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Amit |
heya chris, brendan |
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heya amit |
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Snail |
Hi, I'm from Palmerston North LUG. We are looking for speakers for Software freedom day (20 Sept). Can anyone suggest a representative from the Koha community who might be able to help? |
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chris |
hmmm |
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chris |
how technical do you want? |
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chris |
ie, do you want a librarian, or a developer type presentation? |
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richard |
rosalie is next door - literally |
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chris |
yup |
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Quote: On Software Freedom Day (Sept 20) we're going to hold a Palmerston North Linux Users Group Super Meeting - venue to be advised. We need some local businesses to talk for 5 minutes about how they use Open Source. If you know any businesses that may be interested in this free advertising opportunity please get them to contact me. Examples of organisati |
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Snail |
Examples of organisations that might be interested include Churches, ISPs, computer support, telephony, design, programming, schools, etc.: |
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chris |
You could approach the Horowhenua Library Trust, in Levin, who started Koha |
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Snail |
I saw a reference to a P Nth school that had recently switched to Koha but cannot find the link. |
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chris |
hmm im not aware of any |
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Snail |
Do you have a contact phone no. or email address? Their website is vague on such matters. |
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chris |
http://www.library.org.nz/where/ |
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Snail |
Who do I ask for at the Levin library? |
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chris |
Joann Ransom |
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Snail |
Thanks. I'll call her now. Would Koha be the most widely adopted free software suite from NZ do you think? |
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chris |
not sure, |
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chris |
tons of ppl use R |
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robin |
Defining 'from NZ' is tricky. |
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chris |
http://www.r-project.org/ |
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chris |
id just say 'a' widely adopted |
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robin |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W[…]chine_learning%29 <-- also weka, although less so probably |
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Snail |
Of course! Even more if you count Gnumeric users! |
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chris |
there's greenstone too |
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robin |
And firefox :) |
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Snail |
Firefox is pushing it a bit. And it's NZer-inspired usability is slipping of late. |
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robin |
I agree, was more suggesting that defining 'from NZ' isn't so easy. |
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robin |
My own spare-time app must have a thousand or two users, I'm not really sure. |
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http://www.bofh.org.uk/2010/07[…]-of-two-languages <-- chris, and other devs in here |
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kf |
good morning #koha |
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kf |
@wunder Konstanz |
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kf: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.6�C (9:52 AM CEST on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014.1 hPa (Falling). |
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chris |
evening |
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kf |
hi chris |
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Amit |
heya kf |
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kf |
ah, I have a question for you: do you know about planned development for child and parent accounts? |
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kf |
i found bug 3591 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3591 enhancement, P4, ---, chris, NEW, "Family administrator" account for OPAC |
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kf |
and hi Amit |
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kf |
a library asked me about those account, our academic libraries don't use them |
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chris |
yeah |
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chris |
the way it works now, children can be attached to a parent (or a guardian) as a guarantro |
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chris |
guarantor even |
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chris |
which means if the books go missing or whatever there is a adult the library can fine |
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chris |
but they cant do anything like renew the kids books etc |
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chris |
this will allow them to see what their kids have out, renew them, those kind of things |
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chris |
all from their account in the opac |
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chris |
does that make sense? |
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chris |
its not actually that hard to do, mostly its designing the interface |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
thx chris |
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kf |
the public library I presented koha to asked about this features |
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chris |
yep, its on my todo list |
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kf |
is it possible that serials does not respect dataformat? (at all?) |
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magnus |
what do you mean by "respect dataformat"? |
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kf |
dateformat sys pref |
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kf |
metric/us/iso |
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magnus |
ah, ok. sorry, i have no idea about the actual question... |
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kf |
no problem :) was thinking loud |
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kf |
and I don't see this behaviour in my other installation :( |
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kf |
which is slightly older... |
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kf |
ok my fault... just ignore me |
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kf |
lunch :) |
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dagentoob |
hello.... I am having some troble with the Koha LDAP authentication. I can bind to the dir but the password hash doesn't match... anyone have any ideas? |
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dagentoob |
if I enable auth_by_bind I don't get any errors in either error log but it still won't log me in |
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dagentoob |
if I enable it I get "LDAP Auth rejected: invalid password for user 'me'. LDAP error #5: LDAP_COMPARE_FALSE," |
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Amit |
heya dagentoob |
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dagentoob |
heya amit |
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dagentoob |
it is supposed to be dagentooboy.... after the Gentoo distro but it cut it off :D |
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dagentoob |
so any ideas on my LDAP wowes? |
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dagentoob |
woes |
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smustafa |
Good day all :) |
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smustafa |
It seems that with Koha 3.00.00 Z39.50 Search engine does not search by LC Call Number: |
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smustafa |
Any ideas? I am searching like TH7414 .S65 1997. |
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dagentoob |
no ideas on the LDAP? |
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kf |
smustafa have you tried to search for parts of the call number? |
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smustafa |
yes I have actually |
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smustafa |
I tried searching for TH7414 only and nothing |
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smustafa |
same for TH7414 .S65 |
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smustafa |
