Time  Nick           Message
00:55 brendan_       rangi - happy weekend ;)
01:00 rangi          heya brendan_
01:00 wahanui        brendan_ is a big fan of koha or the best boss evar!
01:03 brendan_       heh
01:05 druthb         o/
01:06 rangi          hey druthb
01:07 druthb         hi, rangi. :)
01:43 rhcl           HI ho Hi Ho, it's off to home we go
03:09 jcamins_away   rangi: ooh, that replaces the sessions table?
03:09 * jcamins_away thought it had something to do with sysprefs.
03:13 jcamins_away   Grr. My computer is messing with its routing tables all by itself.
04:07 Oak            \o
07:13 adnc           rangi, ping
07:47 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 6141] html glitches causing problems to translator <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6141> / [Bug 6145] ModBiblio double encoding items information <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6145> / [Bug 6137] Fix a little bug when userenv is null <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6137> / [Bug 6147] Reading RSS feeds via Netvibes <http://bugs.koha-com
07:59 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 5565] Default OAI UNIMARC to Dublin Core XSL adds superfluous blanks <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=5565> / [Bug 6081] Do not show "not for loan" description if false <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6081> / [Bug 6091] Remove undeclared syspref OPACAdvSearchInputCount <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6091> / [Bug 6098] zebra conf NSB NSE
08:11 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3580] Control order in which facet categories display <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3580> / [Bug 4319] waiting items cannot be reserved <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4319>
08:23 huginn         New commit(s) needsignoff: [Bug 3080] "spent" of budget and funds doesn't work <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3080> / [Bug 3172] Allow stemming for other languages <http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3172>
10:40 cait           hi #koha
10:42 magnuse        hi cait
10:53 cait           ubuntu on laptop died :(
10:53 cait           I only get a grub> and have no idea what to do now
10:55 magnuse        ouch!
10:59 cait           yes :(
11:04 jcamins_away   cait: did you have a question for me on Thursday?
11:05 jcamins_away   Actually, I'm pretty sure you did. The important question is, do you still? :)
11:15 magnuse        o/
11:16 cait1          \o
11:16 druthb         Hi, magnuse and cait1! :)
11:17 jcamins_away   Hi, magnuse, cait1, and druthb.
11:18 * druthb       waves to her teammate.
11:18 magnuse        hi druthb and jcamins_away
11:20 * magnuse      waves to the bywater team
11:21 * magnuse      wishes he had discovered export/import appliance in virtualbox earlier...
13:22 mib_ah2gbh     hi there :)
13:23 mib_ah2gbh     i'm glad to say that my Koha installation will be on production tomorrow.... OPAC - http://catalogo.biblioteca.iscte-iul.pt
13:24 mib_ah2gbh     (some news will appear soon in the main block...)
13:24 mib_ah2gbh     but there something that stills worries me which is the reserves
13:26 mib_ah2gbh     imagine that I have a queue of reserves on some item and the item is returned... there is the option to send the letter (email in my case) to advice the first reserve that the item is available to pickup
13:28 mib_ah2gbh     i've set up one preference to set the reserve problematic if it isn't pick up in 2 days. what means problematic in koha?
13:28 mib_ah2gbh     the system preference is ReservesMaxPickUpDelay
13:30 druthb         with that set to two days, the hold will show up on a list of expired holds two days later.  Staff can then either call the patron and say, "hurry up!" or pass it to the next person in the queue.
13:35 mib_ah2gbh     it can't be automatic? if the reserves expired the following receives the warning (email)....
13:36 mib_ah2gbh     where i can see the holds expired?
13:39 mib_ah2gbh     i've allready discovery...
13:40 druthb         the "Expired Holds" report on the Circulation menu shows that.
13:41 mib_ah2gbh     i don't see it... "holds waiting pickup" -> "holds over"
13:41 mib_ah2gbh     ?
13:52 druthb         Holds over, yes. :)
13:55 mib_ah2gbh     ok thanks... i will try a  few tests now...
