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* druthb |
got sunburnt pretty badly today at Capital Pride festival. |
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rangi |
ouch, got any aloe vera? |
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druthb |
yes. A nice thick goopy layer on my shoulders at the moment. |
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Agent_Dani |
druthb: Ouchie! |
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druthb |
yah. |
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Agent_Dani |
Remind me to slather you with my SPF 50 next time. ;) |
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Project Koha_master build #295: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/295/ |
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* fridolyn.somers: BUG4319 waiting items cannot be reserved |
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* gmcharlt: bug 5653: use itemcallnumber in bib label layouts |
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* Katrin.Fischer.83: Bug 5653: Follow-up, correction to nb-NO sample creator data |
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* frederick.capovilla: Bug 5684 : Remove all items fields from a Z39.50 record imported for acquisition. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5653 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED , default new label layout and sample data have broken call number placeholder |
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* m.de.rooy: 5860 Fixing stocknumber index |
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* Chris Cormack: Bumping database number |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5684 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Z3950 search on OCLC pulls in items (tag 952) |
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rangi |
crap, if we felt that one |
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rangi |
chch is gonna be a mess |
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wizzyrea |
oh dear |
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wizzyrea |
another earthquake? |
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mtj |
hmm, i missed it :/ |
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mtj |
just then ? |
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eythian |
wizzyrea: yeah |
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rangi |
bout 5 mins ago |
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eythian |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-pre[…]ocks-Christchurch <-- wizzyrea |
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rangi |
following on from one earlier today |
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wizzyrea |
urg! |
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eythian |
it made our building sway |
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wizzyrea |
!!!! |
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eythian |
keeping in mind we're about 1,000km away |
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eythian |
(sway very slightly, but noticable) |
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rangi |
http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/drums/ |
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wizzyrea |
oy |
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wizzyrea |
wowie, no lie |
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wizzyrea |
chch just very very unlucky this year |
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* druthb |
sees wizzyrea and goes (!) |
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rangi |
over 6 |
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rangi |
they reckon |
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Space_Librarian_ |
Well, we felt it... that's not good at all |
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rangi |
http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]ums/mqz-drum.html |
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rangi |
shift-refresh |
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eythian |
oh, 300km, not 1,000, but still... |
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wizzyrea |
oof |
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rangi |
http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]ums/wel-drum.html <-- thats us |
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wizzyrea |
that's about as far as kansas is top to bottom |
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wizzyrea |
like, here to joplin (where the recent tornado was) |
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wizzyrea |
so in my terms - that's not very far |
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* ibeardslee |
missed the sway .. but isn't complaining |
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eythian |
7th floor tends to sway a bit. |
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pauln |
wow i hadn't heard about the earlier ones |
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pauln |
didnt' feel nothing here - maybe 1550km to here |
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ibeardslee |
that last was a 6 |
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rangi |
and only 9km down Space_Librarian_ tells me |
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Space_Librarian_ |
http://geonet.org.nz/earthquak[…]kes/3528839g.html |
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rangi |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/ <-- thats a pretty heart wrenching photo |
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wizzyrea |
:( yea |
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eythian |
http://www.flickr.com/photos/e[…]65/in/photostream <-- an old photo I just re-found. |
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oakivil |
Hi folks! And greetings from Finland. I am doing a research on koha and evergreen and after setting up Koha 3.4, I have some questions about "component parts". |
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oakivil |
How does one add them? |
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oakivil |
How are they implemented in the database level? |
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eythian |
where do you see that? |
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oakivil |
see what? |
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eythian |
component parts |
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oakivil |
I don´t |
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oakivil |
but they are really important for Finnish libraries, especially music cataloguing |
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oakivil |
but they are really important for Finnish libraries, especially for music cataloguing |
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eythian |
what do they do? |
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eythian |
are they perhaps the same as authorities? |
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eythian |
liw: you're also from strange remote lands, maybe you know :) |
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oakivil |
we catalog music cd's as a main biblio, then every piece of musc is catalogued as a child biblio |
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eythian |
oh |
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eythian |
that's new in 3.4 |
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eythian |
it's called.... |
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eythian |
hrm |
| 05:57 |
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eythian |
...analytics |
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eythian |
I think |
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oakivil |
analytics? |
| 05:57 |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
I'll google on that |
| 05:58 |
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eythian |
Yeah. It's currently only set up so that you can have records for each article within a serial, but the infrastructure is there, it should be hard to extend it to more things (and I think that that's worthwhile, it's a bit limited the way it is now. But, perhaps there's some weird MARC rules or something.) |
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eythian |
*it shouldN'T be hard.... |
| 06:00 |
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oakivil |
hmm |
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oakivil |
how about displays? |
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eythian |
displays of what? |
| 06:02 |
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oakivil |
prolly easy to change too |
| 06:02 |
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oakivil |
displays of the modified data |
| 06:02 |
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oakivil |
i mean the web page which shows a listing of music items |
| 06:03 |
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oakivil |
well it ofc needs to be made by hand |
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eythian |
Oh, no idea. It's all template driven, so if you don't like what it's doing, changing it isn't a big deal. |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 06:04 |
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oakivil |
do you have any idea how those serials are built inside the database? |
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oakivil |
and the serial subrecords? how are they connected? |
| 06:04 |
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oakivil |
well maybe ill tinker with the db |
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eythian |
off the top of my head, there's a record identifier value in the parent (MARC21 field 008 or thereabouts) |
| 06:05 |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
i was tracing it to 7xx fields |
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eythian |
and then the child records include that value in their 7xx field, $w or similar |
| 06:05 |
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oakivil |
ah ok |
| 06:05 |
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eythian |
