Time  Nick         Message
22:56 chris_n      vim++
22:56 chris_n      vim does it again... :%!xxd
22:54 chris        hmm nope
22:53 chris_n      any suggestions for a hex editor on *nix?
22:47 chris_n      yup, a regular heatwave
22:24 chris        starting to warm up eh
22:20 munin        chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 11.0�C (5:02 PM EST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
22:20 chris_n      @wunder 28334
22:13 munin        chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 20.0�C (11:00 AM NZDT on March 02, 2010). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 29.77 in 1008 hPa (Steady).
22:13 chris        @wunder wellington, nz
22:09 munin        brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.9�C (2:04 PM PST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 69%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.07 in 1018.2 hPa (Falling).
22:09 brendan      @wunder 93117
21:04 moodaepo     brendan: hiyo
21:03 brendan      hi moodaepo
21:02 munin        moodaepo: The current temperature in South on Monks, Mankato, Minnesota is 1.2�C (3:01 PM CST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 56%. Dew Point: -6.0�C. Windchill: -2.0�C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026.0 hPa (Steady).
21:02 moodaepo     @wunder 56001
20:42 indradg      copy that
20:41 chris        http://kohacon.appspot.com/
20:41 indradg      ok
20:41 chris        end of october, start of november
20:41 chris        october 2010
20:41 indradg      chris, its being planned for December 2010... right?
20:38 chris        ahh :(
20:38 indradg      chris, really wanted to come down. but looks highly unlikely... until my wife's visa and work permit gets sorted out... indian govt bureaucracy is a nightmare
20:36 chris        indradg: any chance you might be able to make it for kohacon?
20:35 gmcharlt     it won't work at all - too out of date
20:35 chris        yeah, it *might* work now, but there schema is very out of date, and it hasnt been tested at all
20:35 indradg      chris, thanks :)
20:34 indradg      chris, so I knew... was at a meeting yesterday, where someone strongly insisted that it did work, when i told that it was for 3.4 as "planned"
20:34 chris        we'll see ;)
20:34 chris        thats the plan anyway
20:34 chris        for 3.4 both mysql and postgres should
20:33 chris        for 3.2 it doesnt work
20:33 indradg      chris, got a quick query... i'm always used MySQL for Koha... what is the status of PgSQL support?
20:32 chris        hi indradg
20:32 indradg      hi anyone around?
20:14 richard      mmm
20:13 CGI829       lol
20:12 chris        yeah we did a good job blocking for australia :)
20:11 * owen       saw this the other day http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/chile/chileem.jpg
20:11 chris        tidal waves on the other hand, you can surf those
20:10 chris        heh, you cant actually surf it, it doesnt usually crest
20:10 brendan      (kidding of course)
20:10 brendan      heh - break out the surf boards
20:10 chris        the thing with tsunami that people dont get is, its not a wave .. its just like a huge surge of water that just doesnt stop coming
20:09 chris        got some surges up to a metre
20:08 chris        but we did get some pretty big surges
20:08 chris        nothing damaging, lucky it was low tide
20:08 owen         chris what was the outcome of the tsunami warnings? Anything hit NZ?
20:06 owen         Pretty good.
20:03 chris        heya owen, hows the family?
20:02 owen         Hi chris
19:57 jdavidb      lovin' it!
19:56 chris        heya jdavidb hows life with fast internet again?
19:54 jdavidb      Hi, chris!
19:45 brendan      morning chris
19:45 chris        morning
19:30 cait         is already late here, i think it will be warmer tomorrow when the sun is out
19:30 * brendan    blames munin
19:30 brendan      I'm sharing as much as I can
19:30 cait         :D
19:29 * jdavidb    sends cait just a little bit of our warmth, so we can be equal.  Now, if only brendan would share...
19:25 munin        cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 7.0�C (8:00 PM CET on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 30%. Dew Point: -5.0�C. Pressure: 29.94 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
19:25 cait         @wunder Konstanz
19:04 * jdavidb    pouts a little.
