10:11 |
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rangi |
nope |
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matts is now known as matts_away |
| 10:11 |
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Brooke |
anything burning to discuss about 3.2? |
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rangi |
nope |
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Brooke |
well that was simple :) |
| 10:12 |
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Brooke |
#topic Roadmap to 3.4 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.4 |
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Brooke |
Chris :D |
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rangi |
thats chris_n too |
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Brooke |
nuffin to say? |
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rangi |
not my baby anymore |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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Brooke |
anything at all on 3.4, other than stating it's been nice to see somewhat regular releases continue on? :) |
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Brooke |
#topic Roadmap to 3.6 |
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Topic for #koha is now Roadmap to 3.6 |
| 10:15 |
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Brooke |
the original Chris. |
| 10:16 |
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rangi |
Work is progressing nicely, http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ already a pile of stuff for 3.6.0 in master, and more to go in |
| 10:16 |
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Brooke |
#link http://koha-releasemanagement.branchable.com/ |
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magnus_mobile |
yay! |
| 10:17 |
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rangi |
thats about all i have, nothing new to report |
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Brooke |
righto |
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Brooke |
that brings us to |
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Brooke |
#topic KohaCon2011 |
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Topic for #koha is now KohaCon2011 |
| 10:19 |
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Brooke |
no kmkale |
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Brooke |
which is rather mystifying given it's a cherry of a time for Mumbai... |
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jransom |
and he is concerned at lack of attendance at planning meetings - hence shifting it here |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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thd |
Maybe he needs an extra reminder about these meetings and his intention of shifting. |
| 10:21 |
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thd |
Perhaps he thought we would sort the arrangements without him if he did not appear. |
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jransom |
someone should phone him up |
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Brooke |
#help find other parties in India to assist kmkale with organising |
| 10:22 |
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jransom |
do we know what the sticky bits are: |
| 10:22 |
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Brooke |
if you've volunteered to approve a paper, please do check your queue |
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jransom |
venue = sorted |
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jransom |
dates - sorted |
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jransom |
programme: have we enough abstracts? |
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Brooke |
to me, the sticky bit is the website |
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mtj |
hi peoples |
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* mtj |
waves |
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jransom |
regsitarnts: good : (150 last count) |
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jransom |
heya mj |
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Brooke |
some of the features meant to make things run smoother are causing abstract purgatory |
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jransom |
so i think its programme really |
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jransom |
and website |
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jransom |
brooke / mj: do you know the state of the prpgramme? |
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Brooke |
we had three approved abstracts |
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Brooke |
that were then taken down... |
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jransom |
is that all so far? |
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thd |
Brooke: all the way down to purgatory? |
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mtj |
were they accidentally deleted? |
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jransom |
how many more submitted? |
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Brooke |
I think there are about 8 in the queue, but I can't seem to see what I once saw on the site |
| 10:25 |
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jransom |
so 11 in total |
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BobB |
Hi #koha - just joining the meeting now. Sorry I'm late. |
| 10:25 |
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Brooke |
no problem Bob |
| 10:26 |
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jransom |
maybe we need to set the programme ie what we want presented then recruit presenters? |
| 10:26 |
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Brooke |
I think we're just about fine were everything in the queue approved, but that'd be a faulty assumption, as everything in queue might not be great. However, I don't have reservations at this point about filling time slots. |
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BobB |
#info BobB |
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jransom |
who is in charge of programme? |
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Brooke |
last I checked MJ Ray |
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Brooke |
but I'm not sure that's official |
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jransom |
ok. MJ : are you willing to be a benevolent dictator to get this show on the road? |
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* Brooke |
thinks unoffical + done > official + not done. |
| 10:28 |
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oleonard |
Not mtj, slef |
| 10:29 |
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mtj |
#info mason james. kohaaloha, nz |
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druthb |
#info D Ruth Bavousett, ByWater Solutions |
| 10:29 |
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jransom |
MJRay - who is not here yet |
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BobB |
Hi mtj |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Nelsonville Public Library |
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thd |
slef seems not to be here |
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mtj |
heya BobB :p |
| 10:30 |
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jransom |
no - hes walking somewhere off a train |
| 10:30 |
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BobB |
I just read the discussion so far. Kmkale is an apology. At the KohaCon meeting he foreshadowed that he had another commitment and would not be here tonight. |
| 10:30 |
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Brooke |
I wonder if we oughtn't be redundant at this point |
| 10:31 |
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Brooke |
I am tempted to propose that authors resubmit abstracts to the wiki |
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thd |
BobB: When is the next KohaCon meeting? |
| 10:31 |
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Brooke |
2 people sign off on each abstract |
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Brooke |
we mock a programme up from there |
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jransom |
sounds proactive |
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BobB |
There's a poll |
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Brooke |
have a look over at #link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ry_talk:KohaCon11 |
| 10:33 |
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Brooke |
BobB there's a poll for what in particular? |
| 10:33 |
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jransom |
so we could add the submitted abstracts to that list |
| 10:33 |
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BobB |
the next KohaCon11 meeting! :) |
| 10:34 |
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BobB |
It was announced on list before the weekend, iirc |
| 10:34 |
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mtj |
perhaps the KohaCon12 website admins could check no submissions were deleted from database backups |
| 10:34 |
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Brooke |
don't think they were deleted, think they were moved. |
| 10:35 |
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mtj |
hmm. ah ok... |
| 10:35 |
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jransom |
We really should aim to put together a strong programme if possible: do we have a small group prepared to take charge of this? |
| 10:35 |
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jransom |
and just get it done |
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rangi |
my only comment is i think kohacon11 has had about 20 more meetings than kohacon10 had ... time to start just doing |
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rangi |
and stop talking :) |
| 10:35 |
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jransom |
+1 |
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thd |
:) |
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jransom |
so whose up for taking charge of the programme: MJRay plus who? Brooke? Shelley? |
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BobB |
Everyone's busy. But there doesn't seem to be a local committee. Just Koustabha. |
| 10:37 |
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jransom |
Bob: It really isnt that hard to pull this together now |
| 10:37 |
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thd |
BobB: I think that is the problem |
| 10:37 |
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rangi |
yeah thats the thing lacking, and maybe something we need to make sure is understood for kohacon12 proposals |
| 10:37 |
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rangi |
if you bid to host it, you better organise it too :-) |
| 10:37 |
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jransom |
time, date, place and attendees all sorted |
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jransom |
just need a programme! |
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jransom |
i agree. but having booked and paid I not willing to take a chance on it getting organised |
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* Brooke |
doesn't care if there's a proper committee, but there better be someone on the ground that is seeing to things. |
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thd |
BobB: One person maybe a little too little for local planning without delegation to others.. |
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Brooke |