(I've never seriously done this, I just checked to see that it worked a few weeks ago) |
| 06:06 |
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oakivil |
i was wondering what was the connection in marc21 |
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eythian |
(so I know bits about it, but not a lot of detail) |
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oakivil |
can you help me with data migration? |
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eythian |
what are you migrating from? |
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eythian |
sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's a nightmare :) |
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oakivil |
PallasPro (a Finnish custom closed source ILS) using Ingres database |
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oakivil |
no database documentation available |
| 06:07 |
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oakivil |
:D |
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oakivil |
its a pain |
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oakivil |
uses FinMARC-format |
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oakivil |
we already got conversion rules from FinMarc to MARC21 |
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eythian |
the way I do it is with some scripts I made that will take the data from a CSV-like format, and produce MARC21. But these are not particularly easy to use as I've made them for myself. |
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oakivil |
but maintaining the database relations while doing the migration is the tricky part |
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eythian |
(although you're welcome to try) |
| 06:08 |
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oakivil |
we will ues USEMARCON |
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oakivil |
with a conversion packet |
| 06:08 |
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oakivil |
but the marc data needs to be normalized so the USEMARCON can use it |
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eythian |
OK. I know nothing about that. I'm usually coming from crazy systems that have pretty limited MARC knowledge. |
| 06:09 |
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oakivil |
but mainly myu interest is that, currently i am not importing any marc data to koha, but instead just fill out the necessary biblio and biblioitems tables records |
| 06:09 |
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oakivil |
to make a testing environment |
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eythian |
ah right. |
| 06:10 |
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oakivil |
with the same keys from the original database, so i can connect those biblios im importing with existing patron and loan data |
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eythian |
there's something you can run that'll convert that to MARC, I think. |
| 06:10 |
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oakivil |
now thats grand |
| 06:10 |
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oakivil |
something i was hoping for |
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* eythian |
looks for it |
| 06:10 |
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oakivil |
anyway FinMARC data needs to be converted |
| 06:11 |
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eythian |
oh bother, I think it just did items, and now item MARC fields have been removed, I think the script has gone too. |
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oakivil |
and imported but for the time being having testing material and a testing environment to convince people around Finland that THIS is a good thing is important |
| 06:11 |
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oakivil |
ok no prop |
| 06:12 |
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oakivil |
but how does the database handle those subrecord queries? |
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oakivil |
if they are hidden inside the marcxml field |
| 06:12 |
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oakivil |
its sooooo slow |
| 06:12 |
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eythian |
If you're handy with Perl, you might be able to use the ModBiblio functions to do it, they should create the marc appropriately |
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eythian |
it uses zebra, which indexes them. |
| 06:12 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 06:13 |
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eythian |
(zebra is a search engine that understands marc) |
| 06:13 |
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oakivil |
yeah i installed it and even did some research what it was about but kinda forgot :D |
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eythian |
heh |
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oakivil |
so i need to create a marcxml record which has the bare necessary fields to create subrecord links |
| 06:14 |
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oakivil |
when i add subrecords |
| 06:15 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 06:15 |
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oakivil |
can do |
| 06:15 |
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eythian |
well, just to be awkward, I think the db stores both usmarc and marcxml. |
| 06:15 |
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oakivil |
tho it'll take days of work |
| 06:15 |
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oakivil |
yeah |
| 06:15 |
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oakivil |
but i think marcxml is easier |
| 06:15 |
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oakivil |
programmatically edited with groovy xml classes |
| 06:15 |
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eythian |
yeah, I'm just afraid it might get upset it one is missing. |
| 06:15 |
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eythian |
*if |
| 06:16 |
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oakivil |
what might be missing? |
| 06:16 |
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oakivil |
you mean i must fill both marc fields? |
| 06:16 |
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eythian |
Possibly. I'm not sure exactly how it uses them. |
| 06:16 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 06:16 |
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oakivil |
well we'll see |
| 06:17 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 06:17 |
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eythian |
it might also be that if you populate the marcxml, then you can run through with ModBiblio and have it magically tidy up each record. |
| 06:17 |
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oakivil |
ok, ill google for ModBiblio |
| 06:18 |
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eythian |
well, it's a function inside koha |
| 06:18 |
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eythian |
so, you'd have to write a script to talk to it. |
| 06:18 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 06:19 |
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oakivil |
at what time do people hang around here? |
| 06:19 |
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oakivil |
like its 9:24 am here |
| 06:19 |
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eythian |
it varies. I'm surprised more Europeans aren't around yet. |
| 06:19 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 06:19 |
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eythian |
I suppose it's only 8:24 for much of it. |
| 06:20 |
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eythian |
so perhaps in half an hour |
| 06:20 |
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oakivil |
yeah |
| 06:20 |
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oakivil |
prolly |
| 06:20 |
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oakivil |
are you from nz? |
| 06:20 |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 06:20 |
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oakivil |
so its pretty late |
| 06:20 |
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eythian |
18:25, not too late |
| 06:20 |
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oakivil |
ok |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
hello, reiveune |
| 06:47 |
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oakivil |
hi all |
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reiveune |
hi |
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eythian |
ah, there we go. France is waking up ;) |
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alex_a |
hello #koha |
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oakivil |
great, we were talking with eythian about subrecords and migration |
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Ropuch |
Morning #koha |
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sophie_m |
hi #koha |
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julian |
hello! |
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eythian |
hi y'all |
| 07:01 |
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rangi |
oakivil: cait is who you want to talk to about that |
| 07:02 |
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eythian |
or kf, who is the same person :) |
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rangi |
but you can do linking with the control number and 773 w |
| 07:02 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 07:02 |
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rangi |
@marc 773 w |
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huginn |
rangi: Record control number (Repeatable) |
| 07:02 |
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oakivil |
eythian pointed that out too |
| 07:02 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 07:02 |
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matts |
hello ! |
| 07:02 |
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eythian |
rangi: it's wanted for music, and currently it's only set up for serials, AIUI |
