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ricardo |
chris: Are you here? |
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ricardo |
@later tell chris Hi Chris! :) I sent you an e-mail with the updated (and likely final) Portuguese translations of OPAC and STAFF. Please, read it. Thanks! |
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ricardo: The operation succeeded. |
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ricardo |
@later tell hdl_laptop Hi Henri! :) I CCed you the e-mail that I sent Chris with the updated (and likely final) Portuguese translations of OPAC and STAFF. Please, read it. Thanks! |
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ricardo: The operation succeeded. |
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ricardo |
Hi again... Hi Galen! |
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Way past my bed time. I have to go to bed now. Take care! :) |
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thd |
brendon is that you or your ghost? |
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thd |
brendan is that you or your ghost? |
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brendan |
that is me |
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brendan |
hi thd |
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thd |
hello brendan |
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thd |
have I come across harshly about the ballot on the mailing list? |
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brendan |
not harshly -- just long winded |
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thd |
brendan: Do some people think that long winded and harsh are the same? |
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brendan |
it's tough -- so much emotion in the issue |
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thd |
or similar |
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thd |
? |
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brendan |
I don't know if harsh = long winded |
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brendan |
not in my mind |
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brendan |
I've been overwhelmed by all you've written |
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brendan |
and honestly haven't even opened the last two emails that you sent earlier today |
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brendan |
I will get to them -- just needed a moment before I read more |
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thd |
brendan: the last one about the ballot was the only good one |
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brendan |
brb |
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brendan |
back |
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brendan |
ok will have to read that one |
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brendan |
I've agreed with the ballot issues -- |
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thd |
brendan: agreed about what aspect? |
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brendan |
that would should not pigeon-hole ourselves into forming a foundation now -- |
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brendan |
stewardship should be first (or some sensible holder for domain and name of koha) |
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thd |
brendan: chris had noticed that only new people to Koha had voted for "independent foundation now" |
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thd |
which raised speculation that they did not know how much work that would involve |
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thd |
brendan: yet I was last asking for fairness to not take away that option after first offering it. |
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thd |
brendan: did I appear to be disrespectful of nengard and her charge by being long winded or in what I wrote? |
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brendan |
reading back through them now |
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Amit |
hi chris, brendan, richard |
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Amit |
good morning #koha |
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thd |
good morning Amit |
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brendan |
Amit good evening |
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brendan |
thd - do you feel that you were disrespectful of nengard? |
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Amit |
hi thd |
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thd |
brendan: no I do not but feelings are not important if someone else has felt affected differently |
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thd |
brendan: no I do not but my feelings are not important if someone else has felt affected differently |
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thd |
brendan: I also think that I apologised once in case I may have seemed harsh |
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brendan |
I would let it settle for a day |
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brendan |
time for everyone to read through your messages |
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thd |
brendan: I am quite certain they mostly go unread beyond the first few lines |
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thd |
brendan: responses were often to only the first few lines |
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thd |
... which often missed the key point |
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brendan |
*nods* |
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thd |
brendan: I actually had the same sentiment as most people of wanting less discussion |
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thd |
brendan: I was willing to work like crazy to give the less discussion options the best chance |
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thd |
... and a fair chance |
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thd |
most suggestions I read on IRC were about rigging the ballot to ensure that the less discussion options were chosen |
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brendan |
As far as nengard being disrespected - I don't know if she was or not -- I do know that she wants what's best and wants the ballot to be out that will best help koha |
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thd |
Yes, I think her first choice was to rig the ballot for the best an actually that is a very defensible position |
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brendan |
ah thd -- I gotta run for a little bit -- my wife just got home... cya in a bit |
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thd |
Ok |
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rach: are you there? |
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thd |
rach: you have not voted on wiki-relicensing |
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rach: maybe you also have multiple votes on wiki-relicensing |
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kf |
morning #koha |
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hi kf and #koha |
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kf |
good morning nicomo |
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Ropuch |
Morning |
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Ropuch |
Hi kf, hello nicomo |
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good morning Ropuch |
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hdl_laptop |
hi |
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Ropuch |
Morning hdl_laptop |
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hdl_laptop |
hi Ropuch |
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kf |
is there an easy way to change messaging_preferences after import? I looked at the sql tables, but it seems rather complicated |
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kf |
morning hdl_laptop |
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heya kf, nicomo |
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hi Amit |
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hi Amit |
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Amit |
hi galen, ricardo |
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ricardo |
Good morning Amit ! |
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gmcharlt |
hi Amit (and goodbye for moment, about to board airplane) |
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* chris |
finally makes it back to wellington |
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chris |
now to push up some translations |
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hdl_laptop |
oh... It is late. |
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hdl_laptop |
hi chris. |
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hdl_laptop |
I thought you would finally not make it |
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ricardo |
Good morning chris & Henri! :) |
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Amit |
hi hdl |
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chris |
yeah i will probably need to do some tomorrow morning im afraid hdl :() |
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ricardo |
"I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." - Douglas Adams, English humorist & science fiction novelist (1952 - 2001) |
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ricardo |
;-) |
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chris |
:) |
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chris |
i didnt expect the hotel to have such useless internet :( and when i was at the conference everyone wanted to talk |
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chris |
which was good, lots of interest in koha, but bad, that i got nothing done |
