IRC log for #koha, 2011-03-07

All times shown according to UTC.

Time S Nick Message
00:17 Ahmuck-Sr joined #koha
00:21 Ahmuck left #koha
00:37 rangi wow cait is busy
00:38 cait cait should sleep
00:38 wizzyrea oh ya
00:38 wizzyrea cait++
00:38 rangi cait: i already had a client ask for your patch for 1962 to be applied
00:38 cait :)
00:38 rangi i said 'as soon as liz tests it' :)
00:39 cait both nicole and I tested it the first time... hope now it works like it should
00:40 wizzyrea the libraries like seeing the fines
00:41 wizzyrea will be nice to not see the 0 ones tho
00:41 cait right :)
00:41 cathrsnz joined #koha
00:41 cathrsnz Testing our IRC link pre go-live -- please ignore. C
00:42 rangi hi cathrsnz
00:42 * rangi is chris c
00:42 cathrsnz Great - so it works - thanks very encouraging thanks.
00:42 rangi see ya in a couple of days :)
00:43 cait and pehraps I can motivate someone to look at bug 5527?
00:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5527 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, NEW, Reports: Patrons who haven't checked out misses active users from issues table
00:44 rangi i think pauls email is a perfect opening
00:44 Minibull joined #koha
00:45 rangi people should feel free to reply to those emails with a list of bugs they would like to highlight for testing/sign off too
00:45 wizzyrea ooo good idea
00:45 wizzyrea bug advocacy
00:48 Minibull left #koha
00:48 cait hmpf - locked out of mail account subscribed to lists for 4 more hours
00:48 cait so, not now. :)
00:49 rangi time for sleep for you anyway :)
00:49 wizzyrea ^^
00:50 cait yeah, perhaps better
00:52 cait good night :)
00:52 cait left #koha
00:52 cathrsnz left #koha
01:00 wizzyrea bug 5812 is a great example of how signoff push is supposed to work
01:00 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5812 minor, PATCH-Sent, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Tag Cloud - capitalized words come before lower-case words
01:00 wizzyrea patch*
01:05 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5835 : adding a class to index <[…]8e92dabdc638b11e4>
01:13 irma joined #koha
01:16 irma left #koha
01:21 rangi checkout what the awesome shiny has been up to
01:21 rangi[…]hquake-stuff.html
01:24 wizzyrea left #koha
01:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: bug 2975: whitespace and formatting cleanup <[…]022295da42ceed1ff> / bug 2975: fix calculation of due dates by offline circ <[…]86cc418ae8c980b57>
01:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 26 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
01:40 rangi i do like this
01:40 rangi http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]master/26/changes
01:41 eythian I cannot begin to pronounce "Wijzigingen" (which I see as the title of that page, and means "changes")
01:42 rangi heh
02:08 ronald_ left #koha
02:11 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #26: SUCCESS in 32 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/26/
02:11 jenkins_koha * Nicole C. Engard: Bug 5820: Change language to 'Fund' over 'Budget'
02:11 jenkins_koha * Ian Walls: Bug 5831: doesn't respect -r
02:11 jenkins_koha * Paul Poulain: Bug 5835 : adding a class to index <select>
02:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5820 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, nengard, RESOLVED FIXED, funds/budget language inconsistency when ordering
02:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 2975: fix calculation of due dates by offline circ
02:11 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 2975: whitespace and formatting cleanup
02:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5831 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, does not respect -r flag
02:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5835 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Adding a missing class to the idx select box
02:11 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2975 critical, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Offline circ tries to circ on biblio-level "itemtype"
02:11 jenkins_koha Starting build 27 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
02:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bumping database version <[…]a0aa8e05b8195b3fa> / Merge remote branch 'kc/new/enh/bug_5783' into kcmaster <[…]a4ca10dfb512dcb90> / bug 5783: follow-up system preferences tweaks <[…]61adeac8597ce0781
02:43 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #27: SUCCESS in 31 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/27/
02:43 jenkins_koha * Tomas Cohen Arazi: bug 5783: Authorities edit logging
02:43 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5783: follow-up - fix logging of modifications
02:43 jenkins_koha * Galen Charlton: bug 5783: follow-up system preferences tweaks
02:43 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5783 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, gmcharlt, ASSIGNED, Authorities edit logging
02:43 jenkins_koha * Chris Cormack: Bumping database version
03:05 bob_ joined #koha
03:06 druthb joined #koha
03:11 bob_ left #koha
03:12 bob_ joined #koha
03:12 druthb left #koha
03:30 kmkale joined #koha
03:30 kmkale Namaskar #koha
03:38 cornelius joined #koha
03:39 cornelius hello, am I late?
