| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 12:25 |
|
owen |
Hi all |
| 12:26 |
|
paul |
hi owen |
| 12:26 |
|
fbcit |
hi owen && paul |
| 12:29 |
|
nengard |
hi all |
| 12:34 |
|
hdl |
hi all |
| 12:51 |
|
fbcit |
labels et al in 074 seems to work fine here |
| 12:51 |
|
fbcit |
kados ? |
| 12:58 |
|
atz |
fbcit: i submitted 4 patches in the past several days to fix conspicuous bugs w/ labels |
| 12:58 |
|
atz |
not sure how long they were there, but our clients definitely noticed |
| 13:00 |
|
fbcit |
atz: have you read the post to koha-devel this morning |
| 13:01 |
|
atz |
yep, none of my patches are pushed up, afaik |
| 13:01 |
|
atz |
so everybody else is getting the broken version |
| 13:01 |
|
atz |
it's crappy code |
| 13:01 |
|
atz |
pretty much everything was |
| 13:02 |
|
atz |
somebody started passing a template variable NAME="TYPE" |
| 13:02 |
|
atz |
but that doesn't jive, since we already reserve TYPE for opac vs. intranet |
| 13:03 |
|
atz |
so then CGI args got passed &type=intranet |
| 13:03 |
|
atz |
and the script use that to specify what table to insert on |
| 13:03 |
|
atz |
roundly bad ideas at each step |
| 13:04 |
|
atz |
since there is only one labels table, the selectivity idea didn't even make sense for me |
| 13:04 |
|
atz |
might be related to dev. that ryan is doing for patron-based (not item-based) labels/cards |
| 13:05 |
|
atz |
but I didn't hear back from him re: that |
| 13:06 |
|
fbcit |
I'm guilty of introducing the TYPE issue due to ignorance on it being a reserved param |
| 13:07 |
|
fbcit |
I can't speak for the patron-based card stuff, but I also introduced code to generate patron cards |
| 13:09 |
|
fbcit |
unfortunately the existing labels code/db design was so poor, it has come to the point where it seems to make more sense to start over and build two separate tools for labels and patron cards |
| 13:09 |
|
atz |
fbcit: very true |
| 13:10 |
|
atz |
I just typed similar words in an email back to the list :) |
| 13:14 |
|
atz |
i don't think anybody that's looked at the labels code is a fan of the labels code |
| 13:19 |
|
atz |
I ticketed a couple recently that I didn't fix |
| 13:19 |
|
atz |
couple *bugs |
| 13:25 |
|
fbcit |
we should also go back to PDF::API2 imo |
| 13:27 |
|
Vanzetti |
hi |
| 13:27 |
|
atz |
aren't we already using it/ |
| 13:27 |
|
atz |
? |
| 13:27 |
|
atz |
hello Vanzetti |
| 13:28 |
|
Vanzetti |
I'm trying to install koha, but I have a problem : not well-formed (invalid token) at line 1, column 8, byte 8 at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/XML/Parser.pm line 187 |
| 13:28 |
|
Vanzetti |
The install script doesn't go "well" |
| 13:28 |
|
atz |
what version of koha? |
| 13:28 |
|
Vanzetti |
hmm 2.3 I think |
| 13:28 |
|
Vanzetti |
yes 2.3 |
| 13:28 |
|
atz |
i don't think i can help you w/ that one |
| 13:28 |
|
Vanzetti |
atz: which one do you use ? |
| 13:29 |
|
atz |
I work on the 3.0 development |
| 13:29 |
|
Vanzetti |
it works well ? |
| 13:29 |
|
atz |
not quite stabilized yet, causing much concern here. |
| 13:30 |
|
atz |
but several of us in the US and Europe are supporting clients on it |
| 13:30 |
|
fbcit |
atz: we use PDF::Reuse and P::R::Barcode iirc |
| 13:31 |
|
Vanzetti |
atz: where can I get it ? |
| 13:33 |
|
Vanzetti |
atz: does it exists some documentation to set it up ? |
| 13:33 |
|
atz |
yes the documentation is thorough |
| 13:34 |
|
Vanzetti |
any url ? |
| 13:34 |
|
atz |
the best option is to use git, so that you can hack koha for your purposes and still apply updates |
| 13:35 |
|
atz |
git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone |
| 13:35 |
|
atz |
(git is the version control system used by the linux kernel hackers) |
| 13:35 |
|
atz |
otherwise: http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.00-beta.tar.gz |
| 13:35 |
|
Vanzetti |