| 07:02 |
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oakivil |
and it seems zebra does the indexing of marcxml |
| 07:03 |
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rangi |
eythian: works for anything |
| 07:03 |
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oakivil |
which is kewl since i was wondering how is marcxml queried efficiently as it is a mysql field |
| 07:03 |
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eythian |
I thought when we looked at it it required the marc item type header thingy to be correct. |
| 07:03 |
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eythian |
(where "correct" is serials) |
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oakivil |
Yeah the music people here in Finalnd are dying for those component parts |
| 07:04 |
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eythian |
rangi: also, openssl is a beast from another world. |
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rangi |
yep, but thats a quick xslt change |
| 07:04 |
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eythian |
I think one of these command lines is going to summon something inhuman. |
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eythian |
yeah |
| 07:05 |
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eythian |
especially as I have to repeat them multiple times... |
| 07:05 |
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rangi |
oakivil: yeah |
| 07:05 |
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oakivil |
hmm |
| 07:05 |
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oakivil |
It cant be that hard to make component parts available to other biblioitemtypes than SE? |
| 07:05 |
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oakivil |
It cant be that hard to make component parts available to other biblioitemtypes than SErials? |
| 07:06 |
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rangi |
no |
| 07:06 |
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rangi |
change the xslt files |
| 07:06 |
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wahanui |
rangi: that doesn't look right |
| 07:06 |
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eythian |
it won't be hard |
| 07:06 |
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eythian |
a couple of line changes |
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oakivil |
trouble is the integration with the community |
| 07:06 |
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oakivil |
i mean I can't just go and change whatever i like :D |
| 07:06 |
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rangi |
no thats no trouble either |
| 07:07 |
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paul_p_ |
hello world |
| 07:07 |
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rangi |
just send a patch |
| 07:07 |
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eythian |
personally, I don't see the point of restricting it to serials only. |
| 07:07 |
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rangi |
brb putting kids to bed |
| 07:07 |
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oakivil |
me neither |
| 07:07 |
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oakivil |
why should it even be restricted? |
| 07:07 |
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oakivil |
maybe it is optimized for serials |
| 07:07 |
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oakivil |
or it is dictated in MARC-format to be used for serials only?` |
| 07:08 |
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eythian |
no, there's no real semantic difference between serials and anything else for things like this. |
| 07:08 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 07:08 |
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eythian |
It could be. MARC is strange. |
| 07:08 |
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oakivil |
now that we got to MARC, is there any way to alter the MARC-fields of a biblioformat? |
| 07:08 |
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oakivil |
other than by creating a new format or modifying an existing one |
| 07:08 |
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eythian |
how do you mean? |
| 07:09 |
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oakivil |
i mean straight from the cataloguing section |
| 07:09 |
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oakivil |
when one adds a biblio, can he on the fly add some marc fields |
| 07:09 |
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eythian |
ah right |
| 07:09 |
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oakivil |
you can duplicate existing fiuelds |
| 07:09 |
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eythian |
well, you'll have to create a framework that allows you to do that. |
| 07:09 |
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oakivil |
but not add new ones? |
| 07:09 |
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oakivil |
ok |
| 07:09 |
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oakivil |
so its just a boolean |
| 07:10 |
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eythian |
there's a bunch of things, but it boils down to that yeah |
| 07:10 |
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oakivil |
yeah, theres always a bunch of things. I miss the times when all I knew was java and arrays :D |
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eythian |
heh |
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eythian |
it's more a case that there's things like where to show, whether it's repeatable, and so forth. |
| 07:11 |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
i like the administrative section, where you can modify so many system values |
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eythian |
yeah, everyone needs something different, so it all goes in there. |
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oakivil |
Anyone know anything about the off-line mode? or the library bus mode? |
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that is one of the key issues here in Finland as well |
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oakivil |
in addition to the importance of subracords |
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oakivil |
Mainly do they exists |
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eythian |
there is some form of offline mode, but I don't know anything about it. |
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eythian |
yay, finally got apache working with a test client cert. Now to get the information from that into Koha... |
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eythian |
rangi: you about? |
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rangi |
yep |
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eythian |
oh, I think I worked it out, nm |
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eythian |
just trying to remember how to pass cert values into perl |
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rangi |
ahh i think i put that in the bug in bugzila |
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rangi |
yay kristina is signing her mail now |
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rangi |
gpg++ |
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eythian |
rangi: you didn't, but that's OK :) |
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eythian |
see also: Bug 5576 :) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5576 enhancement, P5, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , Access Koha via SSL |
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eythian |
> That's not to say that one couldn't envision scenarios where a library would want to use client certificates, but unless the library is a spooky three-letter-agency, a public-facing OPAC is not a likely use case for that. |
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eythian |
our three letter agency isn't all that spooky :) |
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rangi |
yeah :) |
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rangi |
4 letter one is but |
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eythian |
(it's the four letter ones we've got to worry about ;) |
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eythian |
also, bags not setting up Koha for GCSB ;) |
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rangi |
heh |
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eythian |
SSLOptions +StdEnvVars is the magic I need I think |
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rangi |
sweet |
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eythian |
now just need to figure how to get the email address out... |
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rangi |
the code in C4/Auth is set to use the cn and match that to the userid field in koha |
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eythian |
yep, I think we need to match it to the email. |
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eythian |
though, it's hard to tell |
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rangi |
if we use the email, it will have to do something more elaborate, like match the email, then find the userid and set that |
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rangi |
easiest thing to do do for now |
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rangi |
get C4/Auth.pm to do a Data::Dumper of $ENV |
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rangi |
and then see what you get :) |
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eythian |
Unfortunately, I don't know how their certs are set up in that respect. |
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rangi |
probably need to get one of them to look at the opac tomorrow |
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rangi |
and check the log |
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eythian |
damn, with pki turned on, I have to log in for every page load. |
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rangi |
yep |
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eythian |
which I suppose makes sense |
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eythian |