worse comes to worst, unconference in Vihang's Inn :D |
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jransom |
:) |
| 10:39 |
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Brooke |
I will review abstracts to the wiki that are not my own. |
| 10:39 |
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thd |
There should be no need for worse. |
| 10:39 |
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Brooke |
hopefully someone else *hint you* will sign off as well. |
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* slef |
= MJ Ray, software.coop, still in another meeting |
| 10:39 |
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jransom |
will we use the koha community wiki to advance the programme? |
| 10:39 |
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jransom |
yay: |
| 10:39 |
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jransom |
MJ's here :) |
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Brooke |
MJ any insight on the programme? |
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slef |
not yet. need more suggestions is the biggest need |
| 10:41 |
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Brooke |
I have suggested that anyone with an unreviewed abstract move it to the wiki for approval |
| 10:41 |
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Brooke |
2 signoffs that aren't theirs, like a bug |
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thd |
I think we should propose the wiki as an alternative for where the current software in use is failing. |
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jransom |
i second that |
| 10:42 |
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jransom |
and can someone copy submitted abstracts over? |
| 10:42 |
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slef |
Erm, or report the bug. I'll read scrollback later see if we need to act |
| 10:42 |
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BobB |
I think logistics are OK at this early stage. What's needed is: |
| 10:42 |
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BobB |
more papers (in a programme) and more sponsors. |
| 10:42 |
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BobB |
#action: I'll put another call for sponsors on the list |
| 10:42 |
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slef |
but there's only a few papers submitted so far |
| 10:42 |
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thd |
slef: Fixing the bug maybe easier and then we have everything in one place. |
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Brooke |
the bug is that papers have been sitting in purgatory for months on end at this point. |
| 10:43 |
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Brooke |
there are at least 8 when I could last see what was submitted |
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jransom |
my post asking for ideas hasnt generated any new ideas |
| 10:43 |
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thd |
Brooke: Is that a humans in the system bug? |
| 10:43 |
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slef |
yeah I thought 7 Brooke |
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Brooke |
kmkale is waiting on full papers over abstracts which frankly is not how conferences work. |
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jransom |
OMG - is he expe ting a written paper from me? |
| 10:43 |
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thd |
Ahhh.... |
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slef |
I've reviewed 2 abstracts, had nothing further from authors, I need to chase. |
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slef |
Brooke: I'm reviewing abstracts and have set ocs to work that way now (since last week) |
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thd |
jransom: kmkale may be hoping to prepare a book of conference papers as is customary for many types of conferences. |
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slef |
I need to ask kmkale if there's a nice way to contact reviewers |
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Brooke |
that is *the* last step |
| 10:45 |
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Brooke |
he's stated that he's done so twice. |
| 10:45 |
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jransom |
ok. so rocking up with a presenation the day before is not going to cut it :) |
| 10:46 |
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jransom |
(slack Kiwi's letting the side down :) |
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kf |
perhaps the written papers could be demanded once the program is set? |
| 10:46 |
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thd |
jransom: Some people who are uncertain of attendance may submit full written papers without actually attending. |
| 10:46 |
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kf |
so people know they will speak and when and how long... |
| 10:47 |
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jransom |
a set date - 2 or 3 weeks out is reasonable. would allow time for printing / burning on usb drives etc |
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* Brooke |
nods. |
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thd |
jransom: 2 or 3 weeks from when? |
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Brooke |
from conference |
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jransom |
out from conference |
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thd |
OK |
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Brooke |
which at this point is quite rapidly approaching. |
| 10:48 |
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thd |
yes it is. |
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slef |
kf++ |
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Brooke |
kf that is generally how conferences work |
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Brooke |
you submit an abstract |
| 10:49 |
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Brooke |
someone goes "Hey this sucks!" |
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Brooke |
or "Hey, this is cool." |
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Brooke |
if it's the latter, you do the full paper |
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slef |
bbl sorry |
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slef |
(back in 70) |
| 10:49 |
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Brooke |
but you build the programme on abstracts, not papers. |
| 10:49 |
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jransom |
ok. lets take that approach - kmkale might be relieved |
| 10:50 |
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Brooke |
at very least, we've a cherry of a keynote speaker. |
| 10:50 |
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jransom |
lol |
| 10:50 |
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jransom |
i cant talk for 3 days though:) |
| 10:50 |
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Brooke |
no but I can ;) |
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rangi |
ive never submitted a written paper |
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kf |
me neither |
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hdl |
oh jransom of course you can :D |
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druthb |
I have, but only once. |
| 10:50 |
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jransom |
i have twice: natinal library board of singapore and VALA |
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kf |
normally they select only a few presentations for a publication |
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magnus_mobile |
jransom: sure you can ;-) |
| 10:51 |
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jransom |
oh ok - i was being modest :) |
| 10:51 |
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rangi |
i never even write a paper :) |
| 10:51 |
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rangi |
the kind of conferences that demand full papers = conferences i dont attend |
| 10:51 |
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jransom |
o folks |
| 10:51 |
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jransom |
shall we list decisions |
| 10:51 |
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Brooke |
please |
| 10:52 |
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hdl |
Biblibre Will submit some papers on solr and latest developments. |
| 10:52 |
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jransom |
1. we will develop programme from abstracts |
| 10:52 |
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Brooke |
great thank you hdl |
| 10:52 |
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jransom |
2. programme organisers will fill gaps with recruited speakers |
| 10:53 |
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jransom |
3. slef will fix the bug in the website software |
| 10:53 |
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Brooke |
not a software bug |
| 10:53 |
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Brooke |
it's a bug between the keyboard and the monitor. |
| 10:53 |
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jransom |
4. failing that / (or as well?) we will use community wiki? |
| 10:54 |
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jransom |
5, what else? |
| 10:54 |
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Brooke |
anyone OPPOSED to using the wiki as a fallback at this point? |
| 10:54 |
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thd |
The wiki should be available as a fallback for anything. |
| 10:54 |
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thd |
People should be encouraged to use the wiki more in fact. |
| 10:55 |
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magnus_mobile |
yup |
| 10:55 |
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jransom |
5. ANyone thinking of submitting an abstract please do so asap |
| 10:55 |
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druthb |
thd++ |
| 10:55 |
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Brooke |
yup you have reservations or yup you're agreeing with thd? |
| 10:55 |
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kf |
hm, that will make the process open to everyone - not sure it's a problem if an abstract is rejected? |
| 10:55 |
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mtj |
i think we should switch to the kc.org wiki, until the kohacon12 website is stable |
| 10:55 |
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thd |
However, deferring to whomever is doing the hard work locally is reasonable. |
| 10:55 |
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jransom |
so 4: use wiki as well as |
| 10:55 |
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rangi |
mtj: kohacon11 (not 12 yet) |
| 10:56 |
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BobB |
6. Bobb will issue second call for sponsors. |
| 10:56 |
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* magnus_mobile |
agreed with thd |
| 10:56 |
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Brooke |
k #agreed http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ry_talk:KohaCon11 for new abstracts in addition to the VPM site. 2 signoffs as with a bug will approve an abstract. |
| 10:56 |
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Brooke |
are we exhausted on this? |
| 10:57 |
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druthb |
completely. |
| 10:57 |
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thd |
I hope we are :) |