nothing.... |
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kf |
which search option? |
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kf |
which field is LC call number? |
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kf |
I think . are ignored |
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kf |
@karma Colin |
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munin |
kf: Karma for "Colin" has been increased 14 times and decreased 2 times for a total karma of 12. |
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kf |
Colin++ |
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kf |
smustafa: I can look in the code, but plz tell me the marc field |
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dagentoob |
anyone that could shed some light on the LDAP situation? |
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kf |
dagentoob: perhaps try the mailing lists |
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kf |
dagentoob: I think ldap is not used by a lot of people |
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kf |
on the mailing list more people will read your question |
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dagentoob |
yeah I know... I have found links to some documentation but wiki.koha doesn't seem to exist anymore |
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dagentoob |
thanks |
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kf |
wiki.koha-community.org it is |
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kf |
a backup of the old wiki can be found here: http://librarypolice.com/wiki.koha.org/ but content might be out of date. |
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smustafa |
I will look into the log files and see if there are any errors first, give me a minute |
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smustafa |
It says |
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smustafa |
Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0/ZOOM.pm line 493, <DATA> line 522., referer: http://10.105.42.88:8080/cgi-b[…]g/z3950_search.pl |
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smustafa |
sub search_pqf { my $this = shift(); my($pqf) = @_; my $_rs = Net::Z3950::ZOOM::connection_search_pqf($this->_conn(), $pqf); $this->_check(); return _new ZOOM::ResultSet($this, $pqf, $_rs); } |
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smustafa |
I think $pqf is uninitialized....hmmm why not sure :) |
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kf |
ah, you tried to search for lc call number in cataloging z39.50? |
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smustafa |
Yes :) |
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kf |
I thought in catalog |
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kf |
not sure how that works, perhaps it depends on the client target |
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smustafa |
no in thde z39.50 search :) |
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kf |
not sure all targets support this search option |
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smustafa |
no idea either sadly...I will have to trace it, until some one else comes on and knows the fix :) |
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kf |
hi owen and schuster |
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owen |
Hi |
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jwagner |
Morning, all... |
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kf |
good morning jwagner |
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owen |
gmcharlt around? |
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gmcharlt |
hi woen |
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gmcharlt |
owen, even |
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owen |
Hi gmcharlt, I'm digging into the matching rules interface and have a question if you have time |
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gmcharlt |
sure |
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owen |
Under match points, there are two groupings: search index and score, and tag, subfields etc. |
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owen |
Is that a significant distinction? |
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gmcharlt |
the second group is repeatable |
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owen |
It is? How? |
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gmcharlt |
search index and score correspond to matcher_matchpoints |
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gmcharlt |
tag, subfields, etc corresponding to matchpoint_components; |
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owen |
Theoretically repeatable, or I should be able to do it via the interface? I don't think there is a control to make them repeat |
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kf |
owen, I think you can when you add a new rule, there is a + - |
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owen |
I see links to "add matchpoint" and to "remove matchpoint" but I don't see any link to duplicate the matchpoint_components specifically |
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kf |
let me check |
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kf |
ok, I meant those links: Add matchpoint Remove this matchpoint |
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owen |
That duplicates both the matcher_matchpoints and matchpoint_components. Perhaps that isn't correct? |
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kf |
oh, I also see a link add match check |
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owen |
I think that's another thing entirely |
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kf |
ok, I m confused |
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kf |
:) |
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kf |
owen: what is the problem? |
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owen |
I don't know, I'm waiting for gmcharlt to tell me if there is one :) |
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gmcharlt |
it's more fucntionality that could be implemented in the UI |
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kf |
can you take a look at bug 5088 while waiting? :) |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5088 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, HTML tags in Amazon reviews |
| 13:07 |
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gmcharlt |
but not commonly used |
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kf |
now you were too fast gmcharlt :) |
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owen |
gmcharlt: So if it was possible to duplicate the matchpoint_component fieldset the duplicated data could be saved by Koha? |
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gmcharlt |
yes |
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owen |
Okay, thanks |
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owen |
kf: See also Bug 2712 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2712 minor, P3, ---, gmcharlt, NEW, Invalid 3rd party content ( eg Amazon ) can break page layout |
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* owen |
gets grumpy around Amazon content |
| 13:12 |
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kf |
cookie? :) |
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* jwagner |
catches up a bit |
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* kf |
tries to bribe owen ... hope thats not illegal on #koha |
| 13:13 |
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owen |
I'm too deep into Bug 5006 at the moment. But please, don't every hesitate to bribe :) |
| 13:13 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5006 normal, P5, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED, Invalid XHTML in record matching rules template |
| 13:13 |
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jwagner |
Speaking of matching rules, one of the things I normally do for my new sites is create a combined rule -- OCLC @, LCCN, ISBN, ISSN, etc. so they can use just one rule instead of trying to pick out separate ones. Would this be a useful enhancement. |
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kf |
owen: it's not urgent, only annoying |
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schuster |
howday all! |
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owen |
One more question gmcharlt: I see "Normalization rule" is also marked up with its own ID. |
| 13:17 |
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owen |
Can that one repeat as well? |
| 13:18 |
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gmcharlt |
yes, a matchpoint_component can more than one norm |
| 13:18 |
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gmcharlt |
jwagner: yes, that sounds like useful default data to add |
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owen |
So an additional enhancement would be to enable duplication of that form field as well |
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gmcharlt |
ye |
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* jwagner |
