Time Nick Message 18:17 owen *whew* 18:17 gmcharlt owen: we managed to refrain from talking about you ;-) 17:03 mc oopps ... i thought i'm on #koha-fr 17:02 mc vous mangez vachement tot 17:02 mc a 18h ? 17:02 mc ? 16:06 hdl bon apetit 14:54 Vanzetti ok 14:53 kados Vanzetti: maybe join #code4lib on freenode and ask there ... or join perl4lib list and ask there 14:52 Vanzetti any idea ? :) 14:52 Vanzetti http://pastebin.com/m638b6a26 14:50 nengard got it 14:50 kados nengard: descriptions are also in the DB currently 14:49 nengard okay 14:49 nengard sorry just was that descriptions were included in that 14:49 nengard owen - oh!! 14:49 nengard owen - it wasn't the sys pref name that was a problem - it was the descriptions of the pref - it was referencing a system pref that didn't exist anymore ;) 14:43 kados yea, we should probably store all the changes we want to make there in one place so it can be done with one database upgrade 14:43 owen Changing them requires modifications to the scripts which modify the database 14:42 owen By the way, nengard, system pref names and descriptions are not template issues. Those values are stored in the database. 14:30 kados *nod* 14:27 Vanzetti we just have the kernel that is redhat, and some useless packages 14:27 Vanzetti but our redhat install is like a LFS install 14:27 paul yep. 14:27 kados zebra daemon still lives 14:27 kados oops, zebraqueue daemon 14:26 paul that is unknown command for mandriva, and I couldn't find how to get it. 14:26 kados paul: we favor rebuild_zebra.pl -z 14:26 kados paul: i think we are finding the zebra daemon is deprecated 14:26 paul I just have problem with daemon 14:26 kados paul++ 14:26 Vanzetti firstly I have to install it 14:26 Vanzetti maybe, who knows 14:26 paul I could write a INSTALL.mandriva I think (I already have some lines) 14:26 kados hdl: sorry :/ 14:26 kados hdl: i don't see any email on install notes 14:25 kados and maybe Vanzetti can create INSTALL.rhel 14:24 Vanzetti kados: no i go to see it 14:24 kados hdl: lets create INSTALL.fedora7 14:24 kados hdl: sorry, I must have missed it 14:24 kados hdl: really? 14:23 hdl kados : install notes on Fedora 7 was sent to you a month ago. 14:23 kados ? 14:23 kados Vanzetti: did you see http://www.sigb-libres.info/guide-installation-koha3-alpha-fedora-7 14:23 kados Vanzetti: *nod* 14:23 Vanzetti kados: firstly I have to install it successfully 14:22 kados (after that I will go to visit Regula in Switzerland and take a holiday) 14:22 kados paul: but I arrive in paris on 11 June ... so perhaps we could plan to meet then if you and/or hdl want to meet up 14:22 paul retain the reward: maybe a good idea, because i don't think the job is worth USD2500. (at least, the guys working on that didn't spend 2 or 3 days I think) 14:21 kados paul: I've just sent you my itinerary overview 14:20 kados I have been invited to talk in St. Petersburg earlier that week 14:20 kados paul: some news about my travel ... unfortunately it will be quite brief in France at the end 14:20 paul maybe we could ask. 14:20 kados maybe we can retain the reward until they fix the style how we want it? 14:20 nengard now i see the problem 14:20 paul if we use one, you'll have to pay the reward. And if it's just for 1 or 2 months, it's a shame 14:19 nengard paul - there was a reward?? I didn't know that! 14:19 paul the problem with your solution nengard, is the reward. 14:19 nengard owen++ 14:19 kados owen: *nod* 14:19 owen Or we can just secretly tweak the design in little bits until we all like it :) 14:19 kados nengard: I'll talk to clay (our new sysadmin) today to see what kind of timeline we can aim for 14:19 nengard kados i think i sent that as a reply to the list 14:18 kados nengard: good idea 14:18 nengard kados and paul my suggestion is to set the site up with highest voted template and then have another design contest - that way we have the content up there and running! we can worry about look and feel later - just my opinion 14:16 kados I hope to revisit it soon 14:16 paul ??? 14:16 kados paul: nope, no news, it has been killed on the mailing list unfortunately 14:14 paul some news of the plone contest ? 14:14 nengard documentation in one place++ 14:13 paul mail sent, you're cc 14:12 kados (this is another reason we should allow people to add to koha.org ... we won't have so much distributed documentation) 14:11 kados paul: can you get a OOo version? or plain text? 14:11 paul and in french 14:10 paul yep 14:10 kados and a PDF :/ 14:10 kados oh, it's quite long 14:10 kados thanks 14:09 paul kados : the doc is here (in french) : http://www.sigb-libres.info/guide-installation-koha3-alpha-fedora-7 14:09 paul nope, Vanzetti is a frenchie ;-) 14:09 kados paul: sorry, I may have confused Vanzetti with the guy from NZ asking for the same thing 14:08 kados paul: can you send it to me? I will add it to INSTALL.redhat 14:08 paul (it's lyon2, who invites us in june) 14:08 paul more an "install notes" than a manual, but it's available 14:08 paul and someone already wrote one in french. 