19:03 brendan      keep trying jdavidb
19:03 munin        jdavidb: The current temperature in Langley Fork Park, McLean, Virginia is 8.6�C (2:02 PM EST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 49%. Dew Point: -2.0�C. Windchill: 9.0�C. Pressure: 29.90 in 1012.4 hPa (Rising).
19:03 jdavidb      @wunder 20817
18:59 liz-nekls    ol those are funny quotes I haven't seen before
18:54 munin        brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 16.8�C (10:53 AM PST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.10 in 1019.2 hPa (Rising).
18:54 brendan      @wunder 93117
18:50 munin        jdavidb: Quote #36: "<pianohacker> first, burn the perl book" (added by jdavidb at 03:12 PM, September 25, 2009)
18:50 jdavidb      @quote random
18:50 munin        jdavidb: Quote #53: "joetho: what kind of shape are the records in?" (added by gmcharlt at 05:17 PM, February 05, 2010)
18:50 jdavidb      @quote random
18:49 gmcharlt     paul_p: g'night
18:49 jwagner      Bon soir, paul_p
18:49 paul_p       see you tomorrow #koha world !
18:49 paul_p       ok, time to go back home for dinner.
18:48 jdavidb      :D
18:47 * cait       waves back to jdavidb
18:46 paul_p       ok, sounds better ;-)
18:46 munin        paul_p: Karma for "RFP" has been increased 0 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of -1.
18:46 paul_p       @karma RFP
18:46 paul_p       RFP--
18:46 munin        gmcharlt: RFPs has neutral karma.
18:46 gmcharlt     @karma RFPs
18:46 paul_p       ( for a 15k€ RFP :'(((( )
18:46 paul_p       (spent 3 hours printing our answer to an RFP, filling by hand with amounts, ... and all those BORING things...)
18:45 jwagner      Always glad to oblige :-)
18:45 paul_p       paul_p: thanks his US friends for making him laugh after a long & tiring day ...
18:45 * gmcharlt   mixes up his IP law atrociously and looks for prior use
18:44 * jwagner    emulates FDR and packs the Supreme Court to get a favorable ruling
18:44 * jdavidb    files an amicus brief about something only tangentially related, in order to muddy the waters up some.
18:42 * jwagner    sues gmcharlt for copyright violations
18:40 * gmcharlt   collects a per-transaction tax on all sublicenses of the word "harrrrumph", retires rich
18:40 jdavidb      :P
18:40 * jwagner    charges jdavidb a usage fee
18:39 * jdavidb    falls out of his chair laughing.
18:39 munin        jwagner: Quote #55: "<jdavidb> Harrrrumph!" (added by gmcharlt at 07:38 AM, February 11, 2010)
18:39 jwagner      @quote random
18:09 * jdavidb    waves to cait
17:49 kyle         it would be nice implement that for the koc file uploader as well.
17:44 kyle         No, I saw the screenshots, but I never installed it myself. It looked very nice. I like the 'pending offline operations' system.
17:44 hdl_laptop   It doesnot embed the whole database of users, but it does the job quite good
17:42 hdl_laptop   kyle: have you ever tried out our FF plugin for Offline circulation ?
17:40 hdl_laptop   :w
17:38 hdl_laptop   Nice to see you there.
17:38 hdl_laptop   good.
17:37 kyle         hdl_laptop: good, and yourself?
17:36 hdl_laptop   how are you ?
17:36 hdl_laptop   hi kyle
17:33 kyle         I'm checking my server's ability to send email right now. In the meantime, I can give your account a new password so you can log in and change it.
17:29 wizzyrea_    er, more of a :/, i'm not *really* frowning
17:29 wizzyrea_    it said there was an error sending the password email :(
17:27 kyle         wizzyrea_: it looks like you ware able to create an account.
17:25 wizzyrea_    re: wiki.libki.org, anybody can make an account?
17:25 kyle         wizzyrea_: no prob :)
17:24 * jwagner    gives munin a harrumph
17:24 wizzyrea_    kyle ty
17:23 munin        jwagner: Error: "says" is not a valid command.
