IRC log for #koha, 2010-03-01

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00:51 brendan @wunder 93117
00:51 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.9�C (4:50 PM PST on February 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
00:51 chris hi brendan
00:51 brendan hey chris
00:51 brendan excellent day here :)
00:51 chris looks it
00:52 brendan finally finished the fence around our veggie garden plot
00:52 brendan that was the fence that attacked my arm and put me in the emergency room
00:53 chris glad you beat it in the end
00:54 brendan me too
00:54 brendan now we'll have to wait and grow some tasty veggies and see if the fence can withstand the onslaught of gophers
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07:25 Ropuch Morning #koha
07:27 chris hi Ropuch
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07:37 CGI979 hello, anyone can help me with my problem? i want retrieve my koha Database files from a hard disk which crash down. im not familiar with it, help anyone?
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07:48 jorge anyone can help, i want to retrieve the database files of khoa from my crashed HD
07:48 jorge anybody here?
07:49 jorge ?
07:53 chris did you have a mysqldump of the database?
07:54 jorge nope. since i took over this system its already down, the OS itself
07:55 chris so no regular backups were made at all? and the hd is crashed?
07:55 jorge difinitely
07:56 chris theres probably not much you can do then
07:56 chris cant restore from backup if you have no backup
07:57 jorge whoa! pretty bad
07:58 chris well if you have a dead hd, you have a dead hd, doesnt matter whats on it if its dead
08:00 jorge its jsut the OS but the HD is still working
08:01 chris ah in that case, you need to mount it on a working computer, set mysql up to use the dir that mysql is on the HD, then do a mysqldump
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08:23 chris hi magnus and paul_p
08:23 paul_p hi chris & al
08:23 magnus hi chris et al
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08:40 kf good morning :)
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08:42 chris hi kf
08:44 kf hi chris
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12:54 jwagner mumble mumble good morning mumble mumble....
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13:07 kf good morning jwagner
13:08 jwagner Morning, kf
13:15 magnus good jmorning jwagner and jdavidb et al
13:18 jwagner Morning, magnus.
13:19 jdavidb Hi, magnus! :)
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13:20 * jdavidb waves at owen
13:20 magnus good morning owen
13:20 owen Hi
13:21 jwagner magnus, that was a tremendous finish in the 50K cross-country -- congratulations to your countryman!
13:22 magnus um, not my cup of tea, but thanks anyway ;-)
13:24 gmcharlt good morning
13:24 jdavidb hi, gmcharlt. :)
13:24 jwagner Morning.
13:25 eric_b is now known as ebegin
13:25 ebegin good morning all!
13:26 * owen thinks, "Radical mormons eh? Yeah, that's on-topic..."
13:29 jwagner I was wondering if someone was submitting a patch to convert to radical mormons....
13:30 collum Into what? :)
13:31 jwagner beats me....
13:32 magnus RaDicAl -> RDA!
13:32 paul_p radical mormons = seems they started huge spamming... got 10 in my mailbox :(
13:45 gmcharlt paul_p: I think that spammer has earned themselves being unsubscribed and blocked
13:47 * jdavidb starts humming a Monty Python bit about Spam...
13:49 jwagner But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!
13:49 * jwagner knows that's conflating a couple of skits, but...
13:50 jdavidb @quote add <jwagner>But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!
13:50 munin jdavidb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #63 added.
13:50 gmcharlt the asymptote of all nerdish discussion on the intertubes are replays of Monty Python skits
13:50 * collum now has to hum "It's a small world after all" to get the spam song out of his head
13:50 * jdavidb figures he'll get vigorously harrrrumph-ed for that.
13:51 * jdavidb did, sure enough.
13:51 gmcharlt jwagner++
13:52 jwagner I think I'm one episode short of a _complete_ set of all the shows.  Probably an indication of a serious character flaw....
13:54 jdavidb @quote random
13:54 munin jdavidb: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 05:21 PM, August 22, 2009)
13:57 jdavidb @quote random
13:57 munin jdavidb: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by chris_n at 11:20 AM, December 22, 2009)
13:57 owen Anyone know anything new about Bug 2629?
13:57 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=2629 major, P1, ---,, NEW, Diacritics not being ignored when searching
13:58 jdavidb There are some changes to make to zebra that seem to make that go, owen; I've been testing that.