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chris |
hdl_laptop: the french po file works fine |
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hdl_laptop |
chris will send a message to announce delay |
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chris |
make sure you say it was my fault |
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chris |
:) |
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hdl_laptop |
No. |
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hdl_laptop |
Some bugs are still quite disturbing the process : |
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hdl_laptop |
shelf browsing and moresearches + the one on reserves |
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Amit |
hi chris |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: For my part, I'll finish testing one of the bugs I submitted / followed up and closing it |
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Amit |
hdl_laptop: Duplicate insertion in syspref.sql in maintenance branch koha |
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hdl_laptop |
ok ricardo. |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: :) |
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chris |
ahh ok |
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hdl_laptop |
Amit : line pls ? |
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ricardo |
chris: If you get any problem with the PO file I sent you "yesterday", feel free to bug me |
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ricardo |
s/PO file/PO files |
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hdl_laptop |
ricardo: patch applied for NoZebra. |
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Amit |
hdl: line no 32 |
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ricardo |
hdl_laptop: Very cool. Thank you very much! :) |
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Amit |
i have already send a patch http://lists.koha.org/pipermai[…]tober/004718.html |
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Amit |
hdl_laptop: line number 32 |
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chris |
will do ricardo :) |
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chris |
just about to test now |
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hdl_laptop |
ok thanks. |
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ricardo |
chris: Thanks :) |
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chris |
works fine |
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ricardo |
chris: Cool, thanks |
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chris |
ok, pushed up |
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chris |
and now i think i will get some sleep, french, italian, and portuguese updated |
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chris |
tomorrow i have to set up albanian (wont make it for 3.0.4 obviously) |
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ricardo |
chris: Many thanks. Sleep well! :) |
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Bar |
Hello > I am having a nightmare with LDAP authentication. My site keeps updating the branchcode everytime a user logs in even though <update> is set to 0 |
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Bar |
Can anyone help? |
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hdl_laptop |
Bar: have you tried the latest Auth_with_ldap file ? Or is it an old version ? |
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hdl_laptop |
if ($borrowernumber) { |
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hdl_laptop |
if ($config{update}) { # A1, B1 |
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hdl_laptop |
my $c2 = &update_local($local_userid,$password,$borrowernumber,\%borrower) || ''; |
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hdl_laptop |
($cardnumber eq $c2) or warn "update_local returned cardnumber '$c2' instead of '$cardnumber'"; |
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hdl_laptop |
} else { # C1, D1 |
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hdl_laptop |
# maybe update just the password? |
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hdl_laptop |
} |
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hdl_laptop |
} elsif ($config{replicate}) { # A2, C2 |
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hdl_laptop |
$borrowernumber = AddMember(%borrower) or die "AddMember failed"; |
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hdl_laptop |
} else { |
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hdl_laptop |
return 0; # B2, D2 |
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hdl_laptop |
latest one has that kind of things. |
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Amit |
hi jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
Hi, Amit! :) |
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Amit |
hdl_laptop: I m right |
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hdl_laptop |
hi jdavidb |
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jdavidb |
Howdy, hdl. :) How are things? |
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Bar |
Not sure....I will take a look....apart from the code you posted, is there any way to check the version of the Auth_with_ldap file ? |
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hdl_laptop |
jdavidb: good how are you ? |
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hdl_laptop |
Bar: git log C4/Auth_with_ldap.pm |
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jdavidb |
Doing well. :) It's a lovely, cool fall morning here. |
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hdl_laptop |
Bar: on a 3.0.x install you should have : d705a0394f27f8d6727c27a24408a65f5686c31a |
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Bar |
fatal: Not a git repository |
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jdavidb |
Good morning, nengard! :) |
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nengard |
morning! |
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hdl_laptop |
Bar you are installing in standard mode ? |
| 11:53 |
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hdl_laptop |
hi nengard |
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Bar |
hdl_laptop> To be honest, I am not sure what that means! We have the system in place for about 6 months, Live and working well. It's only recently that we noticed this problem |
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Bar |
I am not sure if it has always been there, I would say it has |
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hdl_laptop |
Bar: /me always thinks he's talking to geeks on irc ;) |
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hdl_laptop |
latest version of Auth_with_ldap.pm should fix your problem |
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Bar |
sorry!! I am trying me best to get to that status though! |
| 11:58 |
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Bar |
Cool, can I just grab that, on it's own from somewhere? |
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hdl_laptop |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]554a2148;hb=3.0.x |
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hdl_laptop |
here |
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Bar |
Nice! I will let you know how it goes. |
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Amit |
hi nengard |
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chris_n |
howdy nengard |
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nengard |
hi all |
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jwagner |
Good morning all. |
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kf |
jwagner: good morning! |
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kf |
nengard: good morning! (should start reading from top) |
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chris_n |
@coffee |
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munin |
chris_n: downloading the Perl source |
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* chris_n |
thinks we might write a plugin for munin to make coffee in the morning (local time of course) |
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jdavidb |
Ooo...that's a good idea, chris_n. |
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jdavidb |
Think we could coax in a cappuccino and hot chocolate add-on, too? |
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chris_n |
or tea according to one's taste |
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chris_n |
jdavidb: excellent idea |
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kf |
nengard, jwagner: do you have some time to discuss holds management with me? Im not sure how to handle things at our library |
| 12:07 |
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jwagner |
Definitely add tea to the specs |
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nengard |
sure |
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jwagner |
kf, I can try, not sure I'm the best person. |
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nengard |
kf, i'm up for trying too - and if you have suggestions on how i can write the manual on it better - i'm up for that too |
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kf |
ok |
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kf |
first I will try to explain the situation |
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kf |
the library has closed stacks, so I have areas where the user cant go |
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kf |
the items should be not on loan but holdable |
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kf |
I have areas with free access too |
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kf |
and I have areas in closed stacks with item not for loan, but only for use in reading room |