17:23 jwagner      munin says there is no "I" in team :-)
17:23 kyle         wizzyrea_: Yes, you'll need to restart mysql.
17:21 munin        brendan: Error: "I" is not a valid command.
17:21 brendan      munin I was hoping for a little bit warmer of a temp...  could you please adjust that
17:21 munin        brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 14.7�C (9:17 AM PST on March 01, 2010). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1018.8 hPa (Rising).
17:21 brendan      @wunder 93117
16:41 * wizzyrea_  waves at kyle
16:41 wizzyrea_    <- liz from NEKLS
16:41 wizzyrea_    kyle re: libki do you have to restart mysql after commenting out the bind-address?
16:38 kf           thx again all!
16:33 jdavidb      :D  thnx
16:33 jwagner      jdavidb++ # for fixing a problem :-)
16:32 gmcharlt     thanks
16:32 kf           gmcharlt: thank you! I will test and report back
16:28 kf           or it could fix it
16:27 kf           I think this will fix the alignment problem too
16:27 kf           gmcharlt++
16:27 gmcharlt     kf: I just pushed a patch that should fix the runtime error
16:24 kf           gmcharlt: I was not aware of that patch
16:23 kf           gmcharlt: oh
16:21 kf           thank you :)
16:20 * jwagner    sends kf a boatload of sympathy :-)
16:20 kf           sympathy is nice enough right now :)
16:19 jwagner      Sympathy is easy, bug fixes are harder :-(
16:18 kf           thx all for listening, I will test more and write bug reports and try to fix things after that
16:17 kf           jwagner: no, rtl scripts should float to the right
16:14 jwagner      kf, but apart from the intranet version, the OPAC is not displaying properly as well?
16:13 kf           gmcharlt: yes, I think thats the problem in intranet. I think it got lost when the staff file was done
16:13 kf           just got a little frustrated - I had hoped I could get links between titles working for library congress, but I did not even get there today
16:13 gmcharlt     hang on a sec
16:13 gmcharlt     fix should be easy
16:12 gmcharlt     kf: the problem is that there was a change to the OPAC version of MARC21slimUtils.xsl that wasn't propagated to the staff
16:12 kf           I will file bugs
16:12 kf           I saw nothing there that should break it
16:12 hdl_laptop   jwagner: I made changes to allow use of sysprefs for xsl file choice.
16:11 gmcharlt     well, that makes it much more clear
16:11 kf           so something is missing there
16:11 kf           runtime error: file /usr/share/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/xslt/MARC21slim2intranetDetail.xsl line 63 element call-template The called template 'm880Select' was not found.
16:11 kf           intranet is another problem
16:11 * jwagner    is impressed with collum
16:11 kf           hm, not sure the problem is there, I took a look at the xslt-file history, but did not find the problem yet
16:10 jwagner      hdl_laptop or anyone?
16:10 jwagner      I know there were some changes with XSLT in 3.2, extended to staff mode.  Did the XSLT.pm file itself change?
16:10 * collum     can read hebrew.
16:09 collum       hebrew is correct.
16:09 kf           its our test installation from head where everything is against me
16:09 kf           thats our current 3.1.61 - all is well there
16:09 kf           jdavidb: im sorry
16:09 jwagner      kf, I'd say it was Greek to me, but that wouldn't be accurate.  This screen shot is what it should look like?
16:09 * gmcharlt   sees the Hebrew text hugging the right
16:09 kf           this is 3.01.32 - cant show you in 3.2, but all text is left
16:08 kf           https://hfjs.bsz-bw.de/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=brenner&offset=47
16:08 * jdavidb    goes "eep!" and hides.
16:08 kf           mom I ll show you
16:07 * jwagner    thinks jdavidb is correct.
16:07 jwagner      Is this OPAC?  And results list or details page?
16:07 jdavidb      I think she'll prolly let you use it for free, kf, but she'll charge me extra.
