IRC log for #koha, 2011-04-30

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00:55 brendan_ rangi - happy weekend ;)
01:00 rangi heya brendan_
01:00 wahanui brendan_ is a big fan of koha or the best boss evar!
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01:03 brendan_ heh
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01:05 druthb o/
01:06 rangi hey druthb
01:07 druthb hi, rangi. :)
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01:43 rhcl HI ho Hi Ho, it's off to home we go
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03:09 jcamins_away rangi: ooh, that replaces the sessions table?
03:09 * jcamins_away thought it had something to do with sysprefs.
03:13 jcamins_away Grr. My computer is messing with its routing tables all by itself.
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04:07 Oak \o
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07:13 adnc rangi, ping
07:47 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6141] html glitches causing problems to translator <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6141> / [Bug 6145] ModBiblio double encoding items information <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6145> / [Bug 6137] Fix a little bug when userenv is null <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6137> / [Bug 6147] Reading RSS feeds via Netvibes <http://bugs.koha-com
07:59 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5565] Default OAI UNIMARC to Dublin Core XSL adds superfluous blanks <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5565> / [Bug 6081] Do not show "not for loan" description if false <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6081> / [Bug 6091] Remove undeclared syspref OPACAdvSearchInputCount <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6091> / [Bug 6098] zebra conf NSB NSE
08:11 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3580] Control order in which facet categories display <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3580> / [Bug 4319] waiting items cannot be reserved <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4319>
08:23 huginn New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3080] "spent" of budget and funds doesn't work <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3080> / [Bug 3172] Allow stemming for other languages <[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3172>
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10:05 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
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10:40 cait hi #koha
10:42 magnuse hi cait
10:53 cait ubuntu on laptop died :(
10:53 cait I only get a grub> and have no idea what to do now
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10:55 magnuse ouch!
10:59 cait yes :(
11:04 jcamins_away cait: did you have a question for me on Thursday?
11:05 jcamins_away Actually, I'm pretty sure you did. The important question is, do you still? :)
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11:15 magnuse o/
11:16 cait1 \o
11:16 druthb Hi, magnuse and cait1! :)
11:17 jcamins_away Hi, magnuse, cait1, and druthb.
11:18 * druthb waves to her teammate.
11:18 magnuse hi druthb and jcamins_away
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11:20 * magnuse waves to the bywater team
11:21 * magnuse wishes he had discovered export/import appliance in virtualbox earlier...
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13:22 mib_ah2gbh hi there :)
13:23 mib_ah2gbh i'm glad to say that my Koha installation will be on production tomorrow.... OPAC -
13:24 mib_ah2gbh (some news will appear soon in the main block...)
13:24 mib_ah2gbh but there something that stills worries me which is the reserves
13:26 mib_ah2gbh imagine that I have a queue of reserves on some item and the item is returned... there is the option to send the letter (email in my case) to advice the first reserve that the item is available to pickup
13:28 mib_ah2gbh i've set up one preference to set the reserve problematic if it isn't pick up in 2 days. what means problematic in koha?
13:28 mib_ah2gbh the system preference is ReservesMaxPickUpDelay
13:30 druthb with that set to two days, the hold will show up on a list of expired holds two days later.  Staff can then either call the patron and say, "hurry up!" or pass it to the next person in the queue.
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13:35 mib_ah2gbh it can't be automatic? if the reserves expired the following receives the warning (email)....
13:36 mib_ah2gbh where i can see the holds expired?
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13:39 mib_ah2gbh i've allready discovery...
13:40 druthb the "Expired Holds" report on the Circulation menu shows that.
13:41 mib_ah2gbh i don't see it... "holds waiting pickup" -> "holds over"
13:41 mib_ah2gbh ?
13:52 druthb Holds over, yes. :)
13:55 mib_ah2gbh ok thanks... i will try a  few tests now...
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16:34 mib_ah2gbh can anybody help me?
16:35 mib_ah2gbh how the koha sends warning to a user that the reserve is available?
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16:41 mib_ah2gbh noone?
16:42 jcamins_away mib_ah2gbh: if they're enabled, reserve notices are sent using the message queue.
16:42 jcamins_away It uses SMTP.
16:45 mib_ah2gbh they are enable... but by some reason they aren't sent
16:45 mib_ah2gbh I pretty sure that are enable
16:46 jcamins_away Рььью Сфт нщг ыутв ьуыыфпуы акщь еру сщььфтв дшту,
16:46 jcamins_away Oops.
16:46 jcamins_away Check if you can send messages from the command line.
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16:47 mib_ah2gbh i'm receiving all the messages.... overdue, due, checkins choeckouts works fine
16:47 jcamins_away Ah.
16:48 jcamins_away Are you confirming holds?
16:48 mib_ah2gbh ??
16:48 jcamins_away When you discharge a book that has a hold on it, it should pop up a message telling you there's a hold.
16:49 jcamins_away You need to click the button saying "Confirm hold" or something like that.
16:49 mib_ah2gbh when i check in a book and there is a hold on it nothing appears
16:49 mib_ah2gbh there is some system preference for that?
16:49 jcamins_away Hm.
16:50 jcamins_away Not that I was aware of.
16:50 jcamins_away Wait, there was a patch recently.
16:51 jcamins_away Nope, no idea.
16:51 jcamins_away What version are you on?
16:51 mib_ah2gbh 3.2.6
16:54 mib_ah2gbh everything is working fine except of this :/
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17:00 mib_ah2gbh no more ideas of want it is?
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17:05 jcamins_away Sorry, nothing I can find that would cause this.