| 10:57 |
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jransom |
yup |
| 10:57 |
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Brooke |
#topic kohacon 2012 |
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Topic for #koha is now kohacon 2012 |
| 10:57 |
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kf |
we should probably use #action for this or #agreed (next time) |
| 10:57 |
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kf |
is there a deadline for the proposals? |
| 10:57 |
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kf |
for kohacon2012? |
| 10:58 |
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kf |
if not we should perhaps set one so we can move on to have a poll at some point |
| 10:58 |
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magnus_mobile |
that' what i think we need to set... |
| 10:58 |
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magnus_mobile |
i added some points to the wiki page for this meeting |
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kf |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]als_for_KohaCon12 |
| 10:59 |
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magnus_mobile |
deadlines for proposals and voting |
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kf |
I thik the goal was to have the place and date ready at kohacon11? |
| 11:01 |
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magnus_mobile |
what's a reasonable deadline for proposals? |
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kf |
how long do we need for the poll? |
| 11:01 |
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jransom |
i'm going to slope off to bed folks - night all. |
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| 11:03 |
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magnus_mobile |
1st september for the proposals, 1 month for voting? |
| 11:03 |
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kf |
sounds ok to me |
| 11:04 |
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kf |
all asleep now? :) |
| 11:04 |
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thd |
We should have proposals with sufficient time to vote a year on the question a year in advance of the event. However, we may not have quite managed that. |
| 11:05 |
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Brooke |
magnus that sounds good to me |
| 11:05 |
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magnus_mobile |
anyone disagree? |
| 11:05 |
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thd |
magnus_mobile +1 |
| 11:06 |
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kf |
+1 |
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mtj |
+1 |
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Brooke |
#agreed proposals are due 1 September |
| 11:07 |
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mtj |
nice ;) |
| 11:07 |
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Brooke |
anything else on KohaCon 12? |
| 11:07 |
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magnus_mobile |
yay! |
| 11:07 |
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magnus_mobile |
agreed on deadline for voting too |
| 11:07 |
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magnus_mobile |
? |
| 11:08 |
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Brooke |
I'm gonna say so |
| 11:08 |
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thd |
magnus_mobile +1 |
| 11:08 |
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Brooke |
seeing no objections |
| 11:08 |
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BobB |
+1 |
| 11:08 |
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Brooke |
#agreed voting closes 1 October |
| 11:08 |
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kf |
+1 |
| 11:08 |
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magnus_mobile |
yay! |
| 11:08 |
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thd |
Voting does require some period of time to ensure participation. |
| 11:08 |
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mtj |
+1 |
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Brooke |
magnus++ |
| 11:09 |
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Brooke |
a month is more than enough time. |
| 11:09 |
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kf |
I think with setting up the survey we should have at least 3 weeks of time for voting |
| 11:09 |
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Brooke |
4 were set |
| 11:09 |
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Brooke |
we shall be fine. |
| 11:10 |
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* magnus_mobile |
will update the wiki once he is on a proper 'puter |
| 11:10 |
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BobB |
.. and post the lists? |
| 11:10 |
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Brooke |
anything else for KohaCon12? |
| 11:10 |
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thd |
Brooke: I had not understood that aspect of the proposal from magnus_mobile but I am fine with a 4 weeks voting period. |
| 11:10 |
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magnus_mobile |
not from me |
| 11:11 |
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BobB |
I think there shoudl be some conditions ... |
| 11:11 |
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BobB |
Like only propose if you have an organising committee and resources to organise the event... |
| 11:11 |
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BobB |
and only vote if you intend to personally attend (or at least try). |
| 11:11 |
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magnus_mobile |
one country can not host two years in a row is the only condition so far i think |
| 11:12 |
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kf |
I think Evergreen has a nice ilst |
| 11:12 |
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BobB |
kf: good find. |
| 11:12 |
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kf |
searching... |
| 11:13 |
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kf |
http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/d[…]rence_nominations |
| 11:13 |
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kf |
I think this was what I had in mind |
| 11:13 |
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Brooke |
#link http://open-ils.org/dokuwiki/d[…]rence_nominations |
| 11:14 |
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Brooke |
#idea continue not to clash with EG if possible. |
| 11:15 |
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kf |
might not all apply for us, but perhaps a good starting point |
| 11:16 |
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thd |
kf ++ |
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BobB |
yeah, its mostly pretty good. |
| 11:16 |
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magnus_mobile |
looks good |
| 11:16 |
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Brooke |
I can flesh out some things to think over |
| 11:16 |
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thd |
The last requirement about transport cost obviously cannot be applied internationally. |
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kf |
no, too hard |
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kf |
perhaps add something like international airport easy to reach? |
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kf |
cost is too difficult, too hard to evaulate too |
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Brooke |
which is one of the reasons you rotate a conference venue |
| 11:18 |
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Brooke |
another is fatigue |
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thd |
kf: Some worthy venues may be at a significant distance from an international airport. |
| 11:19 |
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Brooke |
anything further to add to bidding procedure? |
| 11:19 |
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mtj |
that EG conference page is fantastic! |
| 11:19 |
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kf |
thd: true, but good train connections might make up for that |
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thd |
kf: Proximity to an international airport may mean that the cost of accommodations would be relatively high. |
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BobB |
Its a factor to consider, rather than a mandatory condition |
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Brooke |
I agree Bob |
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kf |
thd: I didn't say anything about distance - but we are an inernational group so it should not be too hard to get to the conference venue |
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Brooke |
I think most if not all of the conditions will be suggested |
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thd |
Yes, it is certainly a factor to consider. |
| 11:21 |
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Brooke |
movin on from minutia |
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thd |
kf: It is the 'usual cost' wording which would be especially difficult to sort internationally. |
| 11:22 |
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Brooke |
#topic Global Bug Squashing Day |
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Topic for #koha is now Global Bug Squashing Day |
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Brooke |
#link http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]bug_squashing_day |
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Brooke |
do eeet. |
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Brooke |
Anything to add magnus? |
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magnus_mobile |
not really |
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Brooke |
#topic Old Business |
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Topic for #koha is now Old Business |
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thd |
kf: The intention is quite good with some more appropriate wording. |
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magnus_mobile |
it's all on the wiki, i hope |
| 11:23 |
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Brooke |
seeing none |
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Brooke |
#topic Miscellaneous |
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Topic for #koha is now Miscellaneous |
| 11:23 |
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Brooke |
random stuff goes here |
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Brooke |
#topic time and date of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now time and date of next meeting |
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Brooke |
k when next? |
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Brooke |
I am limiting time of discussion on this to ten minutes because I'm an iron fisted dictator. |
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druthb |
+1 for ten-minute topic limits. |
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* druthb |
needs caffiene. |
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magnus_mobile |
Brooke++ |
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druthb |
Brooke++ #iron-fisted dictators. |
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mtj |
i suggest '2011-08-06' |
| 11:27 |
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Brooke |
if you mean 6 August that is a Saturday |
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kf |
and time is 8 hours back I think |