16:34 mib_ah2gbh     can anybody help me?
16:35 mib_ah2gbh     how the koha sends warning to a user that the reserve is available?
16:41 mib_ah2gbh     noone?
16:42 jcamins_away   mib_ah2gbh: if they're enabled, reserve notices are sent using the message queue.
16:42 jcamins_away   It uses SMTP.
16:45 mib_ah2gbh     they are enable... but by some reason they aren't sent
16:45 mib_ah2gbh     I pretty sure that are enable
16:46 jcamins_away   Рььью Сфт нщг ыутв ьуыыфпуы акщь еру сщььфтв дшту,
16:46 jcamins_away   Oops.
16:46 jcamins_away   Check if you can send messages from the command line.
16:47 mib_ah2gbh     i'm receiving all the messages.... overdue, due, checkins choeckouts works fine
16:47 jcamins_away   Ah.
16:48 jcamins_away   Are you confirming holds?
16:48 mib_ah2gbh     ??
16:48 jcamins_away   When you discharge a book that has a hold on it, it should pop up a message telling you there's a hold.
16:49 jcamins_away   You need to click the button saying "Confirm hold" or something like that.
16:49 mib_ah2gbh     when i check in a book and there is a hold on it nothing appears
16:49 mib_ah2gbh     there is some system preference for that?
16:49 jcamins_away   Hm.
16:50 jcamins_away   Not that I was aware of.
16:50 jcamins_away   Wait, there was a patch recently.
16:51 jcamins_away   Nope, no idea.
16:51 jcamins_away   What version are you on?
16:51 mib_ah2gbh     3.2.6
16:54 mib_ah2gbh     everything is working fine except of this :/
17:00 mib_ah2gbh     no more ideas of want it is?
17:05 jcamins_away   Sorry, nothing I can find that would cause this.
17:05 adnc           bug 6197
17:05 huginn         04Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6197 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Capitalized or lowercased Turkish characters are not searchable
17:05 adnc           can anyone confirm this bug?
17:06 mib_ah2gbh     borrower message and borrower transport preferences are correctly set...
17:07 jcamins_away   adnc: are you using ICU? If you are not using ICU, it definitely won't work.
17:07 adnc           jcamins_away, what is ICU?
17:07 jcamins_away   adnc: I don't know what it stands for.
17:07 jcamins_away   http://www.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/icuchain-files.html
17:08 jcamins_away   BibLibre knows more about ICU
17:08 adnc           i'll try to read and understand this
17:09 jcamins_away   adnc: I don't understand it myself, or I'd try and explain.
17:10 adnc           i know that turkish character lower- or uppercasing is a problem of php 5
17:10 adnc           for example a capitalized "i" is not "I" instead it is a "Ä°"
17:11 adnc           I dont know if you see the last capital i but the conversion seems to be a problem for the indexing
17:11 jcamins_away   I'm not surprised. Zebra handles non-ASCII characters very badly.
17:13 mib_ah2gbh     i've checked up the file renewscript.pl which is the script called in the check in function, and a function AddReturn of C4::Circulation.pm is called.
17:13 mib_ah2gbh     in that function there is nothing to warn the borrower that has a hold on the item
17:14 jcamins_away   I'm not entirely sure how it works. I don't generally do anything with holds.
17:15 adnc           jcamins_away, I don't know how ICU is involved in koha or even how to enable or disable it
17:15 jcamins_away   adnc: indexing is done by Zebra.
17:15 jcamins_away   You need to configure Zebra to use ICU.
17:15 jcamins_away   Unfortunately, I have now told you *everything* I know about the subject.
17:15 adnc           have you done this before?
17:15 adnc           ;)
17:15 jcamins_away   Never.
17:16 jcamins_away   sekjal, one of my coworkers, has set this up for French.
17:16 jcamins_away   And I think BibLibre has done a lot with ICU.