03:40 mtj ha, for what?
03:42 cornelius Any news from this chat? KohaCon11, is on Tuesday 8th March 2011 at 14:00 UTC
03:42 mtj cornelius:  ahh, gotcha :)
03:42 space_librarian hasn't happened yet, cornelius
03:43 rangi its only monday, (or still sunday in some places)
03:43 rangi i dont think its tuesday anywhere in the work
03:43 rangi world even
03:43 space_librarian not yet
03:43 cornelius it is a mistake. I will come back then.
03:44 kmkale :)
03:46 cornelius left #koha
03:47 cornelius joined #koha
03:47 cornelius left #koha
03:49 dr_bibble joined #koha
03:50 ronald joined #koha
03:51 dr_bibble left #koha
04:03 jransom left #koha
04:23 rangi bug 5873
04:23 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5873 was not found.
04:24 rangi bug 5837
04:24 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5837 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Change installer to use DBIx::Class::Schema::Versioned instead of
04:24 rangi if anyone is interested its sorta working
04:26 mtj i'm interested, and WoW
04:29 mtj rangi:  was this header stuff automated?
04:30 mtj[…]552631c9334e39080
04:30 mtj or all done manually>
04:30 mtj ?
04:30 mtj ahhh.
04:31 mtj 180 # Created by DBIx::Class::Schema::Loader v0.07010 @ 2011-03-07 16:24:14
04:31 Oak joined #koha
04:31 mtj 181 # DO NOT MODIFY THIS OR ANYTHING ABOVE! md5sum:mZ51lfjNh7yS/yCJsbEUbQ
04:31 mtj click ;)
04:56 mtj left #koha
04:56 mtj joined #koha
05:08 braedon joined #koha
05:29 ronald left #koha
05:37 kmkale left #koha
05:41 rangi yeah I've been writing scripts to do the upgrade
05:47 cait joined #koha
05:47 cait good morning #koha
05:48 ronald joined #koha
05:52 rangi and create the diffs
05:55 cait rangi++
05:55 cait you were busy too :)
06:02 rangi I did manage to deploy to mysql and postgres
06:07 kmkale joined #koha
06:17 eythian so liberty stores credits as negative values, debits as negative values, and things that aren't marked but are really credits as positive values. Good work.
06:20 cait ?
06:21 eythian migrating fines/charges from Liberty to Koha. Trying to understand the details of how liberty stores things.
06:21 eythian And it seems to have things that make no sense.
06:22 eythian About 50% of the time this means I haven't understood them right.
06:22 eythian The other 50% they really are crazy.
06:22 cait this is good, I thought it only made no sense to me :)
06:22 cait so perhaps I am really kind of awake
06:23 eythian I wouldn't count on it. I can feel the side effects of two injections kicking in.
06:23 eythian The kind of immune-system overdrive that leaves you feeling a bit tired and spacey.
06:23 cait ouch
06:24 eythian[…]op-three-ck-87657 <-- not a bad result
06:29 rangi :)
06:30 cait uh
06:30 cait we print out the sql twice above guided reports?
06:30 cait I don't want it there once
06:31 rangi twice?
06:31 cait yep
06:31 cait select firstname, surname from borrowers Total number of rows matching the (unlimited) query is 51. select firstname, surname from borrowers
06:32 rangi heh
06:32 cait doesn't make sense and an ugly print out
06:32 cait twice = wrong english?
06:33 rangi nope, id just never seen it twice
06:33 cait I was not aware of that either
06:34 cait I started to show a while back, but I am not sure we really need it there - I would prefer to not show the sql at all
06:34 cait not on the quided reports result page - we have a show sql link on the side before
06:34 rangi yeah
06:35 cait oh, it's only once... I accidently added my sql as note
06:35 rangi heh
06:35 * cait should perhaps sleep more
06:35 rangi :)
06:35 cait but still don#t want the sql there
06:46 kmkale hi cait rangi
06:48 rangi hi kmkale
06:51 cait hi kmkale :)
07:01 Oak left #koha
07:04 cait sending a patch feels like a good start for a monday
07:05 cait let's see how it goes from here :)
07:13 cait left #koha
07:42 kf joined #koha
07:43 kf good morning #koha
07:43 rangi wb kf
07:43 paul_p joined #koha
07:47 sophie_m joined #koha
07:47 rangi hi sophie_m and paul_p
07:47 paul_p hi rangi
07:47 sophie_m hi
07:49 kf :)
07:49 kf and good morning biblibre :)
07:50 * paul_p tired to remove spam on the wiki ... 3-6 every day
07:50 hdl joined #koha
07:51 magnuse joined #koha
07:51 rangi yeah, theres gotta be some anti spam plugins for mediawiki
07:51 rangi the problem is its human beings doing it
07:52 rangi not machines
07:52 * magnuse was just thinking the same thing...