| 11:28 |
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Brooke |
3 August is that Wednesday |
| 11:28 |
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Brooke |
but if you're keen on Saturday I'll let you do it, just be aware that you will not be like to have any playmates |
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mtj |
3 August 2011 at 18:00 UTC+0 |
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BobB |
I have to go. Thanks all. Good night. |
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Brooke |
cheers Bob |
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Brooke |
thanks for toughing this out |
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mtj |
no no! not saturday :) |
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Brooke |
k |
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Brooke |
any objections to 3 August 1800 UTC? |
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rangi |
hmmm shouldnt it be 0200 |
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kf |
nope +1 |
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rangi |
but i dont mind either way |
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magnus_mobile |
+1 |
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kf |
I think last was 20 for me, today is 12 - so should be 4 next |
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kf |
whatever this is in utc |
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kf |
we are doing -8 instead of +8 it seems |
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rangi |
yeah that would be 0200 |
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kf |
ok, so I agree with rangi |
| 11:31 |
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kf |
although it |
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mtj |
rangi: ah - sorry, i thought the rule was add 8 hours |
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kf |
's an evil time |
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Brooke |
for you |
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Brooke |
for kiwis, not so much :P |
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kf |
yep for me :) |
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kf |
slept through the last 4 am meeting... |
| 11:32 |
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Brooke |
so |
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rangi |
ok, im off to sleep |
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Brooke |
objections to 3 August 2 UTC? |
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mtj |
3 August 0200 UTC |
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thd |
2 UTC is less desirable for more people than other times but my effort to find times which worked for everyone did not produce a great result. |
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mtj |
no objections from me |
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mtj |
+1 |
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magnus_mobile |
no objections, but i will probably not attend... |
| 11:33 |
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thd |
Much of Europe may be on holiday in early August so perhaps we would miss fewer people than usual. |
| 11:34 |
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Brooke |
Much of Europe will be asleep at that time :P |
| 11:34 |
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* magnus_mobile |
is on holiday now ;-) |
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kf |
yep |
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kf |
more asleep than on holiday I woudl guess |
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thd |
s/on holiday/on holiday and asleep/ # :) |
| 11:34 |
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Brooke |
and the iron fisted dictator says your ten minutes is just about up! |
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kf |
oh :( |
| 11:35 |
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kf |
so, dictator set the last #agreed :) |
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Brooke |
yep |
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Brooke |
hearing nothing more brilliant |
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Brooke |
#agreed 3 August 0200 UTC |
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Brooke |
ta for coming all :) |
| 11:36 |
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thd |
Shifting by 6 hours each time may be something to consider in future. |
| 11:36 |
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magnus_mobile |
ta for chairing Brooke |
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mtj |
thanx Brooke for chairing |
| 11:37 |
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thd |
Brooke: You have identified a problem with uploading and categories on the wiki. |
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* oleonard |
is off to work. bbl. |
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thd |
Brooke: The uploading should be easy to fix. |
| 11:37 |
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Brooke |
no skin off of my nose |
| 11:37 |
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magnus_mobile |
yup, categories on the wiki are messed up |
| 11:38 |
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thd |
Brooke: When did you first notice a problem with setting the categories? |
| 11:38 |
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Brooke |
a bazillion months ago |
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Brooke |
you can sort of set them manually |
| 11:38 |
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Brooke |
but that's a bit of a bear |
| 11:38 |
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thd |
a bazillion months ago all was fine and I was using it regularly. |
| 11:39 |
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magnus_mobile |
or some plugin that turns the categories into a hierarchical list with checkboxes is not doing it's thing, to be precise |
| 11:39 |
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Brooke |
ta da there are the words I lack |
| 11:39 |
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thd |
It does still work currently except that there are extra categories which have been added by something which may have been installed. |
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magnus_mobile |
Brooke: close the meeting with the bot? |
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Brooke |
oops |
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Brooke |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Koha 3.4.2 and 3.2.10 are now available | Next IRC meeting 6 July 2011 10:00 UTC+0 | http://koha-community.org/ | This channel is logged | Pastes at http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Jul 6 11:39:50 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-07-06-10.04.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]1-07-06-10.04.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]06-10.04.log.html |
| 11:40 |
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magnus_mobile |
what is listed as categories are mostly not categories at all |
| 11:40 |
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thd |
magnus_mobile: do you have any better idea than a bazillion months ago? |
| 11:41 |
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thd |
magnus_mobile: exactly |
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magnus_mobile |
can't really remember... |
| 11:41 |
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Brooke |
winterish sound right to you Magnus? |
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thd |
magnus_mobile: Something must have changed as no one created those 'categories'. |
| 11:41 |
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Brooke |
cause I want to say it was that long... |
| 11:42 |
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magnus_mobile |
i seem to recall something was imported into the wiki. templates maybe? and then it happened... |
| 11:42 |
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nengard |
database/mysql question |
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nengard |
is biblioitem.totalissues populated? |
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nengard |
it doesn't look like it on my system ... |
| 11:42 |
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magnus_mobile |
yeah winterish |
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thd |
magnus_mobile: Do you remember what was imported? |
| 11:42 |
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magnus_mobile |
in the northern hemisphere, that is ;-) |
| 11:43 |
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thd |
I am in the north and I had not had enough time for Koha during the winter. |
| 11:43 |
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magnus_mobile |
thd: i think maybe the stuff that is now listed as categories |
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* magnus_mobile |
apologizes for slow typing on mobile phone |
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thd |
magnus_mobile: Yes but I suspect that comes from installing an extension. |
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magnus_mobile |
maybe, not sure |
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mtj |
nengard: nor for me either - an unused column perhaps? |
| 11:45 |
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thd |
My telephone number for similar big problems with the wiki +1 212-674-3783 |
| 11:45 |
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nengard |
mtj, any idea how to get totalissues - other than counting on the issues table? |
| 11:45 |
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thd |
I may not always look at email but I almost always answer the telephone. |
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nengard |
or maybe items.issues |
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magnus_mobile |
thd: noted |
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Brooke |
thd talk to galen |
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thd |
I am going to look for the source of the problem now. |
| 11:47 |
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Brooke |
he might have a better bead on this |
| 11:47 |
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thd |
Brooke: most likely |
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mtj |
nengard: my hunch is totalissues column is buggy |
| 11:48 |
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thd |
bugs are everwhere eeek :) |
| 11:48 |
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nengard |
mtj - me too |
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nengard |
reporting now |
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thd |
gmcharlt_: are you with us? |
| 11:49 |
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* magnus_mobile |
wanders out into the sunshine and hopes to see everyone on good form on global bug squashing day! |
| 11:49 |
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thd |
Brooke: blocking uploads may have had something to do with the wiki spam problem. |
| 11:49 |
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nengard |
bug 6557 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6557 normal, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , biblioitems.totalissues unused |
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Brooke |
thd: well set protections however ye need to to let me upload me shtuff when I'm logged in. |
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mtj |