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kf |
and on top of that: the library works with rfid and a self checkout system that is not as intelligent as a librarian at the desk would be |
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kf |
and thank you in advance for your time! |
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jwagner |
kf, not sure what the question is. Do you allow on-shelf holds? |
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kf |
we went with allow-on-shelf-holds on |
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jwagner |
So the materials in your closed stacks can be placed on hold. You should then be able to pull those items and check them out, correct? |
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kf |
yes this part works fine |
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kf |
but I dont understand how holds in free areas will work |
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kf |
or are supposed to work |
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jwagner |
They should work the same way -- someone places an on-shelf hold, it shows up on the holds to pull list, your staff get it from the shelves and trigger the hold. |
| 12:19 |
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kf |
after a hold is placed - can another patron check the items out? |
| 12:20 |
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kf |
after a title level hold is placed, can another item be checked out? |
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kf |
what happens when the patron pulls the book and its not pulled? |
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jwagner |
There is a syspref AllowHoldPolicyOverride that determines whether your staff are allowed to ignore the waiting hold on the item and check it out to another person. |
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kf |
self check machine :( |
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kf |
but normally it should not be possible for another patron to take the item? |
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kf |
after a hold is placed? |
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kf |
I think it should not be possible to check out a book where another patron placed a hold on |
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jwagner |
There's a difference between "hold is placed" and "hold is triggered" -- if a hold is triggered (by checking the item in), it shouldn't allow anyone else to check it out except the person with the hold. |
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kf |
and what influence has the build_holds_queue? for testing we have it runing every hour, but I think other libraries only twice a day? |
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kf |
ok, but this needs check in |
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kf |
so the patron has no guarantee that the book he placed a hold on will still be there, when he comes to get it |
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kf |
the library wanted to pull the items in the evening |
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kf |
1/day |
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kf |
I feel like I miss something important |
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kf |
:( |
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jwagner |
It's getting a little out of my level of understanding, too. nengard? What's a "standard" timing for the reports? |
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kf |
the question is, does the cron job has an effect on the hold? |
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nengard |
oops - sorry - got caught up fighting with web design - reading back now |
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kf |
on the status or something? or is it just building the list |
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nengard |
kf, okay i'm caught up and I think becuase of the self checkout machine you're going to have an issue |
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kf |
jwagner: how are holds working in your libraries? are there libraries using allowonshelfholds on? |
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nengard |
also - many libraries that i talk to do not allow on shelf holds |
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kf |
nengard: I had a feeling it might be a problem :( |
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nengard |
because i means too much work to keep up with it |
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kf |
yes, we fear that too |
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nengard |
as a patron I love when libraries allow me to place on shelf holds |
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kf |
but the only option I see for closed stacks is to loan all items to a staff user |
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nengard |
this sounds like something that we might need someone to develop an improvmeent for |
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kf |
as an alternative to onshelfholds on |
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kf |
problem: I need a work around now, because the library is in production |
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nengard |
hmmm |
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kf |
and we have not the resources for development or sponsoring right now |
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kf |
I think it wold help if allowonshelfholds would be more granular |
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kf |
per library or better location / collection / item type |
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nengard |
i hate to say it - but this is a function that I know has already been written - but not for Koha 3.0 or 3.2 - it's in LEK |
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owen |
Hi all |
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nengard |
hiya owen |
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nengard |
do you have any tips for kf? |
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jwagner |
Some of our libraries allow on-shelf holds, and some don't. We've been working with a lot of development on holds and circ rules, but this isn't one of them. It sounds like it could be fixed by either checking the collection to a staff user as Nicole suggests or adding a setting to the location about whether on-shelf holds allowed for this location. |
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kf |
hi owen |
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nengard |
what kf needs is call slip functionality - to allow for call slips on closed stacks but not holds on onshelf items |
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nengard |
these are 2 diff things |
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nengard |
it's what we did in the seminary library i worked in |
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* chris_n |
greets owen |
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paul_p |
'morning nengard, chris_n & owen |
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chris_n |
g'morning paul_p |
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jwagner |
Mumble many years ago, I did some research as a student in Library of Congress -- to request items from the stacks I had to fill out request slips & give them to staff. That's what you're meaning by call slip functionality? |
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kf |
nengard: call slip functionality - will note that :) only know it as closed stacks request |
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nengard |
same thing :) |
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kf |
question is: how to do it with koha |
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nengard |
yes jwagner - except in an automated form |
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owen |
I had an early library job as the flunkie who pulls books from the stacks with those call slips |
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nengard |
kf - unfortunately I have no work around for you - no way I can think to do it with your system the way it is now :( |
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kf |
ok, what you say is: allowonshelfholds will allow users to check out books at the self check, even if there is a hold on them from another user |
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kf |
do you think it would work when we check out everything to a staff user? |
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kf |
and set allowonshelfholds to off? |
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jwagner |
If there is a _triggered_ hold, your self-check system should not allow that to be checked out. Maybe an update to the SIP would fix that problem. |
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kf |
but the hold only get triggered when the item is checked in first, as I understand it |
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jwagner |
Correct, so staff may have to run the holds to pull report more frequently and checkin/trigger the holds. |
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kf |
we did some tests with ReservesNeedReturns - but I still dont get what this is supposed to do |
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kf |
at first glance I thought it would trigger the hodls without checking them in |
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nengard |
i'm not sure how checking items out to a staff member would make a difference |
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nengard |
how would you do that? |
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kf |