13:58 jdavidb Lemme see if I can find a reference...
13:59 jdavidb Oh, the bits from Brian Harrington work fine, with the exception of the "transliterate" rules, at least on my machine.
13:59 owen hdl_laptop commented that using icu.xml helped, but that it "cannot provide ppl with right truncation"
13:59 jdavidb Set up ICU, make changes to zebra config, and reindex.  Haven't looked into the right-truncation thing.
14:00 owen Am I correct in understanding that right-truncation is the ability to return results for "dogs" when searching for "dog" ?
14:01 gmcharlt owen: that could be either stemming or truncation
14:02 gmcharlt truncation: "truncati" retruns "truncation", "truncations", "truncationing", etc. # sorry, all of my English teachers!
14:02 hdl_laptop gmcharlt: no. It is searching *story and you find history
14:02 owen hdl_laptop: I don't understand. Searching *story and finding history is what?
14:03 jdavidb sure 'nuf, it doesn't.  The non-testing version of this catalog returns a bunch for title %story, but the icu-testing version gets zero hits.
14:03 * hdl_laptop confusing his left and right....
14:03 gmcharlt stemming: "life" returns "living", "lives" - i.e., attempts to identify component of words and generalize
14:04 jdavidb dog% returns fewer results on the ICU-based system, too.  hm.
14:04 hdl_laptop jdavidb: Yes I realized that. And asked ID for a hint about that.
14:05 hdl_laptop that problem looked to be assigned since 2008
14:05 gmcharlt right truncation: histor* => history; left truncation: *story => history
14:05 hdl_laptop but right truncation works.
14:06 jdavidb It *appears* to, returns non-zero hits, at least...but nearly a third fewer hits...maybe, maybe not.
14:06 owen So stemming is really more important than right truncation, if it works correctly
14:07 gmcharlt in principle, yes
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14:07 gmcharlt but harding to do well, of course
14:07 gmcharlt *harder
14:09 hdl_laptop Two philosophy can be used : index stemmed words and exact search on stemmed operands.
14:10 owen We just want a search for "Pokemon" to find Pokémon :)
14:11 hdl_laptop Or you can index the real words and search with truncation. But in the "living" case where you would like to search for Life also, vould be a little more tricky
14:11 hdl_laptop Owen : the charmap or icu should be your friend.
14:12 gmcharlt owen: hdl_laptop has it, but the fact that my IRC channel dropped the diacritics in your statement about Pokemon points to yet another aspect
14:12 gmcharlt I saw "Pokemon" and "Pokmon"
14:12 gmcharlt getting *that* to work is where fuzziness would come into play
14:14 owen I'm still confused. Can I afford to use icu and lose right truncation as long as stemming is working?
14:14 gmcharlt owen: losing right truncation is not worth it
14:15 owen Then icu is not my friend
14:15 gmcharlt but hopefully there is no reason why ICU indexing *necessarily* means having to give up right truncation
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14:25 owen gmcharlt: Can you elaborate?
14:26 gmcharlt Zebra can use ICU as a means of normalizing the strings that it indexes, but string normalization by itself shouldn't preclude the use of Zebra's ability to do right truncation
14:27 gmcharlt i.e., it *ought* to be possible to have an ICU-based Zebra config that doesn't prevent right truncation from working
14:36 cabillman Hi everyone. I work for penn manor school district and we are getting ready to go live with koha at one building on April 1st.
14:36 cabillman the rest will follow sometime over the summer
14:36 owen Welcome cabillman
14:36 cabillman we are having an internal discussion regarding which version to deploy
14:37 gmcharlt cabillman: hi - I see Solanco is setting a trend (I'm a Solanco alum) :)
14:37 cabillman some want to stick with 3.0x and others want to try 3.2 alpha/beta
14:37 cabillman gmcharlt: yes. we actually went one site earlier this year and took a look at their setup
14:39 cabillman does anyone have any advice regarding 3.2? Should we just wait until it gets released?
14:39 gmcharlt cabillman: having you been testing with 3.2 yet, or testing with 3.0.x?