nengard: mysql> select sum(issues) from items where biblionumber = 51; |
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* Brooke |
feels a left join comin' on |
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mtj |
nengard: that sql should do the same, for a bib |
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thd |
Brooke: I am merely guessing and of course there is no intention of blocking anyone who is not a spammer :) |
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nengard |
thanks mtg, it looks like the librarian wants the total issues for each item, so I didn't have to do the sum bit |
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Brooke |
k I'm going back to bid because I'm ornery. |
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thd |
Brooke: If a hammer was the only tool at hand it may have been used on the delicate cake. |
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oakivil |
so EDI never made it into 3.4 |
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oleonard |
Because the work is still in progress |
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oakivil |
is there any place where to follow its current whereabouts? |
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oleonard |
slef: Was sekjal working with you on that? |
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oakivil |
yeah |
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oakivil |
i guess i already asked them about it |
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oakivil |
sekjal: where can I find more information about the EDI module? |
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oleonard |
oakivil: sekjal is not here |
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oakivil |
so it seems |
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oakivil |
he hasnt been around in a while |
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oleonard |
oakivil: Are you hoping to help develop or test, or are you just wanting to know when it's ready? |
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oakivil |
to know when its ready |
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oakivil |
oleonard: possibly help develop it if it will be in production for years |
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oakivil |
oleonard: we definetely need to tweak it for our own needs anyway |
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oleonard |
If you're going to need to tweak it anyway then I suggest getting involved now so that your "tweaks" can be incorporated |
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oleonard |
Unless you plan on running your own branched version long-term |
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oakivil |
we are still planning our steps to move to Open Source ILS' |
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oakivil |
just finding out what modifications are needed to have Koha match our needs |
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oakivil |
and what they might cost |
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oleonard |
If EDI is a requirement then I suggest you inquire about helping to sponsor it |
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oakivil |
does LibLime have its own proprietary code? |
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oakivil |
I'm reading an article where it says the Enterprise Koha has more functionality than the community Koha? |
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oakivil |
I thought Koha is licenced as such that it cannot be branched like that |
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kf |
long story |
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kf |
I would say different featuers |
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oleonard |
LibLime bends the rules by promising to release code "soon." |
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kf |
there is a git repository now - but I think it's not the version they run for their customers |
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oleonard |
...and then not releasing code for years. |
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kf |
and there is no community |
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oakivil |
sounds dirty |
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oakivil |
so liblime is developing the EDI, so there will be no EDI for the community |
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nengard |
oakivil, there will be EDI for the community because it's being worked on |
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nengard |
it will probably be implemented differently |
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nengard |
since developers didn't see the other EDI code before starting their work |
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oakivil |
ok |
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kf |
not sure acq are the same in liblime koah and koha |
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kf |
I think they have the old acq module or get it |
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oakivil |
hmm |
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oakivil |
so what can I write about the community EDI? |
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kf |
get it being a different program |
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kf |
I think you should talk to slef and bywater |
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kf |
it's in the works |
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oakivil |
slef: where can I follow the state of the EDI you are developing? |
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nengard |
http://bywatersolutions.com/20[…]koha-edi-support/ |
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oakivil |
seen that |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'that', oakivil |
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oleonard |
oakivil: Are you hoping to track an in-progress git repo? |
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oakivil |
i presume they have some kind of project management system |
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oakivil |
where they have tasks or goals set |
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oakivil |
and % of completion |
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oleonard |
... |
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oakivil |
lika JIRA? |
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oakivil |
wiki? |
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oakivil |
but google doesnt know :D |
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oleonard |
wahanui: wiki is http://wiki.koha-community.org |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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nengard |
those questions are for sekjal and slef |
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oakivil |
hi sekjal! |
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oakivil |
been waiting for you |
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sekjal |
hi, oakivil |
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oakivil |
sekjal: where can i get to know more about the EDI module? |
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druthb |
run away, sekjal! run away! |
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oakivil |
now hold it there mister |
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sekjal |
oakivil: it's not so much a module as a series of scripts by software.coop |
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sekjal |
slef has given ByWater access to those scripts, so that we can work on integrating them with current HEAD |
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sekjal |
unfortunately, at this time, I don't have much to show. my time has been devoted to other business lately |
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slef |
yeah, it drives C4::Acquisitions |
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oakivil |
hmm |
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slef |
reacting to database and ftp stimuli |
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slef |
talk to me tomorrow when I'm not in a meeting |
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slef |
or interrogate sekjal |
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oakivil |
hmm |
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oakivil |
mhhmhhm |
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oakivil |
sekjal: do you have any established goals for the EDI? A vision, use-case plans or similar? |
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sekjal |
it should be able to handle the various EDI definitions used standard around the world. the incoming file should be uploadable to a directory, whereby Koha parses the information according to the standard into the necessary places in the database |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
sounds like we do it |
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oakivil |
so it reads the daily changes/additions from a vendor and imports them to the database |
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oakivil |
then the purchased items are actually searched from Koha's own database, instead of browsing a vendor catalog |
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oakivil |
sekjal: or am i totally lost? |
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oakivil |
sekjal: how is the purchase work? |
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oakivil |
how does* |
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sekjal |
oakivil: don't know, exactly |
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oakivil |
ok |
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kf |
sixcms-- |
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rhcl_away |
Am I late for the meeting, I wonder? |
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hdl |
rhcl: somthing like 4 hours. |
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rhcl |
oh |
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oleonard |
rhcl: 10:00 UTC+0 = 6AM EDT |
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oh |
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oleonard |
I'm sure sick of seeing "feature teasers" about "Liblime Academic Koha." Where's the mention of open source? Or has has it been agreed that it's not really open source after all? |
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kf |
chris_n: around? |
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kf |
hm, I lost track a little - what is the planned released date for 3.4.3? |
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kf |
oleonard: yeah :( |
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* Oak |
waves |
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rhcl |
oak |
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sekjal |
oleonard: jquery tablesorter question |
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Oak |
rhcl |
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oleonard |
sekjal: shoot |
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oleonard |
re: Bug 6484? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6484 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW , due date sorter on 'my summary' missing |
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sekjal |
yes. |
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sekjal |