16:07 kf           jwagner: yes, our library has a lot of hebrew
16:07 * jdavidb    fears jwagner
16:06 jwagner      I think I'll slap my own copyright on it :-)
16:06 kf           normally I use something like hmpf. but it seemed not strong enough right now
16:06 jdavidb      (or we could borrow something from Microsloth's EULA, and charge her per usage.)
16:05 kf           for using the word :)
16:05 kf           I hope I have not to pay now
16:05 kf           lol
16:05 jdavidb      jwagner, should we use the GPL, or Creative Commons for the license on the harrumph?
16:05 kf           right
16:04 jwagner      The 880 is the alternative graphics display, right?
16:04 jwagner      We're catching!
16:04 wizzyrea     it's understandable
16:03 kf           I felt like it :)
16:03 jdavidb      s/her//
16:03 * jdavidb    gives kf a startled look.  Never her heard her harrumph here before.
16:02 kf           harrumph.
16:01 kf           jwagner: in intranet 880 display is completly broken - xslt error message
15:59 jwagner      Twice in one morning!  I must be exceptionally quotable today....
15:59 brendan      cool I got to it
15:59 munin        brendan: The operation succeeded.  Quote #64 added.
15:59 brendan      @quote add <jwagner> Depends on whether you're trying to get intelligent participation, or just saying "we're going to do it MY way"
15:58 brendan      I'll be back - but could someone please quote jwagner - that's a good one
15:57 brendan      it's one of those - I'm on the wrong time zone
15:57 jwagner      Depends on whether you're trying to get intelligent participation, or just saying "we're going to do it MY way"
15:57 gmcharlt     brendan: is at least one of the parties to the meeting awake? ;)
15:56 jdavidb      lol
15:56 * brendan    realizes that planning migration meetings for first thing on monday's probably wasn't the best call
15:56 brendan      yo wizzyrea
15:56 wizzyrea     mornin brendan
15:55 brendan      morning jdavidb
15:54 jdavidb      Howdy, brendan.
15:54 * jdavidb    groans
15:53 jwagner      so long as we do it punctually....
15:52 wizzyrea     we are clearly experimenting with many levels of punctuation
15:50 wizzyrea     hi kyle
15:49 jdavidb      Hi, kyle!
15:48 jwagner      Hi, kyle
15:47 kyle         hello all.
15:43 kf           jwagner: im sure I ll figure it out, its just another thing to add to a long list - monday
15:40 kf           jwagner: its a change between 3.01.61 and current head
15:40 * jwagner    thinks Mondays should be outlawed.
15:40 kf           jwagner: its monday, I get easily frustrated today
15:39 jwagner      Is it a change with 3.2 then?
15:39 kf           yes
15:37 jwagner      Was it there before with XSLT?
15:36 kf           hebrew is no longer on the right side of the screen :(
15:35 munin        jdavidb: Karma for "xslt" has been increased 2 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 1.
15:35 jdavidb      @karma xslt
15:34 wizzyrea     kf join the club
15:34 jwagner      I think xslt was DESIGNED to frustrate people!
15:32 kf           sorry, just a bit frustrated
15:32 kf           xslt--
15:19 jwagner      Might be useful, along with the coding guidelines that was being discussed....
15:18 gmcharlt     jwagner: not in one place
15:11 jwagner      Something like that.
15:11 jwagner      gmcharlt, is there a writeup on the wiki for the whole process of submitting a patch?  I don't find it with a quick search.  I'm thinking a description of (1) search bugzilla, (2) create bugzilla entry if not found, (3) develop patch, (4) submit to patches list.
15:10 hilongo      Hello everybody ...  :)
15:00 gmcharlt     it's on my radar now, though
15:00 cabillman    gmcharlt: makes sense. I will keep that in mind for next time
14:59 gmcharlt     cabillman: ah, cool - also sending it to patches@koha.org does make it more visible, though
14:58 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3770 normal, P5, ---, Sebastien.Hinderer@snv.jussieu.fr, REOPENED, 'Add to list' page only offers the choice of adding to private lists
14:58 cabillman    gmcharlt: ah, I had fixed up a patch for bug 3770 but hadn't heard anything back
14:57 gmcharlt     cabillman: email it to patches@koha.org - also, it helps if you attach the patch to a bug at bugs.koha.org
14:57 hdl_laptop   jwagner: yes.