14:40 cabillman gmcharlt: right now we are running
14:41 cabillman gmcharlt: I don't think their are any features in 3.2 that we absolutely need to go live
14:42 gmcharlt the beta should be stable enough for an April go-live, but certainly I can understand being prudent and sticking with a maintenance release (which would be 3.0.6 by then)
14:42 jwagner cabillman, I'd personally be very reluctant to go live with the current 3.2 version -- there are still too many bugs.  If you were going live in, say, August instead of April, that would be a different matter.
14:43 jwagner I think the current version will be much more stable in another month or so, but that's too close to your go-live date.
14:44 cabillman i'm not used to bugzilla, I was trying to take a look at the bugs and see what would impact us
14:44 gmcharlt I actually agree with jwagner, but my comment was inspired by the fact that if you're running, you already have experience using 3.2-alpha
14:45 cabillman ok, so it sounds like the general consensus is to stick with stable
14:45 jwagner It may really depend on what modules you plan to use.  If you're using pieces that had major changes in 3.2, I'd be very cautious.
14:46 gmcharlt acquisitions in particular
14:46 cabillman i was leaning that way, since I really don't want to give our demo site a bad feeling of koha
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14:47 cabillman has anything changed with the borrowers table? I have scripts to import our students daily from our student information system
14:47 jwagner Make sure you do your installation as a git install so that updating will be easier.  And set up a test server so you can play with the 3.2 version as it progresses.
14:48 cabillman jwagner: are there any directions for a git install posted online? I have seen mention of it before but I can't recall where
14:49 owen[…]lopment:git_usage
14:49 cabillman thanks owen
14:49 owen ...for setting up git
14:49 jwagner[…]public_repository
14:49 owen And then the INSTALL file for your platform
14:49 gmcharlt cabillman: five columns were added to borrowers, but except for borrowers.privacy, nothing that would require more than a trival change to your update script
14:49 jwagner for cloning latest head, I think -- you might have to point yours someplace else for the stable version
14:50 gmcharlt jwagner: some repository, different branch
14:50 * jwagner is not a git expert :-)
14:50 cabillman i think i have seen the stable tags/branches in gitweb
14:50 gmcharlt git checkout -b mywork origin/3.0.x to get on the stable branch
14:51 gmcharlt git checkout -b mywork v3.00.05 for the current stable release tag
14:51 gmcharlt soon to become v3.00.06
14:53 kf just started to read back, our installation uses icu, it works fine so far, but not sure about truncation and auto-truncation settings, some search parameters make problems with icu
14:54 cabillman thanks for all your help/advice
14:55 jwagner cabillman, good luck & let us know how things go.
14:55 cabillman will do
14:56 cabillman oh one other quick question regarding patches
14:56 jwagner hdl_laptop, online?
14:56 cabillman if we have a patch for something what is the best way to contribute it back
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14:57 hdl_laptop jwagner: yes.
14:57 gmcharlt cabillman: email it to - also, it helps if you attach the patch to a bug at
14:58 cabillman gmcharlt: ah, I had fixed up a patch for bug 3770 but hadn't heard anything back
14:58 munin Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3770 normal, P5, ---,, REOPENED, 'Add to list' page only offers the choice of adding to private lists
14:59 gmcharlt cabillman: ah, cool - also sending it to does make it more visible, though
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15:00 cabillman gmcharlt: makes sense. I will keep that in mind for next time
15:00 gmcharlt it's on my radar now, though
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15:10 hilongo Hello everybody ...  :)
15:11 jwagner gmcharlt, is there a writeup on the wiki for the whole process of submitting a patch?  I don't find it with a quick search.  I'm thinking a description of (1) search bugzilla, (2) create bugzilla entry if not found, (3) develop patch, (4) submit to patches list.
15:11 jwagner Something like that.
15:18 gmcharlt jwagner: not in one place
15:19 jwagner Might be useful, along with the coding guidelines that was being discussed....
15:32 kf xslt--
15:32 kf sorry, just a bit frustrated
15:34 jwagner I think xslt was DESIGNED to frustrate people!
15:34 wizzyrea kf join the club
15:35 jdavidb @karma xslt
15:35 munin jdavidb: Karma for "xslt" has been increased 2 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 1.
15:36 kf hebrew is no longer on the right side of the screen :(
15:37 jwagner Was it there before with XSLT?
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15:39 kf yes
15:39 jwagner Is it a change with 3.2 then?
15:40 kf jwagner: its monday, I get easily frustrated today
15:40 * jwagner thinks Mondays should be outlawed.