HATES trying to figure out HTML. Just sayin' |
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dagentoob |
if anyone was wondering I kindof solved the LDAP thing |
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dagentoob |
change line 118 in Auth with ladp.pm |
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dagentoob |
to $principal_name = sprintf("uid=%s,cn=users,dc=yourserver,dv=com",$userid); |
| 13:29 |
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dagentoob |
what was happening was that it was trying to bind as just uid.... for some reason my ldap server wouldn't accept that |
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dagentoob |
so I formatted the string just like the other bind() command above |
| 13:31 |
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dagentoob |
anyone know what Patron category you need to get into the backend? I tried staff and it isn't working |
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owen |
It's not by patron category, it's by individual patron privileges |
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owen |
The first thing to do after a new install is log in as your kohaadmin user, create a new patron record for yourself, and give yourself superlibrarian privileges |
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owen |
dagentoob: Do you know where that option is? |
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dagentoob |
no I don't know where that option is |
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dagentoob |
k I just found it |
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dagentoob |
is there a way to make all the LDAP admins have that privledge? |
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* owen |
has no idea |
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kf |
jwagner: I like html :) |
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jwagner |
kf, want to do all of mine??? I'll make the cookies! |
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jwagner |
It just took me half an hour to figure out something that most properly-trained web developers could probably do in 30 seconds. Sigh. |
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kf |
ok, send cookies first ;) |
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jwagner |
What, you want payment in ADVANCE???? |
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* jwagner |
Are Not A Web Developer! |
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jcamins_a |
jwagner: if it makes you feel any better, I only know about six HTML tags, and three of those are html, head, and body. |
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jcamins_a is now known as jcamins |
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* jwagner |
feels a little better, thanks. |
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* jcamins |
is also very impressed by the ability of everyone on #koha to do things with jQuery. |
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kf |
jcamins: I have a cheat sheet for jQuery - changing snippets I learned from owen and others |
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jwagner |
kf, I have one too :-) |
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kf |
and sometimes looking up things on the website |
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jwagner |
I still think if all the Koha libraries in the world would band together & contribute a few bucks, we could hire owen to do fulltime development for us :-) |
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jcamins |
I should learn jQuery. It just seems daunting, and not what I want to spend all my time on. Can't I just plug my brain in somewhere and learn it all instantly? |
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jcamins |
;) |
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owen |
jwagner: I'm willing to evaluate the weight of that sack of money |
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owen |
jcamins: HTML first, then jQuery :P |
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sekjal |
owen: did you have a favourite resource for learning jQuery? |
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jwagner |
owen, you DID say that bribes were welcome! |
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owen |
I highly recommend this book for a good foundation of understanding of JavaScript and HTML manipulation: http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]blionumber=166222 |
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owen |
I think that book gives you a really good starting point for understanding what jQuery does |
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owen |
...even though it doesn't talk about jQuery at all |
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owen |
Everything I know about jQuery I learned piecemeal though. Besides the official jQuery docs, I go back to this time and time again: http://visualjquery.com/ |
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sekjal |
owen: thanks! |
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owen |
Also: http://www.learningjquery.com/ |
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CGI290 |
So I'm importing bibliographic records and I ran into a problem... |
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CGI290 |
I want to input information into marc fields but the records that I imported do not have those fields |
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CGI290 |
Does anyone know how I can add additional fields to the marc records which I have imported? |
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owen |
CGI290: Besides editing each one individually? |
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druthb |
owen: I thought you were writing a mind-reading plugin...or was that for circulation? ;-) |
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CGI290 |
I'm importing the records one by one so adding additional fields to each one individually would not be a problem |
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CGI290: You could either use a tool like MarcEdit to amend the records before import, or you could use the MARC editor in Koha after import |
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owen |
When editing in Koha you'll have to make sure the framework you're editing your records with has the fields you want |
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briceSanc |
hi |
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briceSanc |
I'm trying to import RVM Laval in my Koha, Do i need to use bulkmarcimport.pl or another script ? |
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CGI290 |
owen, I'm using the default framework |
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owen |
does it have the tags you want? |
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owen |
If so then you'll be able to edit those tags in the editor. If not then you'll have to amend the framework so that those tags are present |
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CGI290 |
When I look at the default framework in "Koha Administration", the tags show up. However, not all of the tags which show up there appear when I import a record |
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owen |
CGI290: Do you have an example? |
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owen |
What tag doesn't show up? |
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CGI290 |
tag 880...alternate graphic representation |
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CGI290 |
that is the specific tag that I want to add to the records I'm importing |
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ebegin |
briceSanc, RVM are authorities, not bibliographic records |
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owen |
CGI290: It looks like that tags subfields are all hidden in the MARC editor because of the configuration of the default framework |
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kf |
CGI290: which version of koha are u using? |
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kf |
880 tags will show up in opac/staff with xslt and 3.1... not in 3.0.x |
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CGI290 |
koha 3.01 |
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kf |
3.0.1? |
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owen |
kf: But we're talking about the tag showing up in the editor |
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kf |
owen: sorry :) |
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CGI290 |
3.01.00.143 |
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owen |
CGI290: Do you know how to edit a tag's subfields in framework administration? |
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kf |
CGI290: ok, it will display with that version - and owen is right, first you need to add them in the editor |
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CGI290 |
owen: i can go to "koha administration" then "marc bibliographic framework" |
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CGI290 |