is there any reason not to move the header sort info out of the Javascript, and into the <th>? |
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sekjal |
since the number and order of columns varies so wildly on that page? |
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oakivil |
sue liblime? |
| 15:29 |
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oakivil |
but who gets the money :D ? |
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oleonard |
sekjal: No reason not to that I know of, just haven't used that method in the past |
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sekjal |
oleonard: okay, cool. when columns keep popping in and out depending on your settings, using column numbers to designate which to sort gets iffy |
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oleonard |
Agreed. |
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sekjal |
and I didn't see another way to do the headers by ID, except to put the markup in the <th> |
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reiveune |
bye |
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rhcl |
I get the money. Pizza party at my shack upon receipt. Hackathon. With enough Lowenbrau the coders will transition nicely from Perl to Prolog, and Koha will be completely in Japanese on top of a MUMPS db. |
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matts is now known as matts_away |
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kf |
oakivil: afaik there is nothing we can sue for |
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oakivil |
rhcl: beam me up! |
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oakivil |
i thought Koha licence prevents selling as proprietary, any part somehow connected to Koha |
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oakivil |
or keeping the code to oneself |
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oakivil |
and code must be made available on request |
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kf |
I am not a license expert, but I think some people looked into that |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
i tust your verdict |
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wizzyrea |
I think you're thinking of the AGPL |
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oakivil |
cant really remeber how the licenses went |
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sekjal |
oakivil: so long as all the stuff they wrote is only hosted on their servers, not distributed to other people's machines, they can keep it closed-source |
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oakivil |
clever! |
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oakivil |
http://193.65.112.189/miscdist[…]loguing%20v03.pdf |
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oakivil |
wrapped up a preliminary raport about your cataloguing, acquisiton and authorities modules |
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oakivil |
you can read it and then mock me all you can. I can take it :D Then after i have collected the bits of my self esteem I will correct it |
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kf |
nengard++ |
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nengard |
:) |
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nengard |
on a roll |
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kf |
yeah I see it :) |
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kf |
I am waiting for my new laptop - hope to do some bug squashing on friday :) |
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kf |
but not sure when it will arrive and how long installing koha and everything else willt ake :( |
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nengard |
from 50 needing sign off down to 46 ... not sure i can test any of the others ... too many with out descriptions of the problem or the solution |
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oleonard |
new_laptop++ |
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kf |
nengard: I think we should ask some questions on them - but have not come around to do that :( |
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kf |
oleonard: I hope so :) on my old laptop loading a koha page takes 2 seconds |
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kf |
it's eight years old, time for retirement |
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oleonard |
Indeed! |
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kf |
more 3-4 seconds actually |
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kf |
bye all :) |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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cait |
ah, now I missed paul_p |
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nengard_lunch |
is there a way (jquery?) to add a link to the more menu in the staff client? |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
jquery will work |
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cait |
but I wonder if there was/is a syspref |
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cait |
you can add more links to the nav bar - I did that for one of my libraries |
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nengard |
yup, but this library wants it in the 'more' menu |
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nengard |
not the nav bar .... |
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cait |
IntranetNav |
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nengard |
yeah, i know about that one |
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nengard |
but it adds it next to More not under More |
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cait |
if it doesn't work the description is wrong |
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cait |
Show the following HTML in the More menu at the top of each page on the staff client (should be a list of links or blank): |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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nengard |
it should say 'next to the More menu" |
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cait |
hm even before the More menu |
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cait |
looks a little weird with the cart now |
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nengard |
yup |
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nengard |
agreed |
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cait |
the cart should perhaps be at the end |
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nengard |
will report a bug and fix the text |
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nengard |
for that preference |
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cait |
want me to try and figure out the jquery for you? |
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cait |
hm, I am trying |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6558] intranetnav has the wrong description <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6558> |
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nengard |
there, all fixed |
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nengard |
thanks cait, jquery would be great |
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cait |
almost there, but looks a little wrong |
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cait |
$(document).ready(function(){ |
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cait |
$("#moremenu .bd ul").append('<li><a href="/cgi-bin/koha/virtualshelves/shelves.pl">Lists again</a></li>'); |
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cait |
}); |
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cait |
will add your new link to the end of the list |
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cait |
do you need it to be at a special position in the list? |
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cait |
nengard? |
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wahanui |
i think nengard is fast |
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cait |
right :) |
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nengard |
hehe |
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nengard |
End of list is fine :) |
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nengard |
you're awesome |
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cait |
:) |
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nengard |
cait++ |
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nengard |
works lovely |
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cait |
hm missing a plugin here to check if the li was inserted at the right place |
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cait |
hi oleonard |
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* slef |
is speeding home through the midlands and west country |
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rangi |
oleonard: we should send marshall a press release about the bug sign off day, he publishes anything verbatim, best counter to the talk about liblime ils, is to talk about actual koha |
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rangi |
you know, the one people can actually download and use |
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rangi |
:) |
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oleonard |
Hey, your pragmatism is interfering with my angry ranting :P |
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cait |
morning rangi |
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wizzyrea |
ohsnap did someone just call rangi a pragmatist?! |
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cait |
I thik talking about real koha is the best thing we can do |
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rangi |
heh |
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slef |
someone should send nz some of these trains. tranzscenic is cool. SuperVoyagers are practical. |
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rangi |
track gauge here is wrong |
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rangi |
we cant have fast trains they fall off the tracks |
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rangi |
stupid narrow gauge |
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wizzyrea |
d;oh |
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wizzyrea |
d'oh |
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slef |
reguage as you replace. we did, twice IIRC. |
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slef |
SVs tilt to avoid falling off our tracks though :) |
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rangi |
yeah that would be sensible, our govt instead sold the track and trains to overseas interests who plundered it |
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rangi |
sold off most of the rolling stock |
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rangi |
forget who owns it now |
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slef |
yeah, ours too, then a later one did fun stuff to help the track co go bust and move track into a non-profit |
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slef |
probably foreign banks, like our trains |
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rangi |
most likely |
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slef |
one reguaging was done pre-nationalisation though |
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rangi |
they own most everything else |
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rangi |
I think here it would have to be done with pubkic |
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slef |
