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| 00:00 |
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chris |
probably not |
| 00:01 |
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chris |
we have a history of electing property developers, or ppl who have property developers as spouses |
| 00:01 |
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chris |
who then do retarded things for the next 3 years |
| 00:01 |
|
chris |
and then we do it all again |
| 00:01 |
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slef |
ah, march of the asshats |
| 00:02 |
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reed |
I learn a new word everyday |
| 00:02 |
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robin |
reed: march? |
| 00:02 |
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slef |
yesterday scads, today asshats |
| 00:03 |
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slef |
tomorrow EBW? |
| 00:03 |
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slef |
I'll accept nominations |
| 00:30 |
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| 02:29 |
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chris |
ohh nice work |
| 02:29 |
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chris |
way to burn up your goodwill |
| 02:29 |
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chris |
http://koha.org/ |
| 02:30 |
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richard |
jeepers |
| 02:32 |
|
chris |
its like they have a compulsion or something |
| 02:32 |
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chris |
'what can we do to piss off the community today' |
| 02:46 |
|
chilts |
they calling their version of Koha, Harley? |
| 02:46 |
|
chilts |
hmm |
| 02:46 |
|
chilts |
not quite |
| 02:46 |
|
chris |
they are passing it off as a koha release |
| 02:46 |
|
chris |
instead of their own release |
| 02:47 |
|
chris |
also im pretty sure thats not how you spell maintained |
| 02:47 |
|
jo |
I think they truly don't get it |
| 02:47 |
|
chris |
or don't want to get it |
| 02:48 |
|
jo |
maybe Kelly is some poor kid thrown in the deep end, new grad, no experience etc |
| 02:48 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 02:48 |
|
chilts |
so their patches are from ages ago, so that's like 3.0 with some stuff, rather than wait for 3.2 |
| 02:48 |
|
chilts |
that right? |
| 02:48 |
|
chris |
thats right |
| 02:48 |
|
chris |
dont get me wrong there is some nice stuff in there |
| 02:49 |
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jo |
shouldn't the koha release manager for 3.2 issue an official; statement clarifying what Harley is and isn't? |
| 02:49 |
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chris |
and doing their own release is all well and good |
| 02:49 |
|
chris |
but pretending its a koha release is the problem |
| 02:49 |
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jo |
like its a perfectly valid and wonderful thing - but its not Koha. its lek |
| 02:49 |
|
chilts |
also, Harley _isn't_ "currently maintened [sic] by a team of software providers and library technology staff from around the world" |
| 02:49 |
|
chris |
its not lek jo |
| 02:49 |
|
chris |
there is none of lek code in it |
| 02:49 |
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jo |
well whatever it is it isn't koha |
| 02:49 |
|
chris |
this is old ptfs code |
| 02:49 |
|
chilts |
jo: good idea, it needs to be clarified |
| 02:50 |
|
jo |
its noty an official koha release is what i mean |
| 02:50 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 02:50 |
|
chris |
mind you, thats on not the official koha site either ;) |
| 02:50 |
|
chilts |
and to add even more to the mix, their site _still_ sucks :) |
| 02:50 |
|
richard |
:0 |
| 02:50 |
|
chris |
it would be so much better if that just pointed to the official site |
| 02:51 |
|
reed |
so, are we sure a koha.org dispute resolution try wouldn't work? |
| 02:52 |
|
reed |
there 3 tests and I think they would be able to keep it base on one of them which is loosely "has some legitimate use of the domain" |
| 02:53 |
|
chris |
i think the TM would clinch it |
| 02:53 |
|
reed |
(may english is normally better than this) |
| 02:53 |
|
reed |
you think? |
| 02:53 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 02:53 |
|
reed |
hard to be sure |
| 02:54 |
|
chris |
getting the domain back would be nice, but i like koha-community.org better now anyway |
| 02:55 |
|
reed |
me too, except for the name |
| 02:55 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 02:55 |
|
chris |
ptfs-- |
| 02:56 |
|
chris |
its like they have a need to balance anything positive with a pile of negative |
| 02:56 |
|
jo |
I wish they could have just made the code available and then enjoyed the warmth of a grateful community |
| 02:57 |
|
chris |
*nod* |
| 02:57 |
|
jo |
given the relationship time to warm up |
| 02:58 |
|
reed |
anyhows, seems like there does need to be a community statement that this is an unsupported unofficial release by a private party |
| 02:58 |
|
chris |
you know what im sick of |
| 02:58 |
|
reed |
who's the right person to do that? |
| 02:58 |
|
reed |
chris, what? |
| 02:58 |
|
chris |
some ptfs clients |
| 02:58 |
|
chris |
im not sick of them |
| 02:58 |
|
chris |
those are the right ppl to do this |
| 02:58 |
|
reed |
ptfs clients? |
| 02:58 |
|
chris |
im sick of us hving to be the ppl to say these things |
| 02:58 |
|
reed |
why? |
| 02:59 |
|
chris |
cos its their code |
| 02:59 |
|
chris |
thats being misrepresented |
| 02:59 |
|
reed |
it wont get said otherwise |
| 02:59 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 02:59 |
|
chris |
and thats what im sick of |
| 03:00 |
|
reed |
what I see is ptfs saying "here's a koha release that is community supported" |
| 03:00 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 03:00 |
|
reed |
so, it really does need to be the community that says "oh, hey, wait, wrong number dude" |
| 03:00 |
|
chris |
yes |
| 03:00 |
|
chris |
and the community is everybody |
| 03:00 |
|
* chris_n |
submits the final revision of his dependency centralization code |
| 03:01 |
|
chris |
anyone can make a post on the koha-community website thats the point |
| 03:01 |
|
chris |
i just hate it having to be the same old suspects always saying it |
| 03:01 |
|
reed |
should vendors take a lead? I don't want someone calling us up expecting to get Harley support |
| 03:01 |
|
chris |
itd be nice if users exercised their voice a bit too |
| 03:01 |
|
chris |
not just the developers |
| 03:02 |
|
chris |
because we get dismissed, especially those of us who for a vendor |
| 03:02 |
|
chris |
thats why i appreciate people like chris_n, and owen and lee who stand up to be counted |
| 03:02 |
|
chris |
and of course liz and the other kansasians |