15:40 kf jwagner: its a change between 3.01.61 and current head
15:43 kf jwagner: im sure I ll figure it out, its just another thing to add to a long list - monday
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15:47 kyle hello all.
15:48 jwagner Hi, kyle
15:49 jdavidb Hi, kyle!
15:50 wizzyrea hi kyle
15:52 wizzyrea we are clearly experimenting with many levels of punctuation
15:53 jwagner so long as we do it punctually....
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15:54 * jdavidb groans
15:54 jdavidb Howdy, brendan.
15:55 brendan morning jdavidb
15:56 wizzyrea mornin brendan
15:56 brendan yo wizzyrea
15:56 * brendan realizes that planning migration meetings for first thing on monday's probably wasn't the best call
15:56 jdavidb lol
15:57 gmcharlt brendan: is at least one of the parties to the meeting awake? ;)
15:57 jwagner Depends on whether you're trying to get intelligent participation, or just saying "we're going to do it MY way"
15:57 brendan it's one of those - I'm on the wrong time zone
15:58 brendan I'll be back - but could someone please quote jwagner - that's a good one
15:59 brendan @quote add <jwagner> Depends on whether you're trying to get intelligent participation, or just saying "we're going to do it MY way"
15:59 munin brendan: The operation succeeded.  Quote #64 added.
15:59 brendan cool I got to it
15:59 jwagner Twice in one morning!  I must be exceptionally quotable today....
16:01 kf jwagner: in intranet 880 display is completly broken - xslt error message
16:02 kf harrumph.
16:03 * jdavidb gives kf a startled look.  Never her heard her harrumph here before.
16:03 jdavidb s/her//
16:03 kf I felt like it :)
16:04 wizzyrea it's understandable
16:04 jwagner We're catching!
16:04 jwagner The 880 is the alternative graphics display, right?
16:05 kf right
16:05 jdavidb jwagner, should we use the GPL, or Creative Commons for the license on the harrumph?
16:05 kf lol
16:05 kf I hope I have not to pay now
16:05 kf for using the word :)
16:06 jdavidb (or we could borrow something from Microsloth's EULA, and charge her per usage.)
16:06 kf normally I use something like hmpf. but it seemed not strong enough right now
16:06 jwagner I think I'll slap my own copyright on it :-)
16:07 * jdavidb fears jwagner
16:07 kf jwagner: yes, our library has a lot of hebrew
16:07 jdavidb I think she'll prolly let you use it for free, kf, but she'll charge me extra.
16:07 jwagner Is this OPAC?  And results list or details page?
16:07 * jwagner thinks jdavidb is correct.
16:08 kf mom I ll show you
16:08 * jdavidb goes "eep!" and hides.
16:08 kf[…]brenner&offset=47
16:09 kf this is 3.01.32 - cant show you in 3.2, but all text is left
16:09 * gmcharlt sees the Hebrew text hugging the right
16:09 jwagner kf, I'd say it was Greek to me, but that wouldn't be accurate.  This screen shot is what it should look like?
16:09 kf jdavidb: im sorry
16:09 kf thats our current 3.1.61 - all is well there
16:09 kf its our test installation from head where everything is against me
16:09 collum hebrew is correct.
16:10 * collum can read hebrew.
16:10 jwagner I know there were some changes with XSLT in 3.2, extended to staff mode.  Did the file itself change?
16:10 jwagner hdl_laptop or anyone?
16:11 kf hm, not sure the problem is there, I took a look at the xslt-file history, but did not find the problem yet
16:11 * jwagner is impressed with collum
16:11 kf intranet is another problem
16:11 kf runtime error: file /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmp​l/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl line 63 element call-template The called template 'm880Select' was not found.
16:11 kf so something is missing there
16:11 gmcharlt well, that makes it much more clear
16:12 hdl_laptop jwagner: I made changes to allow use of sysprefs for xsl file choice.
16:12 kf I saw nothing there that should break it
16:12 kf I will file bugs
16:12 gmcharlt kf: the problem is that there was a change to the OPAC version of MARC21slimUtils.xsl that wasn't propagated to the staff
16:13 gmcharlt fix should be easy
16:13 gmcharlt hang on a sec
16:13 kf just got a little frustrated - I had hoped I could get links between titles working for library congress, but I did not even get there today
16:13 kf gmcharlt: yes, I think thats the problem in intranet. I think it got lost when the staff file was done
16:14 jwagner kf, but apart from the intranet version, the OPAC is not displaying properly as well?