yeah 2d and kiwibank trade on not being furry nahs, don't they? |
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rangi |
public money even |
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slef |
shame their service is a bit random :-/ |
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rangi |
if we keep this current govt, they'll sell kiwibank |
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slef |
(emubank?) |
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rangi |
and the last of the power co's too |
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rangi |
they are asset sales junkies |
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rangi |
ohh its making money, quick sell it |
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rangi |
morons |
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slef |
nutty. once sold, it's hard to get back anything worth having. Privateers (including most of the news media) flame expropriation |
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rangi |
yeah |
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slef |
no chance of getting them sold to trusts? |
| 18:59 |
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slef |
= remove them from the privatisation game, if done right |
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rangi |
highly unlikely, john key is a former investment banker |
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rangi |
privitisation is always the right thing |
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rangi |
its a dogma |
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rangi |
facts and logic have no place |
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slef |
hrm, you'd think a banker would be unelectable at the mo :( |
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rangi |
yeah |
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rangi |
election this year |
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rangi |
heres hoping |
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slef |
hrm, I'd best look at the police's website, see if my home is still cordoned off :/ |
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rangi |
eeek |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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library_systems_guy |
has anybody used druthb's migration scripts for Symphony before? |
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* wizzyrea |
gets scared about slef's house being cordoned off |
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rangi |
library_systems_guy: not me, they've been used a few times tho I bet |
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rangi |
at catalyst we never touch the existing system, thats up to the library to do |
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library_systems_guy |
sad day for the library lol |
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slef |
wizzyrea: http://bit.ly/oZT7Xo and my http://identi.ca/mjray |
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rangi |
well they have the license |
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rangi |
we dont |
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rhcl |
why do I keep getting disconnected I wonder |
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wizzyrea |
slef :( |
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library_systems_guy |
thats true...its amazing how hard it is to get your own data out of a legacy system |
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slef |
but no, cordon for another day... so I'll be dodging that then ;)0 |
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wizzyrea |
slef: how small of a town constitutes a "village" in england? |
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wizzyrea |
how many residents? |
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rangi |
library_systems_guy: its unethical behaviour from the proprietary vendors .... free software ftw |
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slef |
wizzyrea: no formal definition. Parish (5 settlements) is about 3000 total IIRC |
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wizzyrea |
aha, ty |
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wizzyrea |
yea, that would be traumatic for a town that size |
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library_systems_guy |
rangi: agreed |
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wizzyrea |
I think in the entire time I lived in my hometown (about 4000 people) there was only one or two deaths that were remotely suspicious |
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wizzyrea |
everything else was accidents or natural deaths. |
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wizzyrea |
s/was/were |
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* wizzyrea |
facepalms |
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rangi |
thats what they want u to believe |
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wizzyrea |
stopit you're making me paranoid! |
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rangi |
heh |
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slef |
wizzyrea: we get 2 or 3 sus deaths a month, most are unremarkable, unreported |
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* wizzyrea |
remembers that rangi has never been to lindsborg... feels better |
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rangi |
yeah way more sus stuff if id been there |
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wizzyrea |
^.^ |
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rangi |
ok time to get up |
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rangi |
bb from the bus |
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slef |
wizzyrea: sus death = they hadn't seen a doc in3 months, here |
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slef |
I think. |
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wizzyrea |
ooo |
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slef |
these had helicopters and stuff landing on the village green, which is still taped off afaik |
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oleonard is now known as oleonard-away |
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slef |
I'm wondering whether to evade the cordon or just try riding straight through it like I did this morning :) |
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wizzyrea |
zounds |
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slef |
if you don't hear from me again, I rode through and it ended badly :) |
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slef |
well I think there must be a good 200 home inside the cordon. can't stop us all |
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wizzyrea |
you're such a rebel ;) |
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slef |
I suspect they're searching cars |
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wizzyrea |
you'll be on your bike though, right? |
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slef |
but I don't know |
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slef |
yeah, so small, armoured and mobile |
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slef |
(I left in rush hour, so wore protective nonsense) |
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wizzyrea |
huh, that's really bizarre: http://screencast.com/t/du3wdtkf0 |
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slef |
bah... I've so,me rda podcasts to listen to but no motivation right now :/ |
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slef |
wizzyrea: whassat (no browser open on phone atm) |
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wizzyrea |
it's a screencast showing the guided reports wizard, on the location limiter, it shows values that aren't in the authorized values |
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wizzyrea |
it's quite weird |
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slef |
Hmm. debug required? |
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wizzyrea |
yea, I think so |
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slef |
one for bsp? |
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wizzyrea |
mmm I don't think it's *that* big of a deal |
| 19:20 |
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wizzyrea |
certainly less critical than other days |
| 19:20 |
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wizzyrea |
s/days/bugs |
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slef |
sounds like a pita though |
| 19:21 |
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cait |
pita? |
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wizzyrea |
pita is pain in the arse |
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wizzyrea |
pita? |
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wahanui |
hmmm... pita is pain in the arse |
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slef |
wahanui: PITA is pain inthe arse |
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wahanui |
...but pita is pain in the arse... |
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wizzyrea |
pita is also a kind of bread, usually with pockets |
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wahanui |
okay, wizzyrea. |
| 19:22 |
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wizzyrea |
pita? |
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wahanui |
i guess pita is pain in the arse or a kind of bread, usually with pockets |
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slef |
heh, time and typing fail |
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cait |
lol ok |
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slef |
hrm, think the passenger next to me is alighting... biab |
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slef |
today was fun btw... socomemcon :) |
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slef |
(SOftware.COop MEMbers CONference) |
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slef |
I have a pic. mle has tons |
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sekjal |
does misc/translator/translate require any additional action to update a language's template files between 3.2 and 3.4? |
| 19:34 |
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cait |
action like? |
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slef |
can't remember sorry :( |
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cait |
for testing I used something like perl translate update de-DE |
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cait |
to see if new strings get added |
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cait |
I thik the script can do all languages at once now too |
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slef |
cait: like another command for the template language change |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
hm |
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slef |
cait: like another command for the template module change |
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cait |
sekjal: rangi will now I think, should be back |
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slef |
I mean :) |
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cait |
soon |
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cait |
yep; I think I understood :) |
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cait |
I did a lot of testing, but not sure how it was done |
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slef |
cool |
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slef |