| 03:03 |
|
reed |
some will, but most don't have time and or an understanding of the nuances and why the distinction is key |
| 03:03 |
|
chris |
yes, but i think one of us saying it, will be dismissed |
| 03:03 |
|
chris |
the same way as our account of the conference call was dismissed |
| 03:04 |
|
reed |
not sure I agree |
| 03:04 |
|
reed |
one vendor is one voice tho |
| 03:05 |
|
reed |
it's only meaningful if others speak -- but as well and not instead of |
| 03:05 |
|
chris |
yep, and maybe first for a change |
| 03:05 |
|
reed |
chris, you worry too much |
| 03:05 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 03:06 |
|
richard |
someone has to :0 |
| 03:06 |
|
chris |
guess im just not feeling the love this week |
| 03:06 |
|
chris_n |
ptfs needs to hire a web designer imho |
| 03:06 |
|
reed |
you need a ficshburger |
| 03:06 |
|
* richard |
wonders about the lack coordinatin between little finger and shift key |
| 03:06 |
|
chris_n |
the koha.org site looks terrible |
| 03:06 |
|
reed |
I'll be in the office tomorrow, I'll buy |
| 03:07 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 03:07 |
|
* chris_n |
will obviously have to bump the licensing thread |
| 03:07 |
|
reed |
w/beets and cheese and a perkynana thickshake |
| 03:07 |
|
chris |
hehe |
| 03:08 |
|
chris |
do they make those? |
| 03:08 |
|
reed |
yes |
| 03:08 |
|
chris |
we should get richard to meet us for a fishburger sometime |
| 03:08 |
|
reed |
tomorrow? |
| 03:08 |
|
chris |
do you know offbeat burgers in leftbank richard? |
| 03:08 |
|
* richard |
partial to the fishburger |
| 03:08 |
|
richard |
was just going to ask where you went |
| 03:08 |
|
robin |
reed: did I hear you saying you're buying? |
| 03:08 |
|
robin |
:) |
| 03:09 |
|
reed |
eh |
| 03:09 |
|
reed |
only rangi's |
| 03:09 |
|
richard |
never been there - i'm overwhelmed by the number of takeaways in island bay as it is |
| 03:09 |
|
reed |
i hear maranui cafe is reopening |
| 03:10 |
|
chris |
richard: we do lunches there quite often, sounds like we will be tomorrrow :) |
| 03:11 |
|
richard |
actually mightn't be able to make it tomorrow. i'm filling in for rach on some breakfast do |
| 03:11 |
|
richard |
which will eat up quite a bit of my day |
| 03:11 |
|
richard |
but next week for sure |
| 03:11 |
|
reed |
cool |
| 03:13 |
|
chris |
excellet |
| 03:13 |
|
chris |
+n |
| 03:24 |
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chris |
heya brendan |
| 03:26 |
|
chris |
ohh and nice work on the dependencies chris_n |
| 03:26 |
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chris |
chris_n++ |
| 03:27 |
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brendan |
heya chris |
| 03:29 |
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chris |
hi Amit_G |
| 03:43 |
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brendan |
heya Amit_G |
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Amit_G |
heya chris, brendan |
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UPL_Begz |
hi all |
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mason |
any PTFS-ers about? |
| 05:43 |
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mason |
jane or david perhaps? |
| 05:43 |
|
mason |
me checks the time.... |
| 05:44 |
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mason |
any idea what time they clock-in? |
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mason |
hmm, not for another few hours.... :/ |
| 06:05 |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
| 06:05 |
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brendan |
heya mason |
| 06:13 |
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Amit_G |
heya mason |
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kmkale |
Good morning all |
| 06:18 |
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kmkale |
whats the best marc tag for type of book (fiction/non fiction/romance etc)? |
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alreadygone |
hi, what does this mean: make test had returned bad status, won't install without force |
| 06:53 |
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alreadygone |
i'm trying to install: perl -MCPAN -e 'install ZOOM' and got: |
| 06:53 |
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alreadygone |
# Failed test 'connection to non-existent host 'no.such.host' fails' |
| 06:53 |
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alreadygone |
# at t/1-Net-Z3950-ZOOM.t line 22. |
| 07:13 |
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kmkale |
is 500a general note the right place for summary of the book? |
| 07:18 |
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robin |
kmkale: there is a synopsis field, is that what you're after for a summary? |
| 07:39 |
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alreadygone |
now I am getting: production mode - trapped fatal error |
| 07:44 |
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alreadygone |
i am on Slackware 13 by the way... |
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kmkale |
robin: sorry I was called away from desk. Whats the synopsis field tag no? is it displayed in opac? |
| 08:19 |
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kmkale |
is it 520a? |
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Amit_G |
heya kmkale |
| 08:42 |
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kmkale |
hi amit |
| 08:45 |
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alreadygone |
kindly have a look: http://www.pastie.org/958343 |
| 08:49 |
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chris |
Can't locate HTML/Template/Pro.pm |
| 08:49 |
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chris |
is the relevant bit you are missing that module |
| 08:51 |
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alreadygone |
ok, let me try to install that |
| 08:52 |
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chris |
when you ran perl Makefile.PL |
| 08:53 |
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chris |
it should have listed all the missing modules |
| 08:55 |
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alreadygone |
Yes I saw a long list, I should have noted them then :| |
| 08:56 |
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alreadygone |
is there a way to get the list of missing things again? |
| 08:56 |
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chris |
you can run the perl Makefile.PL again |
| 08:57 |
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chris |
just dont do the make, make install bits |
| 08:57 |
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alreadygone |
aah, cool |
| 08:57 |
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alreadygone |
ok |
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chris |