16:17 kf jwagner: no, rtl scripts should float to the right
16:18 kf thx all for listening, I will test more and write bug reports and try to fix things after that
16:19 jwagner Sympathy is easy, bug fixes are harder :-(
16:20 kf sympathy is nice enough right now :)
16:20 * jwagner sends kf a boatload of sympathy :-)
16:21 kf thank you :)
16:23 kf gmcharlt: oh
16:24 kf gmcharlt: I was not aware of that patch
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16:27 gmcharlt kf: I just pushed a patch that should fix the runtime error
16:27 kf gmcharlt++
16:27 kf I think this will fix the alignment problem too
16:28 kf or it could fix it
16:32 kf gmcharlt: thank you! I will test and report back
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16:32 gmcharlt thanks
16:33 jwagner jdavidb++ # for fixing a problem :-)
16:33 jdavidb :D  thnx
16:38 kf thx again all!
16:41 wizzyrea_ kyle re: libki do you have to restart mysql after commenting out the bind-address?
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16:41 * wizzyrea_ waves at kyle
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17:21 brendan @wunder 93117
17:21 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.7�C (9:17 AM PST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising).
17:21 brendan munin I was hoping for a little bit warmer of a temp...  could you please adjust that
17:21 munin brendan: Error: "I" is not a valid command.
17:23 kyle wizzyrea_: Yes, you'll need to restart mysql.
17:23 jwagner munin says there is no "I" in team :-)
17:23 munin jwagner: Error: "says" is not a valid command.
17:24 wizzyrea_ kyle ty
17:24 * jwagner gives munin a harrumph
17:25 kyle wizzyrea_: no prob :)
17:25 wizzyrea_ re:, anybody can make an account?
17:27 kyle wizzyrea_: it looks like you ware able to create an account.
17:29 wizzyrea_ it said there was an error sending the password email :(
17:29 wizzyrea_ er, more of a :/, i'm not *really* frowning
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17:33 kyle I'm checking my server's ability to send email right now. In the meantime, I can give your account a new password so you can log in and change it.
17:36 hdl_laptop hi kyle
17:36 hdl_laptop how are you ?
17:37 kyle hdl_laptop: good, and yourself?
17:38 hdl_laptop good.
17:38 hdl_laptop Nice to see you there.
17:40 hdl_laptop :w
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17:42 hdl_laptop kyle: have you ever tried out our FF plugin for Offline circulation ?
17:44 hdl_laptop It doesnot embed the whole database of users, but it does the job quite good
17:44 kyle No, I saw the screenshots, but I never installed it myself. It looked very nice. I like the 'pending offline operations' system.
17:49 kyle it would be nice implement that for the koc file uploader as well.
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18:39 jwagner @quote random
18:39 munin jwagner: Quote #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:38 AM, February 11, 2010)
18:39 * jdavidb falls out of his chair laughing.
18:40 * jwagner charges jdavidb a usage fee
18:40 jdavidb :P
18:40 * gmcharlt collects a per-transaction tax on all sublicenses of the word "harrrrumph", retires rich
18:42 * jwagner sues gmcharlt for copyright violations
18:44 * jdavidb files an amicus brief about something only tangentially related, in order to muddy the waters up some.
18:44 * jwagner emulates FDR and packs the Supreme Court to get a favorable ruling
18:45 * gmcharlt mixes up his IP law atrociously and looks for prior use
18:45 paul_p paul_p: thanks his US friends for making him laugh after a long & tiring day ...
18:45 jwagner Always glad to oblige :-)
18:46 paul_p (spent 3 hours printing our answer to an RFP, filling by hand with amounts, ... and all those BORING things...)
18:46 paul_p ( for a 15k€ RFP :'(((( )
18:46 gmcharlt @karma RFPs
18:46 munin gmcharlt: RFPs has neutral karma.
18:46 paul_p RFP--
18:46 paul_p @karma RFP
18:46 munin paul_p: Karma for "RFP" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
18:46 paul_p ok, sounds better ;-)
18:47 * cait waves back to jdavidb
18:48 jdavidb :D
18:49 paul_p ok, time to go back home for dinner.