that shows me a list of frameworks: default, audio cassettes, books, etc |
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CGI290 |
is that correct? |
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owen |
Then click 'MARC structure' for the default framework |
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CGI290 |
ok |
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owen |
Search for tag 880 |
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CGI290 |
ok |
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owen |
Click the "Subfields" link for 880 |
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CGI290 |
ok |
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owen |
Click the "Edit Subfields" button at the bottom of that page |
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CGI290 |
ok |
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owen |
You should now be on a page titled "Tag 880 Subfield Constraints" |
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CGI290 |
yep |
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owen |
I don't know anything about tag 880, so I don't know which subfields you need |
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owen |
For the ones you want to show, click that tab, then click "display more constraints" |
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CGI290 |
ok |
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CGI290 |
should I do something to the "hidden" box |
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owen |
Yes. Does it say "-6" ? |
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CGI290 |
yes |
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CGI290 |
should I change it? |
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owen |
Scroll to the top of the page and click the help link [?] in the upper right hand corner of the screen |
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owen |
The help info shows all the different values for hidden and what they do |
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owen |
You probably want "0" |
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owen |
brb |
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CGI290 |
do I need to make that same change to all of the subfields? |
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kf |
CGI290: to all subfields you want to show, yes |
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CGI290 |
thnx |
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owen |
I hope that means success |
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kf |
CGI290: in order to make the display work correctly you will need to add a correct $6 with tag and language code |
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kf |
CGI290: one of our libraries is using 880 for hebrew: https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin[…]iblionumber=30613 |
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kf |
owen: I tested your patch for bug 4924 - it works nice :) |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4924 major, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Public/Internal notes missing in staff normal view |
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kf |
but I will change the severity to enh and rel3_4 - it seems the notes were never displayed. ok for you? |
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owen |
No big deal to me |
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owen |
Interesting that Liblime.com's information about Koha Express no longer specifies which version you'll get. |
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owen |
" the most current Koha Project release." 3.0.6 ? |
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owen |
If you go to the demo page it says "3.0.3." |
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owen |
Not exactly current. |
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owen |
Make it difficult to offer help in the mailing list |
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kf |
hm, she wrote it's not on the website, perhaps she can still check the about page? |
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zer0c00l |
Hi, I am new to koha and i am no librarian . I am trying to stage a marc record. Where can i get a sample marc record for upload? |
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owen |
zer0c00l: You could save one from a public Koha OPAC: http://search.myacpl.org/cgi-b[…]iblionumber=16595 |
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owen |
"Save record" in the menu on the right |
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zer0c00l |
owen: Thank you. Doing it |
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zer0c00l |
owen: How do i add new book information into koha? I added a marc record. Do i have to edit the imported record to add new? |
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owen |
Do you mean to add copies? |
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zer0c00l |
owen: new book |
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zer0c00l |
not copies |
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owen |
You can create new bibliographic records from scratch. |
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owen |
Cataloging -> Add MARC Record |
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zer0c00l |
owen: There i see lot of numbers and descriptions. The librarian has very little idea about MARC records, is there any way to disable them and create user friendly bibliographic records? |
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owen |
You could create your own simplified framework, but it's a tedious process. |
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zer0c00l |
owen: ok |
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zer0c00l |
so each time i want to add a new book into the system , do i need to "Add a MARC record" ? |
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owen |
If you want to create a record from scratch, yes. |
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owen |
You could also do a z3950 search to grab a record from someone else's system. |
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zer0c00l |
owen: ok. Thank you. I got it. |
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zer0c00l |
I am creating a new MARC framework, i need to delete lot of tags to make it short , It is really pain to delete them individually. Is there any short way to do it? |
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owen |
Unfortunately the only alternative is to do it directly via MySQL |
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jcamins |
zer0c00l: I don't think so. You might better off just hiding all the tags instead of deleting them. |
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jcamins |
If you delete all the tags, I think that means that you wouldn't be able to do copy cataloging with Z39.50. |
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zer0c00l |
jcamins: How do i hide them? |
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zer0c00l |
owen: I will check the mysql tables :-) |
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jcamins |
It explains in the manual. |
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jcamins |
Let me find it for you. Hold on. |
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zer0c00l |
ok |
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jcamins |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x3725#AEN3728 |
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jcamins |
Under 1.4.1.4. |
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jcamins |
Set hidden to 6 for each subfield you don't want to show. |
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zer0c00l |
jcamins: ok |
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jcamins |
It's very, very tedious. |
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nengard |
jcamins i have an enhancement request in place for making editing the frameworks easier |
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jcamins |
nengard++ |
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nengard |
jcamins can't seem to find it anymore ... hmmmm - off to hunt some more |
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nengard |
bug 1289 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=1289 enhancement, P5, ---, paul.poulain, NEW, Bulk/global edit for MARC frameworks |
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nengard |
wasn't me who reported it apparently |
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nengard |
but i'm on the cc list :) hehe |
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nengard |
i'd add that frameworks is 'developereese' and 'templates' is the language that catalogers use |
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owen |
That bug is going to take some funding. No one wants to wade into it unaccompanied I'm sure. |
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zer0c00l |
All i have to do is set the hidden column of marc_subfield_structure table to 6 :) |