> Welcome, Mr Robin Sheat |
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eythian |
it works with CN on my test cert :) |
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rangi |
sweet, the cn matches your username? |
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eythian |
yeah |
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rangi |
awesome |
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eythian |
oh crap, I'll lock myself out if I don't give myself super permissions... |
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rangi |
yes, you will :) |
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rangi |
worst comes to worst, cna change your userid in the db |
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eythian |
oh, I have the apache config open |
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rangi |
and login as another user |
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eythian |
hmm |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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rangi |
hi cait |
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eythian |
I gave myself super librarian but I only have a couple of things. |
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eythian |
and it says "Insecure" at the top |
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rangi |
hm interesting, ill have to have a look tomorrow |
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eythian |
yeah, I'm going to turn it all off now and go. |
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eythian |
hi cait |
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cait |
another eq? :( |
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rangi |
yep |
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eythian |
Christchurch fell over again |
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Oak |
guten tag cait |
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eythian |
rangi: oddly, but helpfully, saving prefs seems to bypass the authentication. |
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rangi |
sounds like a bug |
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eythian |
yeah. I'm not going to fix it now, as it'd cause me more problems than it'd solve :) |
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eythian |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/nationa[…]atest-information <-- cait |
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eythian |
http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]ums/mqz-drum.html <-- also |
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cait |
t |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
eythian: you can do component parts |
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cait |
reading the logs |
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wahanui |
reading the logs is not the same as participating. |
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cait |
eythian: not mark them as a serial but as 'set' - that's already in there |
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rangi |
cait: it was oakivil asking but that is good information :) |
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cait |
ah, he is still here |
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rangi |
i knew you would know the answer |
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cait |
not hard - I programmed it |
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cait |
we do that for multivolume things |
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cait |
have a set record and one for each volume |
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cait |
or have a record for a traced series and one for each item in the traced series |
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cait |
oakivil? |
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rangi |
yep that makes sense |
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cait |
not sure it makes sense - but our data is structured that way |
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cait |
;) |
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cait |
ouch, reading back the logs I found your links :( |
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rangi |
hmmm |
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rangi |
http://en.securitylab.ru/ |
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cait |
hm? |
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rangi |
still havent heard back, and now the site appears to be down |
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cait |
ah, I could access the main page, but I see now what you mean |
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oakivil |
ping! |
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oakivil |
had a nap |
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oakivil |
:D |
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cait |
hi oakivil |
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oakivil |
so |
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oakivil |
a set record you say |
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cait |
yes |
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oakivil |
you mean a framework type? |
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cait |
and the control number from 001 from the set record links to the $w |
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cait |
no |
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oakivil |
so you mean marc fields? |
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cait |
yes |
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oakivil |
ok |
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oakivil |
then zebra indexes them |
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cait |
you would want to have a marc framework with the needed subfields configured perhaps |
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oakivil |
yeah |
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cait |
yes, it indexes the $w fields, in the set record a link "show volumes" is shown |
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cait |
and when you click on it you get a list of the linked records |
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oakivil |
so if i create a framework with those fields, then zebra indexes the relations between parent and subrecord |
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oakivil |
then when in OPAC i look for a music item, it creates the item and subrecords |
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oakivil |
well I gotta try that |
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oakivil |
I'm not at the office now because IRC doesn't work there. Crappy public sector intranets |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
I should really provide some documentation for that :( |
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oakivil |
having a remote work day to IRC with you guys and browse university library e-publications |
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oakivil |
yeah |
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oakivil |
i couldnt find it from the documentation |
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cait |
I have a few test records that you could load and take a look at |
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oakivil |
that would be great |
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cait |
can you pm me your email? |
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cait |
I will send it a little later - it's family breakfast time now. :) |
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rangi |
hi druthb |
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druthb |
hi, rangi. |
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cait |
hi druthb :) |
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druthb |
:D |
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cait |
hm peter lorimer again on patches |
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jcamins |
Hello, everyone. |
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cait |
hi jcamins |
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rangi |
yeah, unfortunately not any of them are in a form that is usable |
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oakivil |
Koha has been in development for over 10 years right? The technologies at the very core must be ancient, like CGI-scripts. How have you managed to keep Koha modifiable as there are lots of developers working on it constantly? The trend with old systems (developed in Agile manner) is that the older they get, the harder it is to maintain the codebase. |
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rangi |
agile smagile, when koha was started that was called rapid prototyping |
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rangi |
inline documentation, the same way you make any code maintainable |
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oakivil |
we can call it rapid prototyping if it makes you feel better :D |
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oakivil |
ok |
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rangi |
its all just fads, whatever you call it :) strict adherence to any of them is a bad idea |
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rangi |
http://perldoc.koha-community.org/ |
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rangi |
plus unit tests |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]ter/HTML_Report/? |
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rangi |
and continuous integration testing |
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rangi |
http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/job/Koha_master/ |
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rangi |
(the linux kernel is older btw :)) |
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oakivil |
damn, you've really got everything set up in a textbook manner |
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oakivil |
now that explains why I have trouble with it all the time :D |