18:49 paul_p see you tomorrow #koha world !
18:49 jwagner Bon soir, paul_p
18:49 gmcharlt paul_p: g'night
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18:50 jdavidb @quote random
18:50 munin jdavidb: Quote #53: "joetho: what kind of shape are the records in?" (added by gmcharlt at 05:17 PM, February 05, 2010)
18:50 jdavidb @quote random
18:50 munin jdavidb: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 03:12 PM, September 25, 2009)
18:54 brendan @wunder 93117
18:54 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (10:53 AM PST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Rising).
18:59 liz-nekls ol those are funny quotes I haven't seen before
18:59 liz-nekls is now known as wizzyrea_laptop
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19:03 jdavidb @wunder 20817
19:03 munin jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 8.6�C (2:02 PM EST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Rising).
19:03 brendan keep trying jdavidb
19:04 * jdavidb pouts a little.
19:25 cait @wunder Konstanz
19:25 munin cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0�C (8:00 PM CET on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
19:29 * jdavidb sends cait just a little bit of our warmth, so we can be equal.  Now, if only brendan would share...
19:30 cait :D
19:30 brendan I'm sharing as much as I can
19:30 * brendan blames munin
19:30 cait is already late here, i think it will be warmer tomorrow when the sun is out
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19:45 chris morning
19:45 brendan morning chris
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19:54 jdavidb Hi, chris!
19:56 chris heya jdavidb hows life with fast internet again?
19:57 jdavidb lovin' it!
20:02 owen Hi chris
20:03 chris heya owen, hows the family?
20:06 owen Pretty good.
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20:08 owen chris what was the outcome of the tsunami warnings? Anything hit NZ?
20:08 chris nothing damaging, lucky it was low tide
20:08 chris but we did get some pretty big surges
20:09 chris got some surges up to a metre
20:10 chris the thing with tsunami that people dont get is, its not a wave .. its just like a huge surge of water that just doesnt stop coming
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20:10 brendan heh - break out the surf boards
20:10 brendan (kidding of course)
20:10 chris heh, you cant actually surf it, it doesnt usually crest
20:11 chris tidal waves on the other hand, you can surf those
20:11 * owen saw this the other day
20:12 chris yeah we did a good job blocking for australia :)
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20:13 CGI829 lol
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20:14 richard mmm
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20:32 indradg hi anyone around?
20:32 chris hi indradg
20:33 indradg chris, got a quick query... i'm always used MySQL for Koha... what is the status of PgSQL support?
20:33 chris for 3.2 it doesnt work
20:34 chris for 3.4 both mysql and postgres should
20:34 chris thats the plan anyway
20:34 chris we'll see ;)
20:34 indradg chris, so I knew... was at a meeting yesterday, where someone strongly insisted that it did work, when i told that it was for 3.4 as "planned"
20:35 indradg chris, thanks :)
20:35 chris yeah, it *might* work now, but there schema is very out of date, and it hasnt been tested at all
20:35 gmcharlt it won't work at all - too out of date
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20:36 chris indradg: any chance you might be able to make it for kohacon?
20:38 indradg chris, really wanted to come down. but looks highly unlikely... until my wife's visa and work permit gets sorted out... indian govt bureaucracy is a nightmare
20:38 chris ahh :(
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20:41 indradg chris, its being planned for December 2010... right?
20:41 chris october 2010
20:41 chris end of october, start of november
20:41 indradg ok
20:41 chris
20:42 indradg copy that
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21:02 moodaepo @wunder 56001
21:02 munin moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 1.2�C (3:01 PM CST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Steady).
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21:03 brendan hi moodaepo
21:04 moodaepo brendan: hiyo
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22:09 brendan @wunder 93117
22:09 munin brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.9�C (2:04 PM PST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling).
22:13 chris @wunder wellington, nz
22:13 munin chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on March 02, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
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22:20 chris_n @wunder 28334
22:20 munin chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 11.0�C (5:02 PM EST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
22:24 chris starting to warm up eh
22:47 chris_n yup, a regular heatwave
22:53 chris_n any suggestions for a hex editor on *nix?
22:54 chris hmm nope
22:56 chris_n vim does it again... :%!xxd
22:56 chris_n vim++
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