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kf |
owen: template question - is there a standard class or something to use on fields to make them longer or just increase the size attribute? (bug 4979 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4979 enhancement, P5, ---, oleonard, NEW, Acq: input fields for new record are too short |
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owen |
Input field length is determined by the input's "size" attribute |
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Drakmor |
Hey, how do I get kbarcode to connect to our server? I'm thinking I'm putting in the wrong information... but I'm not sure. Also, where can I find info about updating koha 3.0 to 3.2? |
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kf |
owen: just wanted to make sure - I dont want to change something when there is a better method or something that is used everywhere else |
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owen |
kf: But inputs sie can be affected by CSS if you want to. You'd have to target that particular set of inputs |
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owen |
I'm not sure where that "sie" came from. |
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kf |
owen: I know, but I thought this change would be useful for everyone |
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owen |
In this case altering the template is the correct thing to do |
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kf |
but I will hide some things in acq with css - fields I could not make any sense of :) |
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kf |
display:none can be really helpful |
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owen |
There's lots in acq I can't make sense of |
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sekjal |
Drakmor: Koha 3.2 will automatically upgrade your 3.0 database when installed. |
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Drakmor |
ok, I just install it like a new system? |
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sekjal |
Drakmor: did you install your 3.0 instance from the tar file, or from git? |
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Drakmor |
I used the live CD.... so I don't know the method the author used. |
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sekjal |
Drakmor: ah. well, in either case, you'd want to run: perl Makefile.PL --prev-install-log /path/to/koha-install-log |
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sekjal |
to keep all the same configurations |
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sekjal |
you'l have to find koha-install-log, first, which will be in a different place depending on the install type |
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Drakmor |
sure... at this point, the only reason I'm considering an upgrade is to get the improved barcoding... if kbarcode works, I would perfer to use it |
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Drakmor |
I've installed it, but it doesn't seem to want to connect.... |
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sekjal |
hmmm, haven't messed with kbarcode before... |
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Drakmor |
ok... I'm probably just putting in the wrong stuff to request a connection. |
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mib_mike |
Hi guys |
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mib_mike |
Is there any way to delete a group of item or bib records by a list of barcodes or bibnumbers? |
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kf |
mib_mike: 3.2 will have a tool for bulk delete |
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kf |
for items, not sure about bib records, but I think that will not be possible |
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mib_mike |
Why wouldn't it be possible? |
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kf |
I think there is no built in feature to bulk delete records. |
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kf |
not in the UI, but I think you can script something - perhaps someone else knows how you can do that on command line or with scripts |
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mib_mike |
If someone can whip up some recommended SQL, I'd appreciate it. |
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kf |
sql is not the only thing you need to think of, it's a lot of tables and reindexing (and perhaps you will get problems if items were issued, ordered in acq...) |
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kf |
not sure how to do that |
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kf |
perhaps ask on list or a bit later when people from a different time zone are awake |
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kf |
bye all |
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owen |
opac-MARCdetail.pl: Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /opac/opac-MARCdetail.pl line 143 |
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owen |
? |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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jwagner |
hi cait |
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cait |
will you tell me to stop working? |
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owen |
Stop working! |
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cait |
I was talking to jwagner... ;) |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 34.0�C (3:40 PM EDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 27.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect from 11 am to 7 PM EDT Thursday... |
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cait |
owen: thx for my amazon bug :) |
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jwagner |
OK, cait, STOP WORKING! |
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cait |
hmpf. |
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jwagner |
(your wish is my command....) |
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owen |
@wunder 45701 |
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munin |
owen: The current temperature in Ohio University, Athens, Ohio is 22.8�C (3:45 PM EDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Light Thunderstorms and Rain. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 20.0�C. Pressure: 29.74 in 1007.0 hPa (Falling). Severe Thunderstorm Watch 567 in effect until 9 PM EDT this evening... |
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* chris_n |
thinks a heat index of 47.2 C is too hight |
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cait |
ok, she is convincing... |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Taegerwilen, Taegerwilen, Germany is 15.3�C (9:48 PM CEST on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: 13.0�C. Pressure: 29.80 in 1009.0 hPa (Falling). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.4�C (12:45 PM PDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 71%. Dew Point: 14.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
jwagner: does the wish thing work with cookies too? |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder lawrence KS |
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wizzyrea |
@wunder 66047 |
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munin |
wizzyrea: The current temperature in Lawrence Live-Courtesy of the Khoury's, Lawrence, Kansas is 30.3�C (2:52 PM CDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.89 in 1012.1 hPa (Rising). |
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wizzyrea |
oh, well that could be worse I guess |
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JeremyLC |
what is the number? (GPS coords?) |
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jcamins |
JeremyLC: post code. |
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jwagner |
cait, with virtual cookies anyway :-) |
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JeremyLC |
oh, right |
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JeremyLC |
@wunder 76019 |
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munin |
JeremyLC: The current temperature in Shady Valley West, Arlington, Texas is 36.2�C (2:52 PM CDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 46%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.87 in 1011.4 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect until 9 PM CDT Thursday... |
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cait |
jwagner: that's a start |
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jcamins |
@wunder 11105 |
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munin |
jcamins: The current temperature in Astoria, Astoria, New York is 31.9�C (3:50 PM EDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 24.0�C. Pressure: 29.79 in 1008.7 hPa (Falling). Heat advisory in effect from 1 PM this afternoon to 8 PM EDT Thursday... |
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jcamins |
At least it isn't as hot as Texas. |
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JeremyLC |
the high was 40 today |