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oakivil |
<3 Lucid Lynx |
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oakivil |
*<3 Natty Narwhal |
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mib_cait |
hmpf |
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mib_cait |
pidgin refuses to reconnect |
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mib_cait |
magnus_away: ping |
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jcamins |
Anyone running latest Master? |
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Oak |
Hello druthb :) |
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druthb |
hi, Oak! :) |
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Oak |
:) |
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oakivil |
Do you have any idea where to look for documentation about setting up multi-library koha installation? |
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oakivil |
how is it done in practice? |
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oakivil |
if we had say six libraries and every one had their separate installation |
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oakivil |
they could adminster their own fines and loan dates |
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oakivil |
but how can they loan from other libraries catalogs? |
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jcamins |
oakivil: use separate branches. |
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oakivil |
hmm |
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oakivil |
so then I had 6 branches running on the same server? |
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oakivil |
on the same database |
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oakivil |
and every branch could have their libraries |
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jcamins |
You have a separate branch for each library. |
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oleonard |
Happy Monday #koha |
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druthb |
HI, owen. :) |
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jcamins |
Alas, look what we have come to! |
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jcamins |
Not only does my cat drink from my glass of water, my wife's plants get water from my glass, too! |
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oleonard |
Hey, wb jcamins |
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jcamins |
Thanks. |
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jcamins |
Also, we come home to find that Shari's desktop is screwed up. |
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gmcharlt |
@quote random |
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huginn |
gmcharlt: Quote #134: "<cait> birthday wishes go over crazy bugs :)" (added by gmcharlt at 06:49 PM, May 20, 2011) |
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mib_cait |
@quote random |
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huginn |
mib_cait: Quote #97: "chris_n shakes his fist (again) in the direction of Redmond" (added by wizzyrea at 03:21 PM, October 08, 2010) |
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mib_cait |
hi gmcharlt |
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kivilahtio |
can somebody kick oakivil and me because my mIRC crahsed and now my first nick (oakivil) wont autoexit |
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kivilahtio |
hmm, not necessary. The process is still running ? |
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tcohen |
hi |
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Oak |
hello tcohen : |
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Oak |
:) |
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tcohen |
anyone has added 863 subfields to their serials frameworks? |
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mib_cait |
@marc 863 |
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huginn |
mib_cait: [Described in full under field 863 in the MARC 21 Concise Format for Holdings Data.] (Repeatable) [] |
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sekjal |
mfhd? |
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wahanui |
mfhd is MARC Format for Holdings Data |
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sekjal |
tcohen: nothing added to the frameworks yet, but that's going to need to happen soon... especially if we want to enable MFHD importing into serials |
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tcohen |
thanks sekjal, one question on that |
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tcohen |
the structure is very similar to that in 853 right? |
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tcohen |
or which is the difference |
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sekjal |
there is one 853 for many 863s |
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sekjal |
853 defines the captions and patterns |
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sekjal |
863s are the instances of those patterns (individual serials issues) |
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sekjal |
that structure is repeated between 854/864 and 855/865 for supplementary material and indexes, respectively |
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tomascohen |
sorry sekjal, internet failed here |
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tcohen |
if i'm not wrong, the problem would be defining that fields semantics |
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tcohen |
? |
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rhcl |
There is no life before 9:00am on Monday. |
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sekjal |
tcohen: right, there is not quite enough info in the 853 to completely fill in the Koha subscription record, and not necessarily enough in the 863 add a serial entry for that subscription |
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tomascohen |
is this topic on an RFC? or bugzilla? |
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tomascohen |
If I undesrtood it better I might spend some days working on it |
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raosoma |
hi |
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sekjal |
tcohen: should be an RFC |
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sekjal |
we've also got to think of some kind of UNIMARC equivalent, if there isn't one already |
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raosoma |
means.. |
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raosoma |
i have a question about circulation rules.. |
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raosoma |
can anyone help me out? |
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oleonard |
We won't know until you ask raosoma |
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raosoma |
:-) |
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raosoma |
this is for a private circulation lib |
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raosoma |
and want to restrict users take only two books... |
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raosoma |
and one magaizne.... |
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raosoma |
I was able to restrict the checkouts for two books but how to do that for periodicals.. |
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oleonard |
You have to have a separate item type for periodicals |
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tcohen |
raosoma: you can set a limit for books, another for serials and a global one |
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raosoma |
Three Books Plan Books 3 10 0.00 0 0 0 0 0 0.000000 Delete |
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raosoma |
Well let me explain... |
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raosoma |
I have defined one patron category as "3 books one magazine" plan |
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raosoma |
and defined two rules against this category... |
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raosoma |
first rule: number of books (item types) allowed as 3 |
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raosoma |
2nd rule against the same category: number of continuing resources checkout allowed as 1... |
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raosoma |
is it the way to do? |
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mib_cait |
yes |
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mib_cait |
but you must make sure that your periodicals and books all hve items with the correct itypes of course |
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raosoma |
and i have another patron category called three books... |
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raosoma |
and i defined a rule saying the checkouts to be allowed only 3... |
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raosoma |
and it works... |
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raosoma |
but it allows to checkout the periodicals also... |
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raosoma |
how to restrict that... |
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mib_cait |
ah |
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mib_cait |
add a rule saying 0 allowed |
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raosoma |
will it work... |
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mib_cait |
it should |
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raosoma |
may be not defining will allow to checkout... |
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mib_cait |
I do it that way for our libraries |
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raosoma |
o great... |
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raosoma |
ok i will try... |
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raosoma |
and i have one more question about serials... |
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mib_cait |
not sure what happens when you don't define anything, would have to test that |
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raosoma |
ok.. |
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mib_cait |