07:52 magnuse and kia ora!
07:52 rangi hiya magnuse
07:53 hdl hi
07:53 wahanui1 que tal, hdl
07:53 kf we could move back to dokuwiki... *hides*
07:53 rangi wouldnt stop it
07:53 * kf waves to magnus from under her desk
07:53 rangi we had spam on there too
07:54 rangi theres not a lot that stops humans
07:54 kf it's really hard to see real edits to the wiki now, with all the spam and spam fighting
07:55 rangi i think the only thing we could do is increase the autoblocking to a really long time
07:56 kf auto-blocking?
07:57 magnuse an extreme but efficient measure might be to disable account creation - force people to "apply" for editing rights...
07:57 rangi kf: when you block a user, it blocks that ipnumber from creating a new account
07:57 rangi it has been stopping lots
08:00 francharb joined #koha
08:00 francharb morning all
08:00 magnuse[…]al:Combating_spam
08:00 rangi hi francharb
08:02 kf hi francharb
08:08 hdl1 joined #koha
08:08 hdl left #koha
08:11 hdl1 is now known as hdl
08:11 ronald left #koha
08:14 sophie_m left #koha
08:18 kmkale_ joined #koha
08:20 kmkale left #koha
08:20 kmkale_ is now known as kmkale
08:21 kf paul_p: answered your comment ;)
08:24 miguelxercode left #koha
08:24 miguelxercode joined #koha
08:26 sophie_m joined #koha
08:29 rangi kf: you are now chris fischer apparently
08:29 kf lol
08:29 kf oh my, another identity to take care of
08:30 rangi hehe
08:34 miguelxercode left #koha
08:40 marcelr joined #koha
08:57 kmkale left #koha
09:13 kf bug 5839 - opinions welcome
09:13 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5839 enhancement, P5, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Add mapping for items.stocknumber to MARC21
09:19 kmkale joined #koha
09:22 ronald joined #koha
09:26 kmkale left #koha
09:43 marcelr kf: 5839++
09:46 kf thx :)
09:46 kf was on my list for a long time,
09:46 kf is now known as kf_mtg
10:06 chris_n` joined #koha
10:06 chris_n is now known as Guest3831
10:06 chris_n` is now known as chris_n
10:11 Guest3831 left #koha
10:36 kf_mtg is now known as kf
11:13 druthb joined #koha
11:27 ronald left #koha
11:28 ronald joined #koha
11:28 sophie_m left #koha
11:29 hdl left #koha
11:48 druthb is now known as druthb_away
11:58 kf does someone remember why rotating collections was taken out of 3.2?
12:00 druthb_away is now known as druthb
12:05 * kf waves to druthb :)
12:05 druthb o/
12:18 magnuse so if a library has internal notes in marc21 field 590 that they do not want to display in the opac, what is the best thing to do? Biblio::GetMarcNotes picks up all 500-fields
12:20 magnuse the marc data is being migrated from 2.2.9 to 3.2
12:25 sophie_m joined #koha
12:25 juan_xerc joined #koha
12:27 kf 590 is a local field
12:27 kf having a 9 in it
12:28 kf not sure there are such things as internal footnotes in marc21
12:28 kf ?
12:31 hdl joined #koha
12:32 magnuse me neither... the library have been using 590 for internal notes in 2.2.9, and want to keep those internal notes out of the opac somehow in 3.2 too...
12:34 Dig_library joined #koha
12:34 jwagner joined #koha
12:35 Dig_library hi
12:35 Dig_library hello
12:35 wahanui1 hello, Dig_library
12:35 hdl hi
12:36 Dig_library i need a help?
12:36 Dig_library <wahanui1>
12:37 hdl Dig_library: ?
12:39 Dig_library i m using koha in my library comp, now i want to access the catalog from another client machine. what should i do?