yes I know git :) |
| 13:35 |
|
Vanzetti |
thank you :) |
| 13:35 |
|
Vanzetti |
atz: where are you from ? |
| 13:36 |
|
atz |
The middle of Ohio (US) |
| 13:36 |
|
paul |
and you Vanzetti ? |
| 13:36 |
|
Vanzetti |
France |
| 13:36 |
|
paul |
comme moi en quelque sorte ! |
| 13:36 |
|
Vanzetti |
I'm working for the "Revues.org" project |
| 13:36 |
|
paul |
french channel on #koha-fr ;-) |
| 13:36 |
|
Vanzetti |
ok thank you paul |
| 13:37 |
|
atz |
paul is one of the several talented bilingual Frenchman around here |
| 13:38 |
|
Vanzetti |
cool |
| 13:39 |
|
atz |
Vanzetti: for docs see the INSTALL.debian file |
| 13:40 |
|
Vanzetti |
the server I want to install koha is not under debian :) |
| 13:40 |
|
Vanzetti |
RHEL4 |
| 13:40 |
|
Vanzetti |
(baaaad;)) |
| 13:41 |
|
atz |
it should be similar... the main snag might be zebra |
| 13:41 |
|
Vanzetti |
ok |
| 13:43 |
|
atz |
i believe we've seen some people running on redhat... |
| 13:47 |
|
Vanzetti |
Well i think it's not really complicated, they're all linuxes |
| 13:48 |
|
paul |
because it can be a nightmare... trully |
| 13:53 |
|
atz |
indexdata says they have tested zebra on redhat, so it should be possile |
| 13:54 |
|
paul |
I installed koha on a RH server recently, it was a 64bits, and it was hard... |
| 14:06 |
|
kados |
Vanzetti: no-one in the community is using RHEL4, so why do you expect us to produce a manual for redhat? We're overloaded as it is with what little resources we have |
| 14:06 |
|
kados |
Vanzetti: if you think there should be a redhat manual you are welcome to contribute it and we'd welcome it of course |
| 14:08 |
|
paul |
hi kados. Vanzetti didn't request a RHEL manual. |
| 14:08 |
|
paul |
and someone already wrote one in french. |
| 14:08 |
|
paul |
more an "install notes" than a manual, but it's available |
| 14:08 |
|
paul |
(it's lyon2, who invites us in june) |
| 14:08 |
|
kados |
paul: can you send it to me? I will add it to INSTALL.redhat |
| 14:09 |
|
kados |
paul: sorry, I may have confused Vanzetti with the guy from NZ asking for the same thing |
| 14:09 |
|
paul |
nope, Vanzetti is a frenchie ;-) |
| 14:09 |
|
paul |
kados : the doc is here (in french) : http://www.sigb-libres.info/gu[…]a3-alpha-fedora-7 |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
thanks |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
oh, it's quite long |
| 14:10 |
|
kados |
and a PDF :/ |
| 14:10 |
|
paul |
yep |
| 14:11 |
|
paul |
and in french |
| 14:11 |
|
kados |
paul: can you get a OOo version? or plain text? |
| 14:12 |
|
kados |
(this is another reason we should allow people to add to koha.org ... we won't have so much distributed documentation) |
| 14:13 |
|
paul |
mail sent, you're cc |
| 14:14 |
|
nengard |
documentation in one place++ |
| 14:14 |
|
paul |
some news of the plone contest ? |
| 14:16 |
|
kados |
paul: nope, no news, it has been killed on the mailing list unfortunately |
| 14:16 |
|
paul |
??? |
| 14:16 |
|
kados |
I hope to revisit it soon |
| 14:18 |
|
nengard |
kados and paul my suggestion is to set the site up with highest voted template and then have another design contest - that way we have the content up there and running! we can worry about look and feel later - just my opinion |
| 14:18 |
|
kados |
nengard: good idea |
| 14:19 |
|
nengard |
kados i think i sent that as a reply to the list |
| 14:19 |
|
kados |
nengard: I'll talk to clay (our new sysadmin) today to see what kind of timeline we can aim for |
| 14:19 |
|
owen |
Or we can just secretly tweak the design in little bits until we all like it :) |
| 14:19 |
|
kados |
owen: *nod* |
| 14:19 |
|
nengard |
owen++ |
| 14:19 |
|
paul |
the problem with your solution nengard, is the reward. |
| 14:19 |
|
nengard |
paul - there was a reward?? I didn't know that! |
| 14:20 |
|
paul |
if we use one, you'll have to pay the reward. And if it's just for 1 or 2 months, it's a shame |