but if you also add default rules, you might get unintended results |
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mib_cait |
with the 0 rule you are on the save side |
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raosoma |
ok got it.. |
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raosoma |
:-) yes true... |
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raosoma |
a question about serials... |
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raosoma |
when i receive from subscription module...how to add corresponding item? |
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mib_cait |
you have to activate add items in the subscription |
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raosoma |
how to tag example a volume 4, number 5 to a particular periodical... |
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mib_cait |
you can have both - subscriptions without addings items (I think this is the default) and subscriptions adding items |
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raosoma |
or it just becomes an item of that particular biblio |
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mib_cait |
when you have it activated the item will be generated when you add the issue |
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mib_cait |
yes, it's added tothe biblio of the serial |
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raosoma |
but how to map it to a particular issue or number... |
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raosoma |
example: there is a monthly magazine of volume 100, number 4 representing april.. |
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mib_cait |
there is a subscription tab showing all issues and holding information for your library, it's always only one record that can have items |
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mib_cait |
I am not sure I understand your question |
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raosoma |
i received vol 100, no 4...then i add item after receiving... |
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mib_cait |
if you are using the serials module the information will be in the holdings information or visible in the itmes |
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raosoma |
but i don't get a mapping of that later... |
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mib_cait |
and the item didn't show up? |
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mib_cait |
mapping? |
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mib_cait |
there are some bugs in serials in the current version - which version are you using? |
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raosoma |
3.2.9 |
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mib_cait |
ok |
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raosoma |
i meant creating an item for serials is like creating an item for any biblio record... |
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raosoma |
i didn |
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mib_cait |
can you explain about the mapping you expected? |
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raosoma |
ok...you have to read with patience :-) |
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mib_cait |
you can create items in the serials module too - but basically it's the same |
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mib_cait |
the information about the issue is kept in an item field - serials enumeration/chronology I think |
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raosoma |
i have added one monthly subscription and it is now ready to receive... |
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raosoma |
it allows me to add item... |
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raosoma |
example i received vol 100, num 4 |
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mib_cait |
when you received it, did you get a form to add an item? |
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raosoma |
it asks for it"click here to add item" |
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mib_cait |
ok |
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mib_cait |
what you normally do is, change the status of the issue to 'arrived' and the form will open |
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mib_cait |
you can also use the link |
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raosoma |
yes... |
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mib_cait |
and when you fill that out it should create an item attached to the record of your serial |
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raosoma |
and then i set home lib etc., give a barcode and select "continuing resources"..and create it... |
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raosoma |
am i correct? |
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raosoma |
let's assume vol 100, issue 4 has barcode MAG10004 |
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mib_cait |
yes |
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raosoma |
now i get another month book...and i receive it for vol 100, number 5 |
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raosoma |
and i create item with another barcode MAG10005... |
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rhcl |
ping wizzyrea |
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raosoma |
if i don't follow the above way barcoding, i cannot make out which barcode is against which number... |
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raosoma |
means MAG10004 is against vol 100, number 4 or vol 100, number 5? |
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mib_cait |
momphone |
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raosoma |
sorry? |
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raosoma |
hope you got what i mean? |
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mib_cait |
not sure I really get it |
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mib_cait |
and have a phone call, one moment |
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raosoma |
ok... |
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raosoma |
let me type while you answer your phone call.. |
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raosoma |
there are two magazines say of apr and may...for which items are created against a subscription... |
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raosoma |
now how to differentiate the item created whether is of apr or may? |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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rhcl |
hi brooke |
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Brooke |
homie g! |
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Brooke |
how's it? |
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raosoma |
hi mib_cait: are you there... |
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rhcl |
it is |
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mib_cait |
raosoma: ther eis a field that should have the information |
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mib_cait |
952 h |
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mib_cait |
it's not kept in the barcode field, barcode is just a number |
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mib_cait |
952 h - I tink it's labelled serial enumeration or chronology |
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mib_cait |
it should be auto filled from your subscription |
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mib_cait |
it's shown in opac detail and on the holds screen |
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mib_cait |
s |
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raosoma |
952h? nothing is autofilled while i create an item. am i missing? |
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raosoma |
yes there is something like that... |
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raosoma |
but how to get it filled automatically... |
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mib_cait |
if it doesn't fill right now that might be a bug |
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mib_cait |
bug 6305 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6305 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, colin.campbell, NEW , The serials are not working properly |
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mib_cait |
I fixed it for 3.4 |
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raosoma |
ok... |
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tcohen |
sekjal: 853 defines a pattern and 863 should present subfields accordingly? |
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raosoma |
can i have patch in 3.2.9 |
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mib_cait |
until it fills you can copy the information from the line above the item form |
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raosoma |
is it available? |
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raosoma |
i didn |
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mib_cait |
the patch is available - but only for a later version |
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raosoma |
i didn't understand... |
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mib_cait |
not sure it's really what you see |
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raosoma |
what to copy? |
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mib_cait |
above the item form |
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mib_cait |
the line where you change to 'arrived' |
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sekjal |
tcohen: yes, the subfields in 863 correspond to the subfields in 853 |
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mib_cait |
the first field |
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mib_cait |
of that line |
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mib_cait |
I would copy that in the item field |
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mib_cait |
so if the autofill works later, it will just work and your other items will look all the same |
