| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 15:14 |
|
fbcit-1 |
g'morning koha |
| 16:37 |
|
fbcit-1 |
kados: u around? |
| 16:38 |
|
fbcit-1 |
chris ? |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
hey fbcit-1 |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
fbcit-1: sup? |
| 16:38 |
|
fbcit-1 |
hey kados |
| 16:38 |
|
fbcit-1 |
are we using YAZ++ |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
nope |
| 16:39 |
|
fbcit-1 |
PHP? |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
just plain ole yaz |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
nope, no php in core koha |
| 16:39 |
|
fbcit-1 |
where to get the Win32 then? |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
there are some php extensions for koha at contribus.koha.org |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
hmmm |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
what do you mean? |
| 16:39 |
|
fbcit-1 |
I'm on the yaz site and only see yaz++ and phpyaz |
| 16:40 |
|
fbcit-1 |
http://indexdata.dk |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
windows packages you mean, for yaz? |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
Rob has done quite a bit of work packaging the 2.2 series for windows |
| 16:40 |
|
kados |
and I believe he's included yaz toolkit in his package |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
I'm not sure how he went about it |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
but he'd be more than happy (I'm sure) to tell you |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
he's a really friendly guy :-) |
| 16:41 |
|
fbcit-1 |
I'm working on building an MSI to do it... |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
sweet |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
will that work at all with galen's installer? |
| 16:42 |
|
fbcit-1 |
maybe over time |
| 16:42 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 16:42 |
|
kados |
is MSI free software? |
| 16:42 |
|
kados |
ie, can we include an MSI in the main koha project? |
| 16:42 |
|
fbcit-1 |
think WIX2 |
| 16:42 |
|
kados |
(released under the GPL) |
| 16:42 |
|
kados |
honestly, I haven't used windows in like 10 years :-) |
| 16:43 |
|
fbcit-1 |
http://wix.sourceforge.net/man[…]ix2/wix_index.htm |
| 16:43 |
|
kados |
cool |
| 16:43 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit-1: I use Windows more than kados does, but have never written installer for a windows -- will great appreciate any hints about how to make things easier for packagers |
| 16:43 |
|
fbcit-1 |
released by M$ into opensource world |
| 16:43 |
|
gmcharlt |
and good morning |
| 16:44 |
|
fbcit-1 |
morning gmcharlt |
| 16:44 |
|
kados |
mornin gmcharlt |
| 16:45 |
|
fbcit-1 |
I've not worked much with the windows installer either so am in the learning curve, but I has started about a year ago for another project |
| 16:45 |
|
fbcit-1 |
and picked it up when I found koha |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
it'd be great to have packages for all the major OSes |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
Debian .deb, Red Hat, OSX .dmg, Windows .exe, etc. |
| 16:47 |
|
gmcharlt |
yep |
| 16:47 |
|
kados |
for 3.0 I'll be thrilled to have a generic installer that works reasonably well on linux though :-) |
| 16:47 |
|
fbcit-1 |
kados: did'nt you say that the koha win32 port was presently with a proprietary installer? |
| 16:47 |
|
kados |
fbcit-1: yes, which is why it's never made it into the koha repo |
| 16:48 |
|
fbcit-1 |
gmcharlt: presently I used your installer under cygwin to do a single dir install and then moved it to Program Files... |
| 16:48 |
|
fbcit-1 |
I run strawberry perl on Win32 |
| 16:48 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit-1: I was about to ask if anybody had played around with cgywin |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
I think joe has some experience with it though |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
atz around? |
| 16:51 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit is multiplying :) |
| 16:51 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
gmcharlt: did you get my last? |
| 16:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
re cygwin and strawberry perl |
| 16:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
? |
| 16:52 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
right and IIS... |
| 16:52 |
|
gmcharlt |
didn't get the IIS bit |
| 16:53 |
|
gmcharlt |
hmm -- do you know if there's any equivalent of mod_perl for IIS? |
| 16:53 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
No. The one site we run on IIS is VB.NET |
| 16:53 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
all other sites are PHP on Apache |