not sure, perhaps using the offline circ and a barcode list to check them out in batch |
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kf |
once they are checked out, we could set allowonshelfholds back to off and closed stack items could be placed on hold |
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kf |
would need another report - check for items with item type x with placed holds |
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nengard |
i guess what i meant was how would checking items out to the staff help with the closed stacks/call slip situation |
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kf |
I think this could work... but not sure about it |
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kf |
check them out to a "closed stacks staff member" to make them holdable |
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kf |
nengard: do you know how this works in LEK? perhaps we can steal some ideas from it |
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nengard |
i just know it's a function in it - not how it works |
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nengard |
sorry |
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nengard |
http://academic-staff.demo.koh[…]rculation-home.pl |
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nengard |
u/p liblime/liblime |
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kf |
nengard: but thx, I did not know that its also called a call slip |
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kf |
so didnt even know what to ask and look for :) |
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nengard |
i'm sure it's called diff things in diff libraries ;) |
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owen |
Hmmm... LibLime could really use someone to go over their templates and clean them up for them. |
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jwagner |
I think long term the best fix might be setting on-shelf hold ability by location. But a full "call slip" module would probably have a lot of uses too. |
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kf |
found it - its on circulation page above holds queue |
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kf |
by location would be graet, because no need for different libraries |
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jdavidb |
owen, isn't that something you used to do a lot of? template cleanup and stuff? |
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kf |
(found it refers to LEK...) |
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owen |
jdavidb: Yeah, for some reason the LEK templates just aren't up to the standard set by the open source version of Koha. Strange. |
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jdavidb |
Since they don't have your brilliance liberally seeded in there, owen, this comes as no particular surprise to me... |
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owen |
It's not brilliance, it's just many hands making light work |
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* kf |
nods |
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kf |
owen: I think you really do great work |
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jdavidb |
yah, but once the filename ends in .tmpl, yours is especially skilled, sir. Thanks for all you do. |
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owen |
Hey, it beats sitting at home sorting Legos into different boxes according to color. |
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giggling at owen |
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kf |
jwagner, nengard: thx a lot for your insight. I will try with an enhancement request and perhaps we will have to go with checking out closed stacks to an virtual user |
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hdl_laptop |
kf: for 3.0.x, there are things that are comming regarding reserves allowed. |
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hdl_laptop |
by branch itemtype and categorycode |
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hdl_laptop |
sorry |
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kf |
I know you can limit them for itemtype/borrower category |
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hdl_laptop |
master |
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kf |
yes, but only the maximum number of requests per user |
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kf |
my problem is item status and requestability |
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hdl_laptop |
oh |
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hdl_laptop |
will read logs more carefully then |
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kf |
which is something that LEK seems possible of - but dont found out where its configured there... hm. |
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kf |
hdl_laptop: no - im glad you mentioned this - its just that I peeked at your test installation after the last IRC meeting |
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kf |
hdl_laptop: great new features for circ matrix! |
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kf |
a possibility to differentiate between items in closed stacks and items on shelf - closed stacks holdable - on shelf not holdable |
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jdavidb |
nahuel: ping? |
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nahuel |
pong |
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jdavidb |
your bug 3710 is something I'm working on lately; I've got a first-version of it about ready to release, and some enhancements in mind. |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3710 enhancement, P5, ---, nahuel.angelinetti biblibre.com, NEW, New script for recent acquisitions |
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jdavidb |
Do you already have a solution in mind, or want to hang tight for mine? I'll be happy to take the ticket up. |
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nahuel |
I've done it, based on an hdl script |
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jdavidb |
:) OK. I may think up some enhancements, based on what our customers are clamoring for. |
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nahuel |
hehe |
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nahuel |
perhaps it needs some improvments |
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nahuel |
It do too much sql queries as I like. |
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jdavidb |
Mine is based on bib add date, and allows dropping items of given types. Right now, it's a toggle to show up on the front OPAC page, but I'm also working on a link on the banner, or the shelf-browser thing on the front page. |
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jdavidb |
Only does one SQL query. |
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hdl_laptop |
jdavidb: some of our customers prefers to rely on items timestamp. |
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hdl_laptop |
But you might want to see that |
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jdavidb |
I thought about a toggle to do that, too, but hadn't quite gotten there, as none of our requestors was specifically looking for that. |
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hdl_laptop |
nahuel will commit his work on git.biblibre.com |
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jdavidb |
All controlled in sysprefs, of course. :) |
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hdl_laptop |
in a specific branch |
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hdl_laptop |
bug3710 |
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hdl_laptop |
so you'll be able to take and test |
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jdavidb |
Thanks! Going to send it out to head soon? I'd love to collaborate with y'all on it, so that one really nice answer gets sent out. |
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jwagner |
owen, online? |
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owen |
Yes |
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jwagner |
Any ideas on this one? We're getting occasional search errors in the OPAC, referring to opac-tmpl/prog/en/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.highlight-3.js:38 and complaining that 'data' is null or not an object. |
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* nengard |
having a greater appreciation for owen as I fight with css |
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owen |
jquery.highlight-3.js is the jquery plugin for highlighting search terms |
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owen |
Since your errors are occasional, my guess is that something about the contents of the search results page is causing problems |
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owen |
Is there anything about the pages with errors that stands out as a possible commonality? |
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jwagner |
Not that I can see, but I'm not sure what I'd be looking for. I tried turning off the OpacHighlightedWords syspref but the error still showed up. What should I look for? |
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owen |
jwagner: Even with no search term highlighting you got the error? |
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kf |
OpacHighlightedWords does nothing, there is a bug for it |
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jwagner |
owen, correct. |
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owen |
jwagner: Given what kf says, I take it you get search term highlighting either way? |
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kf |
bug 3589 |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3589 normal, P5, ---, gmcharltgmail.com, NEW, OpacHighlightedWords sys pref does nothing |