14:56 cabillman    if we have a patch for something what is the best way to contribute it back
14:56 jwagner      hdl_laptop, online?
14:56 cabillman    oh one other quick question regarding patches
14:55 cabillman    will do
14:55 jwagner      cabillman, good luck & let us know how things go.
14:54 cabillman    thanks for all your help/advice
14:53 kf           just started to read back, our installation uses icu, it works fine so far, but not sure about truncation and auto-truncation settings, some search parameters make problems with icu
14:51 gmcharlt     soon to become v3.00.06
14:51 gmcharlt     git checkout -b mywork v3.00.05 for the current stable release tag
14:50 gmcharlt     git checkout -b mywork origin/3.0.x to get on the stable branch
14:50 cabillman    i think i have seen the stable tags/branches in gitweb
14:50 * jwagner    is not a git expert :-)
14:50 gmcharlt     jwagner: some repository, different branch
14:49 jwagner      for cloning latest head, I think -- you might have to point yours someplace else for the stable version
14:49 gmcharlt     cabillman: five columns were added to borrowers, but except for borrowers.privacy, nothing that would require more than a trival change to your update script
14:49 owen         And then the INSTALL file for your platform
14:49 jwagner      http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage#clone_the_public_repository
14:49 owen         ...for setting up git
14:49 cabillman    thanks owen
14:49 owen         http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?id=en:development:git_usage
14:48 cabillman    jwagner: are there any directions for a git install posted online? I have seen mention of it before but I can't recall where
14:47 jwagner      Make sure you do your installation as a git install so that updating will be easier.  And set up a test server so you can play with the 3.2 version as it progresses.
14:47 cabillman    has anything changed with the borrowers table? I have scripts to import our students daily from our student information system
14:46 cabillman    i was leaning that way, since I really don't want to give our demo site a bad feeling of koha
14:46 gmcharlt     acquisitions in particular
14:45 jwagner      It may really depend on what modules you plan to use.  If you're using pieces that had major changes in 3.2, I'd be very cautious.
14:45 cabillman    ok, so it sounds like the general consensus is to stick with stable
14:44 gmcharlt     I actually agree with jwagner, but my comment was inspired by the fact that if you're running, you already have experience using 3.2-alpha
14:44 cabillman    i'm not used to bugzilla, I was trying to take a look at the bugs and see what would impact us
14:43 jwagner      I think the current version will be much more stable in another month or so, but that's too close to your go-live date.
14:42 jwagner      cabillman, I'd personally be very reluctant to go live with the current 3.2 version -- there are still too many bugs.  If you were going live in, say, August instead of April, that would be a different matter.
14:42 gmcharlt     the beta should be stable enough for an April go-live, but certainly I can understand being prudent and sticking with a maintenance release (which would be 3.0.6 by then)
14:41 cabillman    gmcharlt: I don't think their are any features in 3.2 that we absolutely need to go live
14:40 cabillman    gmcharlt: right now we are running
14:39 gmcharlt     cabillman: having you been testing with 3.2 yet, or testing with 3.0.x?
14:39 cabillman    does anyone have any advice regarding 3.2? Should we just wait until it gets released?
14:37 cabillman    gmcharlt: yes. we actually went one site earlier this year and took a look at their setup
14:37 cabillman    some want to stick with 3.0x and others want to try 3.2 alpha/beta
14:37 gmcharlt     cabillman: hi - I see Solanco is setting a trend (I'm a Solanco alum) :)
14:36 cabillman    we are having an internal discussion regarding which version to deploy
14:36 owen         Welcome cabillman
14:36 cabillman    the rest will follow sometime over the summer
14:36 cabillman    Hi everyone. I work for penn manor school district and we are getting ready to go live with koha at one building on April 1st.