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cait |
it's cold here - it's still supposed to be summer :( |
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JeremyLC |
and, supposedly, somewhere around 43 for the week (C, not F) |
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cait |
still fighting with bug 5090 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5090 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, New order from empty record does not save publication year and ISBN |
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jcamins |
cait: didn't jwagner tell you to stop working a little while ago? |
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cait |
oh... |
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* cait |
hides |
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jcamins |
jwagner: don't worry... _I_ still find you daunting. ;) |
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* jwagner |
has no wish to be daunting to anyone. Except druthb and whoever is annoying me that day. |
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jwagner |
But I did bring a baseball bat into the office a week or two ago, when I was being exceptionally aggravated by certain persons who shall be nameless. |
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wizzyrea |
... |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: by the way, how did your curry coconut oatmeal chocolate chip cookies come out? |
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wizzyrea |
I haven't had a chance to make them yet >.< |
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cait |
what is the difference between biblio.copyrightdate and biblioitems.publicatonyear? one is used by marc21 and the other by unimarc *grumbles* |
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jcamins |
cait: I think publicationyear may be linked to the 260 in MARC21, whereas copyrightdate is linked to the 008. It's ugly. |
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cait |
nope |
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jcamins |
Oh. |
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cait |
copyrightdate is 260 c by default |
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cait |
and publicationyear is not mapped at all |
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jcamins |
Hm. Never mind then. |
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cait |
which is the reason you can't save the publication year in new orders in acq |
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cait |
jcamins: it would be to easy if you were right ;) |
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jcamins |
You won't be so sure when you start trying to understand dates in Zebra. :P |
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cait |
oh I know about them - forced my coworker to add 008 to the data we are migrating right now :) |
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chris |
monring |
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cait |
hi chris |
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jcamins |
Morning. |
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brendan |
morning chris |
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chris |
congrats on goddard college brendan |
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chris |
came at a very timely moment for us too |
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brendan |
"came at a very timely moment for us too" - not following |
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brendan |
and thanks :) |
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chris |
well, its a move from vtls virtua ils right? |
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brendan |
yup |
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chris |
will help us out with an rfp response |
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brendan |
chris++ |
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cait |
:( |
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cait |
someone willing to help me with perl? |
| 20:34 |
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jwagner |
Willing, yes. Able, it depends :-) |
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chris |
:) |
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richard |
hi |
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chris |
hi richard |
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richard |
hey chris |
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cait |
jwagner: give me a minute to reconstruct the original code |
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jwagner |
chris & others online can probably help -- they're better at Perl than I am |
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cait |
I really need to work on the basics :( |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/36 |
| 20:40 |
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cait |
I think the addorder script must use different fields in koha-to-marc-mapping for unimarc and marc21 - publicationyear is not mapped for marc21, only for unimarc. marc21 has 260c mapped to biblio.copyrightdate |
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cait |
but I m not sure how to get my if clause in there... I tried repeating the whole block for a start, but after that it was complaining |
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jwagner |
Why are there two $$ with your variables? e.g., "biblio.title" => "$$orderinfo{title}" |
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jwagner |
Is that in your code, or just a screenpaste thing? |
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cait |
not my variables :) |
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cait |
no, it's in the code |
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cait |
but everything above ---- is the original code from acqui/addorder.pl |
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chris |
jwagner and cait $$orderinfo{title} is the same as $orderinfo->{title} |
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chris |
i prefer the latter as it is much more readable |
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cait |
you are right |
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jwagner |
OK, that explains the $$, then. Never noticed that construction before. |
| 20:43 |
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cait |
I think the ? : construction checks if the variable exists? but why does it not check author - its not required in the form |
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jwagner |
Are you trying to do the syspref check within the my $record section? |
| 20:44 |
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cait |
oh, and isbn is not saving although it seems to be mapped correctly |
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cait |
hm, no. |
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chris |
do you really want to map publication year to copyrightdate? |
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cait |
I tried repeating the whole block (although I know its not good, but to have something working I could try to make better) |
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cait |
chris: I see no better solution |
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chris |
but surely publication year should map to publicationyear? |
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cait |
it is not mapped like this now |
| 20:45 |
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cait |
marc21 maps to copyrightdate |
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jwagner |
I've generally found it easier to do the syspref check before the my $record type section, enter the value in a generic variable, then use that variable instead of the $$orderinfo{publicationyear} |
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cait |
don't ask me wh |
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cait |
y |
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cait |
ah |
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jwagner |
so pseudo code would be if UNIMARC, $mypubyear = the one field, elsif MARC21, $mypubyear = the other field, then in the record construct, biblioitems.publicationyear = $mypubyear |
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chris |
cait: ahh i see what you mean in marc21 publicationyear is not mapped to anything |
| 20:47 |
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cait |
yep |
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cait |
bug 5090 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5090 critical, P5, ---, henridamien, NEW, New order from empty record does not save publication year and ISBN |
| 20:48 |
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chris |
ok what i would do |
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chris |
is leave it being saved to biblioitems.publicationyear |
| 20:48 |
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chris |
but if its MARC21 also save it to biblio.copyrightdate |
| 20:48 |