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kf |
i know that there is a mistake in term highlighting connected to our 880 display - I hope I can send a patch for that soon, but it should not lead to an error, its just highlighting to much atm |
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jwagner |
owen, looking at the OPAC page source with firebug I see several complaints about start and end tags -- they seem to be related to the enhanced content (Syndetics in this case). Any relevance? |
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owen |
jwagner: It's possible I suppose. |
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owen |
The term highlighting plugin has to parse the data on the page in order to highlight...it's possible that it's choking on bad markup I guess |
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owen |
Does the problem go away if you turn off Syndetics content? |
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jwagner |
Just tried that -- no, problem is still there. |
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jwagner |
So while there could be some cleanup on the enhanced content HTML, that doesn't seem to be the problem. |
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ricardo |
Uh-oh... |
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ricardo |
[10498.525663] Out of memory: kill process 3671 (apache2) score 413646 or a child |
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ricardo |
[10498.525726] Killed process 4730 (opac-detail.pl) |
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ricardo |
[10892.806203] Out of memory: kill process 3671 (apache2) score 407414 or a child |
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ricardo |
[10892.806264] Killed process 4735 (500.pl) |
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ricardo |
Debugging time :( |
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owen |
jwagner: Any other thoughts about what might be different for the pages which are showing the error? |
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jwagner |
Just tried an experiment -- in opac-results.tmpl I commented out the call to <script type="text/javascript" src="<!-- TMPL_VAR name="themelang" -->/lib/jquery/plugins/jquery.highlight-3.js"></script> |
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jwagner |
With that removed, the error goes away. But I don't know the implications of removing that. |
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owen |
If you remove that you get no search term highlighting |
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jwagner |
But according to kf, the highlighting isn't working now anyway. Any other implications? |
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jwagner |
I looked on another system (updated Koha), and the jquery.highlight-3.js script is datestamped 2009-09-23. Maybe something changed in that version? |
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Bar |
hdl_laptop: are you around? I updated the Auth_with_ldap.pm file to the new one and now no user can login!! The following error is appearing in the error_log: |
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Bar |
LDAP Auth rejected : invalid password for user 'usertest'. LDAP error #16: LDAP_NO_SUCH_ATTRIBUTE, referer: |
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Bar |
changing back to the old pm file restores connectivity but the update problem remains |
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owen |
jwagner: It's not that search term highlighting isn't working, it's that the preference to turn it on and off isn't working |
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owen |
It works fine for me without errors |
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jwagner |
Hmmmm..... |
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owen |
jwagner: Would you like me to do a test? Do 'view-source' on the search results page and send me the HTML. |
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jwagner |
owen, it's on the way. |
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jwagner |
Looking at a system which is a somewhat earlier version of Koha, at 3.01.00.037 there is a check for OpacHighlightedWords in C4/Search.pm. That check is missing by Koha version 3.01.00.061. |
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owen |
I think that's correct...because the term highlighting used to happen in the script, and now it's handled by the jquery plugin. |
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jwagner |
Darn. Another good theory shot down.... |
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owen |
It sounds like the check for OpacHighlightedWords just never got moved to the template |
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owen |
jwagner: I'm trying the HTML you sent me, and the first thing I'm wondering is if you get the same error without the site-specific customizations (opacheader, opacuserjs, etc) |
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jwagner |
In the general vicinity of lines 284-301? Yes. There are some problems with what they want to use in those blocks. However, I don't think they're related to the jquery error -- we get the same error on a different system. |
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owen |
Okay, I just wanted to make sure you've tried eliminating those variables |
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owen |
jwagner: Other search results pages from that same install don't show the error? |
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chris_n |
gmcharlt: tnx for pushing that |
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jwagner |
owen, not sure what you mean. It's intermittent for most systems. I can always provoke the error by doing a particular set of steps in a development branch we're working with, so that's how I've been testing. |
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owen |
One key to finding the problem might be to find out what makes it intermittent: what is different on the pages with the error compared to the pages which don't have the error. |
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owen |
If two search results screen from the same system do and do not have the error, then you've got a good place to start looking |
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jwagner |
AHA! I did a diff between the page I sent you and the same search that doesn't get the error. The page giving the error has a space in front of the search term, like var query_desc = " seasons"; |
| 15:06 |
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jwagner |
If I manually do a search for space seasons, it provokes the error. |
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owen |
Yup, I get the same on my install (except Firefox won't even process the script and show me an error--it just crashes) |
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jwagner |
There are a bunch of other differences that I'll have to look at, but that seems to be the most likely culprit. |
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jwagner |
So somewhere there needs to be a check for leading (and trailing?) spaces on a search term. Where's the best place for that? opac-search.pl? |
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owen |
Nope, it's all jquery--all client-side. So the template. |
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owen |
q_array = query_desc.split(" "); |
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owen |
Actually, just above that |
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owen |
Line 164 of opac-results.tmpl |
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owen |
var query_desc = "<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="query_desc" ESCAPE="JS"-->"; |
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owen |
So maybe trimming it in opac-search.pl would work |
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owen |
I guess it could go either way, but doing so in the script would probably be more efficient |
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owen |
Anyone here done a dev install on Ubuntu? |
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jdavidb |
Once, Owen. |
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jwagner |
owen, I think I've found the right place in opac-search.pl, and added a trim for leading & trailing spaces. Seems to fix the problem. I'll send a patch. Thanks for troubleshooting! |
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owen |
jdavidb: I'm wondering if I should be looking more at the Ubuntu install guide (http://wiki.koha.org/doku.php?[…]ide_ubuntu_hardy) or INSTALL.debian |
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kf |
owen: yes |
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owen |
jwagner: You bet. I'm glad we tracked it down. It was just a fluke that no one had noticed that problem before. |
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jdavidb |
I was doing an install on Easy Peasy, which is Hardy-on-a-diet. I used the hardy installl guide. |
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owen |
kf: yes to which? |
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jdavidb |
I don't recall any big trouble with it. |
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kf |
kf: dev install on ubuntu - sorry |
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kf |
kf = owen (will never learn...) |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 17.6�C (8:36 AM PDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 16.0�C. Pressure: 30.00 in 1015.8 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas until 11 am PDT this morning... |
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kf |