14:27 gmcharlt     i.e., it *ought* to be possible to have an ICU-based Zebra config that doesn't prevent right truncation from working
14:26 gmcharlt     Zebra can use ICU as a means of normalizing the strings that it indexes, but string normalization by itself shouldn't preclude the use of Zebra's ability to do right truncation
14:25 owen         gmcharlt: Can you elaborate?
14:15 gmcharlt     but hopefully there is no reason why ICU indexing *necessarily* means having to give up right truncation
14:15 owen         Then icu is not my friend
14:14 gmcharlt     owen: losing right truncation is not worth it
14:14 owen         I'm still confused. Can I afford to use icu and lose right truncation as long as stemming is working?
14:12 gmcharlt     getting *that* to work is where fuzziness would come into play
14:12 gmcharlt     I saw "Pokemon" and "Pokmon"
14:12 gmcharlt     owen: hdl_laptop has it, but the fact that my IRC channel dropped the diacritics in your statement about Pokemon points to yet another aspect
14:11 hdl_laptop   Owen : the charmap or icu should be your friend.
14:11 hdl_laptop   Or you can index the real words and search with truncation. But in the "living" case where you would like to search for Life also, vould be a little more tricky
14:10 owen         We just want a search for "Pokemon" to find Pokémon :)
14:09 hdl_laptop   Two philosophy can be used : index stemmed words and exact search on stemmed operands.
14:07 gmcharlt     *harder
14:07 gmcharlt     but harding to do well, of course
14:07 gmcharlt     in principle, yes
14:06 owen         So stemming is really more important than right truncation, if it works correctly
14:06 jdavidb      It *appears* to, yes...it returns non-zero hits, at least...but nearly a third fewer hits...maybe, maybe not.
14:05 hdl_laptop   but right truncation works.
14:05 gmcharlt     right truncation: histor* => history; left truncation: *story => history
14:05 hdl_laptop   that problem looked to be assigned since 2008
14:04 hdl_laptop   jdavidb: Yes I realized that. And asked ID for a hint about that.
14:04 jdavidb      dog% returns fewer results on the ICU-based system, too.  hm.
14:03 gmcharlt     stemming: "life" returns "living", "lives" - i.e., attempts to identify component of words and generalize
14:03 * hdl_laptop confusing his left and right....
14:03 jdavidb      sure 'nuf, it doesn't.  The non-testing version of this catalog returns a bunch for title %story, but the icu-testing version gets zero hits.
14:02 owen         hdl_laptop: I don't understand. Searching *story and finding history is what?
14:02 hdl_laptop   gmcharlt: no. It is searching *story and you find history
14:02 gmcharlt     truncation: "truncati" retruns "truncation", "truncations", "truncationing", etc. # sorry, all of my English teachers!
14:01 gmcharlt     owen: that could be either stemming or truncation
14:00 owen         Am I correct in understanding that right-truncation is the ability to return results for "dogs" when searching for "dog" ?
13:59 jdavidb      Set up ICU, make changes to zebra config, and reindex.  Haven't looked into the right-truncation thing.
13:59 owen         hdl_laptop commented that using icu.xml helped, but that it "cannot provide ppl with right truncation"
13:59 jdavidb      Oh, the bits from Brian Harrington work fine, with the exception of the "transliterate" rules, at least on my machine.
13:58 jdavidb      Lemme see if I can find a reference...
13:58 jdavidb      There are some changes to make to zebra that seem to make that go, owen; I've been testing that.
13:57 munin        04Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=2629 major, P1, ---, gmcharlt@gmail.com, NEW, Diacritics not being ignored when searching
13:57 owen         Anyone know anything new about Bug 2629?
13:57 munin        jdavidb: Quote #49: "wizzyrea: KOHAKONG: Stomping all other ILS's" (added by chris_n at 11:20 AM, December 22, 2009)
13:57 jdavidb      @quote random
13:54 munin        jdavidb: Quote #27: "<jdavidb> ("A helicopter does not fly; it is a collection of quasi-unrelated parts moving in close formation, beating the sky into submission.")" (added by gmcharlt at 05:21 PM, August 22, 2009)
13:54 jdavidb      @quote random
13:52 jwagner      I think I'm one episode short of a _complete_ set of all the shows.  Probably an indication of a serious character flaw....