14:08 paul hi kados. Vanzetti didn't request a RHEL manual. 14:06 kados Vanzetti: if you think there should be a redhat manual you are welcome to contribute it and we'd welcome it of course 14:06 kados Vanzetti: no-one in the community is using RHEL4, so why do you expect us to produce a manual for redhat? We're overloaded as it is with what little resources we have 13:54 paul I installed koha on a RH server recently, it was a 64bits, and it was hard... 13:53 atz indexdata says they have tested zebra on redhat, so it should be possile 13:48 paul because it can be a nightmare... trully 13:47 Vanzetti Well i think it's not really complicated, they're all linuxes 13:43 atz i believe we've seen some people running on redhat... 13:41 Vanzetti ok 13:41 atz it should be similar... the main snag might be zebra 13:40 Vanzetti (baaaad;)) 13:40 Vanzetti RHEL4 13:40 Vanzetti the server I want to install koha is not under debian :) 13:39 atz Vanzetti: for docs see the INSTALL.debian file 13:38 Vanzetti cool 13:37 atz paul is one of the several talented bilingual Frenchman around here 13:36 Vanzetti ok thank you paul 13:36 paul french channel on #koha-fr ;-) 13:36 Vanzetti I'm working for the "Revues.org" project 13:36 paul comme moi en quelque sorte ! 13:36 Vanzetti France 13:36 paul and you Vanzetti ? 13:36 atz The middle of Ohio (US) 13:35 Vanzetti atz: where are you from ? 13:35 Vanzetti thank you :) 13:35 Vanzetti yes I know git :) 13:35 atz otherwise: http://download.koha.org/koha-3.00.00-beta.tar.gz 13:35 atz (git is the version control system used by the linux kernel hackers) 13:35 atz git clone git://git.koha.org/pub/scm/koha.git kohaclone 13:34 atz the best option is to use git, so that you can hack koha for your purposes and still apply updates 13:34 Vanzetti any url ? 13:33 atz yes the documentation is thorough 13:33 Vanzetti atz: does it exists some documentation to set it up ? 13:31 Vanzetti atz: where can I get it ? 13:30 fbcit atz: we use PDF::Reuse and P::R::Barcode iirc 13:30 atz but several of us in the US and Europe are supporting clients on it 13:29 atz not quite stabilized yet, causing much concern here. 13:29 Vanzetti it works well ? 13:29 atz I work on the 3.0 development 13:28 Vanzetti atz: which one do you use ? 13:28 atz i don't think i can help you w/ that one 13:28 Vanzetti yes 2.3 13:28 Vanzetti hmm 2.3 I think 13:28 atz what version of koha? 13:28 Vanzetti The install script doesn't go "well" 13:28 Vanzetti I'm trying to install koha, but I have a problem : not well-formed (invalid token) at line 1, column 8, byte 8 at /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.5/i386-linux-thread-multi/XML/Parser.pm line 187 13:27 atz hello Vanzetti 13:27 atz ? 13:27 atz aren't we already using it/ 13:27 Vanzetti hi 13:25 fbcit we should also go back to PDF::API2 imo 13:19 atz couple *bugs 13:19 atz I ticketed a couple recently that I didn't fix 13:14 atz i don't think anybody that's looked at the labels code is a fan of the labels code 13:10 atz I just typed similar words in an email back to the list :) 13:09 atz fbcit: very true 13:09 fbcit unfortunately the existing labels code/db design was so poor, it has come to the point where it seems to make more sense to start over and build two separate tools for labels and patron cards 13:07 fbcit I can't speak for the patron-based card stuff, but I also introduced code to generate patron cards 13:06 fbcit I'm guilty of introducing the TYPE issue due to ignorance on it being a reserved param 13:05 atz but I didn't hear back from him re: that 13:04 atz might be related to dev. that ryan is doing for patron-based (not item-based) labels/cards 13:04 atz since there is only one labels table, the selectivity idea didn't even make sense for me 13:03 atz roundly bad ideas at each step 13:03 atz and the script use that to specify what table to insert on 13:03 atz so then CGI args got passed &type=intranet 13:02 atz but that doesn't jive, since we already reserve TYPE for opac vs. intranet 13:02 atz somebody started passing a template variable NAME="TYPE" 13:01 atz pretty much everything was 13:01 atz it's crappy code 13:01 atz so everybody else is getting the broken version 13:01 atz yep, none of my patches are pushed up, afaik 13:00 fbcit atz: have you read the post to koha-devel this morning 12:58 atz not sure how long they were there, but our clients definitely noticed 12:58 atz fbcit: i submitted 4 patches in the past several days to fix conspicuous bugs w/ labels 12:51 fbcit kados ? 12:51 fbcit labels et al in 074 seems to work fine here 12:34 hdl hi all 12:29 nengard hi all 12:26 fbcit hi owen && paul 12:26 paul hi owen 12:25 owen Hi all