owen: I think I used more than one manual, but it was not so difficult |
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owen |
For all my experience with Koha, I'm a newbie at installing. |
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owen |
The Ubuntu guide refers specifically to installing from the tarball, but those instructions should work just the same if I've cloned a git repo? |
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jdavidb |
Installation isn't hard, owen. Once you've done it a couple of times, you can knock 'em out in minutes. |
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jdavidb |
I used the debian method when I got to that part...pretty much the same, by that time. |
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owen |
One thing I noticed in the Debian guide: Test your SAX Parser and correct where necessary |
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wizzyrea |
every time I've installed on ubuntu, I've used install.debian |
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jdavidb |
I usually have to do that, on new hardware. Installing all the packages mungs up the SAX parser. |
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wizzyrea |
yes, I have the same experience, jdavidb |
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owen |
When I "$ misc/sax_parser_print.pl " I get "Looks bad, check INSTALL.*" |
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jwagner |
owen, bug 3711 FYI. |
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munin |
Bug http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3711 major, PATCH-Sent, ---, jwagnerptfs.com, ASSIGNED, Intermittent search error in OPAC |
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owen |
Hmm... Can't seem to install DBD::mysql |
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owen |
"Warning (usually harmless): 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state" |
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owen |
"Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 82." |
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jdavidb |
Under older versions, I recall having to do force install DBD:mysql, I think. |
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"'/usr/bin/perl Makefile.PL INSTALLDIRS=site' returned status 512, won't make |
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owen |
Running make test" |
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owen |
Any suggestions? |
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owen: the mysql_config error looks like it cant find the mysql libraries |
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ricardo_laptop |
Hi all |
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ricardo_laptop |
Very weird git problem: I'm NOT getting a commit of a file that's been commited |
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ricardo_laptop |
specifically |
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ricardo_laptop |
http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]56fd18eb;hb=3.0.x |
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ricardo_laptop |
(I'm missing the commit from Galen Charlton, dated 2009-0-26 for that 3.0.x branch) |
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ricardo_laptop |
The commit does appear for me in the MASTER branch |
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ricardo_laptop |
Any ideas / comments / further input that I must provide to help troubleshoot this? :-S |
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owen |
Okay, so "Cannot find the file 'mysql_config'! Your execution PATH doesn't seem not contain the path to mysql_config" |
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owen |
How can I correct it? |
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owen |
What and where is "mysql_config"? |
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ricardo_laptop |
owen: Could it be the "my.cnf" file ? |
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kf |
owen: hm, did not get this error during my install - just installed mysql and created database as explained in the manual |
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kf |
owen: changed sudo vi /etc/mysql/my.cnf for utf8 |
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ricardo_laptop |
(Back to my problem... The same commit from Galen Charlton is missing from the repo.or.cz Koha git mirror : |
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ricardo_laptop |
http://repo.or.cz/w/koha.git?a[…]=refs/heads/3.0.x |
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ricardo_laptop |
Never mind this last sentence... Was seeing the wrong file |
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kf |
ok, time to leave work - bye #koha :) |
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Colin |
owen how did you install mysql and were the -devel files installed? |
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ricardo_laptop |
@later tell hdl_laptop Hi Henri. Could you please cherry-pick this commit from Galen Charlton (dated 2009-05-26) for the "unimarc_field_128a.tmpl" file to the 3.0.x branch - http://git.koha.org/cgi-bin/gi[…]dff390af7bc8ca84c ? |
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munin |
ricardo_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
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hdl_laptop |
ricardo_laptop: will do right now |
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ricardo_laptop |
hdl_laptop: Hi! Thanks a lot :) I think I have another one similar... Will check it right now |
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ricardo_laptop |
(Locating "acqui-search-result.tmpl" file...) |
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hdl_laptop |
94abcf6d9879df156cfe31e5630bb389130cdd87 ? |
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hdl_laptop |
going out for "shopping" now. |
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hdl_laptop |
will read the logs |
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hdl_laptop |
ricardo_laptop: pushed for unimarc_field_128a.tmpl |
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ricardo_laptop |
hdl_laptop: Actually, in the case of "aqui-search-tmpl", it's not a case of a missing "cherry pick". A small patch for "acqui-search-tmpl" would be necessary... |
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ricardo_laptop |
hdl_laptop: I think there's a missing "</div>" for the "aqui-search-result.tmpl" file ... Would have to study it further |
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ricardo_laptop |
hdl_laptop: OK. Thanks for pushing unimarc_field_128a.tmpl :) |
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ricardo_laptop |
( I found these problems by finding "too confused to show details" in the output of "./install-code.pl pt-PT" ) |
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ColinC |
Owen: mysql_config is a binary that can be used to see how the mysql libraries were compiled and the options to pass the compiler and linker when building a binary |
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ricardo_laptop |
Gotta go. See ya! |
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* nengard |
lunching |
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cait |
good evening #koha |
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ricardo |
Good evening cait! |
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cait |
hi ricardo |
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* chris_n |
greets cait |
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jdavidb |
Good evening, cait. :) |
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cait |
hi chris_n and jdavidb |
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brendan |
@seen chris |
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munin |
brendan: chris was last seen in #koha 8 hours, 17 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <chris> tomorrow i have to set up albanian (wont make it for 3.0.4 obviously) |
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chris |
morning |
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* chris |
is back in wellington and getting ready for work |
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owen |
Hi chris |
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brendan |
hi chris |
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chris_n |
'morning chris |
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jdavidb |
Hi, chris! |
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brendan |
@seen chris |
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munin |
brendan: chris was last seen in #koha 40 seconds ago: * chris is back in wellington and getting ready for work |
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chris_n |
@wunder 28334 |
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munin |
chris_n: The current temperature in Erwin, North Carolina is 12.0�C (1:59 PM EDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 9.0�C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Rising). |
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brendan |
yeah! |
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cait |
hi chris |
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cait |
@wunder Konstanz |
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munin |
cait: The current temperature in Konstanz, Germany is 4.0�C (8:00 PM CEST on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -3.0�C. Pressure: 30.35 in 1028 hPa (Rising). |
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jdavidb |
@wunder 20852 |
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munin |