12:39 Dig_library <hdl>
12:40 hdl you should either add the uri to your /etc/host
12:40 hdl Or use your bind service to point the catalog to your computer.
12:41 mtj Dig_library:  just use the same url
12:41 Dig_library cant access by using same url
12:42 mtj ask your library sys-admin then
12:42 mtj you probably have a network config issue
12:43 Dig_library i also tried to add the url in /etc/host but, cant enter anything
12:43 Dig_library may be
12:43 mtj you have a file permission problem too?
12:44 Dig_library ok
12:45 Dig_library the other thing is i want to upgrade the version of koha. how?
12:45 mtj use git , or download the tarball
12:46 mtj ps : use git ;)
12:55 collum_ joined #koha
13:01 JesseM joined #koha
13:02 Dig_library hi
13:02 wahanui1 niihau, Dig_library
13:02 Dig_library left #koha
13:04 collum_ left #koha
13:14 schuster joined #koha
13:18 jcamins_away is now known as jcamins
13:19 * jcamins waves to #koha
13:22 magnuse o/
13:41 sekjal joined #koha
13:41 * druthb waves to sekjal and jcamins.
13:42 sekjal morning, druthb!
13:42 sekjal morning, jcamins
13:42 * jcamins cautions everyone who is not druthb or sekjal to keep their distance - apparently there is a cold going around the office.
13:42 jcamins Morning.
14:17 schuster gets out the Lysol disinfectant...  don't come near me...
14:19 jcamins schuster: I hope you have an economy-sized bottle.
14:21 * jwagner thinks chicken soup is vastly overrated
14:21 jwagner Especially for horrible hacking coughs...
14:24 * druthb chuckles about a cold "going around" a virtual office.
14:24 jwagner It will spread all through #koha if you're not careful!  Practice sanitary typing!!!
14:26 jcamins That's why I warned you all.
14:26 Eru joined #koha
14:27 Eru hey guys.  Anyone know why I would get this error mesage whilst trying to update patron data? "Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 595.
14:27 Eru "
14:29 Eru I'v checked that line, and it appears to relate to the pwd. Upon input the pwd is not masked, which seems a bit strange, but I can't remember if it was when it was working
14:29 magnuse Eru: not sure i can help you, but which version of koha are you using?
14:30 Eru magnuse: I'm running
14:32 jcamins Eru: is that a typo? That's an incredibly old version.
14:32 marcelr left #koha
14:33 mtj 2.5 years old
14:33 mtj ive seen a lot older ;)
14:34 Eru woah, for real? We got the newest version when we installed it, and that was eighteen months ago, so that doesn't sound right
14:35 kf Eru: Koha is fast :)
14:35 kf current version is 3.2.5
14:35 Eru that's fast, for sure
14:35 Eru :)
14:35 jcamins Eru: 18 months ago the newest version should have been ~3.0.4, I think.
14:36 jcamins Regardless, one possibility for fixing the problem might be to upgrade.
14:36 Eru aight. anwyays, I guess an upgrade  could solve the issues, but we've made quite a few changes to that marc framework that I'd rather not have to make again
14:37 mtj[…]292a2f8d9f2b3a8b5
14:37 jcamins You wouldn't lose your changes if you upgraded.
14:37 mtj Wed, 6 Aug 2008
14:37 Eru cheers
14:38 Eru jcamins: You never know with upgrades
14:38 jcamins Eru: true.
14:38 jcamins That's why backups are a good idea.
14:38 mtj … and a test box
14:38 Eru agreed
14:39 Eru guess, worst case scenario I could roll back to and load the backup
14:39 mtj but you will need an extra koha license for that :/
14:39 mtj just kidding! ;)
14:40 Eru haha
14:41 Eru upgrade it is, then
14:41 sekjal lots of great new features in Koha 3.2
14:41 sekjal I think upgrading is a win all around
14:42 Eru Agreed once more. bit sloppy to keep the same verison for such a long time :)
14:46 Eru but no idea of what could be causing the problem in the file?
14:47 mtj pass...
14:47 mtj the cause is probably because you have a really old version :)
14:48 magnuse is now known as magnus_away
14:49 mtj im being cheeky,  but set up a test box on 3.2.5 and see if yr problem persists
14:49 Eru I'll do that. thanks
14:49 Eru it's just, I hate not knowing why things fail
14:50 mtj yep, me too
14:51 wizzyrea joined #koha
14:51 mtj but save your debugging till *after* you upgrade
14:51 Eru and as I can't find any error in the code nor any reason why the changes I've made should make it fail, I suddenly feel like tossing the server out the window.  Luckily it's located somewhare else
14:51 nengard joined #koha
14:51 mtj else you may be fixing a bug , thats already been sorted
14:52 wizzyrea odd, are permissions kept anywhere but in the borrowerflags?