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raosoma |
what to copy? |
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raosoma |
something like vol 100, num 4? |
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mib_cait |
yes |
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mib_cait |
but that in the serial enumeration field |
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raosoma |
means 952h? |
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mib_cait |
yes |
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raosoma |
ok... |
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raosoma |
let me check... |
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raosoma |
3.4 it fiils auto? |
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raosoma |
thanks a lot... |
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raosoma |
time to go home... |
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raosoma |
thank you very much mib_cait.. |
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mib_cait |
ok |
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mib_cait |
have a nice evening |
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mib_cait |
:) |
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raosoma |
where are you from? |
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mib_cait |
Germany |
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raosoma |
me from india... |
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raosoma |
have a great day... |
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mib_cait |
you too :) |
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raosoma |
bye |
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oleonard |
Hi two atzes |
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rhcl |
atz^2 :) |
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rhcl |
@seen rangi |
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huginn |
rhcl: rangi was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 30 minutes, and 50 seconds ago: <rangi> (the linux kernel is older btw :)) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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Oak |
\o |
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cait |
hi Oak :) |
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Oak |
hello cait |
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Oak |
guten abend :) |
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* cait |
looks for druthb |
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cait |
:) |
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Agent_Dani |
Hi cait |
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Oak |
her name, is neo!!! |
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cait |
huh? |
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Oak |
never mind cait ... that was stupid joke |
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Oak |
obviously |
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oleonard |
cait: Matrix movie reference |
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Oak |
seen Matrix? |
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wahanui |
I haven't seen 'Matrix', Oak |
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oleonard |
You should, wahanui. But stop after the first one. |
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sekjal |
the Animatrix is kind of fun... |
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sekjal |
good soundtrack, at the very least |
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Oak |
yup, sekjal Death In Vegas- Hands Around My Throat |
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cait |
yep, I kno matrix |
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Oak |
show us |
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cait |
but didn't get the reference :( |
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Oak |
another matrix reference cait.. ignore |
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Oak |
cait, did you watch it in English> |
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Oak |
uh oh. that may sound like a bad question |
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cait |
no, only in german so far |
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Oak |
tch tch |
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Oak |
why, your english is awesome |
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Oak |
or were you being sarcastic? |
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cait |
no, but when the movie came out my english was not so good :) |
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Oak |
ah |
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Oak |
night |
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slef |
@seen gmcharlt |
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huginn |
slef: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> @quote random |
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slef |
gmcharlt: can we do anything to help fix email on the wiki server? |
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slef |
or thd-away if you're around? |
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slef |
@seen thd |
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huginn |
slef: thd was last seen in #koha 9 weeks, 3 days, 9 hours, 31 minutes, and 53 seconds ago: * thd sleeps |
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slef |
that's one heck of a sleep |
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gmcharlt |
slef: as far as I know email from the wiki is now passing through, and it's blocking the pattern of addresses that most of the spam accounts were using |
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slef |
gmcharlt: oh right. bug 6326 wasn't updated. Can anyone here test it for us by signing up on http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ecial:OpenIDLogin or http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Special:UserLogin please? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6326 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Mail not going out from Wiki |
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raosoma |
hi |
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raosoma |
can any one help me in configuring email in 3.2.9 koh |
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raosoma |
a |
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oleonard |
raosoma: If you're talking about configuring the server to send email you may be better off in a forum for your particular server software |
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raosoma |
Mail::Sendmail 0.79 |
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raosoma |
is the perl module that got installed.. |
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raosoma |
oleonard: sorry, i didn't understand.. |
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sekjal |
has anyone else noticed that 856s are not showing up in the OPAC details page with XSLT turned off (on current HEAD) |
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oleonard |
sekjal: I believe someone was asking about that on the list the other day |
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sekjal |
looks like a TT issue |
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sekjal |
MARCURLS in the perl, MARCurlS in the template |
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sekjal |
reporting bug... |
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rangi |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi |
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* cait |
waves |
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talljoy |
morning |
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jwagner |
rangi, are your family members OK in Christchurch? I heard there was another quake. |
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rangi |
yep, no deaths or serious injuries this time, lots more damage tho |
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jwagner |
Good news/bad news.... |
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rangi |
my aunt and uncle and grandma are fine |
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oleonard |
Christchurch can't get a break |
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jwagner |
Good night, all |
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rangi |
its got months/years more of aftershocks |
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rangi |
the problem of a country that straddles two plates |
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wizzyrea |
they're not creeping their way north are they? |
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wizzyrea |
the earthquakes |
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rangi |
wizzyrea: wellington lies on a bunch of major fault lines |
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rangi |
its due an 8 |
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wizzyrea |
scary |
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rangi |
but course no one can predict when |
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rangi |
with an 8 its not worth worrying about |
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wizzyrea |
yea, stuff's gonna be messed up, just be prepared to survive it |
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rangi |
just make sure you have your emergency stuff stocked and hope u are in the right place |
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rangi |
on to happier news, its the wellington perl mongers quiz night tonight |
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talljoy |
party on! |
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rangi |
its nz, so there will of course be beer |
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cait |
no surprise :) |
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cait |
have fun |
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rangi |
My stop be back after coffee |
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rangi |
back |
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rhcl_away |