hi Colin |
| 09:40 |
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chris_n |
g'morning |
| 09:43 |
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chris |
hi chris_n |
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Colin |
hi guys |
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alreadygone |
\o/ it worked ! thank you very much chris |
| 09:47 |
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chris |
no worries |
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alreadygone |
I am trying to save a MARC record, getting this error when trying to save: Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled : * tag 942 subfield c Item type in tab 9 |
| 10:36 |
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alreadygone |
there is a drop down list on that subfield, but the list has no options to choose from! |
| 10:37 |
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alreadygone |
chris? |
| 10:42 |
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chris |
you need to go to admin |
| 10:42 |
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chris |
and then add some itemtypes |
| 10:42 |
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chris |
http://koha-community.org/docu[…]?ch=x2875#AEN2963 |
| 10:43 |
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alreadygone |
thanks again chris |
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gmcharlt |
morning |
| 10:44 |
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alreadygone |
morning gmcharlt |
| 10:52 |
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chris |
alreadygone: are you setting up a library for yourself? |
| 10:52 |
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alreadygone |
yes, :) |
| 10:52 |
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alreadygone |
just trying Koha to start knowing it better |
| 10:53 |
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alreadygone |
got admission in college for Library science, 1st semester |
| 10:53 |
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alreadygone |
Koha may not be discussed till 2nd semester, but I want to know about it now |
| 10:54 |
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alreadygone |
chris, here is another error for you, when I tried to "save" the record: http://www.pastie.org/958452 |
| 10:55 |
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chris |
that looks like a legit error .. what version of koha? |
| 10:56 |
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alreadygone |
wait |
| 10:57 |
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alreadygone |
name of zip file I used: koha-3.00.02.tar.gz |
| 10:59 |
|
* chris_n |
heads off to the park for the day |
| 10:59 |
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chris_n |
bbl |
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alreadygone |
uhh ho |
| 11:02 |
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chris |
ahhh thats a pretty old version |
| 11:03 |
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chris |
latest 3.0. release is 3.0.5 |
| 11:04 |
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chris |
http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
| 11:06 |
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alreadygone |
ok, came back from the park? :) thanks, I guess I'll have to download the latest version |
| 11:09 |
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alreadygone |
crap, that's a different chris |
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chris |
yeah thats chris n, im chris c |
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chris |
:) |
| 11:11 |
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alreadygone |
:) |
| 11:16 |
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chris |
alreadygone: you are in pakistan? |
| 11:16 |
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alreadygone |
yup, ran Traceroute? |
| 11:16 |
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chris |
yup |
| 11:17 |
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chris |
from nz, to la, then through france to .pk |
| 11:17 |
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chris |
lots of hops |
| 11:17 |
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alreadygone |
thousands of miles away... |
| 11:18 |
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alreadygone |
how do you register nick on this network? Freenode's command does not work here. |
| 11:19 |
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chris |
you can't |
| 11:20 |
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alreadygone |
so I can't get a cloak either |
| 11:20 |
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chris |
nope |
| 11:21 |
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alreadygone |
you have a cloak. Where did you get that from? |
| 11:22 |
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alreadygone |
is it a cloak you have... or is it just not an IP, but a real address |
| 11:22 |
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chris |
the latter |
| 11:22 |
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chris |
it does a reverse dns lookup |
| 11:22 |
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alreadygone |
i see |
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alreadygone |
what is your profession chris ? |
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chris |
developer |
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alreadygone |
ok |
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chris |
hi jwagner |
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chris |
hi nengard |
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nengard |
hiya |
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nengard |
what a morning already |
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nengard |
had 2 pups with sick tummies |
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nengard |
and hairy pups with sick tummies leads to puppy baths |
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chris |
ahh yep |
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jwagner |
morning, all |
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alreadygone |
morning jwagner |
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gmcharlt |
nengard: and puppy baths lead to in-house weather? |
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nengard |
LOL yes they do |
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owen |
Hi #koha |
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jdavidb |
howdy |
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Nate |
morning owen, jdavidb |
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gmcharlt |
@bug 4444 |
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munin |