looked silent to me, then I realised I was crossing a not spot |
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cait |
ok- now I don't understand |
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slef |
(opposite of a hotspot) |
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cait |
ah |
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slef |
no network for 200m or so |
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rangi |
I can't recall anything special, fredericd is the one to ask about translation stuffs |
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cait |
ah ok |
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cait |
probably we didn't do anything? |
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cait |
there are not that many with template strings |
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cait |
got all fuzzy I assume - because placeholders work differently now |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
yay sun is coming out |
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rangi |
shit |
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cait |
? |
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rangi |
tsunami warning |
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wizzyrea |
!! |
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cait |
:( |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.reuters.com/article[…]N1E7651IT20110706 |
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wizzyrea |
even better: http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominio[…]g-for-New-Zealand |
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rangi |
poor kermadecs |
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ibeardslee |
not good |
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wizzyrea |
those are some teensy tiny islands |
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ibeardslee |
is it just me .. or does poor old mother earth seem to be rebelling a bit more recently? |
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wizzyrea |
people live there? |
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rangi |
the ring of fire is starting to piss me off |
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rangi |
yep they do |
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rangi |
not many |
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ibeardslee |
rangi: less chilli then |
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rimshots |
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wizzyrea |
1m, big or small tsunami? |
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rangi |
small |
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* wizzyrea |
has no frame of reference for these things |
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rangi |
but still 3 feet |
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wizzyrea |
well I know about how big a meter is :) |
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rangi |
and its not a single wave |
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rangi |
it just keeps coming |
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ibeardslee |
more a surge than a wave isn't it? |
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rangi |
yeah |
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wizzyrea |
a really wide wave |
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rangi |
more like a river than a wave |
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rangi |
kermadecs are quite a way away, so most likely nothing |
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rangi |
but 7.8 |
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wizzyrea |
that is pretty epic |
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rangi |
thats gotta leave a mark |
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ibeardslee |
I did see some mention of some rattles felt in nz .. don't know if that was a separate incident or a ripple from that quake |
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rangi |
oh crap tonga |
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rangi |
hope it misses them |
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rangi |
right my stop |
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rangi |
bbiab |
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slef |
do the us or ca frack the pacififc rim? |
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slef |
wonder if that could affect it |
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cait |
hi sekjal |
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sekjal |
hi cait |
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sekjal |
sorry for disappearing; mandatory computer restart |
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slef |
right my stop... bbl |
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rangi |
http://en.securitylab.ru/lab/PT-2011-05 |
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wizzyrea |
hmm |
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wizzyrea |
nice response time though |
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rangi |
i think we did ok there, 4 days after we got the details fix was out |
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rangi |
i sent ll a patch for theirs too, they havent integrated it yet |
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ibeardslee |
compare that to other software |
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rangi |
so anyone running Liblime ILS will want to apply that patch manually |
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wizzyrea |
hm, I imagine they can't do it directly :( |
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wizzyrea |
they'd have to request it |
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cait |
hm, and they might not know they are affected |
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rangi |
we can only do what we can do, patch is based on their fork, so should apply clean |
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rangi |
thats about all i can do |
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cait |
you did good |
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ibeardslee |
http://www.geonet.org.nz/tsunami/ |
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rangi |
i think they cancelled the alert for nz now |
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jcamins_away |
Oh, I missed an IRC meeting? |
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jcamins_away |
Whoops. |
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slef |
back... cordon has fallen back 50m or so, the pub and my house are now outside it :) |
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slef |
yeah jcamins_away so did I |
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slef |
mostly |
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jcamins_away |
slef: is there rioting? |
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wizzyrea |
thank heavens... would hate for the pub to lose business ^.^ |
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slef |
jcamins_away: no, suspicious death enquiry. Let me get the links again |
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slef |
http://bit.ly/oZT7Xo and my http://identi.ca/mjray |
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jcamins_away |
Does anyone have the links to meeting logs? |
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slef |
http://librarypolice.com/koha-[…]-07-06-10.04.html |
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jcamins_away |
Yikes. |
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cait |
bye #koha |
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rangi |
cya cait |
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slef |
created http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ng,_2_August_2011 |
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slef |
interesting... http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]_2011&action=edit doesn't let me put it in the IRC Meetings category any more. Anyone know why not? thd? gmcharlt? |
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rangi |
categories are totally busted, i think thd was looking into it |
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slef |
@query categories |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3580 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Control order in which facet categories display |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=737 enhancement, P2, ---, mjr, NEW , Map of library in search system |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2399 normal, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , All status fields in the item edit interface offer two blank/null entries per dropdown instead of one |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3537 enhancement, P5, ---, chris, NEW , Option as to whether hold charges are determined by patron type or item type |
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huginn |
slef: Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4171 enhancement, P5, ---, cnighswonger, NEW , overduerules.pl needs an overhaul |
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slef |
hrm |
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wizzyrea |
you can do something like [Category|The_category] iirc |
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wizzyrea |
er |
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wizzyrea |
that might be wrong |
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slef |
oh yeah, I've seen that |
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* slef |
tests |
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slef |
done |
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slef |
wizzyrea++ |
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slef |
[[Category:IRC Meetings]] fwiw |
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jcamins_away |
slef: thanks for the logs. |
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slef |
jcamins_away: np. I needed to read them anyway. Now linked from wiki too. |
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wizzyrea |
woot, I knew it was something like that |
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wizzyrea |
magnuse++ for originally teaching me that |
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slef |
that's the original WikiWikiWay... surprised it still works in mediawiki... most of the old ways don't :( |
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jcamins_away |
WikiWikiWay? |
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Space_Librarian |
0/ |
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slef |
jcamins: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiWay |
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slef |
can someone boot sjohnson hpplnj.org off of koha-patches please? http://lists.koha-community.or[…]-July/015374.html |
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rangi |
http://stats.workbuffer.org/ircstats/ |
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bg |
heh I guess I've fallen way down that list... |
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jcamins |
Every time I get up, Myshkin steals my chair. |
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jcamins |
Every time I come back, he tries to chew on my hand. |
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slef |
heh, spot NZEU overlaps |
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