14:52 mtj nope, afaik
14:52 wizzyrea well that's completely odd then
14:53 wizzyrea I have permissions set uniformly, but some flags aren't set
14:53 wizzyrea flags
14:53 * druthb has been seeing a lot of wizzyrea lately, but doesn't mind.
14:53 wizzyrea lm rephrase
14:53 wizzyrea I have the flags set uniformly, but some permissions aren't set
14:53 wizzyrea :D
14:53 wizzyrea mornin ruth
14:53 wizzyrea it's weird.
14:58 nengard morning all
14:58 fcapo joined #koha
14:59 druthb Hi, nengard!
15:00 JesseM Morning nengard
15:03 wizzyrea mornin nengard
15:04 nengard hiya all
15:08 moodaepo joined #koha
15:09 mtj left #koha
15:24 ronald left #koha
15:24 ronald joined #koha
15:58 rhcl joined #koha
16:06 wizzyrea not that he's here, but pianohacker++
16:06 wizzyrea for teaching me something *without even being present*
16:07 rhcl Is that like "sine qua non"?
16:07 nengard what was that?
16:07 wizzyrea it was a friendlier way to execute left joins
16:07 wizzyrea to use something a la
16:07 wizzyrea LEFT JOIN items USING (itemnumber)
16:07 * wizzyrea has always had a bit of a mental block regarding joins
16:08 wizzyrea it's elementary
16:08 wizzyrea and I'm exposing my ignorance by telling
16:08 * jcamins pictures wizzyrea with a Sherlock Holmes hat.
16:08 wizzyrea but oy, that helped me so much to understand
16:08 wizzyrea reports_library++
16:12 nengard wizzyrea thanks for also teaching me something!
16:12 wizzyrea YAY knowledge spreading!
16:14 hdl give forward
16:16 nengard that's what it's all about
16:18 * jcamins thinks may be the first time he's had electricity but no running water in the US.
16:24 MickeyC joined #koha
16:25 MickeyC is now known as Guest3858
16:26 Guest3858 left #koha
16:26 mib_q39wr3 joined #koha
16:27 mib_q39wr3 left #koha
16:29 kf left #koha
16:32 nengard jcamins - why no water?
16:32 jcamins nengard: I'm not entirely sure. I just turned on the tap and no water came out.
16:33 nengard uh oh
16:39 briceSanc joined #koha
16:39 brice_ joined #koha
16:39 brice_ left #koha
16:44 briceSanc left #koha
16:44 briceSanc joined #koha
16:44 briceSanc hello
16:44 wahanui1 hello, briceSanc
16:45 wizzyrea hello
16:45 wahanui1 hola, wizzyrea
16:45 briceSanc is there a way to merge 2 authorities records in Koha and to compare the diff ?
16:49 juan_xerc left #koha
16:53 schuster left #koha
16:53 nengard briceSanc not at this time
16:53 sekjal briceSanc:  not at this point, I believe.  But there is a mergebiblio tool which could probably be modified to handle this (similar understructure)
16:54 schuster joined #koha
16:54 juan-xercode joined #koha
16:54 juan-xercode left #koha
16:54 juan-xercode joined #koha
16:55 juan-xercode left #koha
16:55 juan-xercode joined #koha
16:57 nengard is now known as nengard_lunch
16:57 cait joined #koha
16:59 schuster left #koha
17:04 sekjal left #koha
17:08 jcamins Just another 1:45 before we get running water back.
17:11 cait left #koha
17:14 ronald left #koha
17:21 sophie_m left #koha
17:30 sekjal joined #koha
17:34 schuster joined #koha
17:35 druthb left #koha
17:35 sekjal left #koha
17:40 briceSanc nengard, sekjal, thanks for your answers !
17:43 nengard_lunch is now known as nengard
17:45 paul_p left #koha
17:47 sekjal joined #koha
17:48 druthb joined #koha
17:48 druthb @quote get 102
17:48 huginn druthb: Quote #102: "<druthb> harrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:42 PM, November 11, 2010)
17:52 * wizzyrea agrees
18:00 briceSanc ls
18:01 nengard have the bots stopped announcing rebuilds of the manual?