gmcharlt: Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4444 enhancement, P5, ---, chris.nighswonger gmail.com, ASSIGNED, Centralize Code Handling Perl Dependencies |
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alreadygone |
\o/ koha 3.00.05 works great. thanks chris :) |
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cait |
hi #koha |
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waves to cait |
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waves to jdavidb |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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@wunder 20817 |
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sekjal |
does anyone know what the intent is behind the "Hide My Tags" link in the patron account section of the OPAC? |
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sekjal |
is this to hide the "My Tags" section underneath the tag cloud, or to filter out your tags from the tag cloud (so you only see what others have tagged)? |
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owen |
I would think the latter |
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owen |
sekjal: Does neither happen in practice? |
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sekjal |
owen: the former certainly does not. the latter doesn't seem to, but perhaps that because none of my tags were part of the cloud. will retest |
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nengard |
let's take a step back and tell Nicole where this hide link is :) I don't have it documented - I don't remember ever seeing it before |
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sekjal |
nengard: in the OPAC, under Tag Cloud, if you're logged in, there is a link "Hide My Tags" next to the Show up to X option |
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owen |
sekjal: I can't figure out what it's doing just by trying it |
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owen |
It doesn't hide my approved tags and show me only other users' tags |
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nengard |
sekjal i think it would be so you could see what other people used as tags |
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owen |
And my rejected tags don't show up in the cloud anyway |
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nengard |
owen - same here |
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sekjal |
my test patron has an approved tag that only he has used. When I click the "Hide My Tags" link, that tag is NOT filtered from the cloud |
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sekjal |
this link seems to have no effect |
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nengard |
that is my guess as well |
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owen |
I notice the interface also does not change the "hide" language after it has been activated |
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sekjal |
I think this feature may be a stub at this point |
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nengard |
owen - but it does put a flag in the URL |
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sekjal |
but it seems logical to say that clicking it should filter out your tags from the tag cloud |
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nengard |
yes |
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sekjal |
what if some else also used a tag of yours? should that tag stay or go? |
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nengard |
i'd say stay |
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nengard |
cause it is someone else's tag |
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sekjal |
I'd say go, because you can search for all your tags in the "My Tags" list below |
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sekjal |
perhaps a compromise |
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nengard |
hehe |
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sekjal |
color tags of yours that others have used too in some different color |
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sekjal |
perhaps fade them |
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nengard |
we'd have to make it clear what was happening |
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nengard |
or remove the link altogether - what other site offers that functionality? |
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nengard |
I've never seen it before |
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nengard |
the point of tags is to have the wisdom of the crowd and i'm part of thata crowd |
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nengard |
that crowd |
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owen |
gmcharlt++ # for http://galencharlton.com/blog/?p=45 |
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sekjal |
I don't see it as a particularly desirable feature, but maybe someone would want the option |
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sekjal |
I haven't looked too deeply at the code to see what it would take to actually implement, though |
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sekjal |
maybe that's why it's a stub: too hard |
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wizzyrea |
hm |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt++ |
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cait |
gmcharlt++ |
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nengard |
gmcharlt++ |
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nengard |
now I need to get ready for my presentation and then head out - see you all tonight or tomorrow |
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owen |
sekjal: The "hidemytags" stuff has been in the template since 2008, but some changes to the script were made by paul_p in 2009 |
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sekjal |
not seeming any respect for the hidemytags param anywhere in opac/opac-tags.pl |
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sekjal |
hmmm |
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wizzyrea |
it don't get no respect. |
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wizzyrea |
sorry, I had to. |
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owen |
A girl phoned hidemytags the other day and said... Come on over, there's nobody home. hidemytags went over. Nobody was home. |
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wizzyrea |
owen: the opac keeps getting sexier and sexier. |
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wizzyrea |
I love it. |
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cait |
huh? |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
I cant follow your conversation |