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chris |
lemme just write it up for ya |
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cait |
chris: thx, I have something working now... but I think it's not the best code |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
your solution sounds better |
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cait |
not depending on a marcformat :) |
| 20:49 |
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jwagner |
Yes, definitely easier than coding it. |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/37 <- what jwagner said (or at least I think so :) ) |
| 20:51 |
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pastebot |
"chris" at 202.78.240.7 pasted "if ( $orderinfo->{quantity} ne" (17 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/38 |
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jwagner |
cait, that isn't quite right -- you can't have the $publicationyear as the first piece on line. See chris's version |
| 20:52 |
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cait |
but it works |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
chris: I am not sure I understand your comments |
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chris |
mapping publicationyear to copyrightdate is a bad hack |
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cait |
remove the line or the comment after the bug is fixed? |
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chris |
its not the same thing at all |
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cait |
ah |
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cait |
ok |
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chris |
the whole line |
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chris |
copyrightdate should go to copyrightdate ;) |
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cait |
but if its the standard for 260c - I think it would be much more complicated to change that |
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moodaepo |
@wunder 56001 |
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munin |
moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 30.9�C (3:59 PM CDT on August 04, 2010). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 44%. Dew Point: 17.0�C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013.1 hPa (Falling). |
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chris |
260c is not copyright |
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cait |
oh |
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chris |
@marc 260c |
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munin |
chris: unknown tag 260c |
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cait |
no |
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chris |
@marc 260 |
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munin |
chris: Information relating to the publication, printing, distribution, issue, release, or production of a work. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,e,f,g,3,6,8] |
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chris |
@marc 260 c |
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munin |
chris: Date of publication, distribution, etc. May contain multiple dates (e.g., dates of publication and copyright). (Repeatable) |
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chris |
or not just copyright anyway :) |
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chris |
marc is stupid |
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cait |
not my fault |
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cait |
;) |
| 20:55 |
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chris |
yep |
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chris |
@marc 260 a |
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munin |
chris: Place of publication, distribution, etc. May contain the abbreviation [S.l.] when the place is unknown. (Repeatable) |
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chris |
@marc 260 e |
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munin |
chris: Place of manufacture (Repeatable) |
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cait |
but you can not easily change that... I think even with a database update it would be not easy |
| 20:56 |
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cait |
because people can change that |
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chris |
yes, but we should still be saving BOTH |
| 20:57 |
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cait |
and will have different settings in their installations... I am not sure looking those fields up this way is a good solution |
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cait |
so why only save both for marc21 and not for unimarc too? |
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chris |
we arent saving both for either |
| 20:58 |
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chris |
not in the marc records |
| 20:58 |
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chris |
what we are doing, is at least storing it in the db for marc21 as publicationyear |
| 20:58 |
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cait |
it will not save |
| 20:59 |
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chris |
the real fix is have both publicationyear and copyright mapped to a different field |
| 20:59 |
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cait |
hm perhaps I am missing something in marc21 here |
| 20:59 |
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chris |
because they arent the same thing |
| 21:01 |
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cait |
If the date of copyright acts as a surrogate for the date of publication, it must be recorded in subfield $c (Date of publication, distribution, etc.) preceded by the appropriate copyright or phonogram copyright symbol. Additionally, it may be recorded in subfield $g (Copyright date) of field 542 (Information relating to copyright status). |
| 21:01 |
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chris |
yeah |
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cait |
confusing |
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chris |
so if you dont know the date of publication |
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chris |
use the copyrightdate |
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jcamins |
542 is mostly only used in archives, to the best of my knowledge. |
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chris |
if you do know both the copyrightdate and publicationdate you are out of luck because marc is retarded |
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jcamins |
Not that this my knowledge is definitive, of course. |
| 21:02 |
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cait |
ok, we already knew that |
| 21:03 |
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cait |
any idea why I can't save the isbn? |
| 21:03 |
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chris |
to get round this, i would store the copyright in 542g |
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cait |
I found a reason for the publication year but the mapping for isbn seams correct to me |
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chris |
and publicationdate in 260c |
| 21:03 |
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chris |
then at least you dont lose data |
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cait |
chris: but what will we do with all the installations that used copyrightdate to store the publicationdate? |
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chris |
fix them |
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chris |
what if you want to search on publicationdate |
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chris |
you cant |
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chris |
we dont have it |
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chris |
because its hard to fix isnt a reason to leave it broken :) |
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cait |
ok. why do I always find these confusing bugs? |
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cait |
I started with a small template change today... |
| 21:04 |
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jcamins |
Because you're an awesome tester? :) |
| 21:05 |
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cait |
bugnetic.. or something |
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chris |
does $$orderinfo{isbn} have data in it? |
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cait |
I have no idea how to test that, I tried reading the code and found nothing obviously wrong |
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cait |
it starts as a form in neworderempty.tmpl |
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chris |
warn $$orderinfo{isbn}; |
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chris |
before that block, then look in the error log |
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chris |
maybe |
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chris |