18:01 nengard I pusehd commits yesterday and today and never saw it here in the chanel
18:02 nengard not a big deal of course - just curious
18:02 schuster left #koha
18:27 gmcharlt quick poll - add a sort3 field to borrowers or enhance the statistics wizards to allow specifying extend patron attributes as column or row values?
18:28 wizzyrea what for?
18:28 wizzyrea what's the problem you want to solve?
18:28 * wizzyrea is a bit thick today
18:28 gmcharlt basically, library wants a third statistical category field; they already use sort1 and sort3 *and* extended patron attributes
18:30 wizzyrea hmm. allowing specifying in the wizards seems like a more universal solution. Maybe I don't understand.
18:31 sekjal enhance_the_wizard++
18:31 briceSanc left #koha
18:31 gmcharlt wizzyrea: I agree with you, but just wanted to be sure that I wasn't being overly obtuse in desiring the more general solution
18:32 * wizzyrea generally prefers using existing data than creating more
18:32 wizzyrea unless you really need to create more
18:36 rangi +1 to general
18:40 jcamins Woohoo! We have running water again!
18:41 rangi yay!
18:46 * rangi is off to hawera today
18:46 rangi 3 days of training in koha and koha sysadmin
18:47 * rangi will leave it as an exercise for the reader to google map it
18:57 nengard gmcharlt I'm for using patron attributes instead of the sort fields
19:00 rangi I'm for using them as well as
19:00 rangi just not adding more
19:01 ibeardslee rangi: enjoy the drive
19:04 rhcl It's on the thing that sticks out on the left.
19:04 rhcl[…]1006,9.876709&z=7
19:04 rangi ibeardslee: coming in for the morning heading off round 12
19:04 rangi taking the whanau too
19:06 rangi ok my stop
19:12 hdl left #koha
19:14 magnus_away is now known as magnuse
19:15 rangi back
19:16 rangi yo people
19:16 magnuse yo rangi!
19:16 rangi i needs me some help
19:16 * druthb perks up and listens.
19:17 rangi bug 3013
19:17 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3013 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, salva, ASSIGNED, Value builder for 006 and 008 need choices for all format types
19:18 rangi this looks good to me, and nicole has signed off
19:18 rangi but i dont understand the 006/008 rules enough to be totally sure
19:18 rangi jcamins: im looking at you
19:18 rangi if i merge and push, can you do a test shortly after :)
19:19 jcamins rangi: let me check if my test VMs are booting today...
19:19 rangi :)
19:20 jcamins Sure. :)
19:20 rangi cool 2 secs
19:21 rangi new/bug_3013
19:22 rangi if you check that out
19:22 rangi its master, plus the new patch
19:23 rangi lemme know if it works the way you think it should, and ill merge (no hurry really, just whenever you have time
19:23 rangi )
19:23 jcamins Sure thing.
19:24 nengard rangi, a cataloger already signed off :)
19:24 rangi yep, but i always like 2 sign offs, and mine isnt worth anything on this
19:24 rangi normally i at least have some understanding what the patch is trying to do :)
19:25 rangi so not replacing your signoff, replacing mine
19:26 * jcamins wonders where he could find a lot of entropy...
19:27 sekjal jcamins:  my office
19:27 jcamins sekjal: wanna feed it to a PRNG?
19:27 druthb my desktop, jcamins.
19:27 jcamins Excellent!
19:28 jcamins druthb: wait, you have a laptop... :P
19:28 druthb yes.  I'm talking the non-digital part of my know, that flat thing where you put papers and lunch and stuff.
19:29 jcamins I tried feeding that to my random number generator, but it didn't work. On the plus side, I found this great coffee holder. ;)
19:32 * wizzyrea imagines entropy in a desk made of a lap, giggles
19:32 collum left #koha
19:32 * jcamins wonders if maybe he should put his external keyboard on the floor and let his cat walk on it.
19:33 wizzyrea i'm reminded of the software that "detects cat-like typing" and wonder if "cat-like" typing is really random or if it's more predictable
19:33 jcamins Argh!
19:35 druthb "random" is an English-language token for "something we haven't figured out how to explain mathematically," in my usage.
19:36 * jcamins is fine with that, but being told "please enter entropy" every time you try to use SSH is really annoying.
19:37 sekjal select pixels' hex values from all over a PNG, then run them through SHA1 hash?