jdavidb: The current temperature in Flower Valley, Rockville, Maryland is 9.8�C (2:22 PM EDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 61%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Windchill: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014.4 hPa (Rising). |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.0�C (11:21 AM PDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 18.0�C. Pressure: 30.05 in 1017.5 hPa (Rising). Flash Flood Watch in effect for the recent burn areas until 11 am PDT this morning... |
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cait |
its getting cold here :( |
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jdavidb |
It's been very chilly here today. I finally had to get my coat out yesterday, first time this fall. |
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chris |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
chris: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 13.0�C (7:00 AM NZDT on October 15, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 10.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
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* chris_n |
shakes his fist at Level 3 |
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joetho |
@wunder topeka, ks |
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munin |
joetho: The current temperature in Near Washburn University, Topeka, Kansas is 7.8�C (1:16 PM CDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 90%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 30.03 in 1016.8 hPa (Falling). |
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cait |
jdavidb: first cold day here too, will need gloves now for ride to work by bike |
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joetho |
wow no sun anywhere on the planet |
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joetho |
@wunder st tropez |
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munin |
joetho: Error: No such location could be found. |
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joetho |
figures |
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jdavidb |
@wunder Nassau, bahamas |
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munin |
jdavidb: The current temperature in Nassau Airport, Bahamas is 32.0�C (2:00 PM EDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 51%. Dew Point: 23.0�C. Pressure: 29.96 in 1014 hPa. |
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joetho |
see? cloudy/ |
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jdavidb |
@wunder cabo san lucas, MX |
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munin |
jdavidb: The current temperature in San Jose del Cabo, Mexico is 27.0�C (11:42 AM MDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 25.0�C. Pressure: 29.88 in 1012 hPa (Falling). |
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jdavidb |
Dang! |
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joetho |
give it up |
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joetho |
@wunder anchorage, ak |
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munin |
joetho: The current temperature in The Spurlocks at Airport Heights, Anchorage, Alaska is 7.8�C (10:29 AM AKDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 89%. Dew Point: 6.0�C. Windchill: 8.0�C. Pressure: 29.52 in 999.5 hPa (Steady). |
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* chris_n |
wonders why data centers can advertise multiple links to the backbone as a selling point and then suffer a complete outage with one router overload :-\ |
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joetho |
@wunder honolulu, ha |
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munin |
joetho: The current temperature in Wilhelmina Rise, Honolulu, Hawaii is 24.2�C (8:29 AM HST on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 74%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Rising). |
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joetho |
I worked with a small library network that had fiber connecting each lib, in several different towns, with a 10bT ethernet hub at the end of each fiber run |
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joetho |
they wondered why so slow |
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joetho |
I wondered who designed it |
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chris_n |
heh |
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chris_n |
this outage is on Level 3's network... they are "supposed" to be highly reliable |
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chris_n |
our streaming provider moved to them a month ago which was supposed to "improve" their uptime (which really is near 99.9%) |
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chris_n |
but it's not when your up that really matters, its when you're down |
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ricardo |
Going home now ppl. Take care! |
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chris |
ok, time to catch a bus |
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chris_n |
wow, it must be quitting time ;-) |
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cait |
im still here ;) |
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richard |
hi |
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chris_n |
hello richard |
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* owen |
is ready for quitting time, but not quite there yet |
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chris |
back |
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chris_n |
does anyone have an opinion on Catalyst? |
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chris_n |
the pm that is |
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cait |
pm? |
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owen |
Okay guys, I'm back to worrying about this "Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 82." when trying to install DBD::mysql |
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owen |
I'm in the dark |
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chris_n |
cait: cpan module |
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cait |
chris_n: thx! |
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* chris_n |
looks at owen 's issue |
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chris_n |
owen: what ver of koha? |
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chris_n |
line 82 is POD in the current version of Makefile.PL |
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owen |
I'm trying to do a dev install from git on Ubuntu |
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owen |
I'm following the instructions in INSTALL.ubuntu to install DBD::mysql |
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chris_n |
ahh... the Makefile.PL for DBD::mysql |
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cait |
owen: not sure how I installed it, isnt it available via apt-get? |
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chris_n |
cait is right; owen try sudo apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl |
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cait |
owen: I think this should work |
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owen |
Hm, okay, that worked fine. What do I know, I'm just reading the instructions! :) |
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* chris_n |
will have to talk with the person who mocked up that INSTALL.ubuntu file ;-) |
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chris_n |
owen: on debian and ubuntu it is generally preferable to use the package maintainer's version rather than the cpan version if possible |
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chris_n |
gotta run, bbl |
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hdl_laptop |
cait: can you announce ballot for Koha on german speaking list ? |
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hdl_laptop |
@later tell ricardo can you announce Koha ballot for organisation on portuguese lists ? |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
ah sorry, did not check my work mail yet |
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cait |
hdl: what do I need to do, just forward or translate? |
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hdl_laptop |
@later tell ricardo there are two lists, koha-br and koha-pt |
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munin |
hdl_laptop: The operation succeeded. |
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hdl_laptop |
cait: translate and forward, |
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hdl_laptop |
if the list is read. |
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hdl_laptop |
and it seems it is (from archive ;) ) |
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cait |
I m not sure how many subscribers the list has, but the people I know are reading Koha and koha-devel too i think |
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cait |
anyway: will do it tomorrow if this is ok |
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hdl_laptop |
no problem ppl have until 25th October |
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cait |
ok :) |
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hdl_laptop |
many thx cait |
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cait |
thank me once its done :) |
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hdl_laptop |
owen you need to install mysql-devel in order to have mysql_config |
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owen |
hdl_laptop: Yes, apt-get install libdbd-mysql-perl worked. |
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hdl_laptop |
coming too late, sorry |
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pianohacker |
hello |
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chris |
heya pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
hi chris |
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pianohacker |
how's it going? |
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cait |
