Time Nick Message 08:53 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: maktrix n=mak@59.152.90.138 06:52 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: maktrix n=mak@59.152.90.138 23:50 pecisk hi people, anyone with expierence of setting up Koha on Ubuntu Dapper? 20:11 fbcit I sent an email to the author of the ZOOM module with the errors dmake spits out. It may be that I need an earlier ver of yaz. 20:10 fbcit Makefile.PL is commented for changes needed to compile on Win32, but it looks for yaz.lib as the library rather than yaz3.lib which is what comes with yaz 3.0.x 20:09 fbcit gmcharlt_away:install ZOOM gets Net::Z3950::ZOOM as it turns out. 18:48 gmcharlt_away second, trying to do cpan> install ZOOM doesn't work -- you have to pick up all of Net::Z3950::ZOOM 18:47 gmcharlt_away fbcit: two notes about that: Koha uses ZOOM.pm, but that module is bundled with Net::Z3950::ZOOM 18:32 fbcit only in order to have ZOOM API built on top of it. 18:31 fbcit top of the ZOOM-C functions in the YAZ toolkit. This API exists 18:31 fbcit object-oriented, and instead provides the thinnest possible layer on 18:31 fbcit - You should definitely not use the Net::Z3950::ZOOM API, which is not 18:30 fbcit of the Abstract ZOOM API as specified at http://zoom.z3950.org/api/ 18:30 fbcit intuitive, and most closely follows the letter as well as the spirit 18:30 fbcit API, and ignore the others. It is the cleanest, most elegant and 18:30 fbcit - If you are new to this distribution, then you should use the ZOOM 17:23 kados fbcit: note: galen's installer hasn't been added to the main repo yet ... just wanted to make sure you were editing the right one :-) 17:22 fbcit and wishes he had snow rather than rain... 17:15 gmcharlt fbcit: http://lists.indexdata.dk/pipermail/yazlist/2004-March/000857.html 17:12 fbcit seems to be looking for yaz-config which the win32 install does not appear to have... 17:08 gmcharlt only a couple deps seem to be known problems: GD and POE, primarily 17:07 gmcharlt good -- I checked http://win32.perl.org/wiki/index.php?title=Vanilla_Perl_Problem_Modules 17:07 fbcit now that yaz is here, let's try zoom... 17:07 fbcit you know, the MARC modules installed without complaint under strawberry.... 17:06 gmcharlt to match an unintuitive protocol at the core of their software ;-) 17:06 fbcit kados: right 17:05 fbcit their site is not exactly intuitive... 17:05 kados s/apy/api/ 17:04 kados more like it's the C++ apy to Yaz, a C library 17:04 kados right 17:04 gmcharlt snap 17:04 gmcharlt fbcit: are you sure? yaz is the C library, yaz++ is the C++ library 17:04 kados fbcit: yaz++ is not the same application as yaz 17:03 kados yea, cool idea 17:02 gmcharlt also (although not for 3.0) I want to support a 'make upgrade' 17:02 fbcit I think we must be using yaz++ as perl compiles to c and is able to use c libraries if I remember correctly 17:02 gmcharlt i.e., download the rpm/deb/dmg/msi/exe of the day 17:01 gmcharlt fbcit: yep, but I think even better would be to eventually get packaging fully automated for any major platforms (at least for pre-release version; general releases will likely still require manual checking) 17:01 fbcit it would also be nice to test koha with vanilla and strawberry perl 17:00 fbcit making makefile work on win32 would be a bit easier than maintaining a separate .msi installer... 16:58 gmcharlt send me a patch :-) 16:58 fbcit-1_ the shebang sub I have could be incorporated into makefile.... 