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cait |
workig on javascript error message translation :) |
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* collum |
points cait to Rodney Dangerfield jokes. http://www.joecasaletto.com/jokes/rodney.htm |
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cait |
thx collum! |
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moodaepo |
gmcharlt++ |
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wizzyrea |
schuster++ |
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wizzyrea |
I wonder if we will ever do formal usability testing on koha |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: would be nice - although that something (unless we can talk a usability graduate class into doing it) that woudl definitely require paid professionals |
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wizzyrea |
*nod* |
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* wizzyrea |
notes that there is a major university in her town |
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* wizzyrea |
makes another note to see if they have usability classes |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
-Â var StrAlert = _("Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled :\n\n"); |
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cait |
+ Â Â var StrAlert = _("Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled :") + "\n\n"; |
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cait |
I want to get the line breaks out of the strings for translation, because pootle does strange things to the \ |
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cait |
but after this change the tabs in cataloging are broken |
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cait |
hm solved it |
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gmcharlt |
what was it? |
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cait |
Im not sure, but var StrAlert = _("Can't save this record because the following field aren't filled"); |
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cait |
StrAlert += "\n\n"; works |
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wizzyrea |
42? |
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cait |
its seems deklaration and concatenation of the variable dont work together? |
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CGI484 |
Hel |
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CGI484 |
Hello! |
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cait |
hello CGI484 |
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CGI484 |
I would be interested in evaluatiing the Cloud version of Koha |
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CGI484 |
May I know if it is available and how much would it cost for an average group of user of about 100 people? |
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cait |
not sure what the cloud version of koha is? are you talking about koha express or something like that? |
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CGI484 |
yes precisely |
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wizzyrea |
you would want to talk to them directly about that |
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CGI484 |
Ok thank you! |
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wizzyrea |
and they are only one of several vendors who would host you in a cloud environment |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/support/paid-support/ |
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CGI484 |
thank you |
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wizzyrea |
btw, that is the official koha website. |
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wizzyrea |
not koha.org. |
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wizzyrea |
I know it's confusing |
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* cait |
nods |
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CGI484 |
Do you know the difference between Koha and Liblime? |
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wizzyrea |
yes. Liblime is a support comapny that supports Koha Library Software |
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wizzyrea |
Koha is the software they are using |
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wizzyrea |
and http://koha-community.org is the website of the project |
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wizzyrea |
(and I should note, Liblime is a division of PTFS) |
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wizzyrea |
and they are one among *many* support companies |
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wizzyrea |
I cannot stress this enough. |
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wizzyrea |
are you in the US? |
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owen |
CGI484: The "cloud version" of Koha is simply Koha hosted by someone other than yourself. |
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owen |
There isn't anything magically cloud-like about it. |
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CGI484 |
Thanks :) . Is there a free version I can dowload and install? |
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wizzyrea |
absolutely |
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wizzyrea |
http://koha-community.org/download-koha/ |
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CGI484 |
Ok, so that is the one I found too. It seemed strange because it is 90MB.... |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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CGI484 |
Besides I had problems installing it on a Red Hat server |
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CGI484 |
Is there a lighter version of the software? |
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wizzyrea |
most people have trouble installing it the first time |
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CGI484 |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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CGI484 |
DO you know a page with FAQs or tips regarding the installation process? |
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owen |
CGI484: The 3.0.5 download is large because it includes various translations |
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owen |
The 3.2 Alpha2 is lighter because it doesn't include the same translations |
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CGI484 |
Thank you, I think I'll give it a try |
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wizzyrea |
but, it might be buggier. ;) |
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wizzyrea |
fair warning |
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CGI484 |