| 14:20 |
|
nengard |
now i see the problem |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
maybe we can retain the reward until they fix the style how we want it? |
| 14:20 |
|
paul |
maybe we could ask. |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
paul: some news about my travel ... unfortunately it will be quite brief in France at the end |
| 14:20 |
|
kados |
I have been invited to talk in St. Petersburg earlier that week |
| 14:21 |
|
kados |
paul: I've just sent you my itinerary overview |
| 14:22 |
|
paul |
retain the reward: maybe a good idea, because i don't think the job is worth USD2500. (at least, the guys working on that didn't spend 2 or 3 days I think) |
| 14:22 |
|
kados |
paul: but I arrive in paris on 11 June ... so perhaps we could plan to meet then if you and/or hdl want to meet up |
| 14:22 |
|
kados |
(after that I will go to visit Regula in Switzerland and take a holiday) |
| 14:23 |
|
Vanzetti |
kados: firstly I have to install it successfully |
| 14:23 |
|
kados |
Vanzetti: *nod* |
| 14:23 |
|
kados |
Vanzetti: did you see http://www.sigb-libres.info/gu[…]a3-alpha-fedora-7 |
| 14:23 |
|
kados |
? |
| 14:23 |
|
hdl |
kados : install notes on Fedora 7 was sent to you a month ago. |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
hdl: really? |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
hdl: sorry, I must have missed it |
| 14:24 |
|
kados |
hdl: lets create INSTALL.fedora7 |
| 14:24 |
|
Vanzetti |
kados: no i go to see it |
| 14:25 |
|
kados |
and maybe Vanzetti can create INSTALL.rhel |
| 14:26 |
|
kados |
hdl: i don't see any email on install notes |
| 14:26 |
|
kados |
hdl: sorry :/ |
| 14:26 |
|
paul |
I could write a INSTALL.mandriva I think (I already have some lines) |
| 14:26 |
|
Vanzetti |
maybe, who knows |
| 14:26 |
|
Vanzetti |
firstly I have to install it |
| 14:26 |
|
kados |
paul++ |
| 14:26 |
|
paul |
I just have problem with daemon |
| 14:26 |
|
kados |
paul: i think we are finding the zebra daemon is deprecated |
| 14:26 |
|
kados |
paul: we favor rebuild_zebra.pl -z |
| 14:26 |
|
paul |
that is unknown command for mandriva, and I couldn't find how to get it. |
| 14:27 |
|
kados |
oops, zebraqueue daemon |
| 14:27 |
|
kados |
zebra daemon still lives |
| 14:27 |
|
paul |
yep. |
| 14:27 |
|
Vanzetti |
but our redhat install is like a LFS install |
| 14:27 |
|
Vanzetti |
we just have the kernel that is redhat, and some useless packages |
| 14:30 |
|
kados |
*nod* |
| 14:42 |
|
owen |
By the way, nengard, system pref names and descriptions are not template issues. Those values are stored in the database. |
| 14:43 |
|
owen |
Changing them requires modifications to the scripts which modify the database |
| 14:43 |
|
kados |
yea, we should probably store all the changes we want to make there in one place so it can be done with one database upgrade |
| 14:49 |
|
nengard |
owen - it wasn't the sys pref name that was a problem - it was the descriptions of the pref - it was referencing a system pref that didn't exist anymore ;) |
| 14:49 |
|
nengard |
owen - oh!! |
| 14:49 |
|
nengard |
sorry just was that descriptions were included in that |
| 14:49 |
|
nengard |
okay |
| 14:50 |
|
kados |
nengard: descriptions are also in the DB currently |
| 14:50 |
|
nengard |
got it |
| 14:52 |
|
Vanzetti |
http://pastebin.com/m638b6a26 |
| 14:52 |
|
Vanzetti |
any idea ? :) |
| 14:53 |
|
kados |
Vanzetti: maybe join #code4lib on freenode and ask there ... or join perl4lib list and ask there |
| 14:54 |
|
Vanzetti |
ok |
| 16:06 |
|
hdl |
bon apetit |
| 17:02 |
|
mc |
? |
| 17:02 |
|
mc |
a 18h ? |
| 17:02 |
|
mc |
vous mangez vachement tot |
| 17:03 |
|
mc |
oopps ... i thought i'm on #koha-fr |
| 18:17 |
|
gmcharlt |
owen: we managed to refrain from talking about you ;-) |
| 18:17 |
|
owen |
*whew* |