16:57 fbcit-1_ I have found that win32 does not care about the direction of the dir separator, but the root is different as you know. 16:57 gmcharlt shebang changes need to be put in for Unix anyway: not all distros use /usr/bin/perl 16:56 gmcharlt great: I started using File::Spec to start getting more platform-agnostic, but I know it's not completely there yet 16:56 fbcit-1_ the shebang line has to be changed of course, but I have a script that recurses through the dir structure and does that automagically 16:56 fbcit-1_ if it would, then it would just be a matter of fixing up the apache conf to fit a win32 apache install... I think 16:55 fbcit-1_ gmcharlt: I may try changing the pathing syntax in makefile to see if it will install correctly on win32 16:53 fbcit-1_ all other sites are PHP on Apache 16:53 fbcit-1_ No. The one site we run on IIS is VB.NET 16:53 gmcharlt hmm -- do you know if there's any equivalent of mod_perl for IIS? 16:52 gmcharlt didn't get the IIS bit 16:52 fbcit-1_ right and IIS... 16:52 gmcharlt ? 16:52 gmcharlt re cygwin and strawberry perl 16:51 fbcit-1_ gmcharlt: did you get my last? 16:51 gmcharlt fbcit is multiplying :) 16:49 kados atz around? 16:49 kados I think joe has some experience with it though 16:48 gmcharlt fbcit-1: I was about to ask if anybody had played around with cgywin 16:48 fbcit-1 I run strawberry perl on Win32 16:48 fbcit-1 gmcharlt: presently I used your installer under cygwin to do a single dir install and then moved it to Program Files... 16:47 kados fbcit-1: yes, which is why it's never made it into the koha repo 16:47 fbcit-1 kados: did'nt you say that the koha win32 port was presently with a proprietary installer? 16:47 kados for 3.0 I'll be thrilled to have a generic installer that works reasonably well on linux though :-) 16:47 gmcharlt yep 16:46 kados Debian .deb, Red Hat, OSX .dmg, Windows .exe, etc. 16:46 kados it'd be great to have packages for all the major OSes 16:45 fbcit-1 and picked it up when I found koha 16:45 fbcit-1 I've not worked much with the windows installer either so am in the learning curve, but I has started about a year ago for another project 16:44 kados mornin gmcharlt 16:44 fbcit-1 morning gmcharlt 16:43 gmcharlt and good morning 16:43 fbcit-1 released by M$ into opensource world 16:43 gmcharlt fbcit-1: I use Windows more than kados does, but have never written installer for a windows -- will great appreciate any hints about how to make things easier for packagers 16:43 kados cool 16:43 fbcit-1 http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix2/wix_index.htm 16:42 kados honestly, I haven't used windows in like 10 years :-) 16:42 kados (released under the GPL) 16:42 fbcit-1 think WIX2 16:42 kados ie, can we include an MSI in the main koha project? 16:42 kados is MSI free software? 16:42 kados cool 16:42 fbcit-1 maybe over time 16:41 kados will that work at all with galen's installer? 16:41 kados sweet 16:41 fbcit-1 I'm working on building an MSI to do it... 16:41 kados he's a really friendly guy :-) 16:41 kados but he'd be more than happy (I'm sure) to tell you 16:41 kados I'm not sure how he went about it 16:40 kados and I believe he's included yaz toolkit in his package 16:40 kados Rob has done quite a bit of work packaging the 2.2 series for windows 16:40 kados http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ 16:40 kados cool 16:40 kados windows packages you mean, for yaz? 16:40 fbcit-1 http://indexdata.dk 16:39 fbcit-1 I'm on the yaz site and only see yaz++ and phpyaz 16:39 kados what do you mean? 16:39 kados hmmm 16:39 kados there are some php extensions for koha at contribus.koha.org 16:39 fbcit-1 where to get the Win32 then? 16:39 kados nope, no php in core koha 16:39 kados just plain ole yaz 16:39 fbcit-1 PHP? 16:39 kados nope 16:38 fbcit-1 are we using YAZ++ 16:38 fbcit-1 hey kados 16:38 kados fbcit-1: sup? 16:38 kados hey fbcit-1 16:38 fbcit-1 chris ? 16:37 fbcit-1 kados: u around? 15:14 fbcit-1 g'morning koha