17:29 adnc           I found this document http://old.nabble.com/Re%3A-display-search-result-problem-p28106148.html unfortunately it talks about a file called zebra-biblios.cfg but that file doesnt exist hier
18:53 adnc           where do I find az-client?
19:14 druthb         o/
20:15 jcamins        adnc: yaz-client should be in apt.
20:15 adnc           ahh
20:15 adnc           jcamins, is it this one yaz-illclient
20:15 jcamins        No, that doesn't sound right.
20:16 jcamins        Lemme check, I just booted a new system.
20:16 adnc           there is a package called yaz, yaz-doc yaz-icu
20:16 jcamins        yaz, I think.
20:17 adnc           that I do have installed
20:18 jcamins        That has yaz-client.
20:18 jcamins        /usr/bin/yaz-client
20:18 jcamins        man 1 yaz-client
20:18 adnc           http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.com/display-search-result-problem-td3065016.html#a28106148
20:19 adnc           I'was going through this thread
20:19 adnc           there is a command line call named az-client, that might be than  a typo
20:20 jcamins        Yeah, that's a typo.
20:20 adnc           also there are some missing files
20:20 adnc           this for example "Edit /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg "
20:20 adnc           zebra-biblios.cfg
20:21 jcamins        adnc: that's right.
20:21 jcamins        If you have a dev install, you'll just have to look in koha-dev/etc/zebradb.
20:22 adnc           no I don't
20:22 adnc           where could I get that file from?
20:23 jcamins        Hm.
20:23 jcamins        That's the configuration file for Zebra.
20:23 jcamins        If you don't have it, then you can't have Koha installed.
20:24 adnc           zebra-biblios.cfg this file?
20:24 jcamins        Yes.
20:24 jcamins        adnc: did you install Zebra?
20:24 adnc           i do have it, but this file is on a different directory
20:24 jcamins        Or are you trying NoZebra? Because NoZebra doesn't work.
20:24 adnc           i installed packaged version of koha, zebra
20:24 jcamins        Okay, good.
20:25 adnc           is running
20:25 jcamins        Well, wherever the file is, that's where it is now.
20:25 jcamins        :)
20:25 adnc           ;)
20:25 jcamins        Probably /etc/koha/sites/whatever/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg?
20:25 adnc           exact
20:25 adnc           i suppose it should stay there
20:25 jcamins        Yes.
20:25 jcamins        Don't move any files.
20:26 jcamins        You'll just confuse yourself if you do. ;)
20:26 adnc           what about all the copy stuff from the thread?
20:28 jcamins        adnc: just change the paths to match what you have.
20:28 adnc           one example where should icu.xml than go?
20:29 jcamins        Probably /etc/koha/sites/whatever/zebradb/etc/icu.xml
20:29 jcamins        (the only reason I'm not sure is that I have a system without Koha running, so I can't actually check these things... correct the spelling as needed;)
20:31 adnc           below /etc/koha/sites/whatever here is no zebradb directory
20:31 adnc           maybe that is held generall and /etc/koha/zebradb/etc is valid for all koha-sites
20:34 jcamins        If that's where the zebradb directory is, that sounds very logical.
21:36 jcamins        The next Olympic sport: bunny jumping!
21:39 cait           ?
21:39 cait           ?
21:40 cait           ah sorry, scrolling seems to be broken
21:40 jcamins        cait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNPOdffkkLo
21:49 cait           !
21:53 * jcamins      needs to choose a new camera.
22:40 jcamins        Myshkin is falling off the couch in slow motion.
22:40 jcamins        It's adorable.
22:40 cait           :)
22:41 cait           is he sleeping?
22:41 jcamins        Yup.
22:42 jcamins        I expect he'll come back to sit on my lap soon.
22:43 jcamins        He's only on the couch because I rudely placed him there so that I could eat my dinner.
22:47 gmcharlt       :)
22:47 gmcharlt       cute
23:44 druthb         o/