13:51 gmcharlt     jwagner++
13:51 * jdavidb    did, sure enough.
13:50 * jdavidb    figures he'll get vigorously harrrrumph-ed for that.
13:50 * collum     now has to hum "It's a small world after all" to get the spam song out of his head
13:50 gmcharlt     the asymptote of all nerdish discussion on the intertubes are replays of Monty Python skits
13:50 munin        jdavidb: The operation succeeded.  Quote #63 added.
13:50 jdavidb      @quote add <jwagner>	But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!
13:49 * jwagner    knows that's conflating a couple of skits, but...
13:49 jwagner      But no one expects the Spammish Inquisition!
13:47 * jdavidb    starts humming a Monty Python bit about Spam...
13:45 gmcharlt     paul_p: I think that spammer has earned themselves being unsubscribed and blocked
13:32 paul_p       radical mormons = seems they started huge spamming... got 10 in my mailbox :(
13:32 magnus       RaDicAl -> RDA!
13:31 jwagner      beats me....
13:30 collum       Into what? :)
13:29 jwagner      I was wondering if someone was submitting a patch to convert to radical mormons....
13:26 * owen       thinks, "Radical mormons eh? Yeah, that's on-topic..."
13:25 ebegin       good morning all!
13:24 jwagner      Morning.
13:24 jdavidb      hi, gmcharlt. :)
13:24 gmcharlt     good morning
13:22 magnus       um, not my cup of tea, but thanks anyway ;-)
13:21 jwagner      magnus, that was a tremendous finish in the 50K cross-country -- congratulations to your countryman!
13:20 owen         Hi
13:20 magnus       good morning owen
13:20 * jdavidb    waves at owen
13:19 jdavidb      Hi, magnus! :)
13:18 jwagner      Morning, magnus.
13:15 magnus       good jmorning jwagner and jdavidb et al
13:08 jwagner      Morning, kf
13:07 kf           good morning jwagner
12:54 jwagner      mumble mumble good morning mumble mumble....
08:44 kf           hi chris
08:42 chris        hi kf
08:40 kf           good morning :)
08:23 magnus       hi chris et al
08:23 paul_p       hi chris & al
08:23 chris        hi magnus and paul_p
08:01 chris        ah in that case, you need to mount it on a working computer, set mysql up to use the dir that mysql is on the HD, then do a mysqldump
08:00 jorge        its jsut the OS but the HD is still working
07:58 chris        well if you have a dead hd, you have a dead hd, doesnt matter whats on it if its dead
07:57 jorge        whoa! pretty bad
07:56 chris        cant restore from backup if you have no backup
07:56 chris        theres probably not much you can do then
07:55 jorge        difinitely
07:55 chris        so no regular backups were made at all? and the hd is crashed?
07:54 jorge        nope. since i took over this system its already down, the OS itself
07:53 chris        did you have a mysqldump of the database?
07:49 jorge        ?
07:48 jorge        anybody here?
07:48 jorge        anyone can help, i want to retrieve the database files of khoa from my crashed HD
07:37 CGI979       hello, anyone can help me with my problem? i want retrieve my koha Database files from a hard disk which crash down. im not familiar with it, help anyone?
07:27 chris        hi Ropuch
07:25 Ropuch       Morning #koha
00:54 brendan      now we'll have to wait and grow some tasty veggies and see if the fence can withstand the onslaught of gophers
00:54 brendan      me too
00:53 chris        glad you beat it in the end
00:52 brendan      that was the fence that attacked my arm and put me in the emergency room
00:52 brendan      finally finished the fence around our veggie garden plot
00:51 chris        looks it
00:51 brendan      excellent day here :)
00:51 brendan      hey chris
00:51 chris        hi brendan
00:51 munin        brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 15.9�C (4:50 PM PST on February 28, 2010). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 58%. Dew Point: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.93 in 1013.4 hPa (Steady).
00:51 brendan      @wunder 93117