19:37 sekjal just keep providing lots of random pictures
19:39 jcamins sekjal: brilliant!
19:41 * druthb suggests getting an SSH client that doesn't make that request, instead.  Mine doesn't...
19:41 jcamins Normal people don't run out of entropy
19:42 jcamins :)
19:42 druthb I never suspected you were normal, jcamins, from the day I met you.  But mostly, that's a Good Thing.
19:48 gmcharlt problem with using cats as random number generators is if they they catch on, the perverse little creatures will start marching across your keyboard in perfect, non-entropic, lockstep
19:49 druthb I would suggest a teenager as an entropy source, but the costs are kinda high...and mine's pretty darn predictable, really.
19:50 * magnuse wonders if it is possible to "get at" the item level elements of the XML that is passed to MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl - in MARC21slim2OPACResults.xsl?
19:52 gmcharlt magnuse: what do you mean?
19:52 gmcharlt it would just be a matter of modifying the XSLT
19:55 magnuse gmcharlt: yeah, but i cant for the life of me get it to work... i have tried all kinds of permutations of this:
19:55 * magnuse is not very good at xslt...
19:56 gmcharlt magnuse: you need to tack on the items: namespace prefix
19:56 gmcharlt e.g., <xsl:for-each select="//items:item/" ...
19:59 nengard okay, 6 patches signed off and the count of patches that need sign off is down to 140 ... I need to take a nap now and recover from this sickiness
19:59 nengard talk to you all later
20:00 magnuse nengard++
20:00 nengard left #koha
20:04 magnuse gmcharlt++ # the namespace thingy was the missing part of the puzzle - thanks a ton!
20:14 MickeyC joined #koha
20:15 MickeyC is now known as Guest3900
20:15 Guest3900 left #koha
20:22 * magnuse wanders off to get some beauty sleep and wishes all of #koha a wonderful time-of-the-day!
20:22 magnuse left #koha
20:23 francharb left #koha
20:29 jenkins_koha left #koha
20:29 jenkins_koha joined #koha
20:35 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 5830 Using XSLT on OPAC Lists page <[…]f934a711fd0f6fb1c>
20:38 jenkins_koha Starting build 28 for job Koha_master (previous build: SUCCESS)
20:39 druthb left #koha
20:44 mib_gzfau9 joined #koha
20:45 hdl joined #koha
20:47 mib_gzfau9 left #koha
20:57 wizzyrea oleonard: about?
20:57 * wizzyrea fails to read the user list
20:57 wizzyrea never mind :)
20:58 rangi heh
20:58 wizzyrea i wonder if transferring a book ought to offer to print a transit slip (using the transfer function)
21:01 cait joined #koha
21:02 cait hi #koha
21:03 jwagner Hi cait
21:03 cait hi jwagner
21:08 sekjal left #koha
21:10 jenkins_koha Project Koha_master build #28: SUCCESS in 32 mn: http://jenkins.koha-community.[…]b/Koha_master/28/
21:10 jenkins_koha Frédéric Demians: Bug 5830 Using XSLT on OPAC Lists page
21:10 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5830 enhancement, PATCH-Sent, ---, frederic, NEW, Using XSLT on OPAC Lists page
21:12 mib_t279vc joined #koha
21:14 JesseM i know the Koha now does do digital archiving, but is that something that may happen in the future or already in the works??
21:15 JesseM so doesnt do digital archiving
21:16 jcamins JesseM: if you want some sort of digital repository function, you'd be better off using something specifically for that, like Kete.
21:16 cait JesseM: I think there is better software around for that task
21:16 cait like jcamis said
21:16 wizzyrea cataloging and linking to it: koha would be great at
21:16 cait jcamins even
21:17 rangi yeah i concur
21:17 wizzyrea but something else for actual storage and display, imo
21:17 cait jwagner: I see your name on that bug of mine - have you tested it? I am not sure why it didn't work for Nicole
21:17 jwagner Sorry, been jumping around today -- which bug?
21:17 JesseM ok thanks all
21:17 rangi JesseM: koha and kete play nice together
21:17 rangi[…]q=maori+battalion
21:17 rangi see ^
21:19 JesseM thx rangi
21:19 sekjal joined #koha
21:20 wizzyrea oy I think we need to set a cookie or something if you have the masthead library selector and the user changes the drop down
21:20 wizzyrea that is annoying that you have to set it for every search
21:20 cait jwagner: bug 5834
21:20 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5834 normal, PATCH-Sent, ---, katrin.fischer, ASSIGNED, Holds link missing when 942$c is not for loan
21:21 jwagner Oh, yes.  No, haven't tried it yet -- I cc'd myself because it ties in with similar problems I've seen.