Ok. It seems to me the installation is not easy, and many dependencies are required. I'm going to try the installation again. Thank you very much for your tips! |
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cait |
hm I can save an empty currency form? |
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wizzyrea |
sure, stop by anytime if you get stuck |
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wizzyrea |
we are pro at helping with installs ;) |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ |
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wizzyrea |
CGI484: we should probably note that in the works is a debian package, so you can just apt-get install koha |
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wizzyrea |
and be done with it (more or less) |
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CGI484 |
thank you. Actually I'm already stuck during the "make" process, but it's my server's problem: "No space left on device at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/ExtUtils/Install.pm line 443", though I have sapce under /usr ... |
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CGI484 |
Do you know if I can change koha to another directory different from /usr? |
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wizzyrea |
does this help you at all? http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f9270fbd6;hb=HEAD |
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wizzyrea |
there are a lot of debian/ubuntu nerds here, not so many redhat folk |
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CGI484 |
Thank you! You're great :) I'll follow the guide and if problems persist I'll get back here for help. |
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CGI484 |
Yes, I prefer ubuntu too, but the company server is Red Hat, so.... |
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wizzyrea |
aha! |
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CGI484 |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
dare I ask what you are going to use koha for? a company library? |
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jdavidb |
wizzyrea++ #she's just awesome like that. |
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cait |
CGI484: you can choose dev install instead of standard, you can choose the path and its all in 2 directories |
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CGI484 |
yes, we'd like to have an internal library for some books and e-books we internally share |
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wizzyrea |
cool beans |
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CGI484 |
Thanks all guys. I'll try the dev install, 'cause the library seems really cool and professional ;) THANKS |
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wizzyrea |
sure thing |
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CGI484 |
;) |
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wizzyrea |
@karma |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Highest karma: "gmcharlt" (139), "chris" (129), and "owen" (103). Lowest karma: "<!" (-56), "failed" (-36), and "-" (-23). You (wizzyrea) are ranked 4 out of 821. |
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* gmcharlt |
issuing general call to anybody who wants to publish Koha wip trees to git.koha-community.org |
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wizzyrea |
@karma wizzyrea |
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gmcharlt |
send me your SSH public keys |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Karma for "wizzyrea" has been increased 93 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 93. |
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wizzyrea |
ooh, owen |
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wizzyrea |
I'm catching you |
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wizzyrea |
but I shall never seek to surpass you |
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wizzyrea |
because you are awesom |
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wizzyrea |
e |
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owen |
Well yeah, but I've been so mean to people lately |
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wizzyrea |
where mean = valid righteous indignation |
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cait |
@karma cait |
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munin |
cait: Karma for "cait" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
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cait |
still a lot to learn to get near wizzyrea and owen :) |
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wizzyrea |
@karma kf |
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munin |
wizzyrea: Karma for "kf" has been increased 13 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 13. |
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wizzyrea |
cait++ kf++ |
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wizzyrea |
cait++ for all the help with jquery |
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wizzyrea |
cait++ for generally being sweet |
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* cait |
blushes |
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wizzyrea |
hm. too hungry to think of more atm, but just you wait til I have had lunch |
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wizzyrea |
;) |
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cait |
I try to help, but cant explain as good as others and often dont know enough |
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cait |
wizzyrea++ for good explanations :) |
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cait |
hm can I trust this OK message from git send-email? |
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owen |
cait: I don't see anything from you on the patches list yet |
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cait |
me neither |
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cait |
:( |
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cait |
perhaps I messed with my git send-email configuration again |
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cait |
owen: I will wait a bit longer and resend later |
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cait |
owen: resent with thunderbird... |
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cait |
gmcharlt: thx :) working on the next patch - wanted to add them all to bug 4499 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=4499 normal, P5, ---, katrin.fischerbsz-bw.de, NEW, Javascript erorr messages not translatable |
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gmcharlt |
cait++ |
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chris |
yay |