wizzyrea et al: there was an email on 9 June from Catherine Chambers Mzuzu University asking about fines notices. I don't see that anybody replied to it. I could tell her about the scripts themselves, but probably better that someone else explain how to set them up in the staff interface. |
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Brooke |
kia ora |
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rangi |
rhcl: you were after me earlier? |
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rangi |
ata marie Brooke |
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Brooke |
morena, rangi |
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rhcl |
forgot why :) |
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rangi |
:) |
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rhcl |
actually, I've been off IRC for a few days, and I think I was going to ask about the situation there in NZ with the earthquakes, but I see that subject was discussed above. |
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rangi |
http://www.geonet.org.nz/earth[…]oric-earthquakes/ <-- we get some big ones |
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library_systems_guy |
is anybody else having problems with list not saving? |
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rhcl |
Is there anything or anybody on Chatham Island? (tsunami danger?) |
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Brooke |
yes |
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Brooke |
on two of them |
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cait |
hi Brooke |
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Brooke |
:D |
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Brooke |
Wie geht's? |
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rangi |
rhcl: no tsunami danger, but ppl live there |
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rangi |
rhcl: my suburb has lines painted on the road, get above this line if you want to live |
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rhcl |
well |
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Brooke |
Who wants to chair tomorrow's meeting? |
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sekjal |
I may be late, or even miss the meeting... got to catch a bus right then, and I don't know about it's wifi situation |
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Brooke |
0/ |
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ashimema |
Is the translate site down.. or is it just me? |
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rangi |
just you i think |
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http://translate.koha-community.org/ |
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ashimema |
ooh. patients is a virtue... works agian now :p |
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Brooke |
up but slow as from over hyah |
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ashimema |
fiar enough |
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ashimema |
(i think maybe i should stop now with the typos creeping in anyway :P) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 6497: MARC URLs not showing up in OPAC detail page with XSLT off <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]bdaa5a8bb44726cbd> |
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jenkins_koha |
Starting build 296 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS) |
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huginn |
New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6483] Paging in opac-detail when coming from a search <http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6483> |
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library_systems_guy |
has there been any other talks of integrating shiboleth? |
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rangi |
not that i can recall |
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library_systems_guy |
dang...i remember sekjal talking about it being a rumor |
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rangi |
wouldnt be that hard to do |
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library_systems_guy |
maybe i can start that. I just don't really have a lot of experience with it |
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rangi |
having a crack is a good way to get experience :) |
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library_systems_guy |
thats true |
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library_systems_guy |
so if i wanted to start coding for it...where would I start |
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library_systems_guy |
its not a bug |
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rangi |
make a bug, but mark it enhancement |
| 22:05 |
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library_systems_guy |
but i guess i can submit features...ok :) |
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library_systems_guy |
do i need to do a wiki for it? |
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rangi |
then look at C4/Auth/pm and C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm |
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library_systems_guy |
ahh yes i know C4/auth_with_ldap.pm well |
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jenkins_koha |
Project Koha_master build #296: SUCCESS in 43 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]/Koha_master/296/ |
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jenkins_koha |
ian.walls: Bug 6497: MARC URLs not showing up in OPAC detail page with XSLT off |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6497 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, ian.walls, ASSIGNED , MARC URLs not showing up in OPAC Detail page with XSLT turned off |
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slef |
library_systems_guy: one of my colleagues wants to do that. I think we've other fish to fry first, sadly (and I don't know who to use to test it but that's a minor problem) |
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slef |
@query shibboleth |
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huginn |
slef: No results for "shibboleth." |
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slef |
bleah |
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mtj |
slef: still about? |
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mtj |
have u setup 3m self-check units with koha before? |
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mtj |
... or am i getting that confused with the 3m RFID kit |
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rangi |
http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]i-bin/progress.pl |
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rangi |
in prep for global sign off day |
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mtj |
sweet :) |
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mtj |
would be a nice stat to automate a graph for |
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rangi |
i can give you an api to grab the raw data, if you want to graph it |
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mtj |
yeah - ill have a wack, if you do :) |
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rangi |
2 secs |
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slef |
mtj: yeah, I shouldn't be. |
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slef |
mtj: yes, 3m self-check units are most of our head-banging in that line. |
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slef |
rangi: I don't understand it. :) |
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rangi |
its just a count of status changed per day |
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mtj |
slef: quick Q? raw sockets or telnet connections for the self-check? |
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rangi |
so 30/11/2010 7 bugs changed status to pushed |
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rangi |
1/12/2010 15 went to needs signf off, and 9 got pushed |
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rangi |
etc |
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slef |
rangi: ok, it's the "to" bit that was missing |
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rangi |
yep |
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rangi |
sorry ill write some more words |
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rangi |
mtj: http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ress.pl?type=json |
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slef |
"Bugs changing to each status"? |
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rangi |
yeah that works |
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rangi |
done |
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mtj |
too quick :) |
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slef |
mtj: looks like telnet BICBW |
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mtj |
oooh, new acronym |
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slef |
But I Could Be Wrong |
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slef |
it's 1am here |
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slef |
BICBW is But I Could Be Wrong |
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mtj |
yep, gotcha |
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slef |
do you really trust my reading of XML :) |
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slef |
mtj: I was teaching wahanui |
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slef |
BICBW? |
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wahanui |
BICBW is But I Could Be Wrong |
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mtj |
thanks, im testing with telnet here |
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mtj |
its going ok-ish.... |
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mtj |
the sipserver output files make it a little tricky to debug, initially |
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slef |
Glad it's going OK. I'll be back in some hours. |
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slef |
I must signoff now before I get qwertyitis |