21:21 rangi right meeting, bbiab
21:23 jwagner cait, I just passed the link to your bug report on to the developer who's been looking at related problems.
21:24 cait ok, thx
21:26 hdl cait: jwagner: When item is not for loan, it is not holdable. Therefore the link is not meant to appear.
21:27 cait hdl: the question is biblio level itype or item level itype
21:27 jwagner hdl, correct.  The problem we've seen is where there is no 942c and/or there are multiple items on the title (some of which are for loan and some aren't).
21:27 cait at the moment the link does not appear when your item level itypes are perfectly holdable
21:27 jwagner We need it to ignore the 942c altogether and just look at the item level itypes
21:28 cait jwagner: except when you are using biblio level itypes... although I know nobody who does
21:29 jwagner Is biblio-level itypes option one of the holdovers from the earlier Koha version?
21:29 jcamins cait: the ANS does.
21:30 cait jwagner: it's an existing option, yes. Not sure it's a holdover and  it's not deprecated
21:30 hdl jwagner: it is... But it also allows to have ccode and itemtype indexed at biblio level... Since there are electronic documents or journals... which often donot have items
21:31 cait my patch just adds a check for the sys pref and makes it ignore 942 when it's set to item_level_itypes
21:31 jwagner hdl, that makes sense.  I usually just create a dummy item for electronic titles.
21:40 sekjal it'd be really handy if Koha could recognize other types of holdings than physical (952), like electronic (856) and serials (853-5, 863-5), and treat accordingly
21:40 jwagner agreed
21:41 druthb joined #koha
21:44 wizzyrea cait: I just signed off your patch for 1962
21:44 wizzyrea works a treat thanks :)
21:45 cait thx wizzyrea :)
21:46 wizzyrea no no, thank you
21:47 * cait gives up
21:47 cait wizzyrea++
21:47 jwagner Good night, all.
21:47 * wizzyrea gives Cait chocolate fried mochi... like fudge, but ricier!
21:47 wizzyrea cait++ (I'm done, I swear)
21:47 wizzyrea <3
21:47 cait lol
21:47 cait and yummy
21:48 druthb cait++
21:48 cait ts karma war?
21:48 cait druthb++ for being here
21:48 druthb :P
21:48 tcohen left #koha
21:48 jwagner Hey! I'm still here too!
21:49 jcamins wizzyrea: what was that?
21:49 wizzyrea what chocolate fried mochi?
21:49 jcamins No, that other word... fudge!
21:49 hdl left #koha
21:49 wizzyrea jaja
21:49 jcamins But, yes, what is chocolate fried mochi exactly?
21:49 wizzyrea[…]mochi/Detail.aspx
21:50 wizzyrea then, you can FRY it
21:50 jcamins Interesting.
21:50 wizzyrea I didn't do the vinegar and potato starch
21:51 wizzyrea ooo it's the non-stick powder of choice
21:51 wizzyrea i see
21:51 jwagner left #koha
21:51 wizzyrea you basically add cocoa to the rice flour/sugar mixture and nuke
21:52 sekjal mmm
21:52 sekjal with that, goodnight, #koha!
21:52 wizzyrea gnite :)
21:52 nengard joined #koha
21:55 jcamins Time for me to get some sleep and try to recover from this cold, too.
21:55 jcamins Good night, #koha
21:55 jcamins is now known as jcamins_away
21:56 JesseM left #koha
21:58 mib_t279vc left #koha
22:05 NateC joined #koha
22:28 rangi right, off to do some training bbl
22:29 wizzyrea gl
22:31 fcapo left #koha
22:38 nengard left #koha
22:42 bg_ joined #koha
22:42 bg left #koha
22:42 bg_ is now known as bg
22:47 irma joined #koha
23:03 irma left #koha
23:13 mtj joined #koha
23:14 mtj left #koha
23:14 mtj joined #koha
23:26 tcohen joined #koha
23:28 Irma joined #koha
23:31 Irma left #koha
23:32 Irma joined #koha
23:35 cait left #koha
23:36 druthb left #koha
23:39 Irma left #koha
23:39 Irma joined #koha

| Channels | #koha index | Today | | Search | Google Search | Plain-Text | plain, newest first | summary