warn "KATRIN TEST: isbn = $orderinfo{isbn}"; |
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chris |
warn "KATRIN TEST: isbn = $$orderinfo{isbn}"; |
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chris |
even |
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chris |
then you can go |
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chris |
tail -f /path/to/error.log | grep "KATRIN" |
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cait |
hm compilaton error |
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cait |
added your code and tried adding a new record |
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chris |
yeah im just typing into the window here |
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chris |
so i wouldnt guarantee im not making syntax errors |
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cait |
ok, found one mistake ; instead of , |
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cait |
hm still unhappy |
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cait |
Global symbol "$record" requires explicit package name at /home/katrin/kohaclone/acqui/addorder.pl line 205. |
| 21:13 |
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cait |
and 3 syntax errors in lines I did not touch |
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chris |
can you paste what you have |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/39 |
| 21:16 |
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chris |
yeah my bad |
| 21:17 |
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chris |
lets just take that if out |
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chris |
"biblio.copyrightdate" => $$orderinfo{publicationyear}, |
| 21:17 |
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chris |
like you say, no harm doing it for unimarc too |
| 21:17 |
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cait |
ah |
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chris |
also before the my $record line |
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chris |
you could put |
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chris |
use Data::Dumper; |
| 21:18 |
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cait |
isbn is suddenly showing... |
| 21:18 |
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chris |
warn Dumper $orderinfo; |
| 21:18 |
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cait |
but year not... will try with a new record |
| 21:20 |
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* cait |
is totally confused now |
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cait |
ok, added new record, filled out all fields, saved |
| 21:20 |
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cait |
now: year is not shown, but isbn |
| 21:20 |
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cait |
I never got it to show the isbn before, but why is the year not there? |
| 21:20 |
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chris |
yeah what you want to do is find out what is in the $orderinfo variable |
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JeremyLC |
hmm, using koha 3.1 it appears to have a fully implemented auth_by_bind feature, except for the part where it actually does anything :-/ |
| 21:21 |
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chris |
so we can actually see what it is trying to save |
| 21:21 |
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cait |
ah, the year shows up in the marc record |
| 21:21 |
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cait |
so there is perhaps someting wrong with the display in acw |
| 21:21 |
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cait |
acq |
| 21:22 |
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chris |
could be |
| 21:23 |
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chris |
it might be trying to use biblioitems.publicationyear which isnt mapped |
| 21:23 |
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chris |
in marc21, so would work in unimarc |
| 21:23 |
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cait |
yeah, I think you are right, there is one more place |
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jwagner |
Unlike cait, I'm going to quit working overtime for the day :-) See you all tomorrow.... |
| 21:24 |
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cait |
jwagner: thx for your help :) |
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chris |
cya |
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cait |
I just want to solve it... or I will dream about it |
| 21:29 |
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cait |
chris: does this look ok? (it works... but still) |
| 21:29 |
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cait |
publicationyear => $data->{'publicationyear'} ? $data->{'publicationyear'} : $data->{'copyrightdate'}, |
| 21:30 |
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cait |
what I wanted to do is if publicatonyear has data, use it, otherwise use copyrightdate |
| 21:30 |
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chris |
that should work yes |
| 21:30 |
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cait |
cool :) |
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jcamins |
I'm going to follow jwagner's example. |
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jcamins |
Good luck. |
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cait |
hm isbn is broken again :(... |
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JeremyLC |
with auth-by-bind enabled I can successfully bind with the user-supplied credentials and still be told the username or password is invalid because the account cannot be looked up in the directory, this despite the fact that I have replication AND updating disabled (it shouldn't be looking me up, only authenticating) |
| 21:44 |
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cait |
and now publicaton year does not work |
| 21:44 |
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cait |
should go to bed |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
chris: thx for all your help - learned a bit more about perl :) |
| 21:45 |
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chris |
you really need a warn in there before you do the transform |
| 21:45 |
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chris |
to check what is in orderinfo .. then we can track the problem down properly |
| 21:45 |
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chris |
but get some sleep :) |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
at least the data is now saved in the marc record |
| 21:48 |
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chris |
yup |
| 21:49 |
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cait |
display problems... perhaps I can live with that until tomorrow |
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cait |
good night all :) |
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cait |
chris: the publication year of my new records is not saved to copyrightdate or publicatonyear - so it can not be displayed :( |
| 21:59 |
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cait |
hope I will find out tomorrow |
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cait |
really leaving now :) |
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cait |
bye |
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chilts |
morning all |
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chris |
hey chilts |
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chilts |
:) |
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chris |
how was takaka? |
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chilts |
good, apart from Sunday (wet and rain), it's hotter there than Wgtn is in the summer though :) |
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chilts |
saw the nieces and nephew lots, so that was fun |
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chris |
cool |
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chilts |
how goes it in Koha land? |
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chris |
busy, but good ;) |
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chilts |
good :) |
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* chilts |
now has less than 10 irc channels open :) |
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imp |
chilts: using irssi? |
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chilts |
yep, it's all working now :) |
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chilts |
got my auto joins up and going and now have a small and simple config |
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imp |
hit esc and the one from {q,w,e,r,t,z} ;) -> window 11-15 |
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chilts |
yep, know that one :) |
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imp |
ok :) |
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chilts |
just commenting that my list is now a lot smaller than it used to be |
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chilts |
back later |