17:05 adnc bug 6197
17:05 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=6197 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Capitalized or lowercased Turkish characters are not searchable
17:05 adnc can anyone confirm this bug?
17:06 mib_ah2gbh borrower message and borrower transport preferences are correctly set...
17:07 jcamins_away adnc: are you using ICU? If you are not using ICU, it definitely won't work.
17:07 adnc jcamins_away, what is ICU?
17:07 jcamins_away adnc: I don't know what it stands for.
17:07 jcamins_away[…]uchain-files.html
17:08 jcamins_away BibLibre knows more about ICU
17:08 adnc i'll try to read and understand this
17:09 jcamins_away adnc: I don't understand it myself, or I'd try and explain.
17:10 adnc i know that turkish character lower- or uppercasing is a problem of php 5
17:10 adnc for example a capitalized "i" is not "I" instead it is a "İ"
17:11 adnc I dont know if you see the last capital i but the conversion seems to be a problem for the indexing
17:11 jcamins_away I'm not surprised. Zebra handles non-ASCII characters very badly.
17:13 mib_ah2gbh i've checked up the file which is the script called in the check in function, and a function AddReturn of is called.
17:13 mib_ah2gbh in that function there is nothing to warn the borrower that has a hold on the item
17:14 jcamins_away I'm not entirely sure how it works. I don't generally do anything with holds.
17:15 adnc jcamins_away, I don't know how ICU is involved in koha or even how to enable or disable it
17:15 jcamins_away adnc: indexing is done by Zebra.
17:15 jcamins_away You need to configure Zebra to use ICU.
17:15 jcamins_away Unfortunately, I have now told you *everything* I know about the subject.
17:15 adnc have you done this before?
17:15 adnc ;)
17:15 jcamins_away Never.
17:16 jcamins_away sekjal, one of my coworkers, has set this up for French.
17:16 jcamins_away And I think BibLibre has done a lot with ICU.
17:29 adnc I found this document[…]em-p28106148.html unfortunately it talks about a file called zebra-biblios.cfg but that file doesnt exist hier
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18:53 adnc where do I find az-client?
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19:14 druthb o/
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20:15 jcamins adnc: yaz-client should be in apt.
20:15 adnc ahh
20:15 adnc jcamins, is it this one yaz-illclient
20:15 jcamins No, that doesn't sound right.
20:16 jcamins Lemme check, I just booted a new system.
20:16 adnc there is a package called yaz, yaz-doc yaz-icu
20:16 jcamins yaz, I think.
20:17 adnc that I do have installed
20:18 jcamins That has yaz-client.
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20:18 jcamins /usr/bin/yaz-client
20:18 jcamins man 1 yaz-client
20:18 adnc http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]16.html#a28106148
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20:19 adnc I'was going through this thread
20:19 adnc there is a command line call named az-client, that might be than  a typo
20:20 jcamins Yeah, that's a typo.
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20:20 adnc also there are some missing files
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20:20 adnc this for example "Edit /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg "
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20:20 adnc zebra-biblios.cfg
20:21 jcamins adnc: that's right.
20:21 jcamins If you have a dev install, you'll just have to look in koha-dev/etc/zebradb.
20:22 adnc no I don't
20:22 adnc where could I get that file from?
20:23 jcamins Hm.
20:23 jcamins That's the configuration file for Zebra.
20:23 jcamins If you don't have it, then you can't have Koha installed.
20:24 adnc zebra-biblios.cfg this file?
20:24 jcamins Yes.
20:24 jcamins adnc: did you install Zebra?
20:24 adnc i do have it, but this file is on a different directory
20:24 jcamins Or are you trying NoZebra? Because NoZebra doesn't work.
20:24 adnc i installed packaged version of koha, zebra
20:24 jcamins Okay, good.
20:25 adnc is running
20:25 jcamins Well, wherever the file is, that's where it is now.
20:25 jcamins :)
20:25 adnc ;)
20:25 jcamins Probably /etc/koha/sites/whatever/z​ebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg?
20:25 adnc exact
20:25 adnc i suppose it should stay there
20:25 jcamins Yes.
20:25 jcamins Don't move any files.
20:26 jcamins You'll just confuse yourself if you do. ;)
20:26 adnc what about all the copy stuff from the thread?
20:28 jcamins adnc: just change the paths to match what you have.
20:28 adnc one example where should icu.xml than go?
20:29 jcamins Probably /etc/koha/sites/whatever/zebradb/etc/icu.xml
20:29 jcamins (the only reason I'm not sure is that I have a system without Koha running, so I can't actually check these things... correct the spelling as needed;)
20:31 adnc below /etc/koha/sites/whatever here is no zebradb directory
20:31 adnc maybe that is held generall and /etc/koha/zebradb/etc is valid for all koha-sites
20:34 jcamins If that's where the zebradb directory is, that sounds very logical.
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21:36 jcamins The next Olympic sport: bunny jumping!
21:39 cait ?
21:39 cait ?
21:40 cait ah sorry, scrolling seems to be broken
21:40 jcamins cait:
21:49 cait !
21:53 * jcamins needs to choose a new camera.
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22:40 jcamins Myshkin is falling off the couch in slow motion.
22:40 jcamins It's adorable.
22:40 cait :)
22:41 cait is he sleeping?
22:41 jcamins Yup.
22:42 jcamins I expect he'll come back to sit on my lap soon.
22:43 jcamins He's only on the couch because I rudely placed him there so that I could eat my dinner.
22:47 gmcharlt :)
22:47 gmcharlt cute
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23:44 druthb o/
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