| 16:55 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
gmcharlt: I may try changing the pathing syntax in makefile to see if it will install correctly on win32 |
| 16:56 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
if it would, then it would just be a matter of fixing up the apache conf to fit a win32 apache install... I think |
| 16:56 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
the shebang line has to be changed of course, but I have a script that recurses through the dir structure and does that automagically |
| 16:56 |
|
gmcharlt |
great: I started using File::Spec to start getting more platform-agnostic, but I know it's not completely there yet |
| 16:57 |
|
gmcharlt |
shebang changes need to be put in for Unix anyway: not all distros use /usr/bin/perl |
| 16:57 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
I have found that win32 does not care about the direction of the dir separator, but the root is different as you know. |
| 16:58 |
|
fbcit-1_ |
the shebang sub I have could be incorporated into makefile.... |
| 16:58 |
|
gmcharlt |
send me a patch :-) |
| 17:00 |
|
fbcit |
making makefile work on win32 would be a bit easier than maintaining a separate .msi installer... |
| 17:01 |
|
fbcit |
it would also be nice to test koha with vanilla and strawberry perl |
| 17:01 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: yep, but I think even better would be to eventually get packaging fully automated for any major platforms (at least for pre-release version; general releases will likely still require manual checking) |
| 17:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
i.e., download the rpm/deb/dmg/msi/exe of the day |
| 17:02 |
|
fbcit |
I think we must be using yaz++ as perl compiles to c and is able to use c libraries if I remember correctly |
| 17:02 |
|
gmcharlt |
also (although not for 3.0) I want to support a 'make upgrade' |
| 17:03 |
|
kados |
yea, cool idea |
| 17:04 |
|
kados |
fbcit: yaz++ is not the same application as yaz |
| 17:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: are you sure? yaz is the C library, yaz++ is the C++ library |
| 17:04 |
|
gmcharlt |
snap |
| 17:04 |
|
kados |
right |
| 17:04 |
|
kados |
more like it's the C++ apy to Yaz, a C library |
| 17:05 |
|
kados |
s/apy/api/ |
| 17:05 |
|
fbcit |
their site is not exactly intuitive... |
| 17:06 |
|
fbcit |
kados: right |
| 17:06 |
|
gmcharlt |
to match an unintuitive protocol at the core of their software ;-) |
| 17:07 |
|
fbcit |
you know, the MARC modules installed without complaint under strawberry.... |
| 17:07 |
|
fbcit |
now that yaz is here, let's try zoom... |
| 17:07 |
|
gmcharlt |
good -- I checked http://win32.perl.org/wiki/ind[…]l_Problem_Modules |
| 17:08 |
|
gmcharlt |
only a couple deps seem to be known problems: GD and POE, primarily |
| 17:12 |
|
fbcit |
seems to be looking for yaz-config which the win32 install does not appear to have... |
| 17:15 |
|
gmcharlt |
fbcit: http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipe[…]March/000857.html |
| 17:22 |
|
fbcit |
and wishes he had snow rather than rain... |
| 17:23 |
|
kados |
fbcit: note: galen's installer hasn't been added to the main repo yet ... just wanted to make sure you were editing the right one :-) |
| 18:30 |
|
fbcit |
- If you are new to this distribution, then you should use the ZOOM |
| 18:30 |
|
fbcit |
API, and ignore the others. It is the cleanest, most elegant and |
| 18:30 |
|
fbcit |
intuitive, and most closely follows the letter as well as the spirit |
| 18:30 |
|
fbcit |
of the Abstract ZOOM API as specified at http://zoom.z3950.org/api/ |
| 18:31 |
|
fbcit |
- You should definitely not use the Net::Z3950::ZOOM API, which is not |
| 18:31 |
|
fbcit |
object-oriented, and instead provides the thinnest possible layer on |
| 18:31 |
|
fbcit |
top of the ZOOM-C functions in the YAZ toolkit. This API exists |
| 18:32 |
|
fbcit |
only in order to have ZOOM API built on top of it. |
| 18:47 |
|
gmcharlt_away |
fbcit: two notes about that: Koha uses ZOOM.pm, but that module is bundled with Net::Z3950::ZOOM |
| 18:48 |
|
gmcharlt_away |
second, trying to do cpan> install ZOOM doesn't work -- you have to pick up all of Net::Z3950::ZOOM |
| 20:09 |
|
fbcit |
gmcharlt_away:install ZOOM gets Net::Z3950::ZOOM as it turns out. |
| 20:10 |
|
fbcit |
Makefile.PL is commented for changes needed to compile on Win32, but it looks for yaz.lib as the library rather than yaz3.lib which is what comes with yaz 3.0.x |
| 20:11 |
|
fbcit |
I sent an email to the author of the ZOOM module with the errors dmake spits out. It may be that I need an earlier ver of yaz. |
| 23:50 |
|
pecisk |
hi people, anyone with expierence of setting up Koha on Ubuntu Dapper? |
| 06:52 |
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