hi pianohacker |
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pianohacker |
hi cait_sans_laptop |
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cait |
in fact its the other laptop today :) |
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pianohacker |
ha, okay. what are you up to? |
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cait |
watching torchwood right now :) |
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chris |
http://open-edge.info/irma-birchall |
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chris |
irma presenting on koha |
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nicomo |
hey, is Irma from Belgium? |
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chris |
originally yes |
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pianohacker |
nicomo: how did you guess |
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pianohacker |
?? |
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chris |
she translated my speech when i spoke at kohacon in paris |
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nicomo |
pianohacker: well it's more or less written on the page |
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nicomo |
Irma has been a champion of libraries since her late teens when she set up and managed for 3 years, a community library in her district in Belgium. |
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chris |
:) |
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pianohacker |
right, of course. evidently, I sustained a brain injury at the same time |
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nicomo |
eh eh |
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chris |
hehe |
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nicomo |
and she's got a nice little accent in english too |
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chris |
heh |
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nicomo |
well, with that, I'm off to bed |
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pianohacker |
good night |
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brendan |
night nicomo |
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nicomo |
bye all, have a nice day |
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brendan |
hey pianohacker |
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brendan |
@wunder 93117 |
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pianohacker |
hi brendan |
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munin |
brendan: The current temperature in Northwest Goleta, Goleta, California is 19.9�C (1:22 PM PDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: 19.0�C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017.2 hPa (Steady). |
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pianohacker |
looks like you could have swum to work today :) |
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pianohacker |
@wunder 81212 |
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munin |
pianohacker: The current temperature in Franklin Ave - Downtown, Canon City, Colorado is 24.1�C (2:25 PM MDT on October 14, 2009). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 3.0�C. Pressure: 29.91 in 1012.8 hPa (Falling). |
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brendan |
yeah my back yard has a lot of water in it |
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brendan |
or on it |
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cait |
good night #koha :) |
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brendan |
night |
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pianohacker |
good night, cait |
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hdl_laptop |
night |
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pianohacker |
good night, hdl |
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pianohacker |
@wunder wellington, nz |
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munin |
pianohacker: The current temperature in Wellington, New Zealand is 14.0�C (9:00 AM NZDT on October 15, 2009). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 82%. Dew Point: 11.0�C. Pressure: 29.71 in 1006 hPa (Steady). |
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Agalloch |
I installed the lastest stable version of koha on ubuntu server and have been playing around a bit. For some reason, none of my authority searches seem to be working but everything else is. I rebuilt the indexes a couple times... |
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pianohacker |
Agalloch: are you making sure to run rebuild_(no)zebra.pl with the -a flag? |
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Agalloch |
yes |
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pianohacker |
okay. are you using zebra, or no zebra? |
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Agalloch |
zebra |
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pianohacker |
ok then, it should be working. does anything pop up in your error logs when you search? |
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Agalloch |
I found this page when googling around http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/b[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3072 and tried changing Heading-Main to Heading and rebuilt the indexes again and still no luck. |
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munin |
Bug 3072: major, P5, ---, jmfliblime.com, NEW, 'Heading-Main' authority-index breaks authority searching in STABLE |
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Agalloch |
Should I change it back to Heading-Main? |
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pianohacker |
Maybe. It's possible that something else is broken, though |
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Agalloch |
14:18:55-14/10 zebrasrv(3) [request] Search authorities OK 0 1 1+0 RPN @attrset Bib-1 @or @attr "1=Heading" @attr 7=1 0 @attr 2=103 @attr "1=_ALLRECORDS" '' |
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Agalloch |
wait that wasnt an error was it |
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pianohacker |
doesn't look like it, but zebra can be a bit crypticc |
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pianohacker |
are these imported records, or ones added from within koha? |
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Agalloch |
imported |
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Agalloch |
i guess i only get an error when i do a specific search. i was getting error 109. either way i get no results though |
| 21:23 |
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pianohacker |
hmm. could you try running rebuild_zebra from scratch with the -v flag and pasting the results to http://paste.workbuffer.org/ ? |
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Agalloch |
can i do it while zebra is running? |
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pianohacker |
yes. |
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Agalloch |
where will it output to? the screen or some log file? |
| 21:29 |
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pianohacker |
the screen |
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Agalloch |
ok it's chugging along |
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"Agalloch" at 192.168.15.101 pasted "rebuilding zebra" (69 lines) at http://paste.workbuffer.org/10 |
| 22:36 |
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pianohacker |
that's interesting, it lists no indexed authority records |
| 22:36 |
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chris |
Records exported: 0 |
| 22:37 |
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chris |
its like you have no authorities |
| 22:37 |
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pianohacker |
Agalloch: you did import them through bulkauthimport.pl, right? |
| 22:38 |
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Agalloch |
I imported records. Are the authorities imported separately? |
| 22:38 |
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pianohacker |
ahh, yes they are. |
| 22:38 |
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Agalloch |
I guess that would be my problem |
| 22:39 |
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pianohacker |
hmm, I assume you want it to create authority records automatically. I don't know if it can or should do that. |
| 22:39 |
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pianohacker |
I know it can do that for new records entered manually, but not sure about imported records |
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Agalloch |
I dont think our old system will export them |
| 22:40 |
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pianohacker |
Agalloch: what's the system? |
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Agalloch |
Pretty much the worst one I've ever seen. Spectrum Winnebago |
| 22:41 |
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pianohacker |
I've heard stories about winnebago. |
| 22:41 |
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pianohacker |
you might try asking for help exporting authorities from winnebago on the list |
| 22:41 |
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Agalloch |
on the koha list? |
| 22:41 |
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pianohacker |
yes |
| 22:42 |
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chris |
yeah there are few libraries who have come from winnebago |
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Agalloch |
Do you have a link to the list handy? |
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chris |
http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha |
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pianohacker |
Agalloch: also, take a look at http://kylehall.info/index.php[…]jects/koha-tools/ |