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chris |
cait++ |
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cait |
yay :) |
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cait |
thanks :) |
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wizzyrea |
ok this is bizarre |
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wizzyrea |
from an imported record |
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wizzyrea |
Can't call method "field" on an undefined value at /home/nekls/kohaclone/C4/Koha.pm line 1104. |
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wizzyrea |
is that a problem with the record, or something else? |
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jdavidb |
When I see that, it's usually a trashy record, wizzyrea. |
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owen |
...like a Harlequin Romance maybe. |
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wizzyrea |
that's what I thought |
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wizzyrea |
oh snap owen |
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jdavidb |
:-O |
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wizzyrea |
these came from OCLC though |
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wizzyrea |
the reporter says "They were all working yesterday" |
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wizzyrea |
mmm hmm. |
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* gmcharlt |
has connexion access - what is the OCLC number? |
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* jdavidb |
found a *bag* of trashy romances--12 for $5--at the Friends of the MoCo Library bookstore this weekend. |
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wizzyrea |
035$a? |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: yep, if it has a number starting with ocm or ocn |
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wizzyrea |
ocn548616666 |
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gmcharlt |
wizzyrea: I was able to import that record w/o problem |
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wizzyrea |
yea, there must be something screwed up aobut it |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt++ # blog entry |
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wizzyrea |
I mean, our system |
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wizzyrea |
we do have an impending evening migration |
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wizzyrea |
which I don't know if that would affect it, but in my small mind it seems like it could. |
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cait |
chris: are the js files not parsed for translation? (koha_tmpl...en/js? |
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chris |
not sure, i thought they were |
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chris |
fredericd is the one to ask, he has done some recent work on the translation scrips |
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cait |
ah ok |
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cait |
fredericd: around? |
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cait |
my filed in de-DE are not translated, although the strings are marked with _(" ") |
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chris |
maybe email to him and koha-translate might be the easiest |
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cait |
yes, he is not here very often, was easier with you :) |
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wizzyrea |
well chris is awesome like that |
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cait |
he is :) |
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cait |
will write him from work tomorrow |
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chris |
cool |
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owen |
Hi chris, how's it going? |
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cait |
but js directory seems to be not included in translation |
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chris |
good thanks owen, hows things with you? |
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owen |
Busy busy. |
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owen |
Back to working on statistics for a while after a couple of days of Koha bug fixing |
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chris |
ahhh |
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sekjal |
working on hourly loans: I'm thinking of using the minute as the base unit. is there any good case for using seconds? |
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cait |
hourly loans - cool! |
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cait |
delete borrower from circulation.pl - german error message - same button on details page - english error message |
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gmcharlt |
sekjal: not unless a library has a compelling reason to charge overdue fines on the basis of a farthing every second |
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owen |
cait: two different *-toolbar.inc files |
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cait |
suer? |
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cait |
sure? |
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cait |
I found circ_toolbar_inc |
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owen |
I know that there are two patron-related toolbar include files |
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owen |
...although I can't remember why... |
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owen |
check members-toolbar.inc |
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owen |
In fact I can see right now that it's not properly formatted for translation |
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cait |
yes, thx for your help! |
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cait |
owen++ :) |
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* owen |
is off tomorrow, wishes everyone a good weekend |
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chris |
bus time |
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hi |
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hi richard |
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hey chris |
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good night #koha |
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larsw: nice response to Bob |
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heya jo |
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bbiab |
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back |
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http://www.linuxtoday.com/news[…]5-13-027-35-NW-SW |
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